Your Thoughts on My Father's Reaction

I am surprised by some of the responses in this thread. Yes, he did overreact; but many of your responses are just as bad, if not worse than his. If you think you're better than him because you're "more tolerant", re-read your own post and think again. harashawn

Uh...YEAH.

All other things being equal, a homophobe IS worse than someone who respects gays, a, misogynist IS worse than someone who doesn't hate women, and an anti-semite IS worse than someone who doesn't hate Jews.

[QUOTE="clayron"]

[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]Silly old folks just don't know any better.. :lol:warbmxjohn

Lol. Its funny that he says his grandpa always uses the "N" word, but he is not as bad as the TC dad who reacted crazy once. :lol: I am laughing so hard there are tears.

:lol: Btw. Bear riding a shark holding a tommy gun = Epic Awesomeness.

Uh...YEAH.

All other things being equal, a homophobe IS worse than someone who respects gays, a, misogynist IS worse than someone who doesn't hate women, and an anti-semite IS worse than someone who doesn't hate Jews.

MrGeezer

I was referring to responses like: "I think your dad is the garbage. I hope he gets beat up for being a homophobe."

Instead of someone hating homosexuals, it's someone hating people who "hate" homosexuals. How is that any more tolerant?

[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="clayron"]

Lol. Its funny that he says his grandpa always uses the "N" word, but he is not as bad as the TC dad who reacted crazy once. :lol: I am laughing so hard there are tears.

clayron

:lol: Btw. Bear riding a shark holding a tommy gun = Epic Awesomeness.

[QUOTE="harashawn"] I am surprised by some of the responses in this thread. Yes, he did overreact; but many of your responses are just as bad, if not worse than his. If you think you're better than him because you're "more tolerant", re-read your own post and think again. MrGeezer

Uh...YEAH.

All other things being equal, a homophobe IS worse than someone who respects gays, a, misogynist IS worse than someone who doesn't hate women, and an anti-semite IS worse than someone who doesn't hate Jews.

Why? Simply hating someone can beinnocuous. A person who does not like, or hates, a particular group of people is not necessarily a worse person than someone who like those people. It is how that person acts towards, and treats, people (whether it be on an individual basis or as a whole) that determines whether or not they are a bad person. I am aware you said "Worse than".

Lets take an extreme example, shall we?

Lets say we have a Misogynistic douche-bag who hates women, but is heterosexual (not an important distinction just for the sake of this example). Lets now say he never openly acts upon that hate, and instead just keeps it bottled up. In fact, you would not know he hated women unless he openly told you. Thats just the kind of guy he is. Okay. Lets introduce a man who loves women - a ladies man, of sorts, but disrespects a large proportion of the women he meets even his own mother :o. Lets make him someone who is prone to verbal abuse, but he swears he loves women.

Considering only this example, who is the worse person?

Your dad is a very narrow minded man.

Btw, I'm not a homosexual, I have a girlfriend.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Uh...YEAH.

All other things being equal, a homophobe IS worse than someone who respects gays, a, misogynist IS worse than someone who doesn't hate women, and an anti-semite IS worse than someone who doesn't hate Jews.

harashawn

I was referring to responses like: "I think your dad is the garbage. I hope he gets beat up for being a homophobe."

Instead of someone hating homosexuals, it's someone hating people who "hate" homosexuals. How is that any more tolerant?

Well I admit that I don't agree that the man should be beaten up, but you're also talking to someone who doesn't think that child rapists and serial killers should be executed.

But that doesn'tr mean that hating a child rapist is in the same ballpark as hating children enough to rape them.

Yeah dude, hating the people who hate people simply for what they are is not nearly as bad. On one hand you have trhe people who hate hatred, and on the the other hand you have the people who hate the gays. On one hand you have the people who were disowned by their family for being gay and on the other hand you have the ****bags who disowned their own ****ing sons and daughters for being gay.

They are not in the same ballpark, that's not even in the same ****ing sport. And yes, one group is absolutely 100% far worse than the other. One group is responding to persecution (albeit possibly not in the most productive way), and the other group just plain don't be toleratin' no gayness.

i dont approve of your dads reaction, but meh, nothing ya can do about it.

I think it's terribly closed-minded of him.

I mean, you should respect your dad's opinions and everything, but he needs to realize that you're your own person too and he needs to respect what you think as well.

Please. Don't even pretend like this is harmless. The dude's DAD forbade his son from even WATCHING a movie that portrayed homosexuality as something normal and human.

