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[QUOTE="Gzus666"]you couldnt use all your brain, cause you would have a seizure, i linked that too. the portions of your brain needed for a particular task are used, it would be silly for your brain not to. we may have more knowledge than the PS3, but only because of a lack of self contained AI. given time, computers will have self contained AI and learning(they already can make decisions with AI, even in non logical situations, its called fuzzy logic, its been around for a while now)and they will surpass us. its just how it will happen, its impossible to deny if you have any thought behind your answer. and for the cute flops comparison of the brain, lets remember that at least half of the brain is not used for calculations of thought at all, most of it being used for involuntary actions, artistic thoughts, sensory reception, etc. its rather pitiful how much you people try to act like your smarter than it just cause of what its made of. how many of you can cleanly run a game at 1080P 60fps? none? thought so, not so fun when someone uses those same BS examples the other way huh. it will be some time before robots can out think us, but it will come.Acidrain1988i agree, first you need to define by what you mean by smarter. i do think computers will get smarter and smarter and even tho AI could get very smart, i dont think anything will ever equal a human brain unless it is made from biological compnents. like no matter how smart a computer is it will never be aware of its on mortality because it dosnt have one, so there we cant be equal, that also cant be measured in illteligence so, you define intelligence as being self aware? rather odd, since the scientific community considers intelligence as your ability to problem solve, complete patterns, etc. (ie: IQ test).since computers are being used all the time to problem solve, because we just arent able to crunch the numbers they can, its a matter of adding more advanced AI to the point to where they can figure everything out on their own, and take the next logical step. they may not innovate, but they sure as hell will be smarter. but honestly, innovation can only get you so far, they always use computers to do the number crunching, cause we just dont have the ability to do it effectively like computers. also, if you want to get technical again, computers wouldnt have a mortality, because they wont die. the meaning of mortality is the state of being subject to death, which they will never fall into, unless of course threatened by an outside source. survival instincts will come naturally with AI, because its logical to try to survive, god people are full of themselves as a race.
well its computer could know stuff we dont.shuriken_ninja
I heard the PS3 is equivalent to 1% of our brain power. And PS5 (if there is one) will be 100% of our brain power.AIH_PSPthe problem is, the way they compute "brain power" is theoretical. they take into account how much one cell can do, and just multiply it out by how many cells you have. the problem with this is, you cant use it all or you would die, for a few reasons. 1: a lot of your brain is used for sensory inputs, involuntary actions(like breathing, and your heart beating) emotion, etc., this means these portions will NEVER be used for computation, and cannot be factored into the equation. 2: the amount of energy it would take for your brain to fire everything at once would kill you, because of the seizures it would induce, and also the large amount of energy it would take from your body would kill the rest of your body. 3: FLOPS are not a accurate depiction of how well something computes, its just a theoretical maximum. read up on FLOPS and you will see they are only used to basically set a benchmark. other than that, they have no real meaning. so, in conclusion, your brain pales in comparison to a supercomputer, and is only slightly more powerful, theoretically of course, to a PS3. raw computational power, computers win. as for free thought, humans do win...for now, but how much longer? probably not much more than a decade or two :)
[QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :DGzus666where did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless
[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="shuriken_ninja"]how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?Gzus666everyone is smarter than the ps3 ok. if humans invent something it means they're smarter than the thing they invented ok. i guess ur the only human dummer than the ps3 excluding the mentally ill (no offense to them) logically, with the advent of AI, and the natural progression of it, computers could eventually become smarter. with their large data capacity, and the ability to process faster than we could ever dream, they could technically use the AI we give it to learn and become smarter. this was actually a fear of some of the advanced minds on a special they did on discovery channel. creepy huh? hey if a computer than a human than how can we make computers? computers can't make themselves.
[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :Dcomissariowhere did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years.
[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="shuriken_ninja"]how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?blitzinger123everyone is smarter than the ps3 ok. if humans invent something it means they're smarter than the thing they invented ok. i guess ur the only human dummer than the ps3 excluding the mentally ill (no offense to them) The ps3 can make 1.8 billion calculations per second. How about you? a human brain can make more than a trillion calculations per second. how about you? oh you must be one of those newly developed cyborgs. i understand in that case
[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="shuriken_ninja"]how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?dan_brouwereveryone is smarter than the ps3 ok. if humans invent something it means they're smarter than the thing they invented ok. i guess ur the only human dummer than the ps3 excluding the mentally ill (no offense to them) "Humans invented the ps3". Yes, but how many humans would really be able to stream through thousands of lines of code in their minds? This question reminded me of the fact that the world's best chess player was recently beat by a computer. Just because we made computers does NOT mean we are smarter than them... hey boy have u ever heard of a qoute "what goes around comes around". our intelligence goes into making that stuff and then that intelligence is used.
