(10 at Gamespot) Official GTA thread - Keep it here or face SUSPENSION!

[QUOTE="buuzer0"]

I :lol:'d at the "Doom Tree" shown on the previous page.

I'm still getting the 360 game though! ;) None of my friends have a PS3, and neither do I.

dhjohns

Most of my friends are on XBL as well. I am worried about these pop-in videos. I only hope it is all exaggerated.

just watch the GT or IGN 360 video reviews.. they should put your mind at ease. those other gifs are from neogaf, with a version running from a 360 HDD... i mean seriously. the HDD takes 10 seconds to load current player stats for NHL 08.. i'm sure it also has trouble pulling graphical assets with any speed :)

Soo...the PS3 runs @ 630p and the Xbox runs at 720p, PS3 has warmer colours but no AA and some framerate drops here and there. Very few pop ins for the PS3 while 360 has a bit more pop ins.

I was just on neogaf, and apparently that "tree of doom" is a glitch by the looks of it, because only dot50cal with his dev kit xbox and loaded the game on his HDD has been able to produce that, others can't seem to do the same. So I, in my opinion, have come to the conclusion that it is his xbox360 alone or a very minor glitch that every has erupted into. I was here last night, you know what I'm talking about fanboys.

Amazon.co.uk items (Sold by Amazon EU S.a.r.L.):

1 Grand Theft Auto IV (PS3) £34.99 1 £34.99

Shipped via Royal Mail (estimated arrival date: 29-April-2008).

Woot cant wait.

Soo...the PS3 runs @ 630p and the Xbox runs at 720p, PS3 has warmer colours but no AA and some framerate drops here and there. Very few pop ins for the PS3 while 360 has a bit more pop ins.

I was just on neogaf, and apparently that "tree of doom" is a glitch by the looks of it, because only dot50cal with his dev kit xbox and loaded the game on his HDD has been able to produce that, others can't seem to do the same. So I, in my opinion, have come to the conclusion that it is his xbox360 alone or a very minor glitch that every has erupted into. I was here last night, you know what I'm talking about fanboys.

Taiko88

link for the 630p on PS3?

12 hours to go!!! The wait, I can't take it. :cry:dhjohns

i know eh. i'm kind of wishing i stayed up all night and just slept through the day today.. :(

[QUOTE="dhjohns"]12 hours to go!!! The wait, I can't take it. :cry:3picuri3

i know eh. i'm kind of wishing i stayed up all night and just slept through the day today.. :(

Sad thing is, I am at work and have a lot to do, but could care less. Got GTA4 on the brain. :P

Fellow SW'ers, join me in a moment of silence for the original version of one of the greatest threads in SW history...

:cry:

[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

[QUOTE="tonythestudent"]Its a shame people cant just ignore the differences and just enjoy whichever version they are getting. Is this what gaming has come to?Floppy_Jim

I don't know why, but is seems to be particularly bad this gen, with all the ridiculous screenshot comparisons- "The PS3 version has 5 more pixels!!!!" and "The 360 version has 1 better texture!!!!!" etc.....

In the past, its been a one horse race where one console is the clear winner and there is no support for other consoles since the market wasn't large enough. This gen, the market is so large that multiple competitors can co-exist and can be on equal terms, so this creates competition. If anything, this competition will mean game advancements will come more often than in the past. As multi-console owners, we can only benefit from the in-fighting in the market :D

Ah, that's true, competition can only be a good thing in this industry. And us PS360 owners are the only true winners!

We're like America in WW1 before they got involved in the war. Selling weapons and loaning money to both sides and reaping the rewards of their technological advancements but not actually losing out in many ways at all............

I don't know which to get :(

360 version = DLC + custom music

PS3 version = less pop-in

idunno what to do! :cry:

[QUOTE="Taiko88"]

Soo...the PS3 runs @ 630p and the Xbox runs at 720p, PS3 has warmer colours but no AA and some framerate drops here and there. Very few pop ins for the PS3 while 360 has a bit more pop ins.