Don't even TRY to tell me that this kind of person would tolerate his own son bringing home a boyfriend.

These are EXACTLY the kinds of people who abandon their own shildren for being gay.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Uh...YEAH.

All other things being equal, a homophobe IS worse than someone who respects gays, a, misogynist IS worse than someone who doesn't hate women, and an anti-semite IS worse than someone who doesn't hate Jews.

harashawn

I was referring to responses like: "I think your dad is the garbage. I hope he gets beat up for being a homophobe."

Instead of someone hating homosexuals, it's someone hating people who "hate" homosexuals. How is that any more tolerant?

Your dads reaction was normal... A lot of people probably feel the same way as your father. I dont have a problem with gays, you obviously don't either. Everyone has their own opinion, truely open minded people realize that and dont crucify people like your father for their beliefs(or anyone else for that matter).

Your dads reaction was normal... A lot of people probably feel the same way as your father. I dont have a problem with gays, you obviously don't either. Everyone has their own opinion, truely open minded people realize that and dont crucify people like your father for their beliefs(or anyone else for that matter).

Joelo8112002

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He's not comfortable with gays. Man of a different time I guess.

[QUOTE="Joelo8112002"]

Your dads reaction was normal... A lot of people probably feel the same way as your father. I dont have a problem with gays, you obviously don't either. Everyone has their own opinion, truely open minded people realize that and dont crucify people like your father for their beliefs(or anyone else for that matter).

clayron

Sig = Wow

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Uh...YEAH.

All other things being equal, a homophobe IS worse than someone who respects gays, a, misogynist IS worse than someone who doesn't hate women, and an anti-semite IS worse than someone who doesn't hate Jews.

harashawn

I was referring to responses like: "I think your dad is the garbage. I hope he gets beat up for being a homophobe."

Instead of someone hating homosexuals, it's someone hating people who "hate" homosexuals. How is that any more tolerant?

i see the logic youre using, but it doesnt really apply here.

An intolerant person has a negative impact on society, and deserves to be discriminated against and punished just like any bigot, villian, thief, etc deserves to be. An intolerant person, like a discriminating dad, is preaching and perpetuating hate...that is, as far as I am concerned, a crime against humanity.

Listen, if the guy's dad said "Wow, I really dont like to see men kissing" and cant explain why...thats ok. But he took it too far by saying the things he did. Its one thing to be uncomfortable with something that is not familiar, and quite another to be intolerant of it.

Please. Don't even pretend like this is harmless. The dude's DAD forbade his son from even WATCHING a movie that portrayed homosexuality as something normal and human.

Don't even TRY to tell me that this kind of person would tolerate his own son bringing home a boyfriend.

These are EXACTLY the kinds of people who abandon their own shildren for being gay.

MrGeezer

that happened to a friend of mine during high school. His dad disowned him and the mom was some stupid, passive housewife with no voice so my family essentially took him in (he was a childhood friend and just up the street).

Eventually the dad overcome his fear/distaste for homosexuality and tolerated his son's decision and took him back in, but I think that was mainly because he was going off to college within 6 months.

It was sad as hell.

You're dad has every right in the world to have an opinion on it, but he shouldn't be able to dictate what you watch. It might have an interest for you and shows you a part of history that most people don't often talk about. He should just go off and do his own stuff if he doesn't like it.

Well its sad that your Dad automatically judges any gay person to be awful and corrupting... That is definantly not his place to make any judgement on someone for his sins, yes its wrong but that doesnt mean anyone should be treated like shht... or talked about like shht, gotta make our goals to Love, just my opinion

I usually find that people who express hatred and disgusttowards homosexuals are very insecure about their own sexuality. Well, at least openly.

if i were you, no offense, id be soo embarrased of my dad, and after he said what he said to you, id say " i'm moving out the day i turn 18 and as of that day, you are no longer part of my life you ignorant close minded fool, i feel soo sorry for mom to have to live with you the rest of your sorry good for nothing life"nimatoad2000

Generally my Mom is even worse than my Dad.

I think your username sums it up quite well.DrSponge

How was I stupid in this situation?

Well I admit that I don't agree that the man should be beaten up, but you're also talking to someone who doesn't think that child rapists and serial killers should be executed.

But that doesn'tr mean that hating a child rapist is in the same ballpark as hating children enough to rape them.

Yeah dude, hating the people who hate people simply for what they are is not nearly as bad. On one hand you have trhe people who hate hatred, and on the the other hand you have the people who hate the gays. On one hand you have the people who were disowned by their family for being gay and on the other hand you have the ****bags who disowned their own ****ing sons and daughters for being gay.

