SF Giants wins 2nd World Series in 3 years, sweeps Detroit Tigers. Sandoval MVP.

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Awesome atmosphere at The Ted yesterday. One of the best crowds in a long time. Great birthday. :)
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#152 JohnBean42
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Tough loss yesterday. 4 home runs (all solo though) and we lose. Oh well.

Alverez starts today...and Pedroia had some...great words about him, saying he's "King Felix reincarnate". Wow.

Ellisbury on 15 day DL...might be 6 weeks, might be longer. Can things get worse for the Sox?

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#153 Oleg_Huzwog
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Ladies and Gentlemen - I present to you, the 2012 New York Mets!

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#154 Oleg_Huzwog
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Can things get worse for the Sox?

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Yes. (Warning: not for the faint of heart)

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#155 JohnBean42
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Both of those videos are great :lol:

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#156 Seabas989
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Meanwhile the Nationals are 7-2. Good start. :)

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#157 GamerForca
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Meanwhile the Nationals are 7-2. Good start. :)

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The NL East is going to be balls to the wall.
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Frenchy sends pizzas to the A's RFP http://yhoo.it/HA63AL Popeyes near Fenway http://yhoo.it/HDwO6g Cheap shot artist leaves school http://yhoo.it/IZrzRC Army dad surprises son http://yhoo.it/IoGsLs B. Wilson needs Tommy John http://sports.yahoo.com/news/giants-closer-brian-wilson-likely-233505976--mlb.html;_ylt=Ary6W0B.nbDAY0oYHcvYSL45nYcB And what is Delmon Young doing out there? http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/04/gifcap-delmon-young-zero-tool-player/
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#159 JohnBean42
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]Frenchy sends pizzas to the A's RFP http://yhoo.it/HA63AL Popeyes near Fenway http://yhoo.it/HDwO6g Cheap shot artist leaves school http://yhoo.it/IZrzRC Army dad surprises son http://yhoo.it/IoGsLs B. Wilson needs Tommy John http://sports.yahoo.com/news/giants-closer-brian-wilson-likely-233505976--mlb.html;_ylt=Ary6W0B.nbDAY0oYHcvYSL45nYcB And what is Delmon Young doing out there? http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/04/gifcap-delmon-young-zero-tool-player/

I love that army story. Made me smile. And I laughed at Young.
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Oh and...:lol::lol::lol: oh Kevin Gregg. Thanks for the win. God, wish we could face him everyday.

Glad I got to see him blow it.

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And what is Delmon Young doing out there? http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/04/gifcap-delmon-young-zero-tool-player/X360PS3AMD05

I haven't seen too many plays like that first gif in a while. Good to see pros looking like little leaguers.

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#162 Master_Live
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Trumbo may hit, but he can't field. Future Adam Dunn if anything.

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#163 Master_Live
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Lord, how much do I have to tolerate this piece of s*** by the name of Rafael Soriano. SOB.
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#164 JohnBean42
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When I asked if it could get any worse for the Red Sox...it might have today. Youk got an apology for Bobby V's comments, but they never should have been said.

http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/7818312/boston-red-sox-bobby-valentine-apologizes-kevin-youkilis-questioning-commitment

Pedroia talking back, so is Youk's agent. Pretty dumb comments if you ask me. Then he goes out today and leaves Bard out too long. And got booed for it.

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Bobby V clearly has no management skills. Your job is to get to know what it takes to motivate your players. He just doesn't seem to get that yet. I understand he's being honest and speaking his mind, but he should realise he walked into a clubhouse in 'disarray' and he should just get along for a while before he plants his flag.

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I wonder if he'll last the year? 2 guys already have beef with him, publicly, two of their best players at that.

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Go Yanks.

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When I asked if it could get any worse for the Red Sox...it might have today. Youk got an apology for Bobby V's comments, but they never should have been said.

http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/7818312/boston-red-sox-bobby-valentine-apologizes-kevin-youkilis-questioning-commitment

Pedroia talking back, so is Youk's agent. Pretty dumb comments if you ask me. Then he goes out today and leaves Bard out too long. And got booed for it.

