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#51 Super-Trooper
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Bleh

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#52 mhofever
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Bleh.

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Nice logo! I really need to rake up some cash to get better logos and add more layers for my one.

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#53 Malta_1980
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i have to say so far the sp campaign is great, but i was disappointed when it comes to visuals & AI... Does it have something to do with my GPU? i think its more than enough to handle this game.. (btw i do have all visual settings set at max)

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#54 psn8214
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i have to say so far the sp campaign is great, but i was disappointed when it comes to visuals & AI... Does it have something to do with my GPU? i think its more than enough to handle this game.. (btw i do have all visual settings set at max)

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It looks waaaay better than MW2 maxed, that's for sure. :P

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#55 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

i have to say so far the sp campaign is great, but i was disappointed when it comes to visuals & AI... Does it have something to do with my GPU? i think its more than enough to handle this game.. (btw i do have all visual settings set at max)

psn8214

It looks waaaay better than MW2 maxed, that's for sure. :P

Finally, someone that agrees with me. I think Black Ops looks fantastic. Super detailed level designs.. gritty.. just the way I like it.
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#56 Baranga
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The customisation is awesome.

It's a bit of a shame that the MP is not as gritty and violent as WaW... and that the dogs are now a 11 killstreak. I love the dogs. I can't understand why people hate them in WaW.

The RC car is extremely fun and almost makes up for the lack of dogs:P

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#57 mhofever
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RC cars and explosive tip arrows. A recipe of fun!

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#58 Ondoval
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I feel the game too slow for my tastes, but still will play until unlock all the stuff.

The player movement is sluggish, the sprint fades really fast ant the fall damage encourages you to not use shortcuts in your displacements; this, and the fat that all weapons kill in 1-3 shots (almost insta-kills) encourages players to camp, and once the people unlock the claymores there is not reason to move your back from the wall and search to figure what the hell is out there. Recharging, throwing grenades and aiming -even with iron sights- are also slow, so is not a surprise that most of people just hide behind a cover and calmly waits their next casualties.

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#59 Baranga
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Buy reloading and sprint perks:P

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#60 Daytona_178
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****, its £40 on steam. Oh well, I guess I will my moneys worth out of it. I think I will buy it this weekend when I get some time.

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#61 Ondoval
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Buy reloading and sprint perks:P

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I did. The fast reload perk and the duct taped dual magazines attachment works, but the sprinter perks ads nothing to the pace, too bit to count, and changes nothing about the people predisposition to snipe. Is like a landscape of snipers and claymores what is displayed behind my eyes.

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#62 kozzy1234
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I feel the game too slow for my tastes, but still will play until unlock all the stuff.

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Wierd, this is one reason why I like it, its slower paced which makes it somewhat more strategic then the last few cod games.

Modern Warfare2 felt like I had to have ADD to enjoy it, this one though just seems perfectly paced in teh online department for my personal taste. I mean sure its not ARMA2 level of slow or realistic, but its a hue step up imo frmo MW2. Also I dont notice anymore sniping or claymores then there was in MW2 or COD4. I mean sure its got the COD feel to it, but it just feels much mroe suited to my liking now. I dont like super fast shooters unless its quake or unreal to be honest.

Can't seem to get enough of Hardcore Search n Destroy and Capture the flag on some of these maps, just awesome.

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#63 Levrar
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One thing I've noticed is that lots of the maps feel like reskinned Modern Warefare maps. One of them might as well be called Strike, and Launch feels similar to Ambush.
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#64 UnrealDelusion
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For the people experiencing lag in the MP of BO this can be fixed by yourself until there is patch.

To get rid of the lag go to settings in STEAm, then INGAME and there disable steam community.

If you have done this the lag still isn't gone completely but at least it's playable until treyarch comes with a fix :)

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#65 Magluf
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Everybody is saying this game is just a MW2 with new clothes... I'm about to buy it, what you guys think?
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#66 MyopicCanadian
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Wow.. check the gamespot video review, specifically 3:38.http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/callofduty7workingtitle/video/6283819/call-of-duty-black-ops-video-review?tag=summary;watch-review

You know that's PC footage right, there LOL. And the game still gets a 9.0!

Everybody is saying this game is just a MW2 with new clothes... I'm about to buy it, what you guys think?Magluf
Wait until it's fixed or buy it on console..

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Everybody is saying this game is just a MW2 with new clothes... I'm about to buy it, what you guys think?Magluf

Well I hated Modern Warfare2 and I am having a blast with Black Ops.

