BF3 PC Patch 1.04 Available Now - Thoughts?

So the PC patch is live! What are you thoughts?!

The FAMAS seems pretty... different

The stingers seem useless now, that's the only major difference I've noticed. They seem unable to lock on at anything more than 10 metres....

A few hours of work left and then I can go check it out.

Stupid work and responsibilties.

A lot of the early threads I saw on it were complaining about the tanks, that they've become useless. Though it actually sounds like people just can't rambo with tanks all over the map anymore.

Any truth to this?

Downloading now, will hopefully have time to try it out tonight. All I want is improved performance and hit detection/lagAdamPA1006

A few hours of work left and then I can go check it out.

Stupid work and responsibilties.

A lot of the early threads I saw on it were complaining about the tanks, that they've become useless. Though it actually sounds like people just can't rambo with tanks all over the map anymore.

Any truth to this?

Wasdie

havent tried out the tank properly yet, but the canister is not improved...

There is so much rage on the Battlelog forums, it's really hard to understand if people like it or not.

There is so much rage on the Battlelog forums, it's really hard to understand if people like it or not.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

There is so much rage on the Battlelog forums, it's really hard to understand if people like it or not.

trastamad03

The only thing I really agree with the whiners is the lack of VoiP and squad communication functions. I even miss the commander.

Unfortunately it still sucks balls.

[QUOTE="trastamad03"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

There is so much rage on the Battlelog forums, it's really hard to understand if people like it or not.

Wasdie

The only thing I really agree with the whiners is the lack of VoiP and squad communication functions. I even miss the commander.

[QUOTE="trastamad03"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

There is so much rage on the Battlelog forums, it's really hard to understand if people like it or not.

Wasdie

The only thing I really agree with the whiners is the lack of VoiP and squad communication functions. I even miss the commander.

And from my BF2 days, I guess I had terrible luck, but I always ended up on the team with the Persistant-Bad Commander that thinks he's good and so I never like the system.

A few hours of work left and then I can go check it out.

Stupid work and responsibilties.

A lot of the early threads I saw on it were complaining about the tanks, that they've become useless. Though it actually sounds like people just can't rambo with tanks all over the map anymore.

Any truth to this?

Wasdie

EA, you f**king idiots. We can now pay to unlock all the items.. kris9031998

EA, you f**king idiots. We can now pay to unlock all the items.. kris9031998

So?

Your ego can't handle that others can buy the unlocks?

[QUOTE="kris9031998"]EA, you f**king idiots. We can now pay to unlock all the items.. Lox_Cropek

That's one hell of conclusion.

You could buy the weapons in BC2, or do you not remember that?

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="kris9031998"]EA, you f**king idiots. We can now pay to unlock all the items.. Wasdie

That's one hell of conclusion.

You could buy the weapons in BC2, or do you not remember that?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]Confirmed: Next Battlefield having a monthly-fee

Lox_Cropek

That's one hell of conclusion.

You could buy the weapons in BC2, or do you not remember that?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]Confirmed: Next Battlefield having a monthly-fee

Lox_Cropek

That's one hell of conclusion.

You could buy the weapons in BC2, or do you not remember that?

Yes. Granted, it wasn't for every single unlock, but it was for a lot of the weapons. It didn't change anything. A lot of people are overreacting to it.

BF3 is causing some of the most amount of drama I've ever seen for a video game. The funny part is how the numbers are staying solid with like 50-70k people playing at a time during the week.

It's just the new face of PC gaming I guess. If people hated it as much as they say, the numbers wouldn't be there. Obviously the community has this massive sense of entitlement about the game.

There is so much rage on the Battlelog forums, it's really hard to understand if people like it or not.

Wasdie

BF3 forums, Bioware forums and steam forums ALWAYS have so much **** and complaining, I kind of expect it now out of thsoe places. no matter if its good or bad the update/game,etc..

Also a big reason is that most people who are enjoying the game dont post on BF3 or steam forums as they are busy playing the game and having fun. While most of the people posting are people who are pissed off or have some issues.

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

That's one hell of conclusion.

You could buy the weapons in BC2, or do you not remember that?

Wasdie

Yes. Granted, it wasn't for every single unlock, but it was for a lot of the weapons. It didn't change anything. A lot of people are overreacting to it.

BF3 is causing some of the most amount of drama I've ever seen for a video game. The funny part is how the numbers are staying solid with like 50-70k people playing at a time during the week.

It's just the new face of PC gaming I guess. If people hated it as much as they say, the numbers wouldn't be there. Obviously the community has this massive sense of entitlement about the game.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

There is so much rage on the Battlelog forums, it's really hard to understand if people like it or not.

kozzy1234

BF3 forums, Bioware forums and steam forums ALWAYS have so much **** and complaining, I kind of expect it now out of thsoe places. no matter if its good or bad the update/game,etc..

Also a big reason is that most people who are enjoying the game dont post on BF3 or steam forums as they are busy playing the game and having fun. While most of the people posting are people who are pissed off or have some issues.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

There is so much rage on the Battlelog forums, it's really hard to understand if people like it or not.

kozzy1234

BF3 forums, Bioware forums and steam forums ALWAYS have so much **** and complaining, I kind of expect it now out of thsoe places. no matter if its good or bad the update/game,etc..

Also a big reason is that most people who are enjoying the game dont post on BF3 or steam forums as they are busy playing the game and having fun. While most of the people posting are people who are pissed off or have some issues.

My download keeps pausing. Stupid crappy internet. :PSF_KiLLaMaN

Doesn't seem much different. (Not tried the jets yet)

Pure sht, it's worse than before, went from 3-4 seconds input lag to 10-15, I practically start the game then watch "somebody else" play it, garbage, fully deserves the 6, they did however fix another thing they broke through patches, the server browser.DanielDust

A few hours of work left and then I can go check it out.

