WTF wikipedia posts imaginery pictures of Prophet Muhammad!!!

There are various clip of jesus and god doing pretty bad stuff on family guy. No christian on GS throws a hissy fit when jesus's miracles were protrayed as just bad street magic, so why this thread?

I'm a lifelong christian btw

darkIink

As Theokoth said, it is forbidden to draw Phophet Muhammad's face because He feared people would worship him instead of God.  

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I don't know what that is, so maybe.

LJS9502_basic

Why would I want to do that? I already believe Islam is wrong and it's no secret. . . .for the third time, I'm looking at the situation from the point of view of an Islamic.

Why would I want to do that? I already believe Islam is wrong and it's no secret. . . .for the third time, I'm looking at the situation from the point of view of an Islamic.

Theokhoth

[QUOTE="darkIink"]

There are various clip of jesus and god doing pretty bad stuff on family guy. No christian on GS throws a hissy fit when jesus's miracles were protrayed as just bad street magic, so why this thread?

I'm a lifelong christian btw

ghoklebutter

As Theokoth said, it is forbidden to draw Phophet Muhammad's face because He feared people would worship him instead of God.

I wonder where the topic creator went ...

In anyways, Wikipedia is not an Islamic site, so therefore it should'nt have to abide by muslim beliefs or customs.Also as was pointed out before the picture has his face on fire (:?) so his face is not depicted.No big deal, life moves on ...

I'm also late ...

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="nintendoman562"]It seems most people around off-topic don't know that creating images of Muhammad is considered blasphemous.nintendoman562

What the hell does race have to do with beliefs?  Isn't that notion itself racist?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Why would I want to do that? I already believe Islam is wrong and it's no secret. . . .for the third time, I'm looking at the situation from the point of view of an Islamic.

LJS9502_basic

The question you asked of me came from what I initially said.:| I'm not getting defensive; I'm getting annoyed from repeating myself.

Hypothetical scenario: A Muslim has a depiction of Mohammed and a Playboy magazine in their home. Which of these things would typically be more frowned upon by their Imam if they somehow came to be known about?SpaceMoose

Probably the Playboy magazine. 

Hypothetical scenario: A Muslim has a depiction of Mohammed and a Playboy magazine in their home. Which of these things would typically be more frowned upon by their Imam if they somehow came to be known about?SpaceMoose

They'd both be heavily frowned upon, but I *think* the Muhammad picture would be considered worse.

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]Hypothetical scenario: A Muslim has a depiction of Mohammed and a Playboy magazine in their home. Which of these things would typically be more frowned upon by their Imam if they somehow came to be known about?ghoklebutter

Probably the Playboy magazine. 

If that is the case, then I think you see where I'm going with this...

The question you asked of me came from what I initially said.:| I'm not getting defensive; I'm getting annoyed from repeating myself.

Theokhoth

People making fun out of this,I feel sorry for you.God's curse may come on you very soon.:(Thinker_reborn

Don't you mean Allah? Oh, and how can someone curse us if he doesn't exist?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

The question you asked of me came from what I initially said.:| I'm not getting defensive; I'm getting annoyed from repeating myself.

LJS9502_basic

*Hands out ownage cookie*

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

The question you asked of me came from what I initially said.:| I'm not getting defensive; I'm getting annoyed from repeating myself.

LJS9502_basic

Your question came in response to my post that Muhammad believed Jesus was a prophet. Your question was this: "Did he believe that or create it?" To which I said both, as he wouldn't have taken so much effort out of his life to create it if he didn't believe himself to be right. You then asked if it was a PC answer. I said no, as it is no secret that I think Islam is wrong. That's IT. I haven't avoided your question or changed the subject, and I defy you to show me where I have. You question stemmed from my point that I was looking at the situation from the view of Islam, therefore that point was relevant to our discussion, period.

I guess Muhammad must be rather ugly if his face is so offensive. That's not a very nice way of treating your own prophet.dracula_16

*facepalm*

That is only because He worried that people would start worshipping him rather than God. I think that is quite respectful if you ask me. 