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#68 kozzy1234
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Tried the game on 5 computers so far.... only the two dual core systems seem to have the stuttering, could be coincidence donno. Will be interesting to see why some are having issues and others not.

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A couple of questions: what is the highest level you can reach, 55? And once you reach the top, you must change to prestige rank and lost your unlocks or you can avoid the change to prestige? I'll not keep playing once max the initial career if I lose all my stuff, seems stupid.

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#70 Baranga
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A couple of questions: what is the highest level you can reach, 55? And once you reach the top, you must change to prestige rank and lost your unlocks or you can avoid the change to prestige? I'll not keep playing once max the initial career if I lose all my stuff, seems stupid.

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Max level is 50. Prestige is an option. There are 15 prestige levels. Everything except the emblems is reset, but you gain new custom cIass slots, leaderboards, playlists, tatoos, tags and - most importantly - golden camouflage!

I enjoy leveling up and buying stuff, so I'll prestige a couple of times for sure.

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#71 psn8214
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I'm prestiging for the golden guns, for sure. :D

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[QUOTE="Magluf"]Everybody is saying this game is just a MW2 with new clothes... I'm about to buy it, what you guys think?kozzy1234

Well I hated Modern Warfare2 and I am having a blast with Black Ops.

I loved MW2 and I love this game, so I guess it's a game for everyone!

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#73 mhofever
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I'm spending way too much time and money on my player card rather than my weapons,attachments and perks XD.

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#74 Ondoval
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[QUOTE="Ondoval"]

A couple of questions: what is the highest level you can reach, 55? And once you reach the top, you must change to prestige rank and lost your unlocks or you can avoid the change to prestige? I'll not keep playing once max the initial career if I lose all my stuff, seems stupid.

Baranga

Max level is 50. Prestige is an option. There are 15 prestige levels. Everything except the emblems is reset, but you gain new custom cIass slots, leaderboards, playlists, tatoos, tags and - most importantly - golden camouflage!

I enjoy leveling up and buying stuff, so I'll prestige a couple of times for sure.

Thanx for the answer, I'll burn myself bonzo-style before using a golden weapon in a "supposedly realistic" shooter. So my career ends at level 50.

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#75 DudeNtheRoom
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Anyone want to explain to me why Black Ops is $60? PC games are suppose to be cheaper due to the fact that companies don't have to pay to put thier game on a certain platform.

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#76 Baranga
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Thanx for the answer, I'll burn myself bonzo-style before using a golden weapon in a "supposedly realistic" shooter. So my career ends at level 50.

Ondoval

I played Army of Two and spent all my money on gold plating, a gold shield attachment for my machinegun and a gold shotgun. Which was attached to my machinegun. And I also bought a gold rocket launcher, which may or may not be diamond-encrusted.

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#77 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Ondoval"]

Thanx for the answer, I'll burn myself bonzo-style before using a golden weapon in a "supposedly realistic" shooter. So my career ends at level 50.

Baranga

I played Army of Two and spent all my money on gold plating, a gold shield attachment for my machinegun and a gold shotgun. Which was attached to my machinegun. And I also bought a gold rocket launcher, which may or may not be diamond-encrusted.

Reminds me of the Goldeneye 64 "golden" gun days. Good times, good times.
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#78 deactivated-5d0e4d67d0988
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I really hope that they fix the stuttering issues on PC soon. I tried some of the console fixes, and they worked a bit but I still have the problems of lining a guy up in my sights, about to fire, then FREEZE, then I'm dead. At least it is playable, had a couple of good rounds yesterday. I think I will stick to zombie mode until a fix is out though. I have no problems there and it's fun as.

For the people experiencing lag in the MP of BO this can be fixed by yourself until there is patch.

To get rid of the lag go to settings in STEAm, then INGAME and there disable steam community.

If you have done this the lag still isn't gone completely but at least it's playable until treyarch comes with a fix :)

UnrealDelusion

Ah I forgot about this lol. Will have to try it.

