WTF wikipedia posts imaginery pictures of Prophet Muhammad!!!

[QUOTE="harashawn"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]Hate can be extremely justified? Even when Islam is a pretty peaceful religion? Silverbond

Aren't most religions peaceful? :?

[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

Not one of those images (origial artifacts) appears to be made by anything other than middle-eastern/arab/Muslim hands.

Theokhoth

Not in the eighth century, honey.

Come on, that is plain ignorant. Are you honestly trying to tell me there were absolutely NO Arabs that were atheist in the eighth century?Silverbond

They probably would have been killed if there were. 

Also, they didn't have the scientific "facts" that we know today. 

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]There are atheistic Middle Easterners and Arabs.Silverbond

Not in the eighth century, honey.

Yes. Yes I am. Because being an atheist back then was akin to modern-day lunacy. And even if there were atheists in that region back then, the depictions of Muhammad were not made by their hands.

I meant Islam is peaceful. The guy/girl who quoted me said most religions are. I responded by saying the topic is about Islam.Silverbond

I'm not a girl! :cry: 

I think muslims have every right to be angry

Muslims and mohammad himself have asked for people not to post pictures of him. And i think that we should listen to them. out of respect for their religion and out of respect for the man himself. Its not like they're asking alot. and the ignorant people acting as if they had done nothing wrong should be ashamed of themselves.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Not in the eighth century, honey.

Theokhoth

Yes. Yes I am. Because being an atheist back then was akin to modern-day lunacy. And even if there were atheists in that region back then, the depictions of Muhammad were not made by their hands.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]Come on, that is plain ignorant. Are you honestly trying to tell me there were absolutely NO Arabs that were atheist in the eighth century?Silverbond

Yes. Yes I am. Because being an atheist back then was akin to modern-day lunacy. And even if there were atheists in that region back then, the depictions of Muhammad were not made by their hands.

Lunacy can't be helped, but atheism can. 

You can't prove a negative. You need to prove that there were Arab atheists back then. It shouldn't be too hard; if there were, surely you'd find one or two of their writings. 

You would then need to prove that the atheists made the religious paintings.:lol:

[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Yes. Yes I am. Because being an atheist back then was akin to modern-day lunacy. And even if there were atheists in that region back then, the depictions of Muhammad were not made by their hands.

Theokhoth

Lunacy can't be helped, but atheism can.

You can't prove a negative. You need to prove that there were Arab atheists back then. It shouldn't be too hard; if there were, surely you'd find one or two of their writings.

You would then need to prove that the atheists made the religious paintings.:lol:

In the 8th century, orthodox Islam reached the Fergana valley with the Uzbeks. Atheism, on the other hand, took some following in the northern regions under Russian communist influence.

^^^There's your proof of atheistic Arabs. I'll come back with the link later.

This thread has brought me great lulz. Thank you.

I think muslims have every right to be angry

Muslims and mohammad himself have asked for people not to post pictures of him. And i think that we should listen to them. out of respect for their religion and out of respect for the man himself. Its not like they're asking alot. and the ignorant people acting as if they had done nothing wrong should be ashamed of themselves.

xbox3604lyf

This brings me the obligatory: "So what?". Who cares. It's for informational purposes, which I'd rate higher on a scale of importance than religious respect.

This thread has brought me great lulz. Thank you.

[QUOTE="xbox3604lyf"]

I think muslims have every right to be angry

Muslims and mohammad himself have asked for people not to post pictures of him. And i think that we should listen to them. out of respect for their religion and out of respect for the man himself. Its not like they're asking alot. and the ignorant people acting as if they had done nothing wrong should be ashamed of themselves.

GodLovesDead

This brings me the obligatory: "So what?". Who cares. It's for informational purposes, which I'd rate higher on a scale of importance than religious respect.

as would I  

You asked me a question. I explicitly answered your damn question. Your issue is you mistakenly think it was a PC answer. And what's this record? I'm not in court.

Your question had to do with the history of Islam!:lol: "Did Muhammad believe that or create it?" is a bit of a historical question.