I was just on neogaf, and apparently that "tree of doom" is a glitch by the looks of it, because only dot50cal with his dev kit xbox and loaded the game on his HDD has been able to produce that, others can't seem to do the same. So I, in my opinion, have come to the conclusion that it is his xbox360 alone or a very minor glitch that every has erupted into. I was here last night, you know what I'm talking about fanboys.

3picuri3

link for the 630p on PS3?

so far it's a rumor, but it could be true..

there is also a rumor that the 360 version has more dithering in colours..

there is an insane topic on Neogaf about these things...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286527

a quote:

Well I've just got back from the midnight launch at my local EB here in Australia.

I've put 4 hours into a friends copy of the 360 version game on the same TV that I'm now playing the PS3 version on.

Just some quick observations

-PS3 image is softer, but doesn't look "low res"
-Shadows and distant objects look less "dotty" than 360 version.
-Framerate seems slightly less consistant than 360 version particularly noticeable with the character animations during cutscenes and the intro.
-PS3 seems to have zero antialiasing. On the 360, the 2xAA was clearly visible on stairsteps (you could see the averaged pixels) on the PS3 I can't see any antialiasing being applied at all. However the softer IQ tends to hide the aliasing.

No pop-in of any note, umm noted :) But then I never noticed any on the 360 version (Wasn't looking)

I would say overall I prefered the PS3 image. The 360 looks quite harsh in comparison and exibits alot of artifacting but on the other hand it's also sharper and more vibrant.

Just my 2 cents.

Ugh, why do my exams have to start tomorrow? :(

My copy is going to just sit there and taunt me until May 14th most likely :(

I'm going to get it for the Xbox 360. I have more friends on there and my siblings are on there. Also I like features like custom sound tracks, achievements, rumble, everyone have headsets, and all the statistics Xbox Live offers you right now. I also like the fact the 360 version will have exclusive episodic content.

When I compare the 360 version to the PS3 version, the PS3 version is just missing alot of features. Features like no custom sound track, no rumble (you will need to buy new controllers, DS3, $55+ bucks), no achievements, no standard headsets, and no exclusive DLC. The PS3 offers a GTA IV bundle, but it doesn't include headsets, so expect alot of noobs running around not playing the game like it's suppose to in the mulitplayer in this openworld game.

Everyone says both are identical and these slight minor graphical differences aren't even anything to worry about. It's like GTA IV is a master piece delicious flavor of ice cream, both 360 and PS3 will get a scoop, but only the 360 will have exclusive espisodic content extra scoops with a cherry on top.

I don't know which to get :(

360 version = DLC + custom music

PS3 version = less pop-in

idunno what to do! :cry:

Dreams-Visions

There't no custom soundtrack option. You can stream music from your Xbox 360 music collection, but it plays over the GTA sound.

I don't know which to get :(

360 version = DLC + custom music

PS3 version = less pop-in

idunno what to do! :cry:

Dreams-Visions

2 reasons vs 1.

2 > 1

:P

[QUOTE="Taiko88"]

Soo...the PS3 runs @ 630p and the Xbox runs at 720p, PS3 has warmer colours but no AA and some framerate drops here and there. Very few pop ins for the PS3 while 360 has a bit more pop ins.

I was just on neogaf, and apparently that "tree of doom" is a glitch by the looks of it, because only dot50cal with his dev kit xbox and loaded the game on his HDD has been able to produce that, others can't seem to do the same. So I, in my opinion, have come to the conclusion that it is his xbox360 alone or a very minor glitch that every has erupted into. I was here last night, you know what I'm talking about fanboys.

3picuri3

link for the 630p on PS3?

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1153806&postcount=513

Here you go. Mind you he also was the one who counted the Halo 3 and COD4 pixels as well.

