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#101 chris215
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i hope so..
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#102 shuriken_ninja
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if enery one invented it every one would have it ang right thats not goin to happen.
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#103 tpoccu
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The problem with answering this question is that the question can be taken to mean more than one thing. The first possibility is a comparison between the processing abilities of the ps3 and the processing ability of your brain without taking into consideration any particular function. In terms of total number of calculations per second the brain is a far more capable system. One must take into consideration that the brain must be able to govern all of the body's functions while also receiving input, and on top of that it renders what we refer to as mind. Here is where the question may get somewhat tricky. The brain is far more capable in terms of operations per second. However, there is another side to the question which must be considered. If one were to consider the ps3's ability to calculate something like cross products, for example, to our ability to do that same operation using our minds, then we would find ourselves outdone by a wide margin. However, it is not logical to make this comparison. One could form an analogy between our tools for sensory perception (eyes, nose, ears, skin) and the controller, usb ports, and blu-ray drive on the ps3. Using these terms, it would make much more sense to consider our minds as analogous to a game on the ps3. If one were to look at the brain as a game console, then the world it renders (game) is the mind. What we perceive with our mind is what we consider to be reality, which has an endless amount of detail. Using this guideline it is evident that any game the ps3 could produce is by far an inferior experience to that of our minds.
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#104 plavo
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[QUOTE="Sgt_Phan"]wat tha hell hahahahahhahaaaaa.... u stupid if the PS3 are smarter how the hell we human invented a PS3Gzus666
youre a good spokesperson for all of human kind, please bless us with your wisdom

HAHA. Nice, lol.
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#105 Gzus666
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"]you couldnt use all your brain, cause you would have a seizure, i linked that too. the portions of your brain needed for a particular task are used, it would be silly for your brain not to. we may have more knowledge than the PS3, but only because of a lack of self contained AI. given time, computers will have self contained AI and learning(they already can make decisions with AI, even in non logical situations, its called fuzzy logic, its been around for a while now)and they will surpass us. its just how it will happen, its impossible to deny if you have any thought behind your answer. and for the cute flops comparison of the brain, lets remember that at least half of the brain is not used for calculations of thought at all, most of it being used for involuntary actions, artistic thoughts, sensory reception, etc. its rather pitiful how much you people try to act like your smarter than it just cause of what its made of. how many of you can cleanly run a game at 1080P 60fps? none? thought so, not so fun when someone uses those same BS examples the other way huh. it will be some time before robots can out think us, but it will come.Acidrain1988
i agree, first you need to define by what you mean by smarter. i do think computers will get smarter and smarter and even tho AI could get very smart, i dont think anything will ever equal a human brain unless it is made from biological compnents. like no matter how smart a computer is it will never be aware of its on mortality because it dosnt have one, so there we cant be equal, that also cant be measured in illteligence

so, you define intelligence as being self aware? rather odd, since the scientific community considers intelligence as your ability to problem solve, complete patterns, etc. (ie: IQ test).since computers are being used all the time to problem solve, because we just arent able to crunch the numbers they can, its a matter of adding more advanced AI to the point to where they can figure everything out on their own, and take the next logical step. they may not innovate, but they sure as hell will be smarter. but honestly, innovation can only get you so far, they always use computers to do the number crunching, cause we just dont have the ability to do it effectively like computers. also, if you want to get technical again, computers wouldnt have a mortality, because they wont die. the meaning of mortality is the state of being subject to death, which they will never fall into, unless of course threatened by an outside source. survival instincts will come naturally with AI, because its logical to try to survive, god people are full of themselves as a race.
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#106 SOHAIB_MINHAS
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well its computer could know stuff we dont.shuriken_ninja


Actually it knows nothing. Whatever information is stored on it doesn't become knowledge till it is understood and because it can't understand the information that's stored on it itself it, therefore, knows nothing so we know more then it does.

