The Official Final Fantasy XIII Thread (56K Warning)

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#1451 naaros
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Well, part of the "problem" with the story is they throw you into the action with no background. But they did that on purpose because throughout the game, it does flashbacks to the 13 days prior to them being l'Cei. So I just see that as an interesting narrative approach, personally. I was never really all that lost, but then again, I knew a lot about the game before playing, lol.

And about the Hope thing... I really don't know. Some people just hate characters who show ANY emotion and just call them "emo" when they do. Makes no sense to me - do you really want a bunch of emotionless characters? This isn't a shooter! ;/ Those people kinda bug me, lol. Personally, Hope, Fang, and Vanille are my favorite characters. :D

Glad you are enjoying the game overall - it gets even better! I loved it from the very beginning. :)

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#1452 TheEldestGod
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I had no problem with Hope being emotinoal. I just thought that his emotions were a bit underplayed. He's a great character, but there were a few seens where he should have been DRAMATIC instead of just mellowdramatic. All in all he's great, though. Fang, Vanille, and Sazh are my favs.
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#1453 San_09
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Yeah I kinda figured that they would explain the 13 days in flashbacks.... Reminds me of MGS 4 sorta.

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#1454 GamerLauri
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superb!
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#1455 Vivacioussoul
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Can't get Chapter 9 boss music out of my head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTm6Rt-1SXY

Don't know if it's the timpanis or what, but it has just been pounded into my head.

Maybe it's because of how the battle just takes forever.

The music is just perfect for some kind of scene, don't know what it is but some kind of scene in like a movie or something.

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#1456 hazelnutman
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Wow, **** really hits the fan in Chapter 12. Can't wait to finish it this week.
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#1457 Sphire
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Whoa I just realised there's a drama album in the ost called 'Episode Zero'. It's in Japanese, but it'd be nice if it were translated. Seems to be just some extra stuff with the characters, still, would be nice to know what it actually is. I don't think there is an official english version though. Snow's Theme still is my fav though, heh. Also, I'm finding it hard to get back into the game. I've done maybe 5 hours in the last 2 weeks. Still got a fair bit to do, and as fun as the combat is, I hate grinding/farming. It's not particularly hard either, just takes time, which I hate. Oh well, maybe next week I'll get into it again.
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#1458 naaros
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Someone translated it if this is what you are referring to:

http://dilly-shilly.blogspot.com/2009/10/final-fantasy-xiii-episode-zero.html

I read all that before buying the game back in Feb, lol. Well, I didn't read the Chapters that said had spoilers from the game, but the others were pretty good background info.

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#1459 Gxgear
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Well, part of the "problem" with the story is they throw you into the action with no background. But they did that on purpose because throughout the game, it does flashbacks to the 13 days prior to them being l'Cei. So I just see that as an interesting narrative approach, personally.

naaros

Well if it's an intended technique then it completely fails. Flashbacks only works when your audience are famailiar with the story already.

FF13 is a case where the game is more aware itself than the player will ever be, and to quote a review I read that phrased it fittingly: it's more of a byproduct of SE's self-masturbation.

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#1460 TheEldestGod
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Man, something's not right. I still need a couple more million gil to get my plat, but suddenly the Adamantioses I've been farming stopped dropping Platinum Ignots. I was running through Mission 63 over and over and hitting that extra Adamantoise out in the field and getting a Platinum Ignot from each almost every single time. Tonight, however, I got one Platinum Ignot out of over a dozen runs. It was like 25 or 26 battles after I started counting that I didn't get anything. What gives? I got my catalogs equipped. I haven't changed strategies. Does anyone have a clue of any way to actually give yourself BAD luck?
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#1461 TheEldestGod
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[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="naaros"]

Well, part of the "problem" with the story is they throw you into the action with no background. But they did that on purpose because throughout the game, it does flashbacks to the 13 days prior to them being l'Cei. So I just see that as an interesting narrative approach, personally.

Well if it's an intended technique then it completely fails. Flashbacks only works when your audience are famailiar with the story already.

FF13 is a case where the game is more aware itself than the player will ever be, and to quote a review I read that phrased it fittingly: it's more of a byproduct of SE's self-masturbation.

