The Official Final Fantasy XIII Thread (56K Warning)

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#201 yokofox33
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[QUOTE="Dracula68"]Friday at Noon eastern the reviews will be all over the net as the embargo breaks.yokofox33

I'll be looking forward to GS's review then! I honestly believe GS will score it at an 8.5, but nothing will stop me from enjoying this game immensely.

Did I call it, or did I call it? :P

Great score though! Despite all the crap this game has received for being linear and whatnot it still scores an impressive 8.5. Can't wait for this game!

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#202 Sokol4ever
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Looking forward to FFXIII.

On the side note, fantastic job with the sticky - Hazel. :)

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#203 yokofox33
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Oh yeah, does the text and/or video review have spoilers? I just kinda checked the score, but didn't do anything because I was worried about spoilers.

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#204 frostybanana
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Oh yeah, does the text and/or video review have spoilers? I just kinda checked the score, but didn't do anything because I was worried about spoilers.

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Nope, no spoilers bro.
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#205 Texas2089
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[QUOTE="Texas2089"]I just preordered it at GameStop too. Gonna be my first midnight release :D-Hoax-
Yeah this be my first MidNight purchase as well , are you picking up the normal edition or collectors edition?

Normal. We don't have a CE in the States :( I'm gonna import the CE though and keep it sealed.
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#206 Sonyntendo
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8.5 sounds about right. Edge magazine are just being punks again. 5 is too low.ASK_Story

It's not even funny ! The rating they gave it is not even possible , at all ! 5/10 ?! I Still can't believe it , I mean , It doesn't make sense :'@ !

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#207 2uneek4u
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[QUOTE="Scar_Finger"][QUOTE="frostybanana"] is that hard to believe or something? It's not like Heavy Rain is a terrible game or something.CraigyM83
\it was a joke im looking forward to getting both tho im dissapointed FF13 has no towns. no towns = no life imo

What is this no towns thing? As i nthere's actually no settlements in the game or its jus ta few stops like in FFX?

theres no settlement, well there are 2 settlement. but throughout your journey you wont come across a settlement where you can talk to npc. browse through shops. etc...
The only shop you will come across is those in the savepoint mechanic. where ever you find a save point mechanism, gives you option to buy/sell and save

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#208 2uneek4u
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[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]8.5 sounds about right. Edge magazine are just being punks again. 5 is too low.Sonyntendo

It's not even funny ! The rating they gave it is not even possible , at all ! 5/10 ?! I Still can't believe it , I mean , It doesn't make sense :'@ !

well i agree with the scoring was a little low i would have give it a 7 at the moment. BUt if you have read their review, Its described pretty well how the game is like in your first 20+ hours of play time.

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#209 Ultrabeatdown55
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Do Final Fantasy games make you extremely emotional? If I am with a character for hours and hours, and he dies at the end, I am sure I will cry. Are these games known for making you shed a few tears?

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#210 naaros
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Final Fantasy X is the only game that has ever made me truly sad and feel kinda emotional (the ending). It is also my favorite ending in any game.

EDIT: Oh and I pretend FFX-2 never happened. Not because it was a horrible game (had wonderful gameplay), but I feel like the original ending to FFX (w/out FFX-2) was amazingly powerful.

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#211 PoisoN_Facecam0
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Do Final Fantasy games make you extremely emotional? If I am with a character for hours and hours, and he dies at the end, I am sure I will cry. Are these games known for making you shed a few tears?

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I'd say yes.. on more than a few occasion i've gotten pretty bummed at events that have happened in an FF game.. FF7, and FFX especially..
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#212 Scrotous
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Hmm it does look like i will enjoy it alot... but what concerns me is, you beat the last boss, watch the ending and thats it, game ends? Seems like there won't be a Ultima weapon or any kind of secret bosses/dungeons huh...? What a shame =/, correct me if i'm wrong though (which i highly hope lol).

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#213 frielock
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Hmm it does look like i will enjoy it alot... but what concerns me is, you beat the last boss, watch the ending and thats it, game ends? Seems like there won't be a Ultima weapon or any kind of secret bosses/dungeons huh...? What a shame =/, correct me if i'm wrong though (which i highly hope lol).

Scrotous
I was watching X-Play and in an interview they said there were some enemies much tougher than the regular storyline enemies. So I took this as the sidequests once tthings openend up would feature some mega bosses, but I could be wrong.
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#214 hazelnutman
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Hmm it does look like i will enjoy it alot... but what concerns me is, you beat the last boss, watch the ending and thats it, game ends? Seems like there won't be a Ultima weapon or any kind of secret bosses/dungeons huh...? What a shame =/, correct me if i'm wrong though (which i highly hope lol).