JohnBean42

Bobby is an idiot. He is horrible at managing pitching time, he did the same thing with yesterdays pitcher and left him out too long. He deserves to be booed.

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#167 JohnBean42
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Bobby V clearly has no management skills. Your job is to get to know what it takes to motivate your players. He just doesn't seem to get that yet. I understand he's being honest and speaking his mind, but he should realise he walked into a clubhouse in 'disarray' and he should just get along for a while before he plants his flag.

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I wonder if he'll last the year? 2 guys already have beef with him, publicly, two of their best players at that.

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Go Yanks.

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A lot of people didn't think he was right for the job, and should have pushed way more for Sveum (even though he rejected them) or never let Farrell go "just in case". I didn't really know much of the argument why he was no good, but I'm starting to see it. The team still seams like a mess and it might be a long year for fans.
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never let Farrell go. JohnBean42

He's going to do great things for T.O.

If they don't already regret it, they soon will.

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Kemp is still a beast. I wish I got more Dodgers games in my area. I would be nice seeing him play.

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#169 Master_Live
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[QUOTE="Namgis"]

Bobby V clearly has no management skills. Your job is to get to know what it takes to motivate your players. He just doesn't seem to get that yet. I understand he's being honest and speaking his mind, but he should realise he walked into a clubhouse in 'disarray' and he should just get along for a while before he plants his flag.

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I wonder if he'll last the year? 2 guys already have beef with him, publicly, two of their best players at that.

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Go Yanks.

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I didn't really know much of the argument why he was no good, but I'm starting to see it.

This.
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#170 Master_Live
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Derek Jeeeeeeeeeeeter!
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#171 Master_Live
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F*** U Carl Pavano.
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#172 Namgis
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Back to back. The Captain is on a nice hot streak of late.

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#173 JohnBean42
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[QUOTE="JohnBean42"]

never let Farrell go. Namgis

He's going to do great things for T.O.

If they don't already regret it, they soon will.

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Kemp is still a beast. I wish I got more Dodgers games in my area. I would be nice seeing him play.

I love him here. He's done some really smart things this year. I can't point to a lose and say "Farrell should have done ______". He's pinch hit and pinch ran in the right spots, moved people in the batting order depending on LH or RH, left his pitchers out as long as they can, used the bullpen like he promised he would, with assigned roles. I think he's already improved over last year. He didn't really do those things last year. It helps players like Lawrie and EE are playing like they are so he can put them anywhere, and that the bullpen was redesigned. I think Boston DOES regret it. Even if no one will really admit it, I think they seriously wanted him as their manager this year like the rumors suggested.
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#174 Racer_XLR
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http://twitter.com/#!/DCameronFG/status/192431496764731394 Jamie Moyer is younger than Mark Melancon's ERA. The guy's ERA is 49.50. 49.50. Closer material.
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Love this trainwreck, who knows if the new GM is any good, they couldn't pitch at the end of last year, Ellsbury has to be signed and who knows if he walks, i would not have walked into that job, NTM the media and whining you're gonna get from the fans. In hockey the no BS coach who tells it like it is such as Darryl Sutter who can get a team going seems to work, esp. in a team that goes under the radar, but with the sense of entitlement in Boston and drama queen players it seems, no way! They're going to call for your firing in no time, even if the truth is the team just isn't that good. I'm sure plenty of teams have eaten/drank in the clubhouse, but nobody ever made a big deal about it, bunch of fake drama cause they need something to blame. Hamilton almost hits the red seat in Fenway with monster shot http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=20705941&query=%26game_pk%3D317897 Definitely not the right time to be playing that team. If anyone should be angry it's the Braves fans, they brought in a relief pitcher to throw a bunch of breaking balls, even the announcer said "the thing with breaking balls is it's hard to throw 4 or 5 good ones in a row" and sure thing the next one gets hit out of the park by the Met :lol: Who ordered he throw the same pitch over and over? Never seen anything like that so i'm guessing it was Fredi....... I was waiting for our closer to blow a save, just to see all the lulzyness on Twitter.........even better people are attacking "Da MVP" Matt (6HR .487BA 1.026SLG 1.548OPS) Kemp over the loss :lol: He has the most "saves" so far this year, but of course it's nothing special, there's even a report showing he had the easiest saves in baseball but people love to get worked up over that thing. Then there's Kenley Jansen who throws pure fire, one of the best relievers in baseball since coming up (and he converted from catcher just a few weeks before he did) blew a save the other day and people are jumping on the guy saying "he doesn't have what it takes to be a closer" "OMG another Broxton". Don't tell them Broxton was one of the best relievers in Dodgers history, this stuff is just hilarious. You aren't paying them big money and sometimes you just don't shut the door, it's just one variable on the team. Completely ignoring the other screw ups that could have won you the game, NTM the GM doing a crummy job of assembling the team. Let teams with overpriced closers whine about it. Go O's! Go Nats!
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The Red Soxs suck so much I'm not even mad, its hilarious. The laughing stock of the league two seasons in a row.