Your question came in response to my post that Muhammad believed Jesus was a prophet. Your question was this: "Did he believe that or create it?" To which I said both, as he wouldn't have taken so much effort out of his life to create it if he didn't believe himself to be right. You then asked if it was a PC answer. I said no, as it is no secret that I think Islam is wrong. That's IT. I haven't avoided your question or changed the subject, and I defy you to show me where it is. You question stemmed from my point that I was looking at the situation from the view of Islam, therefore that point was relevant to our discussion, period.

Theokhoth

The history of Islam is not relevant to this discussion. Sorry.:)

Off for now....bye.

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]I guess Muhammad must be rather ugly if his face is so offensive. That's not a very nice way of treating your own prophet.ghoklebutter

*facepalm*

That is only because He worried that people would start worshipping him rather than God. I think that is quite respectful if you ask me. 

Isn't getting all up in arms over people not following that kind of ironic then since it was a request of Mohammed and not Allah?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Your question came in response to my post that Muhammad believed Jesus was a prophet. Your question was this: "Did he believe that or create it?" To which I said both, as he wouldn't have taken so much effort out of his life to create it if he didn't believe himself to be right. You then asked if it was a PC answer. I said no, as it is no secret that I think Islam is wrong. That's IT. I haven't avoided your question or changed the subject, and I defy you to show me where it is. You question stemmed from my point that I was looking at the situation from the view of Islam, therefore that point was relevant to our discussion, period.

 

LJS9502_basic

The history of Islam is not relevant to this discussion. Sorry.:)

You asked me a question. I explicitly answered your damn question. Your issue is you mistakenly think it was a PC answer. And what's this record? I'm not in court.

Your question had to do with the history of Islam!:lol: "Did Muhammad believe that or create it?" is a bit of a historical question.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]I guess Muhammad must be rather ugly if his face is so offensive. That's not a very nice way of treating your own prophet.SpaceMoose

*facepalm*

That is only because He worried that people would start worshipping him rather than God. I think that is quite respectful if you ask me. 

Isn't getting all up in arms over people not following that kind of ironic then since it was a request of Mohammed and not Allah?

Look at the previous posts Theokhoth made in this topic. H eexplains it clearer. 

[QUOTE="DrSponge"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"]

With all due respect, I find this more offensive.

*pic*

Those signs were everywhere when the Danish cartoon came about.

AirGuitarist87

Sweet Jesus, he really is ugly. No wonder he doesn't like to be seen.SolidSnake35

best explanation ever. You sir win 2 kittens, they come with the post, their survival not guranted

and about the whole muslim issue: cry more, we live in a free society, if you don't like it there are planes flying to Iran. Giving up some of our most important freedoms beacose a minority of people feels all touchy is ****

[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]I don't see anything. What am I supposed to be looking at? Could you post a pic?AirGuitarist87

It's muhammad at the kaba.:|

With all due respect, I find this more offensive.

Those signs were everywhere when the Danish cartoon came about.

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]

 

It's muhammad at the kaba.:|

Funky_Llama

With all due respect, I find this more offensive.

Those signs were everywhere when the Danish cartoon came about.

And contradiction of the highest level.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

If it was Jesus then it's ok.

Making fun of Christians is ok.

Posting a picture of Muhammad not ok!

Funky_Llama

Completely different; posting pictures of Muhammed is offensive to Muslims -- the same cannot be said for Jesus and Christians. :|

What were Theokhoth and LJS arguing over? I can't be bothered to go back and check. :P

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

If it was Jesus then it's ok.

Making fun of Christians is ok.

Posting a picture of Muhammad not ok!

MetalGear_Ninty

Completely different; posting pictures of Muhammed is offensive to Muslims -- the same cannot be said for Jesus and Christians. :|

What were Theokhoth and LJS arguing over? I can't be bothered to go back and check. :P

Funky_Llama

Something about a question LJ asked Theokhoth, and Theokhoth supposably gave a "PC answer." Bla bla bla... 

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Based on the context of his post (addressing the statement that hating Muslims was the equivalent to racism) and the fact that he didn't use a comma, I'll go with my interpretation until he clarifies himself.

Theokhoth

I know. . . that's what I said as well.:|

I did say, however, that hating an entire group of people constitutes the same reasoning as racism, and that fundamentally the two are not that much different from eachother. You're just born with one (race).

Don't put words in my mouth.

Somebodies race doesn't tell you anything about somebody else, apart from physical appearance, whilst, someones religion tells you their fundamental beliefs in life.