Haha. How lovely. I agree, though. I thought the story was very poorly executed and were it not for the Datalog the game wouldn't have made much sense at all. The story itself didn't even feel that important until the last couple of chapters. The ending was just freakin' beautiful, though. My favorite FF ending besides IX's.
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#1462 hazelnutman
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Man, something's not right. I still need a couple more million gil to get my plat, but suddenly the Adamantioses I've been farming stopped dropping Platinum Ignots. I was running through Mission 63 over and over and hitting that extra Adamantoise out in the field and getting a Platinum Ignot from each almost every single time. Tonight, however, I got one Platinum Ignot out of over a dozen runs. It was like 25 or 26 battles after I started counting that I didn't get anything. What gives? I got my catalogs equipped. I haven't changed strategies. Does anyone have a clue of any way to actually give yourself BAD luck? TheEldestGod
Are you not wearing your lucky Final Fantasy XIII shirt?
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#1463 TheEldestGod
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[QUOTE="TheEldestGod"]Man, something's not right. I still need a couple more million gil to get my plat, but suddenly the Adamantioses I've been farming stopped dropping Platinum Ignots. I was running through Mission 63 over and over and hitting that extra Adamantoise out in the field and getting a Platinum Ignot from each almost every single time. Tonight, however, I got one Platinum Ignot out of over a dozen runs. It was like 25 or 26 battles after I started counting that I didn't get anything. What gives? I got my catalogs equipped. I haven't changed strategies. Does anyone have a clue of any way to actually give yourself BAD luck? hazelnutman
Are you not wearing your lucky Final Fantasy XIII shirt?

No. I wear a 6XL and they don't make them that big. :( So I opted for the thong instead! :D
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#1464 Khadaj32
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[QUOTE="hazelnutman"][QUOTE="TheEldestGod"]Man, something's not right. I still need a couple more million gil to get my plat, but suddenly the Adamantioses I've been farming stopped dropping Platinum Ignots. I was running through Mission 63 over and over and hitting that extra Adamantoise out in the field and getting a Platinum Ignot from each almost every single time. Tonight, however, I got one Platinum Ignot out of over a dozen runs. It was like 25 or 26 battles after I started counting that I didn't get anything. What gives? I got my catalogs equipped. I haven't changed strategies. Does anyone have a clue of any way to actually give yourself BAD luck? TheEldestGod
Are you not wearing your lucky Final Fantasy XIII shirt?

No. I wear a 6XL and they don't make them that big. :( So I opted for the thong instead! :D

Weird image, bro.

I think I'ma get some grinding in on FFXIII today before I go pick up The Show, heh.

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#1465 zarshack
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Havent been to this forum in ages suprised that there is an FFXIII sticky that is still active :o

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#1466 Khadaj32
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Havent been to this forum in ages suprised that there is an FFXIII sticky that is still active :o

zarshack

Well, the game and its fans are just that awesome. We got an off-topic dealie goin' on here, heh.

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#1467 zarshack
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[QUOTE="zarshack"]

Havent been to this forum in ages suprised that there is an FFXIII sticky that is still active :o

Khadaj32

Well, the game and its fans are just that awesome. We got an off-topic dealie goin' on here, heh.

Thats cool. wish i had bothered to look for a thread here when i was still playing the game, i was just frequenting the FFXIII boards at that time.

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#1468 Khadaj32
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[QUOTE="Khadaj32"]

[QUOTE="zarshack"]

Havent been to this forum in ages suprised that there is an FFXIII sticky that is still active :o

zarshack

Well, the game and its fans are just that awesome. We got an off-topic dealie goin' on here, heh.

Thats cool. wish i had bothered to look for a thread here when i was still playing the game, i was just frequenting the FFXIII boards at that time.

Lol, yeah. And there's always someone dropping by asking how to beat a boss, or where to find a Cie'th stone or something.

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#1469 zarshack
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Cool, i'm just gonna hang around here for a bit then :P

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#1470 Khadaj32
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Cool, i'm just gonna hang around here for a bit then :P

zarshack

Might be a little quiet, Hoax and TEG aren't around yet D:

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#1471 zarshack
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ah well, i have to goto sleep soon anyway, but i will be back tommorow! :twisted:

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#1472 Khadaj32
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ah well, i have to goto sleep soon anyway, but i will be back tommorow! :twisted:

zarshack

Lol, take it easy.

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#1473 Jbller3
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Any tips on how to defeat the Primarch?
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#1474 zarshack
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Any tips on how to defeat the Primarch? Jbller3
in which chapter?

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#1475 Jbller3
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[QUOTE="Jbller3"]Any tips on how to defeat the Primarch? zarshack

in which chapter?

I think Chapter 10 ? Barthandelus
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#1476 Vivacioussoul
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[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="Jbller3"]Any tips on how to defeat the Primarch? Jbller3

in which chapter?

