2 reasons why 360 Bioshock > PC Bioshock

I played the demo on the PC and now playing a 360 rental and the graphics look basicallty the same. Deihmos

[QUOTE="mikasa"]But the only link you gave shows that you can ONLY play Bioshock on teh 360 at internet cafes. Show me one where you can play it on the PC for about $10...then you'd have a point. but until then you've proven my point. Besides if leaving your house to play a single player game isn't a good experience for me, but if I wanted to I could only do it on the 360 as well. But even if you do find iton the PC, all you have proven is that the PC Bioshock and 360 Bioshock are the same cost at internet cafes (assuming you can find one). And that's not what most people want to do...they want to play in their house.But prove me wrong. show Bioshock rental for $10/month on PC at home or internet cafe.Vandalvideo

As I said give me a phone number, yellowbook.com name/number, link, anything. Anything to prove you're just not making this crap up. So far you've given 1 link that proves bioshock is only available on the 360 at internet cafes. You said you play(ed) at Internet Cafes, give me the name or phone number or address or general whereabouts of that one and I'll call them to find out. Really it's simple, unless you're lying.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]And wait a minute, what are those figures you're touting? Are those upgrade costs or what? And over here in the US, $900 is not going to get you a really high end machine so I dont know where the "two high end PC's" came from...Vandalvideo

I'm not talking about outperforming the 360. I'm talking about a high end machine.

Well, hermits constantly brag about their PC's playing games at 100+ fps at 1900 x 1200 resolutions or higher and having the best looking game on their system (Crysis) as advantages over the 360. Can't do any of that on a PC that's equal to the 360. :)

Hman321

That's what they want you to think. But you get like 3 weeks AFTER the due date. so it ends up being about 1 month. They don't advertise that as they know they are getting hurt by that policy, however, they need to compete with the mail rentals and stuff...so they had to.

nope you get 8 days after due date

3. What if I forget to bring back a movie or game? Won't you charge me something at some point?
A: If you still have a movie or game eight ( 8 ) days after the due date shown on your receipt, we will convert your rental to a sale. The movie or game will be sold to you at the selling price in effect at the time of the rental, which is either the retail price, or, when available, the previously rented product price, less the initial rental fee you paid.

http://www.blockbuster.ca/end_late_fees/faq.aspx

mikasa = debunked

As I said give me a phone number, yellowbook.com name/number, link, anything. Anything to prove you're just not making this crap up. So far you've given 1 link that proves bioshock is only available on the 360 at internet cafes. You said you play(ed) at Internet Cafes, give me the name or phone number or address or general whereabouts of that one and I'll call them to find out. Really it's simple, unless you're lying.mikasa

Well, hermits constantly brag about their PC's playing games at 100+ fps at 1900 x 1200 resolutions or higher and having the best looking game on their system (Crysis) as advantages over the 360. Can't do any of that on a PC that's equal to the 360. :)The_Game21x

nope you get 8 days after due date

3. What if I forget to bring back a movie or game? Won't you charge me something at some point?
A: If you still have a movie or game eight ( 8 ) days after the due date shown on your receipt, we will convert your rental to a sale. The movie or game will be sold to you at the selling price in effect at the time of the rental, which is either the retail price, or, when available, the previously rented product price, less the initial rental fee you paid.

http://www.blockbuster.ca/end_late_fees/faq.aspx

Hman321

that's where they charge you, but you can get that back if you return it within 30 days after the due date:

5. What if I return the movie or game eight days or more past the due date?
A: We will gladly let you return the movie or game within 30 days of the sale. If the selling price has been paid in full, we will credit the amount back to your membership account. If this balance is still owing on your membership account we will remove the balance. However, in both instances you will be charged a one-time restocking fee of $1.75 (CDN)per unit plus applicable taxes.
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Note this is Canada pricing...In the US it's $1.25.

[QUOTE="Hman321"]

nope you get 8 days after due date

3. What if I forget to bring back a movie or game? Won't you charge me something at some point?
A: If you still have a movie or game eight ( 8 ) days after the due date shown on your receipt, we will convert your rental to a sale. The movie or game will be sold to you at the selling price in effect at the time of the rental, which is either the retail price, or, when available, the previously rented product price, less the initial rental fee you paid.

http://www.blockbuster.ca/end_late_fees/faq.aspx

mikasa

that's where they charge you, but you can get that back if you return it within 30 days after the due date:

5. What if I return the movie or game eight days or more past the due date?
A: We will gladly let you return the movie or game within 30 days of the sale. If the selling price has been paid in full, we will credit the amount back to your membership account. If this balance is still owing on your membership account we will remove the balance. However, in both instances you will be charged a one-time restocking fee of $1.75 per unit plus applicable taxes.
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Oh great, so now we are in the realms of you actually having to BUY the game at full price and then returning it for a refund. Pfft anyone can do that in pretty much any store.