What were Theokhoth and LJS arguing over? I can't be bothered to go back and check. :P

Funky_Llama

Arguing with LJS9502_basic is one of the most counterproductive things you can do on here.  I'm not saying any argument he made in this thread has any sort of subtle fallacy to it (I didn't even read them anyway), but if you gave him enough time he could probably put forth an argument over the course of many posts that the ocean is made out of Pepsi and eventually you'd just give up on the subject out of utter frustration with his insistence upon the matter. :lol:

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

What were Theokhoth and LJS arguing over? I can't be bothered to go back and check. :P

SpaceMoose

Arguing with LJS9502_basic is one of the most counterproductive things you can do on here. I'm not saying any argument he made in this thread has any sort of subtle fallacy to it (I didn't even read them anyway), but if you gave him enough time he could probably put forth an argument over the course of many posts that the ocean is made out of Pepsi and eventually you'd just give up on the subject out of utter frustration with his insistence upon the matter. :lol:

People making fun out of this,I feel sorry for you.God's curse may come on you very soon.:(Thinker_reborn

I don't get why that would be offensive.  Regardless, Wikipedia shouldn't have to censor their pages because some people find them offensive. 

I have replaced Muhammad with Spongebob are you happy now? Overrated_Hero

How dare you disrespect Muhammad! You should be put to death for showing such disrespect towards our humble religion of peace!

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]There's nothing wrong with that.Thinker_reborn

And we muslims just dont want any portrayed images of Muhammad.What's so wrong about it?

Good for you Muslims. Unfortunately for you, you don't decide what everyone else decides to do with their freedom of speech. You can cry about how your fragile innocent feelings are hurt all you want though. 

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="helium_flash"]

I thought it was only disrespectful to have pictures of Allah and ok to have pictures of Muhammad?

Regardless, I dont see how anyone could make a fuss over this.

Salvy41

That is cause for concern.. 

His head is on fire and he has no face... he's like some really epic comic book villain!

[QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"][QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]People making fun out of this,I feel sorry for you.God's curse may come on you very soon.:(xMOBSTER23x

I challenge God to a fight! And Muhammed. So he doesn't actually have a face...

[QUOTE="xMOBSTER23x"]

[QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"] Interesting...i'll be waiting for it.Bloodbath_87

I challenge God to a fight! And Muhammed. So he doesn't actually have a face...

Maybe Muhammad will...why don't you ask him... oh wait he has no ears

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Islam is not a race.:|MetalGear_Ninty

I know. . . that's what I said as well.:|

I did say, however, that hating an entire group of people constitutes the same reasoning as racism, and that fundamentally the two are not that much different from eachother. You're just born with one (race).

Don't put words in my mouth.

Somebodies race doesn't tell you anything about somebody else, apart from physical appearance, whilst, someones religion tells you their fundamental beliefs in life.

Not necessarily. For example, if you had just met me and I told you I was a Christian, would you believe I was also gay ? Probably not, yet *snaps fingers* here we are!

There's also the denominational factor. Yes, you're a Christian/Muslim/Jew/whatever, but what denomination/sect/sub-group? They all believe different things.

THEN we have the issue of whether or not you're a practising xyz. 

But I see your overall point.

On south park god gets portyrayed as a donkey looking thing but christians/catholics dont care. friutpunch

Joking?  

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I know. . . that's what I said as well.:|

I did say, however, that hating an entire group of people constitutes the same reasoning as racism, and that fundamentally the two are not that much different from eachother. You're just born with one (race).

Don't put words in my mouth.

Theokhoth

Somebodies race doesn't tell you anything about somebody else, apart from physical appearance, whilst, someones religion tells you their fundamental beliefs in life.

Not necessarily. For example, if you had just met me and I told you I was a Christian, would you believe I was also gay ? Probably not, yet *snaps fingers* here we are!

There's also the denominational factor. Yes, you're a Christian/Muslim/Jew/whatever, but what denomination/sect/sub-group? They all believe different things.

THEN we have the issue of whether or not you're a practising xyz.

But I see your overall point.

With theism, a person's whole philosophical, moral and social perspective is moulded by that one concept of 'God'. But you're right that it varies on religious denominations.

In truth, there isn't one God, but 6 billion in the mind of every human on this planet. But I suppose you wouldn't agree with that. :P