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#177 TonyDanzaFan
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Listening to the Dodger's blow the game yesterday ruined my sleep. :( At least the Yankees won. The $15 MLB Ipad app is pretty cool. You can listen to any game home or away and actually watch the game of the day. I would've gotten the MLBtv premium, but I got the package from my cable company instead.
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#178 TonyDanzaFan
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Trumbo may hit, but he can't field. Future Adam Dunn if anything.

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Do you not realize how hard it is to learn a position that you've never played before? Third base is one of the hardest positions to play, and it's not surprising that he is having some difficulties.
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#179 Oleg_Huzwog
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It's official. Jamie Moyer is now the oldest pitcher in baseball history to earn a win. 6 hits, 2 walks, 2 runs (both unearned) scattered over 7 innings.

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#180 Master_Live
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[QUOTE="Master_Live"]

Trumbo may hit, but he can't field. Future Adam Dunn if anything.

TonyDanzaFan
Do you not realize how hard it is to learn a position that you've never played before? Third base is one of the hardest positions to play, and it's not surprising that he is having some difficulties.

The dude is a stiff. Being a DH isn't that bad.
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#181 Seabas989
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Wow the Nationals are 10-3.

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#182 X360PS3AMD05
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Fun with Moyer http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2012/04/more-fun-with-moyer.html I would have kept him around just for the lulz, i mean you already have a solid pitching staff and you expect a 5th starter to be mediocre anyway............who knows maybe the Phils wouldn't be in last place? lol Hey JohnBean, you know this guy? :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=afWSFHeUU9o
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Matt Cain throws 9 scoreless innings. Cliff Lee throws 10. Giants eventually beat the Phillies 1-0 in a walkoff in the bottom of the 11th. Quite possibly the greatest April game ever played.

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Curtis Granderson has 3 HR's tonight and is coming up at least two more times to try for the 4th.
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Voting now under way for 2012 MLB All-star game.

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Link

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Really? We're 13 games into the season. They should just have a 3 week period to cast votes prior to the game.

