World's Population is 7 billion

The species of the earth will ally together and attack our major cities.

Gorillas will ride elephants to the door step of the White House, and declare war upon the human race.

The species of the earth will ally together and attack our major cities.

Gorillas will ride elephants to the door step of the White House, and declare war upon the human race.

kerrman

I sense a Hollywood blockbuster here.

If the world economy continues to be garbage, I think over the years we will see decreases as more people find it not a good financial decision to have kids right now.

Pirate700

i have not read much in this thread but historically these threads are filled with a bunch of statists that cannot wrap their heads around production and supply chains that in some manner call for a way to commit massgenocide so the population counts become more manageable to them, and that is why i am not going to read this thread. i dont need to see stupid people making calls of violence because their megalomaniacy wont let them accept that they dont understand everything even though these people tend to understand nothing.... just going off of my experience with these threads, this one could be completely different and filled with fields medalists.....

perhaps the world was never meant to accommodate this many of a particular species

sonicare

I know im gonna get **** for this but, what on Gods green earth are we doing in Africa? DroidPhysX

Here in the UK having children means an easy break - I'm struggling to save for a deposit on a house while I still live at home, but if I had kids I'd be able to claim a council house, child benefits, income support etc.tofu-lion91

[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"]Here in the UK having children means an easy break - I'm struggling to save for a deposit on a house while I still live at home, but if I had kids I'd be able to claim a council house, child benefits, income support etc.Jandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="tofu-lion91"]Here in the UK having children means an easy break - I'm struggling to save for a deposit on a house while I still live at home, but if I had kids I'd be able to claim a council house, child benefits, income support etc.surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] what the heck is a council houseJandurin

edit: yes, i dont pay to much attention to the spell check when at work, i am shocked you dont catch many more errors like that.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] a good way to incentives low income population growth from the sounds of it

surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] what the heck is a council houseJandurin

I think humanity is already a plague. I personally found disturbing that this news was not met with more outrage. Many people having children do it for their own selfish reasons not even thinking about the children much less about the planet. I think there will be a rough wake up call. It would be better if we start thinking now about controlling the population before that happens but then people will start screaming at how that is violating their rights. Well I think the "rights" of the planet along with the rest of the species are much more important than their puny little right to reproduce unrestrictedly kuraimen

I think humanity is already a plague. I personally found disturbing that this news was not met with more outrage. Many people having children do it for their own selfish reasons not even thinking about the children much less about the planet. I think there will be a rough wake up call. It would be better if we start thinking now about controlling the population before that happens but then people will start screaming at how that is violating their rights. Well I think the "rights" of the planet along with the rest of the species are much more important than their puny little right to reproduce unrestrictedly kuraimen

i also wish to assign rights to inanimate objects and not to the owners of the objects, this is so not crazier than Peta, cerialsous its important that we give human rights to rocks the wind and rain, im soupor cereal.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]I think humanity is already a plague. I personally found disturbing that this news was not met with more outrage. Many people having children do it for their own selfish reasons not even thinking about the children much less about the planet. I think there will be a rough wake up call. It would be better if we start thinking now about controlling the population before that happens but then people will start screaming at how that is violating their rights. Well I think the "rights" of the planet along with the rest of the species are much more important than their puny little right to reproduce unrestrictedly surrealnumber5

i also wish to assign rights to inanimate objects and not to the owners of the objects, this is so not crazier than Peta, cerialsous its important that we give human rights to rocks the wind and rain, im soupor cereal.

surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

i also wish to assign rights to inanimate objects and not to the owners of the objects, this is so not crazier than Peta, cerialsous its important that we give human rights to rocks the wind and rain, im soupor cereal.

kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

i also wish to assign rights to inanimate objects and not to the owners of the objects, this is so not crazier than Peta, cerialsous its important that we give human rights to rocks the wind and rain, im soupor cereal.

surrealnumber5

i also wish to assign rights to inanimate objects and not to the owners of the objects, this is so not crazier than Peta, cerialsous its important that we give human rights to rocks the wind and rain, im soupor cereal.

surrealnumber5

What does controlling the population by controlling having children has to do with letting people starve to death on the streets. Stop using strawman arguments, that just shows your points are weak.kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]What does controlling the population by controlling having children has to do with letting people starve to death on the streets. Stop using strawman arguments, that just shows your points are weak.Jandurin

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]What does controlling the population by controlling having children has to do with letting people starve to death on the streets. Stop using strawman arguments, that just shows your points are weak.Jandurin

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Also nature is full of living things, you learn that like in kindergardenkuraimen

your argument is too absurd not to treat absurdly.

7 Billion? dat population!!

is this why mother nature turned up the natural disaster rates?

as a way of slyly culling the population size?

7 Billion? dat population!!

is this why mother nature turned up the natural disaster rates?

as a way of slyly culling the population size?