Theokhoth

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="darkIink"]

There are various clip of jesus and god doing pretty bad stuff on family guy. No christian on GS throws a hissy fit when jesus's miracles were protrayed as just bad street magic, so why this thread?

I'm a lifelong christian btw

LJS9502_basic

As Theokoth said, it is forbidden to draw Phophet Muhammad's face because He feared people would worship him instead of God.

People making fun out of this,I feel sorry for you.God's curse may come on you very soon.:(Thinker_reborn

There is no god! 

In the words of bruce almighty, "smite me almighty smiter!' (i'm speaking to god) 

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

As Theokoth said, it is forbidden to draw Phophet Muhammad's face because He feared people would worship him instead of God.

darkIink

What? I'm confused.

For anyone who's said people shouldn't make pictures of Muhammad because we all know it offends people:

I find other people breathing offensive. Why would you breath when you know it offends me? Stop it now! :x

For anyone who's said people shouldn't make pictures of Muhammad because we all know it offends people:

I find other people breathing offensive. Why would you breath when you know it offends me? Stop it now! :x

Crypto138

I stopped breathing  can I has a cookie *dies*

wait I'm confuedSilverbond

you cut some stuff out, or it might be glitchspot again. this should read

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="darkIink"]

There are various clip of jesus and god doing pretty bad stuff on family guy. No christian on GS throws a hissy fit when jesus's miracles were protrayed as just bad street magic, so why this thread?

I'm a lifelong christian btw

darkIink

Yes. For a Muslim. Not for anyone else.

 and what I was saying was that just as christians might be offended by jesus portrayed in a bad way (example of family guy), I never heard any christians asking seth macfarlane to stop that. and muslims should follow suit in that you shouldn't censor anyone even if it is hurting your religion. e

dits: yes it was glitchspot.

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

1. it's wikipedia, what do you expect?

2. honestly, do you think that this is the only page being defiled?

3. there are some people who hate muslims, and quite frankly, i believe it can be extremely justified in some cases. deal with it.

Silverbond

every religion "promotes" peace. i look at what followers actually do.

i'm not saying that every muslim is bad, or even that the religion is bad. every religion can be good if followed properly.

but, there are people that hate muslims, and quite frankly how intolerant and backwards muslim society is just escapes me.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

1. it's wikipedia, what do you expect?

2. honestly, do you think that this is the only page being defiled?

3. there are some people who hate muslims, and quite frankly, i believe it can be extremely justified in some cases. deal with it.

mistervengeance

every religion "promotes" peace. i look at what followers actually do.

i'm not saying that every muslim is bad, or even that the religion is bad. every religion can be good if followed properly.

but, there are people that hate muslims, and quite frankly how intolerant and backwards muslim society is just escapes me.

what do you mean by backwords?

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]Hate can be extremely justified? Even when Islam is a pretty peaceful religion? freshgman

every religion "promotes" peace. i look at what followers actually do.

i'm not saying that every muslim is bad, or even that the religion is bad. every religion can be good if followed properly.

but, there are people that hate muslims, and quite frankly how intolerant and backwards muslim society is just escapes me.

what do you mean by backwords?

Muhammad...

Durka durka...

[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

1. it's wikipedia, what do you expect?

2. honestly, do you think that this is the only page being defiled?

3. there are some people who hate muslims, and quite frankly, i believe it can be extremely justified in some cases. deal with it.

mistervengeance

every religion "promotes" peace. i look at what followers actually do.

i'm not saying that every muslim is bad, or even that the religion is bad. every religion can be good if followed properly.

but, there are people that hate muslims, and quite frankly how intolerant and backwards muslim society is just escapes me.

Keep democracy out Islamic countries.

I don't get it.

Am I supposed to get mad or something?

Muhammed

Jesus

"Look at me,I'm Jesus. Would you like to me to crap on you Mr. Bush? Yummy Yummy Crap"

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"][IMGhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Siyer-i_Nebi_151b.jpg/180px-Siyer-i_Nebi_151b.jpg[/IMG] It's muhammad at the kaba.:| Funky_Llama

If it was Jesus then it's ok.