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#107 AIH_PSP
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I heard the PS3 is equivalent to 1% of our brain power. And PS5 (if there is one) will be 100% of our brain power.
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#108 AIH_PSP
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wow r u guys genuses?shuriken_ninja
Nope, your just stupid
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#109 Gzus666
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I heard the PS3 is equivalent to 1% of our brain power. And PS5 (if there is one) will be 100% of our brain power.AIH_PSP
the problem is, the way they compute "brain power" is theoretical. they take into account how much one cell can do, and just multiply it out by how many cells you have. the problem with this is, you cant use it all or you would die, for a few reasons. 1: a lot of your brain is used for sensory inputs, involuntary actions(like breathing, and your heart beating) emotion, etc., this means these portions will NEVER be used for computation, and cannot be factored into the equation. 2: the amount of energy it would take for your brain to fire everything at once would kill you, because of the seizures it would induce, and also the large amount of energy it would take from your body would kill the rest of your body. 3: FLOPS are not a accurate depiction of how well something computes, its just a theoretical maximum. read up on FLOPS and you will see they are only used to basically set a benchmark. other than that, they have no real meaning. so, in conclusion, your brain pales in comparison to a supercomputer, and is only slightly more powerful, theoretically of course, to a PS3. raw computational power, computers win. as for free thought, humans do win...for now, but how much longer? probably not much more than a decade or two :)
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#110 jayo17ie
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What kinda freak are you to ask a dumb question like that , get a life weirdo

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#111 CyanX73
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how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?shuriken_ninja
I can't believe so many of you replied to this post.
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#112 comissario
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[QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :DGzus666
where did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information

please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless
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#113 comissario
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[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="shuriken_ninja"]how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?Gzus666
everyone is smarter than the ps3 ok. if humans invent something it means they're smarter than the thing they invented ok. i guess ur the only human dummer than the ps3 excluding the mentally ill (no offense to them)

logically, with the advent of AI, and the natural progression of it, computers could eventually become smarter. with their large data capacity, and the ability to process faster than we could ever dream, they could technically use the AI we give it to learn and become smarter. this was actually a fear of some of the advanced minds on a special they did on discovery channel. creepy huh?

hey if a computer than a human than how can we make computers? computers can't make themselves.
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#114 Gzus666
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :Dcomissario
where did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information

please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless

just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years.
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#115 comissario
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[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="shuriken_ninja"]how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?blitzinger123
everyone is smarter than the ps3 ok. if humans invent something it means they're smarter than the thing they invented ok. i guess ur the only human dummer than the ps3 excluding the mentally ill (no offense to them)

The ps3 can make 1.8 billion calculations per second. How about you?

a human brain can make more than a trillion calculations per second. how about you? oh you must be one of those newly developed cyborgs. i understand in that case
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#116 comissario
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[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="shuriken_ninja"]how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?dan_brouwer
everyone is smarter than the ps3 ok. if humans invent something it means they're smarter than the thing they invented ok. i guess ur the only human dummer than the ps3 excluding the mentally ill (no offense to them)

"Humans invented the ps3". Yes, but how many humans would really be able to stream through thousands of lines of code in their minds? This question reminded me of the fact that the world's best chess player was recently beat by a computer. Just because we made computers does NOT mean we are smarter than them...

hey boy have u ever heard of a qoute "what goes around comes around". our intelligence goes into making that stuff and then that intelligence is used.
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[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="shuriken_ninja"]how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?oh_its_on
everyone is smarter than the ps3 ok. if humans invent something it means they're smarter than the thing they invented ok. i guess ur the only human dummer than the ps3 excluding the mentally ill (no offense to them)

yeah but not evryone in the world invented the ps3, if sumone stuk u down with a hole heap of stuff i doubt you could invnt one, although saying that i still think his is a stupid pointles question, damn teenagers and there drugs

if i studied egineering a surely could make a ps3. i want you to prove to me that the ps3 is very intelligente by sending me a video of a machine with the same processor as the ps3 making one without any human aid than i'll believe you.
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#118 comissario
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[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :DGzus666
where did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information

please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless

just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years.

look the problem is our brain is used for many functions not all for memory and smartness. i can't see a processor like the ps3's one running all our organs.
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[QUOTE="oh_its_on"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="shuriken_ninja"]how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?comissario
everyone is smarter than the ps3 ok. if humans invent something it means they're smarter than the thing they invented ok. i guess ur the only human dummer than the ps3 excluding the mentally ill (no offense to them)

yeah but not evryone in the world invented the ps3, if sumone stuk u down with a hole heap of stuff i doubt you could invnt one, although saying that i still think his is a stupid pointles question, damn teenagers and there drugs

if i studied egineering a surely could make a ps3. i want you to prove to me that the ps3 is very intelligente by sending me a video of a machine with the same processor as the ps3 making one without any human aid than i'll believe you.