They are not in the same ballpark, that's not even in the same ****ing sport. And yes, one group is absolutely 100% far worse than the other. One group is responding to persecution (albeit possibly not in the most productive way), and the other group just plain don't be toleratin' no gayness.

MrGeezer

my 33 year old bro is gay and let me tell you something your dad is an idiot. and i say that because homoseuality is not a choice. i admit when i found out about my bro i freaked out and i started realising if it wasnt for him my mom me and my sister wouldve been out on the street. my bro took care of all of us and honestly who cares whos what? there are some family members who dont aprove of me dating a black woman but you know what if they love me they would except it. ( uncles and 2 aunts) who im refering to

I don't hate gay people, but I do disapprove act. I also disapprove of making a movie glorifying it as well. Now its none of my business if your gay or not, on the contrary, I couldn't less, just as long as the lifestyle isn't forced upon me, and as long as you don't get married. Man, wrong thread for me to express my opinion on homosexuality in:lol:.

I don't hate gay people, but I do disapprove act. I also disapprove of making a movie glorifying it as well. Now its none of my business if your gay or not, on the contrary, I couldn't less, just as long as the lifestyle isn't forced upon me, and as long as you don't get married. Man, wrong thread for me to express my opinion on homosexuality in:lol:.

KH-mixerX

That has never bothered me. However, seeing gay men kiss is cartoons make me cringe.

Here are my thoughts--you shouldn't have created a thread about something that should be discussed between you and your father. ;) Most of the posters have insulted your father, and he is not here to defend himself.

Also, if you knew your father didn't like gay people, then you should have warned him up front about what the movie was. If he doesn't want you watching the movie, well, it's his house, and you have to abide by the rules of the house. Now if this were a book, I'd be singing a different tune, but unlike a book that you can find on the subject, the movie is there quite simply for entertainment value.

Your Dad is an ignorant fool. Master_Sandall

yup, its sad

if i were you, no offense, id be soo embarrased of my dad, and after he said what he said to you, id say " i'm moving out the day i turn 18 and as of that day, you are no longer part of my life you ignorant close minded fool, i feel soo sorry for mom to have to live with you the rest of your sorry good for nothing life"nimatoad2000

So the other day I rented the movie Milk. It won numerous Academy awards and it starred two of my favorite actors, Sean Penn and James Franco. Well that night I popped it into the blue-ray player and started watching it. My Dad decided to watch the movie with me and I knew he was not going to like it. Within 5 minutes of the movie begining he made me turn it off because of the first gay kiss scene. He then went on to say that he "did not want to see that garbage" and that "there is something wrong with gay people" and that "it should be illegal to be gay and "Milk is not a real movie, its a gay porno" and finally he told me "I should not expose the family to this filth". (By the way I am not homosexual).

So what are your thoughts on my Dad's reaction? I knew that he did not like gay people, but I had no idea he had that much hatred towards them.

stupid4

He's just old fassioned. It's natural to be a little disturbed by things your not used to. When he was growing up most people were gay-ist, unlike you ( I assume) he's probably never had the chance to really get to know a gay person.alphamale1989

[QUOTE="alphamale1989"]He's just old fassioned. It's natural to be a little disturbed by things your not used to. When he was growing up most people were gay-ist, unlike you ( I assume) he's probably never had the chance to really get to know a gay person.D3nnyCrane

[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"][QUOTE="alphamale1989"]He's just old fassioned. It's natural to be a little disturbed by things your not used to. When he was growing up most people were gay-ist, unlike you ( I assume) he's probably never had the chance to really get to know a gay person.AirGuitarist87

pretty typical reaction from a parent

I think a man has a right to get pissed off if he's in his own house, minding his own business, and someone puts something on his TV that he's uncomfortable with. I guess the solution is this: Watch Milk once you pay for your own room and board, on your own TV in your own Blu-ray player. Then when your dad starts lecturing you, you can tell him to **** off. But as far as I'm concerned, it's his house, and he has a right to say whatever he wants about the matter in the privacy of his own home.

You can't MAKE people be comfortable with things. They either are tolerant of it, or they aren't. Didn't Barney Frank just call Antonin Scalia a homophobe in public? That doesn't sound very tolerant, either. I imagine many gay people would not be tolerant of having an anti-gay movie played in their home, but that's just a hunch. I don't see how this is all that different.