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"I used to work for NBC (covering the Olympics) and ABC Sports (before they killed that brand). Now I run my own television and movie studio that cuts trailers and episodes and so on. The biggest offenders by far when interfering with journalistic integrity, that I saw, were usually the sponsors (at least in sports media). This was especially true for the Olympic Games where the corporate dollar was like an unstoppable supernatural force. But Id still say that 90% of reporters that I worked with were more interested in being part of the story than objectively reporting a story. They wanted to talk about their own opinions rather than report only facts and let the readers or viewers make up their own minds. I was told once that Harold Reynolds was fired from ESPN because he attacked the sponsors after a taping of Baseball Tonight. And that the whole event of him trying to molest an intern or whatever was ESPN smearing him, because he used to hammer the corporate brass for talking down to him and giving him orders. He was told to stick to the script and not go off the prompter. The way that ESPN would do BBTN is that theyd do a segment like Who deserves the Cy Young? Sponsored by Fast Food Joint, and each broadcaster was assigned a player to talk about by a segment producer. So HR was assigned to someone (I think it was Mariano Rivera) who didnt deserve the award looking at the stats, and he went off the prompter and didnt follow the script and chose a different player. Most reporters right now want to be on Around The Horn or whatever scream at the top of your lungs to win an argument program is hot this week. It is never about attacking stories objectively. Now it is always about finding the angle that will get the most attention. The line between reporter and talking head is getting smaller and smaller every year and its extremely difficult to find reporters that dont crowbar their opinions into articles for the sole sake of getting their own views out into the world. Even worse is that those shows often consist of zero factual evidence or deep analysis and they often reduce immense subjects into bumper sticker arguments and catch phrases. PTI essentially prides itself on never covering a topic for more than a few minutes. Look at the Bernie Fine case. ESPN did everything in its power to compare that case to the Sandusky incident. Often drawing direct parallels that implied or outright stated that the same acts that Sandusky was accused of were the same things that Fine was doing behind the scenes. And it looks as if ESPN deliberately manufactured false evidence in one case by putting two accusers who had never met in touch with each other so that they could cook up a story. ESPNs comment boards on its site are filled with fans ripping on ESPNs for flooding the news with lies and irresponsible reporting. Im not saying that Bob Hohler is deliberately making things up with no basis in reality. But he is clearly manufacturing a story to fit the most compelling narrative. It is highly telling that the overwhelming majority of on the record comments regarding Franconas behavior as manager are either neutral or positive. And that the off of the record and anonymous comments try to shred him to pieces. And those anonymous sources are so vaguely described that they are probably not more than two or three people, but the article is so deliberately ambiguous that it seems like Francona has an army of detractors. When you hide behind a screen, anonymity, there is no accountability. You can exaggerate and the reporters will print it because it sells like crazy and raises the reporters profile. Bob Hohler basically was the one journalist who would print the allegations against Francona to fit the narrative that the anonymous accusers wanted. Was it irresponsible journalism? I would say yes. Simply because everyone on record supports Francona, and he vehemently denied all of the negatives that were attributed to him. It seems like someone had a personal or professional vendetta against Francona and Bob Hohler gave them an outlet to blast him in the media. And whats worse is that those anonymous accusers can have their arguments augmented by the associated with a major newspaper. Honestly Ive never been impressed by the mainstream MLB media. During the steroids era I watched as every single writer turned a blind eye to the giant enormous bodies that players had. When Bonds was breaking the record and putting up OPS and IBB/BB numbers that made my head explode like Scanners I couldnt fathom how the beat reporters didnt realize that he was juicing like crazy. Thats why I stick to places like Fangraphs or Rob Neyers home at SBN. Id much rather read the objective statistical approach to baseball than the screaming ranting lunatic talking head reporters who blindly stumbled through the steroids era. Please someone bring back FireJoeMorgan." Found this on Fangraphs and found it interesting.
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Voting now under way for 2012 MLB All-star game.

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Really? We're 13 games into the season. They should just have a 3 week period to cast votes prior to the game.

Namgis

I was watching the Sox game yesterday, and the baseline reporter or whatever said "Go online and vote for your favorite Red Sox". Umm...that not the point. Sadly to most, that's what they do. But it isn't the point of the All-Star Game.

Whatever, many have complained about it before. It's too early, some players aren't playing to the level that they usually do.

Drew Hutchison makes his MLB debut for the Jays tonight. A lot of hype around him, AA called him probably the best starting prospect we have. And it isn't a 1 and done thing..he should be here a while. I don't know what they'll do when McGowan is ready if Hutchison, Alvarez, and Drabek are all pitching very well. And not injured. We'll see.