:lol: such a pathetic arguement.

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Hman321"]

nope you get 8 days after due date

3. What if I forget to bring back a movie or game? Won't you charge me something at some point?
A: If you still have a movie or game eight ( 8 ) days after the due date shown on your receipt, we will convert your rental to a sale. The movie or game will be sold to you at the selling price in effect at the time of the rental, which is either the retail price, or, when available, the previously rented product price, less the initial rental fee you paid.

http://www.blockbuster.ca/end_late_fees/faq.aspx

jt8b2z

that's where they charge you, but you can get that back if you return it within 30 days after the due date:

5. What if I return the movie or game eight days or more past the due date?
A: We will gladly let you return the movie or game within 30 days of the sale. If the selling price has been paid in full, we will credit the amount back to your membership account. If this balance is still owing on your membership account we will remove the balance. However, in both instances you will be charged a one-time restocking fee of $1.75 per unit plus applicable taxes.
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Oh great, so now we are in the realms of you actually having to BUY the game at full price and then returning it for a refund. Pfft anyone can do that in pretty much any store.

:lol: such a pathetic arguement.

:lol: hahahahaha

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]Well, hermits constantly brag about their PC's playing games at 100+ fps at 1900 x 1200 resolutions or higher and having the best looking game on their system (Crysis) as advantages over the 360. Can't do any of that on a PC that's equal to the 360. :)Vandalvideo

Not really. That's like a friend setting you up on a blind date and shows you a picture of a gorgeous girl. But when you pick her up it's the same girl, but he should have shown you a full body picture of the girl as she's 200 pounds below the waist. PC gamers get to see what the game looks like on max settings, but rarely do review sites or never do publishers show what hte game looks like on minimum settings.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]Well, hermits constantly brag about their PC's playing games at 100+ fps at 1900 x 1200 resolutions or higher and having the best looking game on their system (Crysis) as advantages over the 360. Can't do any of that on a PC that's equal to the 360. :)mikasa

Not really. That's like a friend setting you up on a blind date and shows you a picture of a gorgeous girl. But when you pick her up it's the same girl, but he should have shown you a full body picture of the girl as she's 200 pounds below the waist. PC gamers get to see what the game looks like on max settings, but rarely do review sites or never do publishers show what hte game looks like on minimum settings.

:lol: wtf?

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]Well, hermits constantly brag about their PC's playing games at 100+ fps at 1900 x 1200 resolutions or higher and having the best looking game on their system (Crysis) as advantages over the 360. Can't do any of that on a PC that's equal to the 360. :)Vandalvideo

Well, if you want to pay a premium, yes.

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Hman321"]

nope you get 8 days after due date

3. What if I forget to bring back a movie or game? Won't you charge me something at some point?
A: If you still have a movie or game eight ( 8 ) days after the due date shown on your receipt, we will convert your rental to a sale. The movie or game will be sold to you at the selling price in effect at the time of the rental, which is either the retail price, or, when available, the previously rented product price, less the initial rental fee you paid.

http://www.blockbuster.ca/end_late_fees/faq.aspx

jt8b2z

that's where they charge you, but you can get that back if you return it within 30 days after the due date:

5. What if I return the movie or game eight days or more past the due date?
A: We will gladly let you return the movie or game within 30 days of the sale. If the selling price has been paid in full, we will credit the amount back to your membership account. If this balance is still owing on your membership account we will remove the balance. However, in both instances you will be charged a one-time restocking fee of $1.75 per unit plus applicable taxes.
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Oh great, so now we are in the realms of you actually having to BUY the game at full price and then returning it for a refund. Pfft anyone can do that in pretty much any store.

:lol: such a pathetic arguement.

It's completely transparent. I do it all the time. And it works amazingly smooth. AND if you really like the game you can keep it and own it. It's really teh best way to get games now-a-days. Truly try it BEFORE you buy it.

Options for PC Bioshock. Buy it.

As vandal said earlier...aren't options a wonderful thing. PC you only have one option...buy it.