I think Chapter 10 ? Barthandelus

Do you listen to this music when you fight him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTm6Rt-1SXY

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#1477 Dahaka-UK
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That would be chapter 9...

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#1478 bizzy420
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hey guys in doing the sieth stone missions and for mission 30, im supposed to fight a monster in Mah'habara, but i cant find him. i walk through and just end up in sulya springs. is he hidden??
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#1479 Jbller3
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That would be chapter 9...

Dahaka-UK
Then its Chapter 9..... Does anybody have tips on beating him?
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#1480 zarshack
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hey guys in doing the sieth stone missions and for mission 30, im supposed to fight a monster in Mah'habara, but i cant find him. i walk through and just end up in sulya springs. is he hidden??bizzy420
dont go on atmos, hop over him and go past him look on the map again and check where it is, it is up the back somewhere behind a door.

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#1481 zarshack
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[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

That would be chapter 9...

Jbller3

Then its Chapter 9..... Does anybody have tips on beating him?

when he goes to use destructo thingy go all out offense and keep hitting the crap out of him. you neeed to stop him from casting it when he does it or it one hit KO's your party, if you fail to stop the second one its ok because it wont 1 shot your party if you are at full health and have a sent.

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#1482 Vivacioussoul
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Are you sure about stopping him from doing destrudo? I know that if you keep hitting him until he makes that sound it takes off less but I don't think you can stop him from doing it.

I used Lightning, Hope, and Sazh.

Paradigms I had (If I can remember correctly)

Commando, Ravager, Ravager (Pretty much the bread and butter of staggering offense in this game)

Commando, Ravager, Medic (A step down from Com/Rav/Rav)

Commando, Synergist, Synergist (Sazh is a better Synergist than Hope but together they do work to get plus statues on everyone)

Medic, Medic, Synergist (I use this to heal quickly before and after destrudo)

Just keep hitting him and heal when you have to. You can take a break from hitting him for a while. As long as his stagger bar isn't empty, it wiill go right back to where it was with one hit.

Finally if you take too long he will cast doom (or death or whatever it is on the party leader)

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#1483 bizzy420
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[QUOTE="bizzy420"]hey guys in doing the sieth stone missions and for mission 30, im supposed to fight a monster in Mah'habara, but i cant find him. i walk through and just end up in sulya springs. is he hidden??zarshack

dont go on atmos, hop over him and go past him look on the map again and check where it is, it is up the back somewhere behind a door.

ok i'll try that. i never knew it was possible to hop over him. THANKS
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#1484 zarshack
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Are you sure about stopping him from doing destrudo? I know that if you keep hitting him until he makes that sound it takes off less but I don't think you can stop him from doing it.

I used Lightning, Hope, and Sazh.

Paradigms I had (If I can remember correctly)

Commando, Ravager, Ravager (Pretty much the bread and butter of staggering offense in this game)

Commando, Ravager, Medic (A step down from Com/Rav/Rav)

Commando, Synergist, Synergist (Sazh is a better Synergist than Hope but together they do work to get plus statues on everyone)

Medic, Medic, Synergist (I use this to heal quickly before and after destrudo)

Just keep hitting him and heal when you have to. You can take a break from hitting him for a while. As long as his stagger bar isn't empty, it wiill go right back to where it was with one hit.

Finally if you take too long he will cast doom (or death or whatever it is on the party leader)

Vivacioussoul

I am positive you can stop him from doing it atleast once easily, i have never really tried to do him and stop his 2nd one. The problem you have is you have no sabotour, i would advise swapping sahz or hope out for fang. Fang is the best com in the game and has a ton of str.

Edit: Actually you could swap Lightning out for fang if you wanted, then you could still get protect/shell/haste/bravery/faith.

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#1485 yokofox33
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Wow. I got 0 stars on the last boss. What the hell? I was too powerful for it. I beat it in 3 minutes, but the target was like 2. I have to fight all those forms again just to try for the 5-stars. Stupid. Soooooo stupid.

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#1486 zarshack
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Wow. I got 0 stars on the last boss. What the hell? I was too powerful for it. I beat it in 3 minutes, but the target was like 2. I have to fight all those forms again just to try for the 5-stars. Stupid. Soooooo stupid.

yokofox33

you need to beat him in the first stagger if you are doing it after leveling up after finishing the game. just buff haste/bravery/faith. then debuff desprotect/imperil/deshell, and then do nothing but focus on killing it.

