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the gtx 480 does seem to beat out the 5870 in most apps, not all, in some it trails well behind.
decent scoring for the gtx480. not bad at all, but i still think im gonna wait a while, see what drivers do for it,
still not enough for me to upgrade just yet.... maybe after new drivers improve performance, if not ill just wait for the hd6### series cards
yes the gtx480 is slightly better than the rumors about it so far, but i still think im gonna wait, it runs hot and is still a first gen dx11 card. (not to mention horrible on power)
by the way im no fanboy, to be loyal to a company that is loyal only to the dollar (just like most companies) is illogical.
lol fail. I'd certianly hope it beats a 5870, but it doesn't come close to the 5970. It runs like an oven too...
thats pretty impressive for 480GTX considering ati has 2 cards built in y gtx480 is a single card i wonder how it will compare to sli
i wonder how it will compare to sliWhiteknight19Yeah that's what I'd like to know. I have a GTX 295 now and I don't see the point upgrading to a single 480, but if the price is "reasonable" 2 in SLI may be just what I'm looking for.
[QUOTE="Whiteknight19"]i wonder how it will compare to sliCellAnimationYeah that's what I'd like to know. I have a GTX 295 now and I don't see the point upgrading to a single 480, but if the price is "reasonable" 2 in SLI may be just what I'm looking for. i think it will come out stonger but then again it does take much when u go crossfire
[QUOTE="iliatay"]
im still going to get gtx 480 or 470. Alas I will be free of Catalyst Control Centre!!!! imo the performance doesnt look bad at all except for crysis. It even beats 5970 in Dirt 2!
chris24l
you don't need CCC if you use MSIafterburner, it works great.
thats only for overclocking and i didnt mean just the ccc, but the whole driver itself is just utter crap!! for the past 10 months, i havent gained even 1fps in any of my games.well, it would do since its running in DX9 mode. The ATI cards are running in DX11.im still going to get gtx 480 or 470. Alas I will be free of Catalyst Control Centre!!!! imo the performance doesnt look bad at all except for crysis. It even beats 5970 in Dirt 2!
iliatay
[QUOTE="chris24l"][QUOTE="iliatay"]
im still going to get gtx 480 or 470. Alas I will be free of Catalyst Control Centre!!!! imo the performance doesnt look bad at all except for crysis. It even beats 5970 in Dirt 2!
iliatay
you don't need CCC if you use MSIafterburner, it works great.
thats only for overclocking and i didnt mean just the ccc, but the whole driver itself is just utter crap!! for the past 10 months, i havent gained even 1fps in any of my games.afterburner also controls fan profiles and monitoring, I have had steady FPS increases since the 4890 came out, the drivers have been great for me.
Well that settles it, unless someone really cares for 3D gaming of CUDA then iam going to suggest ATI video cards...5850 FTW!
:shock: wth's up with this?smc91352No need for the SPOILER tag. Just put the information out there. This is a thread about information, good or bad.
Hope it is worth it. As for me I am glad I went ATI this round.wohoo look at that!! 100 mhz overclock on core is still really good. and u guys said it wont oc... definately getting a gtx480, maybe even a 470
iliatay
-The good part: the new Fermi cards are now on par with the 58XX cards in terms of AA quality and performance; the SLI performance is better than Crossfire in most of cases, the overall advantage of the GTX 480 above the HD 5870 is about a 10-15%.
-The bad part: price, heat and noise are really against the new Fermis, the HD 58XX are way more efficient. The GTX 480 isn't better than the 5870 in Warhead and Bad Company 2 and the results in Metro 2033 are very close.
IMO: too much delay for this results. I can live with the price/performance ratio and even with the higer heat, but the noise is a very annoying weak point ant the cost/performance is another.