Not really. That's like a friend setting you up on a blind date and shows you a picture of a gorgeous girl. But when you pick her up it's the same girl, but he should have shown you a full body picture of the girl as she's 200 pounds below the waist. PC gamers get to see what the game looks like on max settings, but rarely do review sites or never do publishers show what hte game looks like on minimum settings.mikasa

[QUOTE="mikasa"]As I said give me a phone number, yellowbook.com name/number, link, anything. Anything to prove you're just not making this crap up. So far you've given 1 link that proves bioshock is only available on the 360 at internet cafes. You said you play(ed) at Internet Cafes, give me the name or phone number or address or general whereabouts of that one and I'll call them to find out. Really it's simple, unless you're lying.Vandalvideo

I just called three of them only one had bioshock, but it was only available on the 360. So far 4 internet cafes and 2 had bioshock on the 360 and none on the PC. and no one had pricing for around $10 for unlimited play for the month.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]Well, hermits constantly brag about their PC's playing games at 100+ fps at 1900 x 1200 resolutions or higher and having the best looking game on their system (Crysis) as advantages over the 360. Can't do any of that on a PC that's equal to the 360. :)mikasa

Not really. That's like a friend setting you up on a blind date and shows you a picture of a gorgeous girl. But when you pick her up it's the same girl, but he should have shown you a full body picture of the girl as she's 200 pounds below the waist. PC gamers get to see what the game looks like on max settings, but rarely do review sites or never do publishers show what hte game looks like on minimum settings.

[QUOTE="jt8b2z"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Hman321"]

nope you get 8 days after due date

3. What if I forget to bring back a movie or game? Won't you charge me something at some point?
A: If you still have a movie or game eight ( 8 ) days after the due date shown on your receipt, we will convert your rental to a sale. The movie or game will be sold to you at the selling price in effect at the time of the rental, which is either the retail price, or, when available, the previously rented product price, less the initial rental fee you paid.

http://www.blockbuster.ca/end_late_fees/faq.aspx

mikasa

that's where they charge you, but you can get that back if you return it within 30 days after the due date:

5. What if I return the movie or game eight days or more past the due date?
A: We will gladly let you return the movie or game within 30 days of the sale. If the selling price has been paid in full, we will credit the amount back to your membership account. If this balance is still owing on your membership account we will remove the balance. However, in both instances you will be charged a one-time restocking fee of $1.75 per unit plus applicable taxes.
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Oh great, so now we are in the realms of you actually having to BUY the game at full price and then returning it for a refund. Pfft anyone can do that in pretty much any store.

:lol: such a pathetic arguement.

It's completely transparent. I do it all the time. And it works amazingly smooth. AND if you really like the game you can keep it and own it. It's really teh best way to get games now-a-days. Truly try it BEFORE you buy it.

Options for PC Bioshock. Buy it.

As vandal said earlier...aren't options a wonderful thing. PC you only have one option...buy it.

No anyone can buy a game and then take it back to a store. In fact by law you have up to a certain time period to take anything back to a store. Failing that, make up a stupid excuse.

Face it, both your arguements hold no strength whatsoever.

So if you want to play bioshock and complete it, you have to rent it,miss the deadline,then buy it at full retail cost, then make sure you complete it in 30 days, then take it back for a refund.

Gezz have fun with that.:lol:

[QUOTE="mikasa"]Not really. That's like a friend setting you up on a blind date and shows you a picture of a gorgeous girl. But when you pick her up it's the same girl, but he should have shown you a full body picture of the girl as she's 200 pounds below the waist. PC gamers get to see what the game looks like on max settings, but rarely do review sites or never do publishers show what hte game looks like on minimum settings.Vandalvideo

OK, let's use your analogy. The hot expensive girl is obviously the high-end PC. But for the other girl, we really don't get to see a picture of her before agreeing to go out with her. You really don't know if she'll eat Wendy's or decide Ruth's Chris steakhouse is the only place she wants to eat until her cycle ends.

And each time you want to go out with a new girl you have no idea if she'll like you and you have no idea what she'll look like and act like until after you paid for dinner.

