1up review: 360 madden vs. PS3 madden (guess who won)

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[QUOTE="Ericvon71"]A whole .5 points............stop the presses the world is coming to an end!!!!p2rus

No the end of the world is not coming, but for Madden to be only 30 frames and have stuttering here and there is unacceptable. the PS3 is one powerful machine to have inferior games like that, regardless if its small or not.

did madden 07 for 360 have 30fps?

Yes

[QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Seriously, these are the guys who stealth edited the Killzone 2 article to display it in a poorer light and then denied they did so. Also the fact it runs at 30FPS is entirely due to EA's lazyness, Sony is doing it just fine guys..maybe you should have just cancelled it in your shame like you did that one Madden game for Playstation 1.Dreams-Visions

no matter how you want to paint them, the reality is simple and direct:

60fps >>>>>> 30fps.

if you can't get behind that truth, you're beyond our help here. it's almost inexcusable that a year later they STILL can't get 60fps out of the PS3...and as such, the PS3 version of their game was rightfully docked for it.

end of story.

Good thing Sony killed the dual HDMI output they promised. That thing would be struggling to get 5fps if it was doing 2 monitors.

"it's EA, what can you expect?" Yeah to bad APF 2K8 also only run at 30FPS on the PS3 and 60FPS on the 360, last i heard APF 2K8 had nothing to do with EA, sorry COWS your football dreams are over this year.swanlee

Won't they still be able to play the game at 30fps? Were 360 owners "football dreams" over in 06 or 07?

i dont get y this happens

isnt the ps3 more powerful?

or is it just bad programming when porting or something

i dont get y this happens

isnt the ps3 more powerful?

or is it just bad programming when porting or something

REforever101

Here's why it happened...PS3 is NOT more powerful where it counts--Gaming Power. In other words the cell is great for folding @ home and things like that, but most of its power is lost on game code. And the real issue here is the GPU. The GPU in the 360 is more powerful than the GPU in the PS3. And this proves it.

i dont get y this happens

isnt the ps3 more powerful?

or is it just bad programming when porting or something

REforever101

you hit it right on the spot

i dont get y this happens

isnt the ps3 more powerful?

or is it just bad programming when porting or something

REforever101

I don't think it's "bad" programming or what have you. It took 3 versions before the 360 was able to run the game at 60fps and it's easier to develope for than the PS3. Further why would EA put in the extra effort for a PS3 version with such a small userbase? It's not sensible economically. And the PS3 isn't more powerful than the 360, despite what Sony and its fans tell you.

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i dont get y this happens

isnt the ps3 more powerful?

or is it just bad programming when porting or something

mikasa

He's why it happened...PS3 is NOT more powerful where it counts--Gaming Power. In other words the cell is great for folding @ home and things like that, but most of its power is lost on game code. And the real issue here is the GPU. The GPU in the 360 is more powerful than the GPU in the PS3. And this proves it.

How does this prove it? If the 09 version of Madden is still at 30fps then you could make a case.

Holy **** 9.0!!!

Yes! I nknew it wold be good this year.

Holy **** 9.0!!!

Yes! I nknew it wold be good this year.

MikeE21286

In my biased Longhorn opinion, it should be 9.0 simply because the greatest college football player of all time is on the cover.

[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]But teh HDD limits game developers :|dracolich666

"bu bu but the blu-ray is needed!!"

"30fps and 60fps look the same!!11"

"bu but EA hates sony"

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i dont get y this happens

isnt the ps3 more powerful?

or is it just bad programming when porting or something

ramey70

He's why it happened...PS3 is NOT more powerful where it counts--Gaming Power. In other words the cell is great for folding @ home and things like that, but most of its power is lost on game code. And the real issue here is the GPU. The GPU in the 360 is more powerful than the GPU in the PS3. And this proves it.

How does this prove it? If the 09 version of Madden is still at 30fps then you could make a case.

Not by cow logic as they'd just say that proves how powerful the cel really is, but it's just very very very hard to get it to work for lazy devs. They will always blame devs.

How does this work then. At the very least this proves Sony lied about the PS3 being way more powerful than the 360 for gaming. If it was truly a lot more powerful you'd see that result from day 1. Think xbox vs. ps2.