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#1487 yokofox33
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[QUOTE="yokofox33"]

Wow. I got 0 stars on the last boss. What the hell? I was too powerful for it. I beat it in 3 minutes, but the target was like 2. I have to fight all those forms again just to try for the 5-stars. Stupid. Soooooo stupid.

zarshack

you need to beat him in the first stagger if you are doing it after leveling up after finishing the game. just buff haste/bravery/faith. then debuff desprotect/imperil/deshell, and then do nothing but focus on killing it.

Oh, you can try him again after you beat the game? Cool. I'll just try to do it right now then. The first 2 fights are infinitely harder than the last one.

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#1488 TheEldestGod
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[QUOTE="yokofox33"]

[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="yokofox33"]

Wow. I got 0 stars on the last boss. What the hell? I was too powerful for it. I beat it in 3 minutes, but the target was like 2. I have to fight all those forms again just to try for the 5-stars. Stupid. Soooooo stupid.

you need to beat him in the first stagger if you are doing it after leveling up after finishing the game. just buff haste/bravery/faith. then debuff desprotect/imperil/deshell, and then do nothing but focus on killing it.

Oh, you can try him again after you beat the game? Cool. I'll just try to do it right now then. The first 2 fights are infinitely harder than the last one.

Yeah, the final boss is a total wimp. I 5-starred it on my first try, though. I beat him in like 30 seconds. I went in with syn.syn.syn to buff, sab.sab.sab to debuff, and then I switch to com.rav.rav to stagger, and com.com.com to kill. It was over as fast as I could switch paradigms. 5stars and a trophy with no effort at all. ;)
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#1489 zarshack
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[QUOTE="yokofox33"]

[QUOTE="zarshack"]you need to beat him in the first stagger if you are doing it after leveling up after finishing the game. just buff haste/bravery/faith. then debuff desprotect/imperil/deshell, and then do nothing but focus on killing it.

TheEldestGod

Oh, you can try him again after you beat the game? Cool. I'll just try to do it right now then. The first 2 fights are infinitely harder than the last one.

Yeah, the final boss is a total wimp. I 5-starred it on my first try, though. I beat him in like 30 seconds. I went in with syn.syn.syn to buff, sab.sab.sab to debuff, and then I switch to com.rav.rav to stagger, and com.com.com to kill. It was over as fast as I could switch paradigms. 5stars and a trophy with no effort at all. ;)

how did you have 3 sabs by that point in the game? you must have spent tons of time grinding the CP so that you could level sub roles.

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#1490 yokofox33
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I got him on my 2nd try easily. Just went in with a RAV/SAB/SYN and then just went into relentless assault as soon as I got Deprotect and Deshell on him, along with Haste, Bravery, Faith on my people. Beat him in just over a minute.

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#1491 TheEldestGod
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[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="TheEldestGod"][QUOTE="yokofox33"]

Oh, you can try him again after you beat the game? Cool. I'll just try to do it right now then. The first 2 fights are infinitely harder than the last one.

Yeah, the final boss is a total wimp. I 5-starred it on my first try, though. I beat him in like 30 seconds. I went in with syn.syn.syn to buff, sab.sab.sab to debuff, and then I switch to com.rav.rav to stagger, and com.com.com to kill. It was over as fast as I could switch paradigms. 5stars and a trophy with no effort at all. ;)

how did you have 3 sabs by that point in the game? you must have spent tons of time grinding the CP so that you could level sub roles.

Yeah, I did. I spent HOURS farming that Wladislaus. I had all my sub roles maxed out with 999,999 CP left over before I even beat the game and opened the last level of the crystarium. However, I may not have actually had three sabs. I know that I had Fang, Vanille, and Sahz as my team. Come to think of it, I may have opened up with Sab.Sab.Syn. Yeah, that's more likely. I already posted my strategy right after I actually did it, but that's probably 20 pages back by now.
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#1492 TheEldestGod
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I got him on my 2nd try easily. Just went in with a RAV/SAB/SYN and then just went into relentless assault as soon as I got Deprotect and Deshell on him, along with Haste, Bravery, Faith on my people. Beat him in just over a minute.

yokofox33
Awesome. Congrats on that. ;)
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#1493 zarshack
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[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="TheEldestGod"] Yeah, the final boss is a total wimp. I 5-starred it on my first try, though. I beat him in like 30 seconds. I went in with syn.syn.syn to buff, sab.sab.sab to debuff, and then I switch to com.rav.rav to stagger, and com.com.com to kill. It was over as fast as I could switch paradigms. 5stars and a trophy with no effort at all. ;)TheEldestGod

how did you have 3 sabs by that point in the game? you must have spent tons of time grinding the CP so that you could level sub roles.