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="jt8b2z"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Hman321"]

nope you get 8 days after due date

3. What if I forget to bring back a movie or game? Won't you charge me something at some point?
A: If you still have a movie or game eight ( 8 ) days after the due date shown on your receipt, we will convert your rental to a sale. The movie or game will be sold to you at the selling price in effect at the time of the rental, which is either the retail price, or, when available, the previously rented product price, less the initial rental fee you paid.

http://www.blockbuster.ca/end_late_fees/faq.aspx

jt8b2z

that's where they charge you, but you can get that back if you return it within 30 days after the due date:

5. What if I return the movie or game eight days or more past the due date?
A: We will gladly let you return the movie or game within 30 days of the sale. If the selling price has been paid in full, we will credit the amount back to your membership account. If this balance is still owing on your membership account we will remove the balance. However, in both instances you will be charged a one-time restocking fee of $1.75 per unit plus applicable taxes.
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Oh great, so now we are in the realms of you actually having to BUY the game at full price and then returning it for a refund. Pfft anyone can do that in pretty much any store.

:lol: such a pathetic arguement.

It's completely transparent. I do it all the time. And it works amazingly smooth. AND if you really like the game you can keep it and own it. It's really teh best way to get games now-a-days. Truly try it BEFORE you buy it.

Options for PC Bioshock. Buy it.

As vandal said earlier...aren't options a wonderful thing. PC you only have one option...buy it.

No anyone can buy a game and then take it back to a store. In fact by law you have up to a certain time period to take anything back to a store. Failing that, make up a stupid excuse.

Face it, both your arguements hold no strength whatsoever.

So if you want to play bioshock and complete it, you have to rent it,miss the deadline,then buy it at full retail cost, then make sure you complete it in 30 days, then take it back for a refund.

Gezz have fun with that.:lol:

Ah so the only way the PC competes here is to be dishonest. either steal the game on the internet or steal it from the retailer. Many states and stores have rules about no returns on opened software. Now you can get around that in some places. Say the disk is damaged....they give a new copy. Then return the new copy as it's now unopened. but sometimes they mark the receipt and then you're stuck...especially if the package has the store sticker on it.

Where as BB is legal and really quite hassel free. In fact, when I return it, I can just drop it off in the drop box and pay the 1.25 the next time I go and get a free game. So 1.25 for 35 days to keep a game is a great deal and you know it. to argue otherwise is silly.

OK, let's use your analogy. The hot expensive girl is obviously the high-end PC. But for the other girl, we really don't get to see a picture of her before agreeing to go out with her. You really don't know if she'll eat Wendy's or decide Ruth's Chris steakhouse is the only place she wants to eat until her cycle ends.And each time you want to go out with a new girl you have no idea if she'll like you and you have no idea what she'll look like and act like until after you paid for dinner.mikasa

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="jt8b2z"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Hman321"]

nope you get 8 days after due date

3. What if I forget to bring back a movie or game? Won't you charge me something at some point?
A: If you still have a movie or game eight ( 8 ) days after the due date shown on your receipt, we will convert your rental to a sale. The movie or game will be sold to you at the selling price in effect at the time of the rental, which is either the retail price, or, when available, the previously rented product price, less the initial rental fee you paid.

http://www.blockbuster.ca/end_late_fees/faq.aspx

jt8b2z

that's where they charge you, but you can get that back if you return it within 30 days after the due date:

5. What if I return the movie or game eight days or more past the due date?
A: We will gladly let you return the movie or game within 30 days of the sale. If the selling price has been paid in full, we will credit the amount back to your membership account. If this balance is still owing on your membership account we will remove the balance. However, in both instances you will be charged a one-time restocking fee of $1.75 per unit plus applicable taxes.
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Oh great, so now we are in the realms of you actually having to BUY the game at full price and then returning it for a refund. Pfft anyone can do that in pretty much any store.

:lol: such a pathetic arguement.

It's completely transparent. I do it all the time. And it works amazingly smooth. AND if you really like the game you can keep it and own it. It's really teh best way to get games now-a-days. Truly try it BEFORE you buy it.

Options for PC Bioshock. Buy it.

As vandal said earlier...aren't options a wonderful thing. PC you only have one option...buy it.

No anyone can buy a game and then take it back to a store. In fact by law you have up to a certain time period to take anything back to a store. Failing that, make up a stupid excuse.

Face it, both your arguements hold no strength whatsoever.

So if you want to play bioshock and complete it, you have to rent it,miss the deadline,then buy it at full retail cost, then make sure you complete it in 30 days, then take it back for a refund.