Oh and to DreamVisions, stop being such a fanboy/troll, stop complaining about a few more pop-ins. Honestly...buy the one you have more friends on.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Taiko88"]

Soo...the PS3 runs @ 630p and the Xbox runs at 720p, PS3 has warmer colours but no AA and some framerate drops here and there. Very few pop ins for the PS3 while 360 has a bit more pop ins.

I was just on neogaf, and apparently that "tree of doom" is a glitch by the looks of it, because only dot50cal with his dev kit xbox and loaded the game on his HDD has been able to produce that, others can't seem to do the same. So I, in my opinion, have come to the conclusion that it is his xbox360 alone or a very minor glitch that every has erupted into. I was here last night, you know what I'm talking about fanboys.

Taiko88

link for the 630p on PS3?

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1153806&postcount=513

Here you go. Mind you he also was the one who counted the Halo 3 and COD4 pixels as well.

well he was right with both of those :) so if its the same guy i'd say it's reliable. but i'm not one to care too much about missing pixels.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

I don't know which to get :(

360 version = DLC + custom music

PS3 version = less pop-in

idunno what to do! :cry:

donwoogie

There't no custom soundtrack option. You can stream music from your Xbox 360 music collection, but it plays over the GTA sound.

isn't it a ... shame anyway to do that?.. the soundtrack and radiostations are what ads to the believability of the city... and they are great to i read... great soundtrack...

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Taiko88"]

Soo...the PS3 runs @ 630p and the Xbox runs at 720p, PS3 has warmer colours but no AA and some framerate drops here and there. Very few pop ins for the PS3 while 360 has a bit more pop ins.

I was just on neogaf, and apparently that "tree of doom" is a glitch by the looks of it, because only dot50cal with his dev kit xbox and loaded the game on his HDD has been able to produce that, others can't seem to do the same. So I, in my opinion, have come to the conclusion that it is his xbox360 alone or a very minor glitch that every has erupted into. I was here last night, you know what I'm talking about fanboys.

Taiko88

link for the 630p on PS3?

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1153806&postcount=513

Here you go. Mind you he also was the one who counted the Halo 3 and COD4 pixels as well.

Lol, lets not get into this again!

When an article site posts this information, then I'll take it as factual.

[QUOTE="Taiko88"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Taiko88"]

Soo...the PS3 runs @ 630p and the Xbox runs at 720p, PS3 has warmer colours but no AA and some framerate drops here and there. Very few pop ins for the PS3 while 360 has a bit more pop ins.

I was just on neogaf, and apparently that "tree of doom" is a glitch by the looks of it, because only dot50cal with his dev kit xbox and loaded the game on his HDD has been able to produce that, others can't seem to do the same. So I, in my opinion, have come to the conclusion that it is his xbox360 alone or a very minor glitch that every has erupted into. I was here last night, you know what I'm talking about fanboys.

3picuri3

link for the 630p on PS3?

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1153806&postcount=513

Here you go. Mind you he also was the one who counted the Halo 3 and COD4 pixels as well.

well he was right with both of those :) so if its the same guy i'd say it's reliable. but i'm not one to care too much about missing pixels.

it might even cause the more smoother look, because 630P upscaled to 720P or 1080i will make it look smoother. (or blurry.:P).

[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

I don't know which to get :(

360 version = DLC + custom music

PS3 version = less pop-in

idunno what to do! :cry:

Always-Honest

There't no custom soundtrack option. You can stream music from your Xbox 360 music collection, but it plays over the GTA sound.

isn't it a ... shame anyway to do that?.. the soundtrack and radiostations are what ads to the believability of the city... and they are great to i read... great soundtrack...

Moreover, if you have music playing, you'd need to turn the ingame radio off and mute the soundtrack everytime you had a mission breifing or phone call.

[QUOTE="Taiko88"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Taiko88"]

Soo...the PS3 runs @ 630p and the Xbox runs at 720p, PS3 has warmer colours but no AA and some framerate drops here and there. Very few pop ins for the PS3 while 360 has a bit more pop ins.

