1up review: 360 madden vs. PS3 madden (guess who won)

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#101 Runningflame570
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Is there even an xbox version this year?

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The only systems that are missing a version are GBA and Cell phones. :|

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#102 Blackbond
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Hah well that sucks. Doesn't matter anyones though. The competitive scene is on 360, The Madden Challenge is on 360, Sponsored Tournaments are on 360. Quite frankly if you're serious about this game like so many people are then you are buying it on.

The casual fanbasewill be on the PS2 still.

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#103 snyper1982
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I literally cannot wait. I'm calling friends trying to get an early copy and willing to pay a premium for it.

That Indy/Colts preseason game killed me last night. I wanted to play Madden so badly after it, I couldn't go to sleep. If I had to play the PS3 version I would deal with it, but Madden on my 360 at 60 fps is going to be like heaven.

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So the Colts played the Colts huh?

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#104 ReverseCycology
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I think the "lazy devs" excuse that cows give is one of the most ignorant excuses I've ever witness. Why would a game developer be lazy and waste their time and their own money in developing their games in all platforms!?! So you really need to get this "lazy devs" excuse out the door. Better yet, push that excuse at the 360th floor of a building. It's the hardwares fault, the PS3.

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#105 terdoo
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But teh HDD limits game developers :|thirstychainsaw

Well aparently not for this game :lol:

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#106 Silvereign
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wtf sony.... :evil:
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#107 Magical_Zebra
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360: 9.0

PS3: 8.5

The PS3 difference.
Sadly, just like with NCAA Football 08 and All-Pro Football 2K8, PS3 owners are stuck with an inferior version of Madden. While the game runs at 60 frames per second on Microsoft's box, Madden only clocks in at 30fps on Sony's console. The result? The gameplay isn't nearly as smooth as the 360 version and even stutters at times (see the difference in this comparison video). And that's the reason why we're scoring the PS3 edition slightly lower.

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3161872

inkybinkydonkey

I thought only GS scores count as far as ownage? With that said, due to GS score revision they will more than likely score the same....

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#108 rpg9000owner
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Elaborate on why this is an issue, considering Maddens target audience (casuals) hardly refer to *gaming* media outlets.

EDIT: Besides, I fail to see why people are claiming ownage. Last time I checked we only refer to Gamespot's scores for "teh pwnzor"

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#109 puissance000
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Oh no! what's happening here? the infamous blu-ray isn't cutting it ...:lol:
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#110 gamergeekgeek
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lol better luck next time cows :lol:
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#111 gamergeekgeek
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i like how cows scream "bu-but teh lazy devs, teh biased!" :lol:
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#112 Magical_Zebra
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Seriously, these are the guys who stealth edited the Killzone 2 article to display it in a poorer light and then denied they did so. Also the fact it runs at 30FPS is entirely due to EA's lazyness, Sony is doing it just fine guys..maybe you should have just cancelled it in your shame like you did that one Madden game for Playstation 1.zzzaaa

no matter how you want to paint them, the reality is simple and direct:

60fps >>>>>> 30fps.

if you can't get behind that truth, you're beyond our help here. it's almost inexcusable that a year later they STILL can't get 60fps out of the PS3...and as such, the PS3 version of their game was rightfully docked for it.

end of story.

Was it inexcusable that last years madden on 360 was only 30 fps? It was the second time madden was on the 360.

The devs just need time to learn the freakin hardware.

And the damage control and spin starts...... :shock:

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#113 gamergeekgeek
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rofl i thought PS3 was supposed to do 120fps and 4d?? how long till devs "unlock teh full potential" cows?
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#114 hongkingkong
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Oh well. Still not a bad score for the PS3 versionzzzaaa

It would be better if it weren't for the 30 fps.

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#115 -Rail_Man-
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lazy devs. oh well madden sucks anyways. it's for casuals.
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#116 ramey70
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rofl i thought PS3 was supposed to do 120fps and 4d?? how long till devs "unlock teh full potential" cows?gamergeekgeek

It took the same devs 3 years to get 60fps on the 360 version. Why not afford the PS3 the same amount of time?

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#117 DuDisNow
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So the 360 get another AAA...where the PS3 get another AA? Look at it like that?
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#118 Omnisystem
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Looks like Ill be playing it on my 360 :lol:
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#119 elementz28
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who fault is it the devlopers..
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#120 elementz28
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lazy devs. oh well madden sucks anyways. it's for casuals.-Rail_Man-

agreed..