Gezz have fun with that.:lol:

plus gas money

so you would end up having paid way more and going threw lots of carp

instead of one easy paypaid on pc

[QUOTE="jt8b2z"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="jt8b2z"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Hman321"]

nope you get 8 days after due date

3. What if I forget to bring back a movie or game? Won't you charge me something at some point?
A: If you still have a movie or game eight ( 8 ) days after the due date shown on your receipt, we will convert your rental to a sale. The movie or game will be sold to you at the selling price in effect at the time of the rental, which is either the retail price, or, when available, the previously rented product price, less the initial rental fee you paid.

http://www.blockbuster.ca/end_late_fees/faq.aspx

mikasa

that's where they charge you, but you can get that back if you return it within 30 days after the due date:

5. What if I return the movie or game eight days or more past the due date?
A: We will gladly let you return the movie or game within 30 days of the sale. If the selling price has been paid in full, we will credit the amount back to your membership account. If this balance is still owing on your membership account we will remove the balance. However, in both instances you will be charged a one-time restocking fee of $1.75 per unit plus applicable taxes.
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Oh great, so now we are in the realms of you actually having to BUY the game at full price and then returning it for a refund. Pfft anyone can do that in pretty much any store.

:lol: such a pathetic arguement.

It's completely transparent. I do it all the time. And it works amazingly smooth. AND if you really like the game you can keep it and own it. It's really teh best way to get games now-a-days. Truly try it BEFORE you buy it.

Options for PC Bioshock. Buy it.

As vandal said earlier...aren't options a wonderful thing. PC you only have one option...buy it.

No anyone can buy a game and then take it back to a store. In fact by law you have up to a certain time period to take anything back to a store. Failing that, make up a stupid excuse.

Face it, both your arguements hold no strength whatsoever.

So if you want to play bioshock and complete it, you have to rent it,miss the deadline,then buy it at full retail cost, then make sure you complete it in 30 days, then take it back for a refund.

Gezz have fun with that.:lol:

Ah so the only way the PC competes here is to be dishonest. either steal the game on the internet or steal it from the retailer. Many states and stores have rules about no returns on opened software. Now you can get around that in some places. Say the disk is damaged....they give a new copy. Then return the new copy as it's now unopened. but sometimes they mark the receipt and then you're stuck...especially if the package has the store sticker on it.

Where as BB is legal and really quite hassel free. In fact, when I return it, I can just drop it off in the drop box and pay the 1.25 the next time I go and get a free game. So 1.25 for 35 days to keep a game is a great deal and you know it. to argue otherwise is silly.

Returning a pc game within the stores return policy is not illegal or dishonest and when did i mention stealing the game from a retailer or the internet?

and what you are doing is hardly hassle free.

[QUOTE="mikasa"]OK, let's use your analogy. The hot expensive girl is obviously the high-end PC. But for the other girl, we really don't get to see a picture of her before agreeing to go out with her. You really don't know if she'll eat Wendy's or decide Ruth's Chris steakhouse is the only place she wants to eat until her cycle ends.And each time you want to go out with a new girl you have no idea if she'll like you and you have no idea what she'll look like and act like until after you paid for dinner.Vandalvideo

I forgot who I was talking with. I'll spell it out for you so you won't misread it.

Can I assume you understand the high-end PC == hot/expensive girl? If not let me know and I'll try to elaborate.

But all the other girls == games. You have to pay for the game before you see how it will look/run on your system. So in comparison terms. Everytime you want to go on a date with a girl, you don't get to see what she will really look like or if she'll even behave ina way you like on the date which you have to pay for dinner in advance.

Consoles aren't even in this analogy, but I can add them. I get to see exactly what the girl will look like and act like BEFORE I pay for dinner or even deciding if I want to go out with her. I can read reviews, look at the game running on a system that is EXACTLY like mine and know what I'm getting. Sure it may not be as hot as the high-end PC, but it is pretty sweet and better than anything it's exactly what I was expecting.

Returning a pc game within the stores return policy is not illegal or dishonest and when did i mention stealing the game from a retailer or the internet?

and what you are doing is hardly hassle free.

jt8b2z

Link to stores that allow OPENED games to be returned for money (In the US).

Consoles aren't even in this analogy, but I can add them. I get to see exactly what the girl will look like and act like BEFORE I pay for dinner or even deciding if I want to go out with her. I can read reviews, look at the game running on a system that is EXACTLY like mine and know what I'm getting. Sure it may not be as hot as the high-end PC, but it is pretty sweet and better than anything it's exactly what I was expecting.mikasa

Ah so the only way the PC competes here is to be dishonest. either steal the game on the internet or steal it from the retailer. Many states and stores have rules about no returns on opened software. Now you can get around that in some places. Say the disk is damaged....they give a new copy. Then return the new copy as it's now unopened. but sometimes they mark the receipt and then you're stuck...especially if the package has the store sticker on it.