you may be able to make a PS3 now, but could you have designed the cell by yourself, even with an engineering degree? i think not, there was groups of engineers from all over the world involved, 3 HUGE companies, and you guessed it, lots of computers crunching numbers. face it, if computers werent there, we couldnt progress any further at the rate we are. we might not even be able to progress at all without them. with the advent of a refined AI that actually can make its own decisions, they will progress on their own.
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#120 comissario
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[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :DGzus666
where did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information

please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless

just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years.



show me video evidence of a supercomputer controlling all of our bodily functions then i'll believe that supercomputers out process humans
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#121 LoboSolo
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My PS3 pwns me!
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#122 Gzus666
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :Dcomissario
where did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information

please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless

just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years.



show me video evidence of a supercomputer controlling all of our bodily functions then i'll believe that supercomputers out process humans

how is that complicated? there would be no reason for it, and since they use simple machines to control hearts (pace makers) lungs(breathing machines) its a simple electronic impulse to make the muscle contract. you seem to overrate the human body. they have made an artificial stomach that can digest. all these things will easily be reproduced. but why would a computer need to do this? there is no reason, it could be done with the correct programming, as computers can do more than us on a computational level. how many humans can run modern jets by themselves? most of the functions are computer controlled, with the basic things a human input, but can be easily controlled by computers. you make a simple argument, and a silly comparison. when it comes down to it, we are talking about intelligence, and computers will beat us.
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[QUOTE="shuriken_ninja"]how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?comissario
everyone is smarter than the ps3 ok. if humans invent something it means they're smarter than the thing they invented ok. i guess ur the only human dummer than the ps3 excluding the mentally ill (no offense to them)

have u ever seen the terminator :o

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#124 comissario
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[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :DGzus666
where did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information

please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless

just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years.



show me video evidence of a supercomputer controlling all of our bodily functions then i'll believe that supercomputers out process humans

how is that complicated? there would be no reason for it, and since they use simple machines to control hearts (pace makers) lungs(breathing machines) its a simple electronic impulse to make the muscle contract. you seem to overrate the human body. they have made an artificial stomach that can digest. all these things will easily be reproduced. but why would a computer need to do this? there is no reason, it could be done with the correct programming, as computers can do more than us on a computational level. how many humans can run modern jets by themselves? most of the functions are computer controlled, with the basic things a human input, but can be easily controlled by computers. you make a simple argument, and a silly comparison. when it comes down to it, we are talking about intelligence, and computers will beat us.

ok smarty (or maybe not) pants i wanna see you substitute your brain for a super computer and let's see if you're gonna be very smart. why are some scientists considering uusing dna to power super computers (atlhough not possible yet), because there isn't anything better than a human. i guess you are one of those ignorant people, maybe a brit? well americans can be ignorant too.
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First off all, Brits AND Americans are ignorants :lol: I think the people that invented PS3 are smarter than PS3. We are more stupid than PS3.
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :Dcomissario
where did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information

please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless

just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years.



show me video evidence of a supercomputer controlling all of our bodily functions then i'll believe that supercomputers out process humans

how is that complicated? there would be no reason for it, and since they use simple machines to control hearts (pace makers) lungs(breathing machines) its a simple electronic impulse to make the muscle contract. you seem to overrate the human body. they have made an artificial stomach that can digest. all these things will easily be reproduced. but why would a computer need to do this? there is no reason, it could be done with the correct programming, as computers can do more than us on a computational level. how many humans can run modern jets by themselves? most of the functions are computer controlled, with the basic things a human input, but can be easily controlled by computers. you make a simple argument, and a silly comparison. when it comes down to it, we are talking about intelligence, and computers will beat us.