Making fun of Christians is ok.

Posting a picture of Muhammad not ok! 

Chutebox

GuNxSh0cK

 You might want to rethink that post...

[QUOTE="GuNxSh0cK"]harashawn

 You might want to rethink that post...

I have a great idea! It's simple: if you find the page offensive, don't look at it.

Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Deihjan"]Wiki also has pictures of God, even if christians arent allowed to depict him either... But we still have it on Wiki... :roll:Deihjan

According to the minister who taught me and my classmates in 7th grade when we were about to be confirmated, christians arent allowed to depict the Lord.

firstly, those are interpretations of what muhammed(pbuh) might have looked like, they not accurate, secondly chrisitans make fun of jessus(pbuh) themselves. if a muslim ever makes fun of jesus(pbuh) this is wrong and tell them it's our prophet aswell.-Y2J-

But regardless christians themselves make fun of jesus so who would they complain anyways.

Look at the passion of christ LOL whereas muhammad was only shown in first person with no voice acting in the movie on Islam.

Christians dont even have any respect for their own God,why should anyone bother about their feelings!!

[QUOTE="-Y2J-"]firstly, those are interpretations of what muhammed(pbuh) might have looked like, they not accurate, secondly chrisitans make fun of jessus(pbuh) themselves. if a muslim ever makes fun of jesus(pbuh) this is wrong and tell them it's our prophet aswell.Thinker_reborn

But regardless christians themselves make fun of jesus so who would they complain anyways.

Look at the passion of christ LOL whereas muhammad was only shown in first person with no voice acting in the movie on Islam.

Christians dont even have any respect for their own God,why should anyone bother about their feelings!!

[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]There's nothing wrong with that.EMOEVOLUTION

And we muslims just dont want any portrayed images of Muhammad.What's so wrong about it?

Non Muslims don't have to practice your beliefs. It's not to disrespect you. Get over it. 

LOL, who gives a flying crap? :lol:  It's just a picture!

[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]I don't see anything. What am I supposed to be looking at? Could you post a pic?Theokhoth

It's muhammad at the kaba.:|

Dude, there's art like that all throughout Muslim history.:| Notice how Muhammad's face is whited out in that? Muslim art portrays him as that. In Islam, you're not supposed to show his face; the rest of his body is fine.

Geez.

If respecting our beliefs effected a non-mulsim than I'll understand but what harm would come to anyone by not showing pictures of muhammad?What benefit does anyone get by showing his pictures when they arent even real?Thinker_reborn

Since when did an encyclopedia have to limit itself because of religious taboo, when explaining something. It would worry me more if they did limit themselves because of taboos... 

The TC must be joking ( which doesn't even make sense:| ) because it's not even a picture. That character doesn't even have a face! It's just a simple visual representation of the prophet praying towards Mecca.7guns

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]When they know it offends many people than why do it?

 

And we muslims just dont want any portrayed images of Muhammad.What's so wrong about it?

Thinker_reborn

Non Muslims don't have to practice your beliefs. It's not to disrespect you. Get over it. 

[QUOTE="7guns"]The TC must be joking ( which doesn't even make sense:| ) because it's not even a picture. That character doesn't even have a face! It's just a simple visual representation of the prophet praying towards Mecca.Thinker_reborn

Then why did you make such a big deal about the picture you posted if there was, in fact, nothing wrong with it... :|

[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]If respecting our beliefs effected a non-mulsim than I'll understand but what harm would come to anyone by not showing pictures of muhammad?What benefit does anyone get by showing his pictures when they arent even real?DeeJayInphinity

Exactly. Respecting another's beliefs is NOT the same thing as actually having to ADHERE to them. Muslims are not allowed to depict the prophet (pbhn) or Allah, and that's great, but why should that belief force all non-believers to ALSO adhere to the rule, any more than a non-Jew must observe the Sabbath?