Scrotous
From what I gathered in the GameTrailers review (not so sure though, I only watched it once), it's a lot like Final Fantasy X. There will be a big opportunity to do whatever you want (go back, do more missions, go through secret dungeons, etc) right before the final boss sequence. I loved beating the last boss in FFX, and then loading my game up to get all of the secret Aeons, allowing me to go and beat the final boss in multiple ways again and again.
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#215 frostybanana
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Final Fantasy X is the only game that has ever made me truly sad and feel kinda emotional (the ending). It is also my favorite ending in any game.

EDIT: Oh and I pretend FFX-2 never happened. Not because it was a horrible game (had wonderful gameplay), but I feel like the original ending to FFX (w/out FFX-2) was amazingly powerful.

naaros
Yeah I definitely thought it was hilarious how Tidus appeared at the end with NO explanation.
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#216 linkoot98
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Does anyone find it odd that GS didn't talk about the music a lot? I'm a HUGE fan of FF music, and I would expect it to be highlighted a little more in the reviews - especially if it received an emblem for musical score. Sorry, my rant is over. :P
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#217 Abecale
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Has there been any confirmed DLC? Stuff like extra optional dungeons or bosses, DLC like items, weapons, costumes?

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#218 hazelnutman
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Has there been any confirmed DLC? Stuff like extra optional dungeons or bosses, DLC like items, weapons, costumes?

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Nope, absolutely no DLC has been planned by Square Enix.
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#219 SteveTabernacle
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I managed to find a convenient excuse to request Tuesday off, so I can spend the day with this game.
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#220 PoisoN_Facecam0
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[QUOTE="Abecale"]

Has there been any confirmed DLC? Stuff like extra optional dungeons or bosses, DLC like items, weapons, costumes?

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Nope, absolutely no DLC has been planned by Square Enix.

on the back of the box for the 360 version it had the "add on content" in orange (XB Live) in the specs... maybe a sign of things to come?
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#221 killerband55
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Final Fantasy X is the only game that has ever made me truly sad and feel kinda emotional (the ending). It is also my favorite ending in any game.

EDIT: Oh and I pretend FFX-2 never happened. Not because it was a horrible game (had wonderful gameplay), but I feel like the original ending to FFX (w/out FFX-2) was amazingly powerful.

naaros

the battle system in this game feels a lot like FFX-2, but they got a lvl up system like FFX in this game as well, but i hate the camera in this game (Uncharted 2's camera is a lot better)

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#222 Khadaj32
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[QUOTE="naaros"]

Final Fantasy X is the only game that has ever made me truly sad and feel kinda emotional (the ending). It is also my favorite ending in any game.

EDIT: Oh and I pretend FFX-2 never happened. Not because it was a horrible game (had wonderful gameplay), but I feel like the original ending to FFX (w/out FFX-2) was amazingly powerful.

killerband55

the battle system in this game feels a lot like FFX-2, but they got a lvl up system like FFX in this game as well, but i hate the camera in this game (Uncharted 2's camera is a lot better)

It's very odd that you compare Uncharted's 2 camera, an action game, to FFXIII's, an RPG. Not bustin' balls, just kinda weird.

And yeah, GS really effed up the review. They condemned FFXIII's character progression, stating that it's too linear until late in the game. FFX had the exact same system mechanic, linear until late in the game, yet it was praised. GS failed.

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#223 naaros
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Grr, hate these forums. Can't get the first quote to ever work. ;/

What a surprise, someone on the internet wants to hate on something that someone else likes. :o They DID explain it. Not the game's fault you didn't understand the storyline. Anyways.

on the back of the box for the 360 version it had the "add on content" in orange (XB Live) in the specs... maybe a sign of things to comefrostybanana



Well, it has downloadable avatars or something. They might only come with the special edition bundle, but might have that on all games regardless.

the battle system in this game feels a lot like FFX-2,



Yeah, I thought of FFX-2 the first time I learned about the battle system which is fine by me as I loved FFX-2's battles.

They condemned FFXIII's character progression, stating that it's too linear until late in the game.



I don't think having linear character progression is something to knock the game for anyways. Sphere grid was very linear until the end, and FFXII's license board was horribly boring (imo) BECAUSE it was nonlinear.

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#224 Sphire
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I don't think having linear character progression is something to knock the game for anyways. Sphere grid was very linear until the end, and FFXII's license board was horribly boring (imo) BECAUSE it was nonlinear.naaros

Agree with your points wholeheartedly dude.