Where as BB is legal and really quite hassel free. In fact, when I return it, I can just drop it off in the drop box and pay the 1.25 the next time I go and get a free game. So 1.25 for 35 days to keep a game is a great deal and you know it. to argue otherwise is silly.

mikasa

How is what you're doing not dishonest? You're keeping the game well past the week that Blockbuster wants you to keep it, only because under their new policy there's only a restocking fee and no more late charges, so there's an easy and obvious loophole. Of course, that doesn't make it right. I'm sure you're still getting calls from Blockbuster after the week has gone by, asking you to return the game, which you simply ignore. But no, that's not dishonest.:roll: Gotta love the moral relativism here.

Not to mention this whole argument about a game being inherently superior because you can rent it instead of buy it just makes no sense. What does that have anything to do with the game itself?

plus gas money

so you would end up having paid way more and going threw lots of carp

instead of one easy paypaid on pc

Hman321

Really? Most/many people buy their games from brick & mortar stores, so you have to pay for gas there as well. You're really stretching to go into the gas argument (and still you fail).

That's it, I'm taking a screenshot of bioshock running on my rig, which was around $1000 and will last me a few years.

Brb. OH, and whoever said its like a blind date, what about a demo? You can see what it'll loook like before you buy it. And most pc games have demos now-a-days.

[QUOTE="jt8b2z"]Returning a pc game within the stores return policy is not illegal or dishonest and when did i mention stealing the game from a retailer or the internet?

and what you are doing is hardly hassle free.

mikasa

Link to stores that allow OPENED games to be returned for money (In the US).

you could always sell to a friend to for full price

[QUOTE="mikasa"]Ah so the only way the PC competes here is to be dishonest. either steal the game on the internet or steal it from the retailer. Many states and stores have rules about no returns on opened software. Now you can get around that in some places. Say the disk is damaged....they give a new copy. Then return the new copy as it's now unopened. but sometimes they mark the receipt and then you're stuck...especially if the package has the store sticker on it.

Where as BB is legal and really quite hassel free. In fact, when I return it, I can just drop it off in the drop box and pay the 1.25 the next time I go and get a free game. So 1.25 for 35 days to keep a game is a great deal and you know it. to argue otherwise is silly.

Zeliard9

How is what you're doing not dishonest? You're keeping the game well past the week that Blockbuster wants you to keep it, only because under their new policy there's only a restocking fee and no more late charges, so there's an easy and obvious loophole. Of course, that doesn't make it right. I'm sure you're still getting calls from Blockbuster after the week has gone by, asking you to return the game, which you simply ignore. But no, that's not dishonest.:roll: Gotta love the moral relativism here.

Not to mention this whole argument about a game being inherently superior because you can rent it instead of buy it just makes no sense. What does that have anything to do with the game itself?

This is not a moral issue at all and to suggest it is is ignorant. It may be unethical to some, but ethics are relative and I have no problem operating within the rules blockbuster sets forth. If they want to cut it down to 3 weeks, 2week, or no weeks...they can and I won't try to circumvent them. It's there store and policy. And it's my money and time. We each entered into an agreement with each other freely and so far we both appear happy.

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="jt8b2z"]Returning a pc game within the stores return policy is not illegal or dishonest and when did i mention stealing the game from a retailer or the internet?

and what you are doing is hardly hassle free.

Hman321

Link to stores that allow OPENED games to be returned for money (In the US).

you could always sell to a friend to for full price

stretching once again. Or I could even sell it for more than full price. If my friend is dumb enough to buy used DRM software, he's proably dumb enough to pay 2X the full price.

[QUOTE="jt8b2z"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Hman321"]

nope you get 8 days after due date

3. What if I forget to bring back a movie or game? Won't you charge me something at some point?
A: If you still have a movie or game eight ( 8 ) days after the due date shown on your receipt, we will convert your rental to a sale. The movie or game will be sold to you at the selling price in effect at the time of the rental, which is either the retail price, or, when available, the previously rented product price, less the initial rental fee you paid.

http://www.blockbuster.ca/end_late_fees/faq.aspx

mikasa

that's where they charge you, but you can get that back if you return it within 30 days after the due date:

5. What if I return the movie or game eight days or more past the due date?
A: We will gladly let you return the movie or game within 30 days of the sale. If the selling price has been paid in full, we will credit the amount back to your membership account. If this balance is still owing on your membership account we will remove the balance. However, in both instances you will be charged a one-time restocking fee of $1.75 per unit plus applicable taxes.
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Oh great, so now we are in the realms of you actually having to BUY the game at full price and then returning it for a refund. Pfft anyone can do that in pretty much any store.