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#79 Elann2008
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Looks like these frame rate and stuttering issues differ from PC to PC. I am getting stuttering in multiplayer or lag, but not with single player. The first time I tried joining a match in Zombie Mode, it froze and I had to shut down Black Ops. I couldn't even shut it down properly actually, even using Device Manager. At the moment, I'm still working on the campaign so the MP isn't my major concern. I expect a patch to fix all the issues concerning SP and MP though. I can't believe they didn't notice the stuttering. Or more like, they did notice it but, deadlines..heh. Still a great SP experience though. I'm loving it.
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Looks like these frame rate and stuttering issues differ from PC to PC. I am getting stuttering in multiplayer or lag, but not with single player. The first time I tried joining a match in Zombie Mode, it froze and I had to shut down Black Ops. I couldn't even shut it down properly actually, even using Device Manager. At the moment, I'm still working on the campaign so the MP isn't my major concern. I expect a patch to fix all the issues concerning SP and MP though. I can't believe they didn't notice the stuttering. Or more like, they did notice it but, deadlines..heh. Still a great SP experience though. I'm loving it.Elann2008

This is what happens when you have fail in house beta testing for PC games as not all PCs are the same. If they had a closed beta at the least, there would have been a wide variety of machines running it so these problems could have been noticed before release. I'm not to sure what the problem is. Some people are saying that it's gameservers.com and having a rate of 5k instead of 25k. Other things I see is that it is some kind of memory leak/game bug that is causing this so can only be fixed by treyarch. Will have to wait and see. Hopefully I won't be waiting long.

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#81 Magluf
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="Magluf"]Everybody is saying this game is just a MW2 with new clothes... I'm about to buy it, what you guys think?Johnny_Rock

Well I hated Modern Warfare2 and I am having a blast with Black Ops.

I loved MW2 and I love this game, so I guess it's a game for everyone!

I had a blast with all CoD games... This can't be a let down! =D
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#82 Magluf
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Wait until it's fixed or buy it on console..

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Why? What's wrong with the retail?
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#83 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]

Wait until it's fixed or buy it on console..

Magluf
Why? What's wrong with the retail?

Oh, so just the steam version is having Issues? I may go get a hard copy then.
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#84 brandojones
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Is there any way (in-game or through Nvidia control panel) to change the contrast in the game? I think it would look better if it was a little higher.

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Sooo what's the general consensus on this game? Does it make up for MW2?

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#86 MyopicCanadian
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[QUOTE="Magluf"]Why? What's wrong with the retail?Advid-Gamer
Oh, so just the steam version is having Issues? I may go get a hard copy then.

No no, a lot of people are having serious stuttering and lag issues. The game runs like absolute garbage for a lot of people. Here's JD_2020's (Activision community manager) response on the matter thus far:

@Glazzkak Whoa whoa.... It's been a little more than 1 day, how can we be ignoring players after just one day? #CeaseFreakingOut

So you can tell it's really high priority when he makes light of it with twitter tags.

Sooo what's the general consensus on this game? Does it make up for MW2?

poseidonwest

I was actually hoping this was pretty much going to be MW2 but with tons of new stuff and dedicated servers. It feels VERY different from MW2, and I'm not sure I really like it. CoD games have always had really amazing gunplay, including Treyarch's last effort, but this... eh. Also I can't judge it properly right now since the game doesn't exactly run smooth at all.

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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="Magluf"] Oh, so just the steam version is having Issues? I may go get a hard copy then.MyopicCanadian

No no, a lot of people are having serious stuttering and lag issues. The game runs like absolute garbage for a lot of people. Here's JD_2020's (Activision community manager) response on the matter thus far:

@Glazzkak Whoa whoa.... It's been a little more than 1 day, how can we be ignoring players after just one day? #CeaseFreakingOut

So you can tell it's really high priority when he makes light of it with twitter tags.

Sooo what's the general consensus on this game? Does it make up for MW2?

poseidonwest

I was actually hoping this was pretty much going to be MW2 but with tons of new stuff and dedicated servers. It feels VERY different from MW2, and I'm not sure I really like it. CoD games have always had really amazing gunplay, including Treyarch's last effort, but this... eh. Also I can't judge it properly right now since the game doesn't exactly run smooth at all.

I actually cannot run the multiplayer or Black Ops due to the intense stuttering and frames per second lag. I have everything set to the bare minimum and ,tThe game is maxing my Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 4.2Ghz...which totally does not make sense. Whereas the Single Player runs at well over 100FPS consistently, with no drops in performance, everything maxed graphically. 4xAA and 8xAF. Black Ops multiplayer for me runs far worse than Crysis and Crysis Warhead - those were actually completely playable - this however, is totally not. If Treyarch doesn't think this is a problem, then :evil:
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#88 Godofnerdyness
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[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

No no, a lot of people are having serious stuttering and lag issues. The game runs like absolute garbage for a lot of people. Here's JD_2020's (Activision community manager) response on the matter thus far:

@Glazzkak Whoa whoa.... It's been a little more than 1 day, how can we be ignoring players after just one day? #CeaseFreakingOut

So you can tell it's really high priority when he makes light of it with twitter tags.