Yeah, I did. I spent HOURS farming that Wladislaus. I had all my sub roles maxed out with 999,999 CP left over before I even beat the game and opened the last level of the crystarium. However, I may not have actually had three sabs. I know that I had Fang, Vanille, and Sahz as my team. Come to think of it, I may have opened up with Sab.Sab.Syn. Yeah, that's more likely. I already posted my strategy right after I actually did it, but that's probably 20 pages back by now.

wow... what was your playtime when you finished the game finally?

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#1494 TheEldestGod
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[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="TheEldestGod"][QUOTE="zarshack"]how did you have 3 sabs by that point in the game? you must have spent tons of time grinding the CP so that you could level sub roles.

Yeah, I did. I spent HOURS farming that Wladislaus. I had all my sub roles maxed out with 999,999 CP left over before I even beat the game and opened the last level of the crystarium. However, I may not have actually had three sabs. I know that I had Fang, Vanille, and Sahz as my team. Come to think of it, I may have opened up with Sab.Sab.Syn. Yeah, that's more likely. I already posted my strategy right after I actually did it, but that's probably 20 pages back by now.

wow... what was your playtime when you finished the game finally?

It was 70 something. I just checked it and I'm at 96 hours with a lot of gil farming left to go before I get my Plat. Farming the Wlads took me quite a while, but it gave me a HUGE head start in the end game.
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#1495 zarshack
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I had heaps of trouble on the 2nd last boss, but i went through the game and never grinded and was at the boss by 39 hours, i actually got the game 3 days early and so i finished it the day it was released :)

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66% of my trophies completed. Got quite a few in the past hour: 5/6 of the Crystarium Seals (just need Commando), Limit Breaker, All High Level Cieth Missions, and I beat the giant Cactaur. I got super lucky. I "lucky" staggered him with only 2 of my party members left, so I just beat him up with those two, he luckily killed my AI partner, I quickly used Renew, and then he luckily didn't target my party leader. Killed him with one character left :lol: I 5-starred it as well, so even better.

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[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="TheEldestGod"] Yeah, I did. I spent HOURS farming that Wladislaus. I had all my sub roles maxed out with 999,999 CP left over before I even beat the game and opened the last level of the crystarium. However, I may not have actually had three sabs. I know that I had Fang, Vanille, and Sahz as my team. Come to think of it, I may have opened up with Sab.Sab.Syn. Yeah, that's more likely. I already posted my strategy right after I actually did it, but that's probably 20 pages back by now. TheEldestGod

wow... what was your playtime when you finished the game finally?

It was 70 something. I just checked it and I'm at 96 hours with a lot of gil farming left to go before I get my Plat. Farming the Wlads took me quite a while, but it gave me a HUGE head start in the end game.

Hey I was just going to ask if you got Plat yet, but I got my answer. It feels like a race to the finish between me and you:lol:I havent played in soo long though, I cant find the time with all my finals!

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Yay, I'm on the final Chapter! Gonna farm that one thing everyone tells me to farm (they give you 35k or something like that). And then beat the game finally. Stupid PS3 blu-ray drive. If you didn't fail, then I would have beaten FFXIII eons ago.
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#1499 TheEldestGod
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[QUOTE="HarDcore_RpG"]

[QUOTE="TheEldestGod"][QUOTE="zarshack"]wow... what was your playtime when you finished the game finally?

It was 70 something. I just checked it and I'm at 96 hours with a lot of gil farming left to go before I get my Plat. Farming the Wlads took me quite a while, but it gave me a HUGE head start in the end game.

Hey I was just going to ask if you got Plat yet, but I got my answer. It feels like a race to the finish between me and you:lol:I havent played in soo long though, I cant find the time with all my finals!

:lol: I WIN!!!! :P I've been at it for hours and ended up staying up all night, but I finally got the dang thing! They made that treasure hunter trophy ridiculously time consuming. If it weren't for that one trophy I wold have been done with the game in 80 - 90 hours, but I ended up finishing at 107 hours. I'm just glad its over and I get to finally pimp my big screen with that smexy Fang theme. Woot! Good luck, man!
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#1500 yokofox33
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You only need 1 Omega weapon for each character right? It's going to be a B to farm the materials to convert them to Omega weapons.