"I wonder why everyone is ignoring the fact that Madden 06 and 07 ran at 30fps on the 360" Because this years Madden is 08? It's Sony's own damn fault for delaying the PS3 an extra year and their own fault for making it so hard to develop for. Time doesn't stop for Sony, we compare the hear and now.swanlee

Not only that...let's say the PS3 somehow manages to get 60fps next year. What makes the cows think the 360 devs won't continue to get better and make madden even better next year on the 360...once again leaving the cows with the excuse of a 1 year head-start.

meh . . i was hoping that EA would resove all of these types of issues with the PS3 version, but I guess not. This is a bit of a letdown on EA's part--they couldve done better.biggamerhk

Why should EA work much harder to satisfy such a small userbase?

What does the wii version run at 30 or 60 FPS ? cyprus646

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Holy **** 9.0!!!

Yes! I nknew it wold be good this year.

ramey70

In my biased Longhorn opinion, it should be 9.0 simply because the greatest college football player of all time is on the cover.

lol, I won't argue with you there.

As a madden player I'mglad it got a score

[QUOTE="biggamerhk"]meh . . i was hoping that EA would resove all of these types of issues with the PS3 version, but I guess not. This is a bit of a letdown on EA's part--they couldve done better.ramey70

Why should EA work much harder to satisfy such a small userbase?

uh . .it isnt so small anymore . . .

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Ericvon71"]A whole .5 points............stop the presses the world is coming to an end!!!!ramey70

Weren't the first two Madden games on the 360 locked at 30fps? Wouldn't it be prudent to give the same timeframe to the PS3?

yes but this is SW......anyways for me personally Madden is the same game every year and i could care less, but 360 did score higher and rightfully so.

bu bu bu btu the supercomputer cell processor. $600 of real next gen technology:( Nugtoka

Since when is it the PS3's fault the game sucks? I didn't know the system developed its own games....theres plenty of other 60fps games out there, explain to me how this 1 stupid game proves that it's PS3's fault???

TCHBO :lol:Pripyat

LOLZERS ROFLCOPTERs@!!!!!

You are so tough on teh iterweb!!!

That kind of stuff happens when Xbox 360 is the lead platform for the game and then gets ported over to a system with different specs:|

This is Madden anyway...who gives a crap...

That kind of stuff happens when Xbox 360 is the lead platform for the game and then gets ported over to a system with different specs:|

This is Madden anyway...who gives a crap...

Frexie

A LOT of people. Madden sells like crazy every year.

how would the consumer notice, no one really cares what frames the game running at.jukieuk

By word to mouth. My friend was considering buying a PS3 just to buy these football games NCAA and MADDEN. He's a casual gamer so he doesn't know as much. I told him Madden on the 360 would be better. He chose to buy the 360 even before I told him that because it was cheaper with the same and/or better graphics.

no matter how you want to paint them, the reality is simple and direct:

60fps >>>>>> 30fps.

if you can't get behind that truth, you're beyond our help here. it's almost inexcusable that a year later they STILL can't get 60fps out of the PS3...and as such, the PS3 version of their game was rightfully docked for it.

end of story.

Dreams-Visions

I'm not ignoring reality here, I just consider 9.0 for any Madden title since 94 to be ridiculous. I'm not arguing that 60FPS is worse than 30FPS, I'm just bringing up EA's general incompetence.

"I wonder why everyone is ignoring the fact that Madden 06 and 07 ran at 30fps on the 360" Because this years Madden is 08? It's Sony's own damn fault for delaying the PS3 an extra year and their own fault for making it so hard to develop for. Time doesn't stop for Sony, we compare the here and now.swanlee

indeed. EA is shamming.

Nice that the 360 version is better and I won't doubt that.

But honestly, we're talking about an american football game here, not something that needs alot of frames to look fluid. If one ran at a constant 30fps and the other at 60 fps you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. But it seems the ps3 version has trouble with the 30 frames it has.

This is definetly another developer issue and I dare guess the 360 is the home plaform which makes it another crappy port.

The ps3 can run games with alot more going on and better graphics better than this. Example F1, Ninja Gaiden (60fps+1080p) or motorstorm.

elcoholic

Uh...stopped listening to your ignorance right there.

No matter how you spin it, This Is Ownage!SpaceDragonMan

you are refering to the 60 fps vs. 30 fps right? because the 1up score means nothing here. Wait till GS scroes, THEN claim 'ownage'

[QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Seriously, these are the guys who stealth edited the Killzone 2 article to display it in a poorer light and then denied they did so.Kestastrophe

You have got to be kidding me.

Teh bias!!!

Well I didn't bring up the Killzone Liberation review and some of their other ****ups either (such as NWN2) but if you want me to...1up is overall just unprofessional.