I didn't read the review, I don't plan to, gonna play the game anyway, just wanted to know the score and the pros and cons. I, like yoko did, expected an 8.5 from GS. And I too expected it to be knocked points due to 'linearity'. I swear people need to ease up off linearity as a con. I swear if GoW3 is anything as linear as the previous 2 GoWs, but doesn't get points knocked off I'm gonna explode! hehe, well maybe just get irritated.

The one thing that did surprise me was that 'linearity' was such a big con. It's basically the only real con listed there (again I didn't read the full review). If that's the case this game will be excellent for me, LINEARITY FTW!!!!

Though the comment on Vanille has me worried...no...not Vanille....nooooooooo.... ahhahaa.

Best 'pro' comment for me: Great Story.....I'm sold! (though technically I already was....)

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#225 CraigyM83
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One of the most annoying parts of FFX was trudging the Thunder Plains. I've been playing FF2 on my iPod, what a pain in the arse it is going from town to town and just when you think you're there 'BATTLE!!!'. I'm looking forward to a streamlined apppoach. NPC's talked out of their ass and as for shops, you go press a button at a designated place and a menu comes up, will doing it at a save sphere be that hard to swallow? FF12 was the opposite and I hated it, the vast lands did my nuts in. If i want to run miles doing fack all I'll play Oblivion (which bored the hell out of me). A bit more pick up and playability is great for those with a job, girlfriends and other things to consume our time with.
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#226 frostybanana
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[QUOTE="naaros"]I don't think having linear character progression is something to knock the game for anyways. Sphere grid was very linear until the end, and FFXII's license board was horribly boring (imo) BECAUSE it was nonlinear.Sphire

Agree with your points wholeheartedly dude.

I didn't read the review, I don't plan to, gonna play the game anyway, just wanted to know the score and the pros and cons. I, like yoko did, expected an 8.5 from GS. And I too expected it to be knocked points due to 'linearity'. I swear people need to ease up off linearity as a con. I swear if GoW3 is anything as linear as the previous 2 GoWs, but doesn't get points knocked off I'm gonna explode! hehe, well maybe just get irritated.

The one thing that did surprise me was that 'linearity' was such a big con. It's basically the only real con listed there (again I didn't read the full review). If that's the case this game will be excellent for me, LINEARITY FTW!!!!

Though the comment on Vanille has me worried...no...not Vanille....nooooooooo.... ahhahaa.

Best 'pro' comment for me: Great Story.....I'm sold! (though technically I already was....)

Action games being linear isn't a big deal. RPGs being linear is a different story. It's all based on personal preference, but I personally am not going to enjoy walking through a straight line all the way down for the first 20 or so hours of the game. Especially a game as beautiful as this one. It's the type of game that I know a lot of people would want to explore and look around in and not be forced to continue the storyline. Otherwise, you're not really playing the role any more than you would in any old action game or FPS. Especially when a lot of the game is automated and your basically traveling along a straight line from point to point watching non interactive cutscenes. There's no reason to be confused as to why anyone is upset at the linearity of the game. Nor is there any reason for any of us to expect that anyone WOULDN'T enjoy getting right to the point of the game. Don't be so ignorant or brazen enough to think that everyone is alike in the way they think. If some of us were expecting to see a nonlinear open-world RPG, then I don't see any problem in being disappointed. And rightfully so, the game carries the Final Fantasy title, and therefore it's subject to be compared to past titles and if it loses some of the fundamental RPG elements, people will be upset. However, that isn't the only reason the game is being knocked. There are other flaws in the game so don't think just because it's a pretty game it deserves an elite rating. I haven't experienced any of the gameplay yet, and like a lot of others, I'll reserve judgment until then. Things like pacing and mechanics also have something to do with. But I think 8.5 is a perfectly acceptable score for the game from what I'm hearing from everyone. It seems the hardcore people who are hating on the game are giving it REALLY low scores, the more medial group are giving it somewhere in the area of 8.5 and some of the people who LOVE the game (and there are always plenty of these for every FF) are the ones clamoring for a higher score. All in all, it evens out. I would think most people looking to see if they should buy the game should look at the reviews and see what they think for themselves. The reviews make it look like a very good game so, yeah.
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#227 Texas2089
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[QUOTE="hazelnutman"][QUOTE="Abecale"]

Has there been any confirmed DLC? Stuff like extra optional dungeons or bosses, DLC like items, weapons, costumes?

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Nope, absolutely no DLC has been planned by Square Enix.

on the back of the box for the 360 version it had the "add on content" in orange (XB Live) in the specs... maybe a sign of things to come?