I was just on neogaf, and apparently that "tree of doom" is a glitch by the looks of it, because only dot50cal with his dev kit xbox and loaded the game on his HDD has been able to produce that, others can't seem to do the same. So I, in my opinion, have come to the conclusion that it is his xbox360 alone or a very minor glitch that every has erupted into. I was here last night, you know what I'm talking about fanboys.

donwoogie

link for the 630p on PS3?

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1153806&postcount=513

Here you go. Mind you he also was the one who counted the Halo 3 and COD4 pixels as well.

Lol, lets not get into this again!

When an article site posts this information, then I'll take it as factual.

he was right about the other ones - i mean it doesn't take a genius to count pixels :) that said he does say he thinks GTA4 proves pixel count doesn't make a heck of a lot of difference.

[QUOTE="room420"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

um - thats from back when they though the DLC was 2 extra missions, heh. like my link - this is old and pretty unreliable.

cakeorrdeath

How does the age of the article make it unreliable. The blatant dismissal of the information presented without any facts to back it up is in poor style. The article presents information on the financial transaction between MS and R*, as far as I know there have been no statements from a reliable source released that contradict this, If there are please feel free to post them. I am more than happy to be proved wrong, but without evidence in opposition the article retains its relevance regardless of its age.

I believe the word "significant" has been used dozens of times by MS and rockstar reps since.

On a side note 3picuri3 was the first person to bring up the fact PS3 would be getting some sort of DLC content. Which speaks volumes.

"Significant " is a subjective term, and in no way indicates the size or content of the DLC. Considering there has not been any DLC released for previous console GTA's, "any" DLC can be considered "significant". I should have edited out my speculation on the size of the DLC in my original post. The point of my post was to clarify the financial transaction. MS did not pay 50 mil for two episodes, if this article is correct. The conclusions one would draw from this information falls under speculation, however these details coupled with R*'s history concerning exclusivity make an interesting argument. Once again I ask for evidence to the contrary.

On a side note- How does that speak volumes?

3picuri3,

I agree that Patchers speculation on the content and the specific terms of exclusivity are just that, "speculation". His explanation of the financial transaction, given his position, however I can find no reason not to believe.

"Significant " is a subjective term, and in no way indicates the size or content of the DLC. Considering there has not been any DLC released for previous console GTA's, "any" DLC can be considered "significant". I should have edited out my speculation on the size of the DLC in my original post. The point of my post was to clarify the financial transaction. MS did not pay 50 mil for two episodes, if this article is correct. The conclusions one would draw from this information falls under speculation, however these details coupled with R*'s history concerning exclusivity make an interesting argument. Once again I ask for evidence to the contrary.

On a side note- How does that speak volumes?

3picuri3,

I agree that Patchers speculation on the content and the specific terms of exclusivity are just that, "speculation". His explanation of the financial transaction, given his position, however I can find no reason not to believe.

room420

his explanation of the financial contract are also speculation - nobody but R* and MS know the particulars of the deal from my understanding.

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

I don't know which to get :(

360 version = DLC + custom music

PS3 version = less pop-in

idunno what to do! :cry:

donwoogie

There't no custom soundtrack option. You can stream music from your Xbox 360 music collection, but it plays over the GTA sound.

isn't it a ... shame anyway to do that?.. the soundtrack and radiostations are what ads to the believability of the city... and they are great to i read... great soundtrack...

Moreover, if you have music playing, you'd need to turn the ingame radio off and mute the soundtrack everytime you had a mission breifing or phone call.

no you dont have to you can lower the volume of the music and make the game volume higher

[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

I don't know which to get :(

360 version = DLC + custom music

PS3 version = less pop-in

idunno what to do! :cry:

ParadiddleFill

There't no custom soundtrack option. You can stream music from your Xbox 360 music collection, but it plays over the GTA sound.

isn't it a ... shame anyway to do that?.. the soundtrack and radiostations are what ads to the believability of the city... and they are great to i read... great soundtrack...