Brett Cecil has really fallen down the depth chart....Hutch, Jenkins, Carreno, McGuire, the injured McGowan and a couple more are all ahead of him right now. Not sure if we'll see him before September.

Travis Snider is playing really well in AAA. Hitting .431 with 18 RBIs, a .745 slugging percentage and also has a .508 on-base percentage, seven doubles, 12 runs scored and eight walks. When will we see him, and when we do...will he FINALLY perform at a level even close to that?

On an off-Jays note...how bout the Nats? They lead the MLB with a starter ERA of 1.94 and are 12-4. Excellent rotation and a pretty good lineup that isn't playing to full potential...or so I read.

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#188 Master_Live
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Lets see who get the 1st base vote: Pujols, Fielder, Adrian Gonzalez, Teixeira, Konerko, Morneau(coming along).
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#189 JohnBean42
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I can't beleive what I watched this afternoon. The Sox pen is absolute f***ing garbage. Fans booing Bobby V....this wasn't his fault. Just wow.

And now he's in a meeting with the GM and owner.

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Cain is a great pitcher. Votto is an all around great player.
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Lets see who get the 1st base vote: Pujols, Fielder, Adrian Gonzalez, Teixeira, Konerko, Morneau(coming along). Master_Live
You can cross out the last two.
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#192 KlickKlick
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I can't beleive what I watched this afternoon. The Sox pen is absolute f***ing garbage. Fans booing Bobby V....this wasn't his fault. Just wow.

And now he's in a meeting with the GM and owner.

JohnBean42
I am a Sox fan 100%, but I have to agree with you on this one. Very sad too say the least. By the way Joey Batts, is one of my favorite players.
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#193 JohnBean42
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[QUOTE="JohnBean42"]

I can't beleive what I watched this afternoon. The Sox pen is absolute f***ing garbage. Fans booing Bobby V....this wasn't his fault. Just wow.

And now he's in a meeting with the GM and owner.

KlickKlick
I am a Sox fan 100%, but I have to agree with you on this one. Very sad too say the least. By the way Joey Batts, is one of my favorite players.

He is one of mine too. Gotta pick it up this year though. At thrid base, I think it's between Longoria and Cabrera. But I think Lawrie gets a ton of support from Jays fans. Helps he's Canadian.
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#194 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"] And what is Delmon Young doing out there? http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/04/gifcap-delmon-young-zero-tool-player/Namgis

I haven't seen too many plays like that first gif in a while. Good to see pros looking like little leaguers.

Well, at least he stopped the ball. :P I'm happy he's at least playing well on the other end. Just got to remember to put my remote down when a fly ball's coming at him.
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#195 KlickKlick
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[QUOTE="KlickKlick"][QUOTE="JohnBean42"]

I can't beleive what I watched this afternoon. The Sox pen is absolute f***ing garbage. Fans booing Bobby V....this wasn't his fault. Just wow.

And now he's in a meeting with the GM and owner.

JohnBean42
I am a Sox fan 100%, but I have to agree with you on this one. Very sad too say the least. By the way Joey Batts, is one of my favorite players.

He is one of mine too. Gotta pick it up this year though. At thrid base, I think it's between Longoria and Cabrera. But I think Lawrie gets a ton of support from Jays fans. Helps he's Canadian.

He is off to a slow start, but he will still finish the year with close to 40 dingers and 110-130 Rbi's. I think Lawrie is a great player I would put him very close with Longoria.
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#196 JohnBean42
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[QUOTE="JohnBean42"][QUOTE="KlickKlick"] I am a Sox fan 100%, but I have to agree with you on this one. Very sad too say the least. By the way Joey Batts, is one of my favorite players.KlickKlick
He is one of mine too. Gotta pick it up this year though. At thrid base, I think it's between Longoria and Cabrera. But I think Lawrie gets a ton of support from Jays fans. Helps he's Canadian.