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#121 ultima-flare
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I find this interesting. Aren't games suppose to be reviewed based on the power of the platform they are on? Yet all these publications act like ps3 and 360 multiplats need to be the same. Multiplats have generally been worse on ps3, so shouldn't reviewers lower their expectations for ps3 multiplats instead of acting like it needs to be identical to 360?

Of course, there is a theory on why Madden isn't 60fps on ps3...Now I am just saying this as a possibility cause MS has done some shady bussiness in the past. It is possible that MS paid EA for Madden ps3(and NCAA/APF[2k]) to be 30fps. There are three main supporting pieces of evidence to back up this claim:

1) No other 360/ps3 multiplat has suffered such a large difference in framerate before. Now it just so happens that the 3 big football franchises release and suffer this problem, while no other multiplats do. The first multiplats to experience this problem all happen to be the big selling football games..? Very curious ineed...

2) MS went out of their way at their E3 press confrence to brag how NCAA/Madden on 360 ran "twice as fast" as the ps3 versions. They would have to be pretty confident this was the case, to make such a claim(AKA they "made sure" only the 360 versions would be 60fps).

3) The 360 price drop timing. MS has said that they had this price drop planned for a long time(so they knew Madden would only be 30fps on ps3 for a long time?) to coincide with the launch of Madden '08. What better way to get more football fans to buy a 360 then make sure the 360 version of Madden was signifigantly superior on cheaper console.

Of course, that is all just speculation, and I don't think that is the real reason for the framerate differences. It is a possibility though. I still personally think the reason was that EA ran out of time to optimize the ps3 version. 360 was the lead platform for the game and by the time they got to working hard on the ps3 version, the release date was closing in(EA never delays their sports franchises).

EDIT: Apparently people having been missing out on the bolded part, so stop acting like im some kind of conspiracy theorist cow :| The theory was just something that I thought was funny, since it is a possibility(however unlikely).

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#122 svetzenlether
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it's EA, what can you expect?

It's not like less people will buy the game then if the PS3 version scored better.. So why try to make 2 equally good versions when you can simply do one good version and then making a cheap port to the other system..

Lol.. EA's Philosphy helps Microsoft....

omgimba

EA's done that for years! Ever since the Genesis days, they've put all the efforts into one platform and then port it over to another, usually dropping a bunch of features in the process.

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lazy devs. oh well madden sucks anyways. it's for casuals.-Rail_Man-

credibility is your friend, stop destroying it.

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#124 Kahuna_1
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Didnt EA say they werent going to try on the PS3 version because of the fanbase?(which funny enough is about the same if not more than the 360s fanbase this time last year).
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#125 Mystery_Writer
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every 2 hours some negative news about sony and the ps3 arrives.
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#126 gamergeekgeek
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every 2 hours some negative news about sony and the ps3 arrives.Mystery_Writer

dont worry, they're used to it by now

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#127 LosDaddie
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Microsoft really needs to hammer this into gamer's minds. This will sell x360s:D
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#128 Bdking57
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portstation FTL? This proves PS3s inferiority. I feel bad for anyone that paid $600.

360: 9.0

PS3: 8.5

The PS3 difference.
Sadly, just like with NCAA Football 08 and All-Pro Football 2K8, PS3 owners are stuck with an inferior version of Madden. While the game runs at 60 frames per second on Microsoft's box, Madden only clocks in at 30fps on Sony's console. The result? The gameplay isn't nearly as smooth as the 360 version and even stutters at times (see the difference in this comparison video). And that's the reason why we're scoring the PS3 edition slightly lower.

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3161872

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#129 LosDaddie
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2) MS went out of their way at their E3 press confrence to brag how NCAA/Madden on 360 ran "twice as fast" as the ps3 versions. They would have to be pretty confident this was the case, to make such a claim(AKA they "made sure" only the 360 versions would be 60fps).

3) The 360 price drop timing. MS has said that they had this price drop planned for a long time(so they knew Madden would only be 30fps on ps3 for a long time?) to coincide with the launch of Madden '08. What better way to get more football fans to buy a 360 then make sure the 360 version of Madden was signifigantly superior on cheaper console.

ultima-flare

Brilliant, brilliant marketing by Microsoft!:D

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#130 Bdking57
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so is ps3 is going to be playing catchup for the entire generation?

[QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"]rofl i thought PS3 was supposed to do 120fps and 4d?? how long till devs "unlock teh full potential" cows?ramey70

It took the same devs 3 years to get 60fps on the 360 version. Why not afford the PS3 the same amount of time?