[QUOTE="poseidonwest"]

Sooo what's the general consensus on this game? Does it make up for MW2?

-CheeseEater-

I was actually hoping this was pretty much going to be MW2 but with tons of new stuff and dedicated servers. It feels VERY different from MW2, and I'm not sure I really like it. CoD games have always had really amazing gunplay, including Treyarch's last effort, but this... eh. Also I can't judge it properly right now since the game doesn't exactly run smooth at all.

I actually cannot run the multiplayer or Black Ops due to the intense stuttering and frames per second lag. I have everything set to the bare minimum and ,tThe game is maxing my Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 4.2Ghz...which totally does not make sense. Whereas the Single Player runs at well over 100FPS consistently, with no drops in performance, everything maxed graphically. 4xAA and 8xAF. Black Ops multiplayer for me runs far worse than Crysis and Crysis Warhead - those were actually completely playable - this however, is totally not. If Treyarch doesn't think this is a problem, then :evil:

Most people I know are having no trouble. Treyarch said they're working ona patch though, right? I heard they were trying to fix this ASAP.

Also, I think this is much better than MW2. By far. In my opinion, success!

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#89 MyopicCanadian
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It's playable for me, but still annoying. Make sure you turn off Steam Cloud, and edit these parts of the config:

r_multiGpu 0

r_multithreaded_device 1

For a single GPU and multicore CPU system respectively. Also you can try

/cl_maxpackets "100"

My friend and I have the game running ok.. far from ideal but it works. Another friend of ours supposedly had no issues. It's so strange.

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#90 Johnny_Rock
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[QUOTE="Magluf"][QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]

Wait until it's fixed or buy it on console..

Advid-Gamer

Why? What's wrong with the retail?

Oh, so just the steam version is having Issues? I may go get a hard copy then.

My Steam version works just fine. But, of course, I know that's not the way for everyone, but as you can see, my system is not top of the line by any standards!

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#91 psn8214
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I'm still at a loss as to why you are all having these issues - I have yet to experience anything. The game runs great for me, over 60 FPS at all times. Hopefully Treyarch gets a fix out soon. :(

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#92 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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I went ahead and got the steam version, it is almost done downloading now, I sure it will get patched, I have halo reach MP I am playing ATM, so I dont care if all I can play is SP right now. Cod4 pc still had a ton of players when I was playing 2 months ago, I hope this will be the same on PC as well.

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I am getting really bad FPS, If I turn everything up, or turn everything down it is the same goes from 80 down to 15 looking around. i should have done more research. E8400 3.2 ghz, gtx285 ocx and 4 gigs ram vista 64, the game runs worse then crysis and dosent look as good :|

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I'm stuck in the Vietnam mission, it tells me to mash F to fight some guy off me but I can't (I'm even using a pen).
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#95 demineonz
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I'm excited to play black ops, didnt buy it yet but am considering it
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Seems they released a server side fix that has improved some of the lag on the servers. Still hasn't really helped me all that much. Hopefully the patch that fixes the stuttering will be out soon.

In the meantime I will play some zombies or Zork (I'm hoping there are maybe some more easter egg/mini games hidden around the place).

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#97 psn8214
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Hey guys, just thought some of you would like to know that a patch is on the way! Details soon, apparently.

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#98 with_teeth26
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Hey guys, just thought some of you would like to know that a patch is on the way! Details soon, apparently.

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thats good news. Hopefully it addresses the performance issues on the PC version. Just got the game installed and it stutters terribly in SP and a bit in MP. No rush to play it though, game isn't going anywhere.

I remember when I got WaW it didn't even start until I had done a bunch of stuff.

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I know a fix will come for this game, but right it is unplayable. I refuse to play a game that jumps from 80 fps to 17 fps just by turning in a circle, ) **** GS any of you who think they are not bought off by big name companys and games, Cod series is one of the biggers, you are crazy. They docked NV for bugs well, at least it was playable. Dont for a sec try and say it my comp, do a quick search, there are people with quad core, gtx 480, 6 gis or ram rigs having the same problems, and to top it off, with everything turned all the way up the game dosent even look that good, should have got the 360 version. *kicks self in own ass*

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#100 MyopicCanadian
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Hey guys, just thought some of you would like to know that a patch is on the way! Details soon, apparently.

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That's just a generic message, of course there will be patches. And with a mocking tag associated with it as well. The game is still freakin awesome, I just wish it would run right. I have the G11 unlocked now... LOVE THIS GUN.