Stupid work and responsibilties.

A lot of the early threads I saw on it were complaining about the tanks, that they've become useless. Though it actually sounds like people just can't rambo with tanks all over the map anymore.

Any truth to this?

Wasdie

Definitely. I played in a tank just before and my shots weren't even hitting guys right in front of me. Nor were my canister shells which I could get headshots with from across the map. I only played in them briefly but I think they are very different now

Also it deserves a mention that the maps are now great. The satellite map is awesome and so extremely clear to see what's happening. A huge improvement. The commo rose is also better and the squad system too. You don't have to leave a squad before joining another. You can just click join and it auto joins you to that squad. And the placement of the join button is moved over under the squad itself.

Little things but they are better than before

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]Pure sht, it's worse than before, went from 3-4 seconds input lag to 10-15, I practically start the game then watch "somebody else" play it, garbage, fully deserves the 6, they did however fix another thing they broke through patches, the server browser.SF_KiLLaMaN

Nope, not an exaggeration, I'm actually being kind, it's over 15 seconds, it's not on my end and it's also not an isolated problem.

My PC is more than capable of handing it on the lowest settings with everything turned off at 1680x1050 - Q6600 2.8, 4 gigs DDR 2 1200, GTX570 - (yes this is where BF 3 took me after the first patch they made, when these problems started), I tested at first on a 64 server and then on one with just 14 players, identical performance, ping was excellent, always is, 28 ms, nothing changed since BF 3 was launched on my end only BF 3 through patches, everything else worked, works and will continue to work in optimum conditions. I'll never understand how bad you need o be at your job, coding, to destroy a high profile game and still get paid for it like the staff at DICE (since BC 2, they're sht, just like the games and patches they make).

To think that people complained that games like RO 2 have issues, RO 2 is an outstanding achievement compared to the obscure data DICE manages to put on PCs.

What they added to the game is great, but performance and the fact that it needed several patches to fix the server browser (that worked perfectly fine before the first patch, just like the game, it didn't have input lag, not even in alpha or beta), makes it the worst FPS released in the last several years, BC 2 was much better and I'm not even a fan.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="DanielDust"]Pure sht, it's worse than before, went from 3-4 seconds input lag to 10-15, I practically start the game then watch "somebody else" play it, garbage, fully deserves the 6, they did however fix another thing they broke through patches, the server browser.DanielDust

What are you talking about input lag. I have absolutely no input lag. Do you have Vsync on or something.

You are literally the only person I have seen complain about this

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="DanielDust"]Pure sht, it's worse than before, went from 3-4 seconds input lag to 10-15, I practically start the game then watch "somebody else" play it, garbage, fully deserves the 6, they did however fix another thing they broke through patches, the server browser.DanielDust

I never turn Vsync on for online shooters, there are also videos on youtube about this, might make a video about it sooner or later.DanielDust

I searched and all the videos about input lag were on PS3

Paid unlocks don't bother me since you can still "earn" them by playing the game. As for the patch, I haven't tried it yet (doubt I would until next month).

15 seconds? As in you move your mouse and 15 seconds later it moves in-game? That's what input lag is (although usually it is reffered to when talking about display devices such as a monitor). Do you realize how absurd that sound? I've never seen anyone else with that problem.SF_KiLLaMaN

Redownloading though, was annoyed enough to actually bother to search for a fix (from the players of course, Dice only causes problems, they don't fix).

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]I never turn Vsync on for online shooters, there are also videos on youtube about this, might make a video about it sooner or later.seanmcloughlin

I searched and all the videos about input lag were on PS3

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Try youtube, it's not absurd, it's actually common, there are also PCs there even if you see it as an extremely common problem on PS3 on youtube and yes, of course, you move with the mouse and keyboard, stops responding immediately, you just sit back and watch while the game receives all your commands and it plays on its own.

Redownloading though, was annoyed enough to actually bother to search for a fix (from the players of course, Dice only causes problems, they don't fix).

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]I never turn Vsync on for online shooters, there are also videos on youtube about this, might make a video about it sooner or later.DanielDust

I searched and all the videos about input lag were on PS3

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Try youtube, it's not absurd, it's actually common, there are also PCs there even if you see it as an extremely common problem on PS3 on youtube and yes, of course, you move with the mouse and keyboard, stops responding immediately, you just sit back and watch while the game receives all your commands and it plays on its own.

Redownloading though, was annoyed enough to actually bother to search for a fix (from the players of course, Dice only causes problems, they don't fix).

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]I never turn Vsync on for online shooters, there are also videos on youtube about this, might make a video about it sooner or later.DanielDust

I searched and all the videos about input lag were on PS3

So, anti-air has been nerfed and tanks are even more useless?

Not gonna bother reinstalling the game to check it out. I'm already angry just reading about it.

So, anti-air has been nerfed and tanks are even more useless?

Not gonna bother reinstalling the game to check it out. I'm already angry just reading about it.

with_teeth26

I'm hearing a lot of mixed things.

Apparently the tanks just play differently now and the anti-air is a bit more difficult to use, but apparently a lot of the whining comes from people who do nothing but tank or fly.

I wouldn't just skip it because of what some whiners are flooding the forum with.

[QUOTE="with_teeth26"]

So, anti-air has been nerfed and tanks are even more useless?

Not gonna bother reinstalling the game to check it out. I'm already angry just reading about it.

Wasdie

I'm hearing a lot of mixed things.

Apparently the tanks just play differently now and the anti-air is a bit more difficult to use, but apparently a lot of the whining comes from people who do nothing but tank or fly.

I wouldn't just skip it because of what some whiners are flooding the forum with.

I'll skip it because the game infuriates me for no good reason and I doubt this patch will change that.