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#131 MGS9150
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I dont like American football, it could have gotted a 1.0 for all I care.

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#132 Mystery_Writer
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ultima-flare

dude you need to post this interesting theory in a new thread.

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#133 ultima-flare
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Didnt EA say they werent going to try on the PS3 version because of the fanbase?(which funny enough is about the same if not more than the 360s fanbase this time last year).Kahuna_1

Well, Madden is only a big seller in the US. And the ps3 userbase in the US is like 1/2 of what the 360s was this time last year. Worldwide though, the ps3 userbase is about the same as the 360s userbase this time last year

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#134 ultima-flare
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NCAA '08 and APF2k8 on ps3 were also 30fps, but they got the same score as the 360 versions. Inconsistent reviews FTW!
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#135 swanlee
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Cows need to just give it up, you can't argue your way out of 30FPS being better than 60FPS. Your getting the worse version of multi plat games and to top it all off you had to pay hundreds of dollars more for the privilege of being screwed by Sony. I'm sorry you guys were dumb enough to be fooled by Sony yet again, but maybe you will learn your lesson this time around. In short COWS have been totally owned, humiliated and neutered this gen, you guys are taking lumps each and every week for your poor decision of buying a PS3. All the spin in the world won't reverse this trend. Your PS3 dreams are over, you have bought this gens Gamecube now just suck it up and sell your PS3 or deal with having the #3 console this gen.
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#136 Kahuna_1
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]Didnt EA say they werent going to try on the PS3 version because of the fanbase?(which funny enough is about the same if not more than the 360s fanbase this time last year).ultima-flare

Well, Madden is only a big seller in the US. And the ps3 userbase in the US is like 1/2 of what the 360s was this time last year. Worldwide though, the ps3 userbase is about the same as the 360s userbase this time last year

Oh yeah, I forgot Madden only sells in the states. My mistake.

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#137 Big_T-Mac
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the game that actually runs smoothly, without any hiccups in the framerate? oh hey, i'm right!
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#138 Magical_Zebra
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[QUOTE="-Rail_Man-"]lazy devs. oh well madden sucks anyways. it's for casuals.elementz28

agreed..

Railman your damage control fails. Although this score doesnt count because its not GS's score, had the PS3 version scored higher Im sure Madden wouldnt be "teh suxors" then now would it? :shock:

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#139 Nugtoka
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Here is the end of discussion. the Ps3 comes out a year late and $200 more expensive. according to Sony it was the only True Next gen device, a supercomputer that will blow way every thing you thought was next gen. Now here is the reality for as late and as much as they want for this console it HAD to literally blow the doors off the 360 crush it with its true next gen goodness. And here we are one year after its launch and its still struggling to keep up with the 360'sd performance. I'm of the opinion its "game over"for Sony WHY??? pay $200 more for a system with less games and worse performance. Hell even if it was on par with the 360 is wouldn't be worth. Its funny to see all the deluded cow making excuse after excuse for the Con that is Ps3.
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#140 Scarletred
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Cows need to just give it up, you can't argue your way out of 30FPS being better than 60FPS. Your getting the worse version of multi plat games and to top it all off you had to pay hundreds of dollars more for the privilege of being screwed by Sony. I'm sorry you guys were dumb enough to be fooled by Sony yet again, but maybe you will learn your lesson this time around. In short COWS have been totally owned, humiliated and neutered this gen, you guys are taking lumps each and every week for your poor decision of buying a PS3. All the spin in the world won't reverse this trend. Your PS3 dreams are over, you have bought this gens Gamecube now just suck it up and sell your PS3 or deal with having the #3 console this gen. swanlee

That's horrible logic. They get screwed because Ea and 2k made there games 30fps and the 360's 60fps? what about all the other games that are coming out?(in this I'm not arguing against framerates). I could easily say Lemmingas have been screwed over with a console that has a high failure rate, and has so many versions of it coming out that it screws the last guy who bought a 360 before the one with the hdmi port was announced. Also yes I do think it is a double-sided sword on this case. It isthe dev's fault for not getting it to 60fps. It is somewhat Sony's fault for making it so complex.Especially with the announcement from EA saying themselves that the 360 is easier to work with than the PS3. that's like me saying that the 360 fans have been screwed since they aren't getting player made mods for unreal.