:lol: such a pathetic arguement.

It's completely transparent. I do it all the time. And it works amazingly smooth. AND if you really like the game you can keep it and own it. It's really teh best way to get games now-a-days. Truly try it BEFORE you buy it.

Options for PC Bioshock. Buy it.

As vandal said earlier...aren't options a wonderful thing. PC you only have one option...buy it.

Guess what I'm doing right now??? Go on........ guess........ thats right, I'm renting Bioshock. Its costing me less tha 1/6 the cost of actually buying the game. Already half way through. Isn't life amazing.

Guess what I'm doing right now??? Go on........ guess........ thats right, I'mrenting Bioshock. Its costing me less tha 1/6 the cost of actually buying the game. Already half way through. Isn't life amazingRaveRabbid

Not to mention this whole argument about a game being inherently superior because you can rent it instead of buy it just makes no sense. What does that have anything to do with the game itself?

Zeliard9

I never said the game was inherently superior on the 360. I just gave 2 advantages to the 360 version vs. the PC version. Read all my posts I list some of the advantages to the PC version.

My point is as more and more games go DRM the more consoles will be a better choice for many people.

[QUOTE="Hman321"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="jt8b2z"]Returning a pc game within the stores return policy is not illegal or dishonest and when did i mention stealing the game from a retailer or the internet?

and what you are doing is hardly hassle free.

mikasa

Link to stores that allow OPENED games to be returned for money (In the US).

you could always sell to a friend to for full price

stretching once again. Or I could even sell it for more than full price. If my friend is dumb enough to buy used DRM software, he's proably dumb enough to pay 2X the full price.

Its your argument that stretching mate :lol:

Your saying that renting a ferrari is the same as owning one.

Owning a game >>>>> renting it.

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]Guess what I'm doing right now??? Go on........ guess........ thats right, I'mrenting Bioshock. Its costing me less tha 1/6 the cost of actually buying the game. Already half way through. Isn't life amazingVandalvideo

That's about as stupid as saying PC gaming is dying. Renting has been around for years and years, but the games keep coming.

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]Guess what I'm doing right now??? Go on........ guess........ thats right, I'mrenting Bioshock. Its costing me less tha 1/6 the cost of actually buying the game. Already half way through. Isn't life amazingVandalvideo

Not really. I do buy some online games such as GeOW, soon to be Halo 3.......... and perhaps even Warhawk. Its just the game length is getting smaller these days. An online component is a must these days. More importantly, I play tons of games. How the hell am I going to pay for 30 or 40 games a year. Yes I have a job but its more reasonable to rent some and pay for few.

That's about as stupid as saying PC gaming is dying. Renting has been around for years and years, but the games keep coming.mikasa

Not really. I do buy some online games such as GeOW, soon to be Halo 3.......... and perhaps even Warhawk. Its just the game length is getting smaller these days. An online component is a must these days. More importantly, I play tons of games. How the hell am I going to pay for 30 or 40 games a year. Yes I have a job but its more reasonable to rent some and pay for few.RaveRabbid

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Hman321"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="jt8b2z"]Returning a pc game within the stores return policy is not illegal or dishonest and when did i mention stealing the game from a retailer or the internet?

and what you are doing is hardly hassle free.

jt8b2z

Link to stores that allow OPENED games to be returned for money (In the US).

you could always sell to a friend to for full price

stretching once again. Or I could even sell it for more than full price. If my friend is dumb enough to buy used DRM software, he's proably dumb enough to pay 2X the full price.

Its your argument that stretching mate :lol:

Your saying that renting a ferrari is the same as owning one.

Owning a game >>>>> renting it.

No it's more like buying a disposable razor vs. renting it. After a few uses it's not worth much anyway.

To use a ferarri as an example, you'd have to choose a game that has great replay value like Halo3.

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]Not really. I do buy some online games such as GeOW, soon to be Halo 3.......... and perhaps even Warhawk. Its just the game length is getting smaller these days. An online component is a must these days. More importantly, I play tons of games. How the hell am I going to pay for 30 or 40 games a year. Yes I have a job but its more reasonable to rent some and pay for few.Vandalvideo

Sometimes you have to pick and choose. If I didn't have the money....... what are my options......... thats right, renting the game.