I love these people probably stillliving in there moms house never have been part of a software development team or have to push a product out to market call a publisher lazy. Its not like they are going to push back madden because Sony totally made a Blue ray player that can't keep up with a console a year older and $200 cheaper. Nope Madden is coming out for hell or high water even if they have to downgrade it. I mean look at how many developers have to push there games back just to get it to work on the PS3 if any one is lazy it was Sony for making such a crippled console.

Nugtoka

I love these people that make gross assumptions about me because I point out Madden's crappiness over the years. Maybe they should you know..cancelled the Mac version or something if they really can't hack it, because lots of other developers seem to be delivering just fine within the given timeframe.

Also your comments about the PS3 show your ignorance towards it, but thats another discussion entirely.

[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]No matter how you spin it, This Is Ownage!Broman6015

you are refering to the 60 fps vs. 30 fps right? because the 1up score means nothing here. Wait till GS scroes, THEN claim 'ownage'

it's ownage. there is more in the world than gamespot. it's not going to get 60fps all of a sudden when gamespot reviews it

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[QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Seriously, these are the guys who stealth edited the Killzone 2 article to display it in a poorer light and then denied they did so.Runningflame570

You have got to be kidding me.

Teh bias!!!

Well I didn't bring up the Killzone Liberation review and some of their other ****ups either (such as NWN2) but if you want me to...1up is overall just unprofessional.

Good point and I resepect your opinion. They can be sketchy with their reviews, but I think that the 1up Show is great. However, I do mostly agree with their comments regarding Killzone 2.

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[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]No matter how you spin it, This Is Ownage!furtherfan

you are refering to the 60 fps vs. 30 fps right? because the 1up score means nothing here. Wait till GS scroes, THEN claim 'ownage'

it's ownage. there is more in the world than gamespot. it's not going to get 60fps all of a sudden when gamespot reviews it

i am aware. i am not dening that the 360 version is better, but what happen to all those people saying GS is all that matters? on SW at least....

"I wonder why everyone is ignoring the fact that Madden 06 and 07 ran at 30fps on the 360" Because this years Madden is 08? It's Sony's own damn fault for delaying the PS3 an extra year and their own fault for making it so hard to develop for. Time doesn't stop for Sony, we compare the here and now.swanlee

It's a double edge sword.....

360 came out 1 year early = Reliability Issues forever + Madden 60 FPS one year earlier

PS3 came out 1 year later = Reliable forever + Madden 60 FPS one year later

That's pretty much it.....

Too bad the ps2 and xbox versions will still be better.kool-aids

Xbox version? :| :lol:

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Ericvon71"]A whole .5 points............stop the presses the world is coming to an end!!!!ramey70

Yeah... Why can't this super powered $500-$600 system with Blu Ray ("blu ray is needed", right?), and the power of the cell outdo MS's "rushed" "inferior" machine? What's going on? Lazy devs, right? That's not our problem.

I'm not a fan of Madden, but I realize what a huge game it is.

What's crazy is I remember some Sony-lovers last year hyping Madden 07 as looking like real life and being so much better than the 360 version, and then it got released and looked nothing like the screenshots that they had seen.

Good point and I resepect your opinion. They can be sketchy with their reviews, but I think that the 1up Show is great. However, I do mostly agree with their comments regarding Killzone 2.

Kestastrophe

Well its nice to know we've reached at least that degree of agreement, I'm with you on this one, Killzone 2 has some very impressive things to it but the environmental geometry isn't quite there yet.

That being said I find parts of COD4 relatively unimpressive as well.

I feel sorry for PS3 Football fans,

Pay more and get less.

Play B3HIND

ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!?!?!?!!?

*Insert Monday Night Football Song*

[QUOTE="REforever101"]

i dont get y this happens

isnt the ps3 more powerful?

or is it just bad programming when porting or something

mikasa

Here's why it happened...PS3 is NOT more powerful where it counts--Gaming Power. In other words the cell is great for folding @ home and things like that, but most of its power is lost on game code. And the real issue here is the GPU. The GPU in the 360 is more powerful than the GPU in the PS3. And this proves it.

Don't listen to this guy LMAO, its bad programming.

[QUOTE="kool-aids"]Too bad the ps2 and xbox versions will still be better.buuzer0

Xbox version? :| :lol:

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Ericvon71"]A whole .5 points............stop the presses the world is coming to an end!!!!ramey70

Yeah... Why can't this super powered $500-$600 system with Blu Ray ("blu ray is needed", right?), and the powa of the cell (teh cell), outdo MS's "rushed" "inferior" machine? What's going on? Lazy devs, right? That's not our problem.

Is there even an xbox version this year?