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#141 Magical_Zebra
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Of course, there is a theory on why Madden isn't 60fps on ps3...Now I am just saying this as a possibility cause MS has done some shady bussiness in the past. It is possible that MS paid EA for Madden ps3(and NCAA/APF2k) to be 30fps.ultima-flare

Your conspiracy theory and bias FAILS with flying colors. You fanboys kill me. OMG M$ paid EA to make Madden 60fps and PS3 30FPS!! Teh conspiracy 4 j0o!!!

Whether it scored higher or not is a moot point because its NOT GS's SCORE!! What part do you people not understand that:

1. The cell is not living up to its hype because all of its power is still "theoretical"

2. The PS3 is going to have peformance issues. It doesnt mean that the games will look bad, just that the same games released for the 360 will "probably" look better.

Stop being the first ones to cry bias or conspiracy when things dont go your way. Makes all the cows look like damage control spinning fanboys.. :shock:

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#142 Scarletred
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Here is the end of discussion. the Ps3 comes out a year late and $200 more expensive. according to Sony it was the only True Next gen device, a supercomputer that will blow way every thing you thought was next gen. Now here is the reality for as late and as much as they want for this console it HAD to literally blow the doors off the 360 crush it with its true next gen goodness. And here we are one year after its launch and its still struggling to keep up with the 360'sd performance. I'm of the opinion its "game over"for Sony WHY??? pay $200 more for a system with less games and worse performance. Hell even if it was on par with the 360 is wouldn't be worth. Its funny to see all the deluded cow making excuse after excuse for the Con that is Ps3. Nugtoka

It's also funny how lemmings dismiss all the pros. Also it doesn't have worse performance.

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#143 swanlee
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"Also it doesn't have worse performance" Uh yeah it does 60FPS on the 360 VS 30FPS on the PS3 for ALL Football games this year = worse performance. Multi plats getting delayed left and right for the PS3 and even when they come out they look and run worse than the 360 version = worse Performance. Spin Spin Spin all you want but it's over guys, PS3 =Gamecube, learn to deal with it
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"Also it doesn't have worse performance" Uh yeah it does 60FPS on the 360 VS 30FPS on the PS3 for ALL Football games this year = worse performance. Multi plats getting delayed left and right for the PS3 and even when they come out they look and run worse than the 360 version = worse Performance. Spin Spin Spin all you want but it's over guys, PS3 =Gamecube, learn to deal with itswanlee

This reminds me of the time when the Dreamcast was being discountinued and cows were running rampant. My how funny things come back full circle. What goes around, comes around? :lol:

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#145 Scarletred
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"Also it doesn't have worse performance" Uh yeah it does 60FPS on the 360 VS 30FPS on the PS3 for ALL Football games this year = worse performance. Multi plats getting delayed left and right for the PS3 and even when they come out they look and run worse than the 360 version = worse Performance. Spin Spin Spin all you want but it's over guys, PS3 =Gamecube, learn to deal with itswanlee

So I guess the fact that some games thatjust happen to look and run better on the PS3 means that the 360 has worse performance huh? just because some games play better on the 360 doesn't mean the PS3 has "worse performance". Also what games that got delayed for the PS3 stil came out and had worse graphics?

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#146 Magical_Zebra
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So I guess the fact that some games thatjust happen to look and run better on the PS3 means that the 360 has worse performance huh?

Scarletred

Im calling you out. I need a link for that statement sir. You said it, not me.. :shock:

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#147 Scarletred
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[QUOTE="Scarletred"]

So I guess the fact that some games thatjust happen to look and run better on the PS3 means that the 360 has worse performance huh?

Magical_Zebra

Im calling you out. I need a link for that statement sir. You said it, not me.. :shock:

Some are on gamespot. I remember when looking for comparisons for fight night they said the PS3 version is overall better. When GS compared madden 07 for both, they said the details for the PS3 looked better than the 360's when moving.

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#148 palaric8
Member since 2006 • 2246 Posts
What does the wii version run at 30 or 60 FPS ? cyprus646
doesnt matter it has last gen graphics.
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#149 MikeE21286
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Does this matter really....it only matters for the small number of people who have a ps3 AND 360. Most people who play Madden don't know the difference between 60 fps and 30 fps (let alone what the hell those acronyms even mean). The PS3 people who would buy it will still buy it regardless....
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#150 Scarletred
Member since 2006 • 3199 Posts
To tell you the honest truth. I gave up on Maddenafter 06. Though the Wii does offer more innovation IMO for it.