Zaibach

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] HUMANitarian rights, and it is good to know you support no social net for mothers, let them die on the street starving cold and alone, those are the two our comes, either you support subsidizing the poor and thus create more poor or you are for no social net what so ever and thus are for people being left to their own devices no matter the outcome including starving to death on the streets.

surrealnumber5

your argument is too absurd not to treat absurdly.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] What does controlling the population by controlling having children has to do with letting people starve to death on the streets. Stop using strawman arguments, that just shows your points are weak.kuraimen

your argument is too absurd not to treat absurdly.

1) you just stated you dont care about human rights, so you want to A) extend these no rights to everything B) if you dont care about human rights that instantly removes your theory from the arena of ideas the second your idea is applied to you

2) if you promote a form of redistribution or welfare of any kind you are removing survival of the fittest and thus promoting unsustainable growth

3) kinda already covered this but i will do so from another angle, if you extend any sort of life to what is defined as "living" it becomes immoral/illegal to fight diseases, infestations, and even to nourish our selves as all of these things are related to nonhuman life that directly impact human life and right now are A-ok

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]1) I couldn't care less about their "rights" as free thinking humans when the fate of the whole planet is at stake. This anthropocentric view of the universe is so middle ages and should stop before we destroy the planet along with ourseleves. 2) How am I promoting unsustainable growth? Again, strawman 3) Who says I want to stand human rights, I think living organisms other than humans should have rights since, you know, we also depend on them.Jandurin

The view that we are somehow superior is quite laughable to me considering how destructive we are in comparison to other species. I would even say we are quite inferior to other species even with our "higher thinking" skills.kuraimen

it just took a little reductio ad absurdum to get him to admit in full his point, but next week, jand, i may well be drunk at this hour. its gonna be vacation time brotha.surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] 1) controlling the population always violates their rights as free thinking humans 2) if you dont like unsustainable growth your should not promote unsustainable growth 3) i am not calling for the extension of human rights to things outside of humanity including base minerals....

your argument is too absurd not to treat absurdly.

surrealnumber5

1) you just stated you dont care about human rights, so you want to A) extend these no rights to everything B) if you dont care about human rights that instantly removes your theory from the arena of ideas the second your idea is applied to you

2) if you promote a form of redistribution or welfare of any kind you are removing survival of the fittest and thus promoting unsustainable growth

3) kinda already covered this but i will do so from another angle, if you extend any sort of life to what is defined as "living" it becomes immoral/illegal to fight diseases, infestations, and even to nourish our selves as all of these things are related to nonhuman life that directly impact human life and right now are A-ok

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]it just took a little reductio ad absurdum to get him to admit in full his point, but next week, jand, i may well be drunk at this hour. its gonna be vacation time brotha.Jandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]1) I couldn't care less about their "rights" as free thinking humans when the fate of the whole planet is at stake. This anthropocentric view of the universe is so middle ages and should stop before we destroy the planet along with ourseleves. 2) How am I promoting unsustainable growth? Again, strawman 3) Who says I want to stand human rights, I think living organisms other than humans should have rights since, you know, we also depend on them.surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] 1) I couldn't care less about their "rights" as free thinking humans when the fate of the whole planet is at stake. This anthropocentric view of the universe is so middle ages and should stop before we destroy the planet along with ourseleves. 2) How am I promoting unsustainable growth? Again, strawman 3) Who says I want to stand human rights, I think living organisms other than humans should have rights since, you know, we also depend on them.kuraimen

1) you just stated you dont care about human rights, so you want to A) extend these no rights to everything B) if you dont care about human rights that instantly removes your theory from the arena of ideas the second your idea is applied to you

2) if you promote a form of redistribution or welfare of any kind you are removing survival of the fittest and thus promoting unsustainable growth

3) kinda already covered this but i will do so from another angle, if you extend any sort of life to what is defined as "living" it becomes immoral/illegal to fight diseases, infestations, and even to nourish our selves as all of these things are related to nonhuman life that directly impact human life and right now are A-ok

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] i'm sorry but as a human being, and with the current evidence of being the only higher thinking beings in the universe... having an anthropocentric view makes sense. having the opposite does not what rights do you think other organisms should have what other organismskuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

1) you just stated you dont care about human rights, so you want to A) extend these no rights to everything B) if you dont care about human rights that instantly removes your theory from the arena of ideas the second your idea is applied to you

2) if you promote a form of redistribution or welfare of any kind you are removing survival of the fittest and thus promoting unsustainable growth

3) kinda already covered this but i will do so from another angle, if you extend any sort of life to what is defined as "living" it becomes immoral/illegal to fight diseases, infestations, and even to nourish our selves as all of these things are related to nonhuman life that directly impact human life and right now are A-ok

surrealnumber5

Sure, whatever.kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] it just took a little reductio ad absurdum to get him to admit in full his point, but next week, jand, i may well be drunk at this hour. its gonna be vacation time brotha.surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Sure, whatever.Jandurin