Im suprised people are comparing it to a 5970 as that card is a Dual Gpu which i thinks a bit unfair, ok it might loose out by a couple of frames here and there to the 5870 but in others it doesnt especially when tessalation is enabled in DX11 it drops 4fps compared to even a 5970 dropping about 10fps and as far as ive read on the forums DX11 is the new "Buzz Word". Still think there waaay to power hungry though especially for a single gpu and SLI'd dear god you'd see the lights flicker lol xD but performance in SLI is rather tempting even if it would cost £780 in the UK for sli. Might sell my two 260's and get a 480 seems about the same performance better in some and with DX11
A dual GPU that consumes less power, generates less heat and is potentially cheaper? I think it's all fair game here. Now, I wonder when that Sapphire 5970 4GB's benchmarks will be out. Normal 5970 uses a 5870 and 5770 for dual GPU I think, that Sapphire monster uses dual 5870 and has some huge fans all over the card.Im suprised people are comparing it to a 5970 as that card is a Dual Gpu which i thinks a bit unfair, ok it might loose out by a couple of frames here and there to the 5870 but in others it doesnt especially when tessalation is enabled in DX11 it drops 4fps compared to even a 5970 dropping about 10fps and as far as ive read on the forums DX11 is the new "Buzz Word". Still think there waaay to power hungry though especially for a single gpu and SLI'd dear god you'd see the lights flicker lol xD but performance in SLI is rather tempting even if it would cost £780 in the UK for sli. Might sell my two 260's and get a 480 seems about the same performance better in some and with DX11
hlhmark
Really quite unimpressive. I am no fanboy, but it seems it is not an AMD 2k series fiasco, but a huge let-down.millerlight89
Bingo. Hopefully HD 5800 series prices come down because of this.
[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Really quite unimpressive. I am no fanboy, but it seems it is not an AMD 2k series fiasco, but a huge let-down.shakmaster13
Bingo. Hopefully HD 5800 series prices come down because of this.
Well... if the GTX4 series offers no competition against ATi cards. ATi does not need to lower their price AT ALL to keep their cards advantageous in the market. Of course.. if they want to mess with nvidia's sales they might do that, which in itself is more of an nvidia tactic.I believe the performance is very good. But to me, its a fail because of all the heat, power and noise it consumes/makes. If something is gonna come out so long after the competition i would normally expect it to because it will be more efficient or its cuz of manufactorin problems, and it seems the latter was the truth. Im not surprised, it was pretty obvious that this was going to happen with all the rumors, but i guess i still had hope.
Is there any benchmarks with this being compared to a 5870 overclocked to the max or same temps?
[QUOTE="shakmaster13"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]Really quite unimpressive. I am no fanboy, but it seems it is not an AMD 2k series fiasco, but a huge let-down.GhoX
Bingo. Hopefully HD 5800 series prices come down because of this.
Well... if the GTX4 series offers no competition against ATi cards. ATi does not need to lower their price AT ALL to keep their cards advantageous in the market. Of course.. if they want to mess with nvidia's sales they might do that, which in itself is more of an nvidia tactic.I think AMD/ATI has learned the hard way that having the top of the line hardware won't decide whether or not you do well as a business. Intel made way more money on the pentium 4's than AMD on the athlon 64's, and NVIDIA made a lot more money on the geforce 7000 series than ATI with its x1000 series.
That said, I really really hope graphics cards get cheap again. This past year has been amazing in price/performance. I would not want to ruin that and go back to the days of $800 graphics cards.
I think one word springs to mind when I see these results. And that's "meh"..
Not bad results. but not good either. Just average. Maybe if Fermi ran cooler and used less temps I would be more inclined to move from my two 5770s to 480. But these 5770s run at 30c idle, 60c full load. use 100 watts less. They're at 5870 performance in a lot of games, and cost about 200$ less than 480. Fermi 480 is about 10-15% better than 5870. but some games it's even trading blows with 5870.
There's really no urge to switch to Nvidia at all with these results. And that will be Nvidia's downfall. They took too long. Six months late to show up to the party. 11 rounds with ATI, and for the first 10 rounds they didn't even throw a punch at all. The 11th round was their chance for a knock out and they failed.if i was going to upgrade to anything now it would definitely be 5970+ or nothing.
yeah i dont really think ill be getting a gtx4 series card, ill wait for ati's new and improved models, or just wait till the hd6 series all together, i have enough games to play now that my 8800gt's handle very well actually.
heat/power are factoring into my next gpu purchase, as well as size and performance/price. so far, nothing meets it yet. (not when i have some music composing programs to buy soon)
good god throw it in sli it perfroms drastically better than i thought. it leabes the dual gpu monster 5970 in the dust.
can wait for the frivers to mature, it gives me chills thinking about it
lol fail. I'd certianly hope it beats a 5870, but it doesn't come close to the 5970. It runs like an oven too...
JigglyWiggly_
why are people comparing a single gpu card to dual card, of course a single gpu wont outperfrom 2 gpu's weres the logic in this
It gives you chills? This is not really what Nvidia was hopping. These cards may be a tad faster, but its negatives outweigh the positives.good god throw it in sli it perfroms drastically better than i thought. it leabes the dual gpu monster 5970 in the dust.
can wait for the frivers to mature, it gives me chills thinking about it
nofriekinlemons
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