ok smarty (or maybe not) pants i wanna see you substitute your brain for a super computer and let's see if you're gonna be very smart. why are some scientists considering uusing dna to power super computers (atlhough not possible yet), because there isn't anything better than a human. i guess you are one of those ignorant people, maybe a brit? well americans can be ignorant too.

not sure where you get the DNA powered super computers, would love to see that in writing. at this point, you couldnt directly throw in a computer, cause like i said, they are still working on proper AI. AI will eventually get to the point where it can make logical decisions for every situation on the fly. they already have a primitive version called fuzzy logic. it has been used for years for computers to make decisions. computers can run any organ in the body, and you know that for a fact, cause they do it all the time to keep people alive. running the body doesnt mean we are intelligent, just means designed for life, rather than pure thought. computers on the other hand wont suffer from emotion, and body functions to really worry about, so it can be all dedicated to thought. you keep telling me to do things that are currently not really possible, i never stated it is going to happen tomorrow, but it will eventually. everyone seems to say since computers were designed by us, we have to be smarter, but you were designed by nature and evolution, and im pretty sure we are smarther than the general idea of nature as we know it. you have to teach children, otherwise they will just be a simple creature, children have to be taught the combined knowledge of an entire civilization, which would have to be done with the computer also. but clearly they can do this better, because computers have long since surpassed our storage capacities, and computational is debatable to a point, but they will eventually pass us for sure. remember just 20 years ago, computers were almost retarded by comparison, thats quite a quick progression, much faster than our evolutionary process will ever begin to be.
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As Smart as the cell is and stuff..its not amazingly smart....It cant turn itself on :P
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#128 speedjunkie1992
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a gun is only as deadly as the man holding it. So, the PS3 is smart but not as smart as us obviously. What a stupid question! how the hell is a console gonna be smarter than a human in these days of living? Sure maybe in the future there will be things smarter than us but only because they have been built and taught by us. If the PS3 was smarter than a human being, wouldnt the world be engulfed in havoc because they are taking over? Watch out for its blu-ray!!!
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that would be cool.
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[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :DGzus666
where did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information

please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless

just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years.



show me video evidence of a supercomputer controlling all of our bodily functions then i'll believe that supercomputers out process humans

how is that complicated? there would be no reason for it, and since they use simple machines to control hearts (pace makers) lungs(breathing machines) its a simple electronic impulse to make the muscle contract. you seem to overrate the human body. they have made an artificial stomach that can digest. all these things will easily be reproduced. but why would a computer need to do this? there is no reason, it could be done with the correct programming, as computers can do more than us on a computational level. how many humans can run modern jets by themselves? most of the functions are computer controlled, with the basic things a human input, but can be easily controlled by computers. you make a simple argument, and a silly comparison. when it comes down to it, we are talking about intelligence, and computers will beat us.

you watch too many movies man computers will soon control us...

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i think i got a dumb ps3.. I asked it wat 2 times 2 was and it just sat there.. doing nothing... so i smacked it with the belt and put a math book in front of it. Its got 2 hours to learn the sums before i get of my pc or else..... *dum dum daaa*
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#132 comissario
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[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :DGzus666
where did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information

please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless

just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years.



show me video evidence of a supercomputer controlling all of our bodily functions then i'll believe that supercomputers out process humans

how is that complicated? there would be no reason for it, and since they use simple machines to control hearts (pace makers) lungs(breathing machines) its a simple electronic impulse to make the muscle contract. you seem to overrate the human body. they have made an artificial stomach that can digest. all these things will easily be reproduced. but why would a computer need to do this? there is no reason, it could be done with the correct programming, as computers can do more than us on a computational level. how many humans can run modern jets by themselves? most of the functions are computer controlled, with the basic things a human input, but can be easily controlled by computers. you make a simple argument, and a silly comparison. when it comes down to it, we are talking about intelligence, and computers will beat us.

ok smarty (or maybe not) pants i wanna see you substitute your brain for a super computer and let's see if you're gonna be very smart. why are some scientists considering uusing dna to power super computers (atlhough not possible yet), because there isn't anything better than a human. i guess you are one of those ignorant people, maybe a brit? well americans can be ignorant too.