Moreover, if you have music playing, you'd need to turn the ingame radio off and mute the soundtrack everytime you had a mission breifing or phone call.

no you dont have to you can lower the volume of the music and make the game volume higher

Meh, I suppose, I just wish they had the custom radio station like other GTA games. Having said that, I never use the function since the in game radio is usually pitch perfect.

his explanation of the financial contract are also speculation - nobody but R* and MS know the particulars of the deal from my understanding.

3picuri3

I agree, the particulars, such as exclusivity and price are unknown. I do believe that his explanation was drawn from the publicized financial reports from R* and the conference call mentioned in the article of my OP. Without evidence to the contrary are we really in a position to dismiss this?

Anyway this discussion is ruining my status as a lurker, so thank you for your responses. I now return to the shadows.

Questions for the GTA Fans: Would you let your ten year old child play this game? If no, why not?Cute_Red_Panda

Questions for the GTA Fans: Would you let your ten year old child play this game? If no, why not?Cute_Red_Panda

No. Simply put it is too mature. I don't have kids, but I would want mine to be at least 13 to 14 before playing such a game. Even then... it is dicey.

Questions for the GTA Fans: Would you let your ten year old child play this game? If no, why not?Cute_Red_Panda

na no way kids are already messed up these days from the crap they show on tv

What time is it in the US people? 6 Hours to go here.Xbox360_4_Me

11 more hours here on the East coast. :cry:

Some idiot spoiled me for a major thing in the game. How lovelytherealmcc0y

[QUOTE="Xbox360_4_Me"]What time is it in the US people? 6 Hours to go here.dhjohns

11 more hours here on the East coast. :cry:

lol "Grand Theft Four Auto"

Fox news

[QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"]Questions for the GTA Fans: Would you let your ten year old child play this game? If no, why not?dhjohns

No. Simply put it is too mature. I don't have kids, but I would want mine to be at least 13 to 14 before playing such a game. Even then... it is dicey.

same. there's a certain age to expose children to this sort of stuff, and under 10 ain't it imo. i remember being pretty scarred by the live action Tarzan when I was a kid, heh.. kinda wish the parents were a bit more on top of that one. i got a half covered eye about 2 seconds after impalement by tusk.. think i was like 6 or 7

[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]Some idiot spoiled me for a major thing in the game. How lovelyjames28893

someone who dies

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

his explanation of the financial contract are also speculation - nobody but R* and MS know the particulars of the deal from my understanding.

room420

I agree, the particulars, such as exclusivity and price are unknown. I do believe that his explanation was drawn from the publicized financial reports from R* and the conference call mentioned in the article of my OP. Without evidence to the contrary are we really in a position to dismiss this?

Anyway this discussion is ruining my status as a lurker, so thank you for your responses. I now return to the shadows.

again - i never dismissed it. i just qualified it as unreliable, as is any analyst speculation imo. i said it's possible, and i stand by that. i just don't think it's reliable and i wouldn't place any wagers on it :) dismissing it would be saying 'oh thats total bs, no chance' :P

after seen videos and stuff anyone else thinking about going with multiplayer first? haha i prob wont but it looks so goodzero9167

[QUOTE="zero9167"]after seen videos and stuff anyone else thinking about going with multiplayer first? haha i prob wont but it looks so goodGunSmith1_basic

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure this time round the whole map is open from the off too, but I could be wrong.

CVG Reviews up:

PS3: 10

360: 9.5

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/search.php?channel=all&format=&query=gta+iv

CVG Reviews up:

PS3: 10

360: 9.5

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/search.php?channel=all&format=&query=gta+iv

Danger-Dog

What is there reasoning behind a 0.5 difference?

Thats is a pretty huge difference for two copies containing the exact same content.