It said "downloadable content" on the back of the Sta Ocean box as well and there wasn't any DLC so maybe they just put that there to leave open the possibility of DLC.
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#228 frielock
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I was initially worried about the lack of traditional towns and "linearity" because I thought it wouldn't allow for the personality of the characters to really pop, but the reviews say the characters personalitites really shine so all my worries are gone. I like how the Tales series have their pop up bubbles that have the characters interacting and how WKC has the characters conversating as you walk around.
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#229 CraigyM83
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Does anyone know if we're going to be force fed Leona Lewis while playing the game or is it just in the trailer?
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#230 naaros
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Does anyone know if we're going to be force fed Leona Lewis while playing the game or is it just in the trailer?CraigyM83

I suspect it will just be during the credits. If it really becomes a big deal for you, can always just mute the game.

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#231 CraigyM83
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[QUOTE="CraigyM83"]Does anyone know if we're going to be force fed Leona Lewis while playing the game or is it just in the trailer?naaros

I suspect it will just be during the credits. If it really becomes a big deal for you, can always just mute the game.

Not so much the music itself but one of the reasons I've always enjoyed FF games is the music that comes with it and I think it's shame they've sold out the original theme to replace it with a tacky pop song.
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#232 naaros
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[QUOTE="naaros"]

[QUOTE="CraigyM83"]Does anyone know if we're going to be force fed Leona Lewis while playing the game or is it just in the trailer?CraigyM83

I suspect it will just be during the credits. If it really becomes a big deal for you, can always just mute the game.

Not so much the music itself but one of the reasons I've always enjoyed FF games is the music that comes with it and I think it's shame they've sold out the original theme to replace it with a tacky pop song.

Well, I think the original song was just as tacky and poppy, but was in another language. :P That's just my opinion. But anyways, I have the FFXIII soundtrack, and it's really good, so I don't think you have to worry too much. I can't see them using the Leona Lewis song that much in the game (ending is likely).

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#233 frostybanana
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Does anyone know if we're going to be force fed Leona Lewis while playing the game or is it just in the trailer?CraigyM83
I have to say I was incredibly annoyed when I saw the trailer for the first time and they had that song going. FF usually has some good stuff soundtrack-wise, so let's just hope they don't have any other fluffy pop songs in it.
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#234 stack1109
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Hey guys, so is there a decent special edition coming out, or only the poor offering I've been reading about. I mean, not even a STEELBOOK? Poor, Square-Enix, poor...

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#235 Dragonspear2462
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Hey guys, so is there a decent special edition coming out, or only the poor offering I've been reading about. I mean, not even a STEELBOOK? Poor, Square-Enix, poor...

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Nop...no special edition in US....it's probably because the special edtion of FF XII didn't sell well....if you are looking for a special edition of XIII...you should get the EU vers... I think it includes the partial soundtrack of the game.
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#236 Console_Gamer93
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I'll be getting this game eventually (probably summer time when i'll have time to play it) but does anyone else just cringe while watching the trailers?...(some of the things they say/voice work)

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#237 yokofox33
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Here's my take on the linearity of the game: I could be totally wrong because I haven't played and have tried to stay away from trailers and previews. I want to be surprised when I play this game. Anyway, Lightning seems like a character who is absolutely totally focused on her goal. She has no time to deviate from her path and waste her time exploring or finding 4 empty bottles for some rando NPC who will give you 200 gald. The game reflects her personality.

As much as I like exploring and doing side missions don't you find it weird that there's a crisis going on in the world around and you're out in the field exploring and doing side missions? At any second the world could be destroyed or your lover murdered, but you're out killing that monster to get that special gun! Perhaps the creators' intention with 13 was to keep Lightning, the party, and you focused on the mission at hand. I know it opens up after awhile, but perhaps something in storyline allows for some exploring and side missions to be possible.

Again I could be wrong, but I'm just trying to demonstrate that linearity isn't so bad. It might actually lend itself to the focus of the game.

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#238 Shadow-Elite
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As much as I like exploring and doing side missions don't you find it weird that there's a crisis going on in the world around and you're out in the field exploring and doing side missions? At any second the world could be destroyed or your lover murdered, but you're out killing that monster to get that special gun! Perhaps the creators' intention with 13 was to keep Lightning, the party, and you focused on the mission at hand. I know it opens up after awhile, but perhaps something in storyline allows for some exploring and side missions to be possible.

Again I could be wrong, but I'm just trying to demonstrate that linearity isn't so bad. It might actually lend itself to the focus of the game.

yokofox33

As good as a point that is... Its a game so its not meant to taken that seriously and further more its a JRPG so its definitely not meant to be taken that seriously. RPGs are suppose to give you the best illusion of choice. Not straight line like an action game.