not sure where you get the DNA powered super computers, would love to see that in writing. at this point, you couldnt directly throw in a computer, cause like i said, they are still working on proper AI. AI will eventually get to the point where it can make logical decisions for every situation on the fly. they already have a primitive version called fuzzy logic. it has been used for years for computers to make decisions. computers can run any organ in the body, and you know that for a fact, cause they do it all the time to keep people alive. running the body doesnt mean we are intelligent, just means designed for life, rather than pure thought. computers on the other hand wont suffer from emotion, and body functions to really worry about, so it can be all dedicated to thought. you keep telling me to do things that are currently not really possible, i never stated it is going to happen tomorrow, but it will eventually. everyone seems to say since computers were designed by us, we have to be smarter, but you were designed by nature and evolution, and im pretty sure we are smarther than the general idea of nature as we know it. you have to teach children, otherwise they will just be a simple creature, children have to be taught the combined knowledge of an entire civilization, which would have to be done with the computer also. but clearly they can do this better, because computers have long since surpassed our storage capacities, and computational is debatable to a point, but they will eventually pass us for sure. remember just 20 years ago, computers were almost retarded by comparison, thats quite a quick progression, much faster than our evolutionary process will ever begin to be.

ok suit yourself. i think we humans are smarter and you've got a different opinion, we shouldn't kill each other over that. but there is one thing i've to say, and that is that if all our brain functions were made into memory the computer would be nothing+ our braindoes calculations much faster than a computer, i bet if we put a computer to replace a brain the computer wouldn't stand a chance of controlling everything. and boy we had to teach computers how to work too or else it would be retarted as you said it was 20 years ago. i need to say that computers make smarter decisions but they aren't smarter than us. no chess player stands a chance of beating a computer because we humans programed it to do smart moves, while a human cannot be programmed. i want you to teach a computer how to talk. this is the link where i got the dna powered computer thing http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/dec99/945138490.Ns.r.html . and i didn't want to tell you things that aren't currently possible but i told you to prove how smart a computer actually is. i ask you a final question. imagine if we humans had no brains how would computers exist? if computers we're smart they would be able to create themselves, a computer is just taught to make things easier and better deccison for humans. the link i gave will show you some valuable information. i bet you couldn't put a robot as a soldier wthout it having help. let's put this to rest. i liked the points you brought up and i hope you liked my points too. very long debate ey, let's quit this.
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#133 comissario
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[QUOTE="The_Tombo"]i think i got a dumb ps3.. I asked it wat 2 times 2 was and it just sat there.. doing nothing... so i smacked it with the belt and put a math book in front of it. Its got 2 hours to learn the sums before i get of my pc or else..... *dum dum daaa*

sweet joke
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#134 UGAH
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how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?shuriken_ninja
mamy! lol
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#135 Password1233456
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Just reading this thread makes me believe that the PS3 is smarter than humans. The grammar, spelling, logic, and arguements contained in this thread are ridiculous. Everyone in here is making a fool of themselves. Eveyone is trying to prove points and counterpoints hoping to hear the words "Touché", even if it involves talking about stuff you do not have any knowledge of. Using Wikipedia as a reliable source...That's funny.
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#136 TheJihadJoe
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whoever believes thier PS3 is smarter than them is a **** idiot. What your saying is the the PS3 has the ability to keep our hear pumping at regular intervals, our lungs breathing, adjusting our body temperature constantly, doing advanced physical movements, hearing things around us, seeing things around us, feeling things around us, processing all those inputs and transferring all to our active consence, processing trillions of our thoughts, and doing way more?? wow........a 600 dollor piece of plastic, aluminium and silicon MUST be better than a multimillion year old adapted, higher intelligence designed carbon based lifefore whose inner workings we are still trying to figure out.....GOOD JOB
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#137 shuriken_ninja
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y r u giys so smart.
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#138 AgentA-Mi6
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[QUOTE="shuriken_ninja"]who in particular?Flame_Blade88
People who bash other systems because they don't like it, they seriously need to get a new hobby :lol:

Agreed 100%
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#139 shuriken_ninja
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well ok then thats agreed 100%
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#140 deactivated-58ea6d14ed786
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Until I see a PS3 grow arms and construct another PS3, then I'm gonna stick with humans.
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#141 ringbling
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It's 'smaRter', and computers can't currently be smarter than people, it's a freakin game machine it only understands code and human input - without that it's just a mass of silicon plastic and some metal.