[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="shuriken_ninja"]how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?oh_its_oneveryone is smarter than the ps3 ok. if humans invent something it means they're smarter than the thing they invented ok. i guess ur the only human dummer than the ps3 excluding the mentally ill (no offense to them) yeah but not evryone in the world invented the ps3, if sumone stuk u down with a hole heap of stuff i doubt you could invnt one, although saying that i still think his is a stupid pointles question, damn teenagers and there drugs if i studied egineering a surely could make a ps3. i want you to prove to me that the ps3 is very intelligente by sending me a video of a machine with the same processor as the ps3 making one without any human aid than i'll believe you.
[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :DGzus666where did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years. look the problem is our brain is used for many functions not all for memory and smartness. i can't see a processor like the ps3's one running all our organs.
[QUOTE="oh_its_on"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="shuriken_ninja"]how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?comissarioeveryone is smarter than the ps3 ok. if humans invent something it means they're smarter than the thing they invented ok. i guess ur the only human dummer than the ps3 excluding the mentally ill (no offense to them) yeah but not evryone in the world invented the ps3, if sumone stuk u down with a hole heap of stuff i doubt you could invnt one, although saying that i still think his is a stupid pointles question, damn teenagers and there drugs if i studied egineering a surely could make a ps3. i want you to prove to me that the ps3 is very intelligente by sending me a video of a machine with the same processor as the ps3 making one without any human aid than i'll believe you. you may be able to make a PS3 now, but could you have designed the cell by yourself, even with an engineering degree? i think not, there was groups of engineers from all over the world involved, 3 HUGE companies, and you guessed it, lots of computers crunching numbers. face it, if computers werent there, we couldnt progress any further at the rate we are. we might not even be able to progress at all without them. with the advent of a refined AI that actually can make its own decisions, they will progress on their own.
[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :DGzus666where did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years.
[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :Dcomissariowhere did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years.
[QUOTE="shuriken_ninja"]how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?comissarioeveryone is smarter than the ps3 ok. if humans invent something it means they're smarter than the thing they invented ok. i guess ur the only human dummer than the ps3 excluding the mentally ill (no offense to them) have u ever seen the terminator :o
[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :DGzus666where did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years.
[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :Dcomissariowhere did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years.
[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :DGzus666where did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years.
you watch too many movies man computers will soon control us...
[QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="comissario"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="vip3r666"]the processing power of the ps3 is 1% that of the human brain. of course, in some cases (george dubya bush) the brain's processing power is .1% that of the ps3's :DGzus666where did you get this stat? computers can out process us by miles, and have a larger capacity for information please go to school. computers can never out process us. if we could put our processing power in a computer, the computer would be almost flawless just like how we are almost flawless? oh wait, we arent. not sure what this has to do with processing, we cant come close. tell me when you can crunch trillions of mathematical equations at a time, and we will talk. supercomputers have been out processing us for years.
[QUOTE="shuriken_ninja"]who in particular?Flame_Blade88People who bash other systems because they don't like it, they seriously need to get a new hobby :lol: Agreed 100%
how mamy of us think were as smart or smater than the ps3?shuriken_ninjaThe ps3 doesnt have intelligence... it processes information... it cant think to solve a problem, it cant form a question, and it cant do anything that shows intelligence. People that think computer "think" are just kinda..scary. The ps3 takes information created by a human, and processes it. The cotton candy machine doesn't create the cotton candy, it processes the ingredients made by a human.
Anyone else here think that being smart is more then calculations. There's logic, morals, compassion, honesty, loyalty, personality and especially what ever that make us humans human. I don't think we would have robots that are female, male, gay straight, different ethnicities, cultured, funny, silly, style, goofy, mean, able to create video games, music, movies, books, tv shows, and anything that makes life good. Can anyone here imagine a robot comedian? How would the bot handle heckler? Could anyone here see a robot growing up in a **** hole creating a garbage band blowing up to star status?I could imagine it.. but only in a Pixar movie with Robin Williams...
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