Anyway, my take on the linearity is... Im not really sure how Im going to feel about it. I mean 20 hours is a long time for an RPG to open up. BUT FF13 is giving you another 25-30 hours to do whatever you want (heard the length of the game was 60 hours)

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#239 frostybanana
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Here's my take on the linearity of the game: I could be totally wrong because I haven't played and have tried to stay away from trailers and previews. I want to be surprised when I play this game. Anyway, Lightning seems like a character who is absolutely totally focused on her goal. She has no time to deviate from her path and waste her time exploring or finding 4 empty bottles for some rando NPC who will give you 200 gald. The game reflects her personality.

As much as I like exploring and doing side missions don't you find it weird that there's a crisis going on in the world around and you're out in the field exploring and doing side missions? At any second the world could be destroyed or your lover murdered, but you're out killing that monster to get that special gun! Perhaps the creators' intention with 13 was to keep Lightning, the party, and you focused on the mission at hand. I know it opens up after awhile, but perhaps something in storyline allows for some exploring and side missions to be possible.

Again I could be wrong, but I'm just trying to demonstrate that linearity isn't so bad. It might actually lend itself to the focus of the game.

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Well the point of the linearity was so the focus of the game would be more on the story rather than the adventure aspect of the game. In terms of it reflecting her personality, I think that's reaching. I wouldn't read into it anymore than the linearity of the game being a cop out for adding an open world aspect to it. Personally I love taking my own route and getting my characters stronger by deviating from what you're "supposed" to do, but to each his own.
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#240 Abecale
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Why did all the other FF13 topics get locked? Those were legit threads. Are there not allowed to be other Final Fantasy 13 topics besides this sticky? Is there some rule that states "Post all FF13 related talk into the stickied thread"?

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#241 Ultrabeatdown55
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Does anyone know if we're going to be force fed Leona Lewis while playing the game or is it just in the trailer?CraigyM83
Probably only in the credits, but I love this trailer for it so I wouldn't mind it.

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#242 Console_Gamer93
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Why did all the other FF13 topics get locked? Those were legit threads. Are there not allowed to be other Final Fantasy 13 topics besides this sticky? Is there some rule that states "Post all FF13 related talk into the stickied thread"?

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Usually the title will have "Keep it here or risk ________" etc. I guess they forgot to put that in so people thought it was alright to make seperate threads.

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#243 Abecale
Member since 2009 • 919 Posts

By that logic though, all PS3 games should have its own stickied thread.

I know its a big game coming out, and the boards will have alot of topics about it, but locking every FF13 related thread, forcing to post on the sticky?

Come on..

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#244 Console_Gamer93
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Yeah your exactly right they do it for all big games. I don't make the rules. Besides there's an entire forum dedicated to FFXIII so i guess they want this one to stay varied.

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#245 Ultrabeatdown55
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Here is the Collector's Edition unboxing of the game. I wish we got that in the US :(

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#246 rben21232
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I'm glad that Square Enix has taken this new approach with Final Fantasy. Like, Final Fantasy has pretty much been the same thing, in that you control your character, make your party, travel to towns, buy items. It's the same thing over and over again. This new approach is fresh and in my opinion more appealing to a western audience. It may not appeal to the hardcore Final Fantasy fanatics but it doesn't mean it's a bad approach. Gamespot gave the game an 8.5, which I believe to be completely fair.

I have the game preordered =D soooooooo can't wait until Tuesday.

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#248 -Hoax-
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Here is the Collector's Edition unboxing of the game. I wish we got that in the US :(

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THANKS :D for the link man ill be picking the CE up on tuesday. It sucks that the U.S dont get a collectors edition you guys missed out on the Heavy Rain CE now this... Does any know why SE didnt bother?
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#249 stack1109
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[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]

Here is the Collector's Edition unboxing of the game. I wish we got that in the US :(

-Hoax-
THANKS :D for the link man ill be picking the CE up on tuesday. It sucks that the U.S dont get a collectors edition you guys missed out on the Heavy Rain CE now this... Does any know why SE didnt bother?

I will be buying the Collector's Edition, but I still think it sucks. Come on, they could at least have released a full OST with it for crying out loud! And the actual game box itself is the exact same as the regular one. Come on, where is the STEELBOOK? FAIL.
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#250 director13
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Hey quick question guys: Do you think i should buy the strategy guide? I'm confused because i love getting all the ultimate weapons and knowing all the secrets, but i always feel guides detract from the experience (it feels less like an adventure, you know what i mean?). Also, this game is linear, so im wondering if the guide is even needed. What do you guys think?