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#142 cbalas
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what came 1st the PS3 or the Human..................hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!! Now that's a tough one

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#143 afexthedamaja
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hmmm lets see... I can turn on my PS3. Play with it., and turn it off when i'm done with it. The day the PS3 turns me off, is the day the PS3 is smarter then me.
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#144 GameArtGuy
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how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?shuriken_ninja
The ps3 doesnt have intelligence... it processes information... it cant think to solve a problem, it cant form a question, and it cant do anything that shows intelligence. People that think computer "think" are just kinda..scary. The ps3 takes information created by a human, and processes it. The cotton candy machine doesn't create the cotton candy, it processes the ingredients made by a human.
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#145 Krigon
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[QUOTE="dan_brouwer"] This question reminded me of the fact that the world's best chess player was recently beat by a computer. Just because we made computers does NOT mean we are smarter than them...

Gabriel Kasparov :( got beaten by that Super Computer. R.I.P Chess :(
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#146 ragincoley86
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Anyone else here think that being smart is more then calculations. There's logic, morals, compassion, honesty, loyalty, personality and especially what ever that make us humans human. I don't think we would have robots that are female, male, gay straight, different ethnicities, cultured, funny, silly, style, goofy, mean, able to create video games, music, movies, books, tv shows, and anything that makes life good. Can anyone here imagine a robot comedian? How would the bot handle heckler? Could anyone here see a robot growing up in a  **** hole creating a garbage band blowing up to star status?
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#147 GameArtGuy
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[QUOTE="Krigon"][QUOTE="dan_brouwer"] This question reminded me of the fact that the world's best chess player was recently beat by a computer. Just because we made computers does NOT mean we are smarter than them...

Gabriel Kasparov :( got beaten by that Super Computer. R.I.P Chess :(

you realize the moves were programmed by a human... right? They were not thought up on the move, the computer didnt "think". It "thought" in the same way Osimo "thinks" about how to grab a bottle out of someone hands, It has 3 options of approach, depending on where the bottle is at, it will use the most efficient. However, those "actions" were still developed and 'loaded' by a human, who designed the joint, designed the processor, and designed the software. If i think of a way to counter a move in chess, and a computer does it... the computers just processing information I thought of into physical actions
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#148 GameArtGuy
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Anyone else here think that being smart is more then calculations. There's logic, morals, compassion, honesty, loyalty, personality and especially what ever that make us humans human. I don't think we would have robots that are female, male, gay straight, different ethnicities, cultured, funny, silly, style, goofy, mean, able to create video games, music, movies, books, tv shows, and anything that makes life good. Can anyone here imagine a robot comedian? How would the bot handle heckler? Could anyone here see a robot growing up in a **** hole creating a garbage band blowing up to star status?
ragincoley86
I could imagine it.. but only in a Pixar movie with Robin Williams...
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#149 nish14
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how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?shuriken_ninja

wow this is the dumbest question to date...

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#150 Gzus666
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[QUOTE="GameArtGuy"][QUOTE="Krigon"][QUOTE="dan_brouwer"] This question reminded me of the fact that the world's best chess player was recently beat by a computer. Just because we made computers does NOT mean we are smarter than them...

Gabriel Kasparov :( got beaten by that Super Computer. R.I.P Chess :(

you realize the moves were programmed by a human... right? They were not thought up on the move, the computer didnt "think". It "thought" in the same way Osimo "thinks" about how to grab a bottle out of someone hands, It has 3 options of approach, depending on where the bottle is at, it will use the most efficient. However, those "actions" were still developed and 'loaded' by a human, who designed the joint, designed the processor, and designed the software. If i think of a way to counter a move in chess, and a computer does it... the computers just processing information I thought of into physical actions

but still did it better than the best chess player in the world. other peoples argument was that a human can process and calculate better than a computer. it would be almost impossible to program every possible move on a chess board. so most likely what they did, was define the goal, the basic rules, the major play types used, and added AI with fuzzy logic to make decisions as needed. just proves that it can process more, cause if the person who programmed it was that good at chess, guess what, he would be the champion of the world.