He is off to a slow start, but he will still finish the year with close to 40 dingers and 110-130 Rbi's. I think Lawrie is a great player I would put him very close with Longoria.

I have him finishing about there too. Especially if Lind/Encanacion play very well behind him.

I wouldn't put him there year, I mean...Longoria is a GG 3B who does a lot of great things, and has been here a while. Lawrie plays the game hard and will be a great player, if he isn't already. Was ranked the 9th best 3B by Keith Law I beleive.

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I can't beleive what I watched this afternoon. The Sox pen is absolute f***ing garbage. Fans booing Bobby V....this wasn't his fault. Just wow.

And now he's in a meeting with the GM and owner.

JohnBean42

I would be booing him if I was there as well. The pen may not be his fault, but I don't think he commands the respect of the players and I feel like he will lose the team.

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#198 JohnBean42
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[QUOTE="JohnBean42"]

I can't beleive what I watched this afternoon. The Sox pen is absolute f***ing garbage. Fans booing Bobby V....this wasn't his fault. Just wow.

And now he's in a meeting with the GM and owner.

sherman-tank1

I would be booing him if I was there as well. The pen may not be his fault, but I don't think he commands the respect of the players and I feel like he will lose the team.

I understand why the fans boo. Team doing bad, blow a big lead, and those comments..easy to point finger..or your boos. Happens in all sports. My only real experience with it was with the Leafs and booing Wilson under the same circumstance. I don't agree with it. Especially at this point in the season.

Cherington said tonight he's doing what he can do with the team he was given. And maybe it's just not a very good team. Marlon Byrd won't help.

Maybe he will lose the team. It's still early. And the start to his tenure sure hasn't helped. But I don't think he's done anything that directly leads to them losing. Not the pen. Not Lester and Buchholz under performing. Not Elisbury's injury. I don't know though, maybe he has mismanged, I don't watch them that much.

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I understand why the fans boo. Team doing bad, blow a big lead, and those comments..easy to point finger..or your boos. Happens in all sports. My only real experience with it was with the Leafs and booing Wilson under the same circumstance. I don't agree with it. Especially at this point in the season.

Cherington said tonight he's doing what he can do with the team he was given. And maybe it's just not a very good team. Marlon Byrd won't help.

Maybe he will lose the team. It's still early. And the start to his tenure sure hasn't helped. But I don't think he's done anything that directly leads to them losing. Not the pen. Not Lester and Buchholz under performing. Not Elisbury's injury. I don't know though, maybe he has mismanged, I don't watch them that much.

JohnBean42

Yeah he isn't very good at managing pitchers. He is not being a good leader as well. Red Sox players are underpreforming and he has failed to deal with that in the correct way.

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#200 JohnBean42
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[QUOTE="JohnBean42"]

I understand why the fans boo. Team doing bad, blow a big lead, and those comments..easy to point finger..or your boos. Happens in all sports. My only real experience with it was with the Leafs and booing Wilson under the same circumstance. I don't agree with it. Especially at this point in the season.

Cherington said tonight he's doing what he can do with the team he was given. And maybe it's just not a very good team. Marlon Byrd won't help.

Maybe he will lose the team. It's still early. And the start to his tenure sure hasn't helped. But I don't think he's done anything that directly leads to them losing. Not the pen. Not Lester and Buchholz under performing. Not Elisbury's injury. I don't know though, maybe he has mismanged, I don't watch them that much.

sherman-tank1

Yeah he isn't very good at managing pitchers. He is not being a good leader as well. Red Sox players are underpreforming and he has failed to deal with that in the correct way.

I have read he's put certain guys out there he shouldn't have.Tomorrows game, and the few after that, will be a big test of the team to see how they respond to what happened yesterday. It'll really show what kind of manager he is, how he pull them out of what he calls "rock bottom"