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]Not really. I do buy some online games such as GeOW, soon to be Halo 3.......... and perhaps even Warhawk. Its just the game length is getting smaller these days. An online component is a must these days. More importantly, I play tons of games. How the hell am I going to pay for 30 or 40 games a year. Yes I have a job but its more reasonable to rent some and pay for few.Vandalvideo

He is supporting it. By renting it he increases the demand on Blockbuster (or whoever) to order more copies so the customers can rent it from them. Everyone wins. Publisher/dev gets paid by blockbuster, blockbuster gets paid by you, you get to play a great game.

And the benefit of rewarding blockbuster for doing this is that they'll keep on renting games and then we can rent the no-so-sure games and if they are crap we don't loose much, but if it's great we can buy our own copy. Win-Win for all involved.

He is supporting it. By renting it he increases the demand on Blockbuster (or whoever) to order more copies so the customers can rent it from them. Everyone wins. Publisher/dev gets paid by blockbuster, blockbuster gets paid by you, you get to play a great game. And the benefit of rewarding blockbuster for doing this is that they'll keep on renting games and then we can rent the no-so-sure games and if they are crap we don't loose much, but if it's great we can buy our own copy. Win-Win for all involved.mikasa

[QUOTE="mikasa"]That's about as stupid as saying PC gaming is dying. Renting has been around for years and years, but the games keep coming.Vandalvideo

Ah the mythical slippery slope. I have a differnt idea, if they want us to BUY the game then make it worth OWNING. Put something in the game that will keep me playing past a rental. If they can't do that, then too bad for them.

[QUOTE="jt8b2z"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Hman321"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="jt8b2z"]Returning a pc game within the stores return policy is not illegal or dishonest and when did i mention stealing the game from a retailer or the internet?

and what you are doing is hardly hassle free.

mikasa

Link to stores that allow OPENED games to be returned for money (In the US).

you could always sell to a friend to for full price

stretching once again. Or I could even sell it for more than full price. If my friend is dumb enough to buy used DRM software, he's proably dumb enough to pay 2X the full price.

Its your argument that stretching mate :lol:

Your saying that renting a ferrari is the same as owning one.

Owning a game >>>>> renting it.

No it's more like buying a disposable razor vs. renting it. After a few uses it's not worth much anyway.

To use a ferarri as an example, you'd have to choose a game that has great replay value like Halo3.

bioshock has immense replay value :|

Ah the mythical slippery slope. I have a differnt idea, if they want us to BUY the game then make it worth OWNING. Put something in the game that will keep me playing past a rental. If they can't do that, then too bad for them.mikasa

[QUOTE="mikasa"]He is supporting it. By renting it he increases the demand on Blockbuster (or whoever) to order more copies so the customers can rent it from them. Everyone wins. Publisher/dev gets paid by blockbuster, blockbuster gets paid by you, you get to play a great game. And the benefit of rewarding blockbuster for doing this is that they'll keep on renting games and then we can rent the no-so-sure games and if they are crap we don't loose much, but if it's great we can buy our own copy. Win-Win for all involved.Vandalvideo

Hey this is capitalism. If you like it buy it. If you can get what you want out of it by renting it...rent it. This is not a religous or socialist market.In the end the devs/publishers will make games that are worth owning. Besides it appears bioshock has no issues with selling and making money, so your fears can rest easy now...they are the 2nd best selling game on the 360 (or something like that).

Hey this is capitalism. If you like it buy it. If you can get what you want out of it by renting it...rent it. This is religous or socialist market.In the end the devs/publishers will make games that are worth owning. Besides it appears bioshock has no issues with selling and making money, so your fears can rest easy now...they are the 2nd best selling game on the 360 (or something like that).mikasa

bioshock has immense replay value :|jt8b2z

Really? I haven't seen much to convince me of that. outside of the 3 different endings what else is there?

THere is rumor of a possible mod that may be worth playing in the future, but it isn't out yet nor have I seen any idea of what the mod will do to make it better. So right now it's about as reliable as duke nukem forever. When it's out then we can talk.

[QUOTE="mikasa"]Hey this is capitalism. If you like it buy it. If you can get what you want out of it by renting it...rent it. This is not a religous or socialist market.In the end the devs/publishers will make games that are worth owning. Besides it appears bioshock has no issues with selling and making money, so your fears can rest easy now...they are the 2nd best selling game on the 360 (or something like that).Vandalvideo

You're the one that plays in internet cafes for $10/month all you can play. (I don't really believe that, but you said you did play for something that was about like that). So I guess you don't deserve to play games anymore then either.