360 only has 2-3 AAA exclusives in nearly 2 years

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]What two words did I highlight? Could. You have no facts to believe that a version will be coming out two years after it was released or any facts stating that there are significant changes to the games.

I Know that the single player game will be the same game with the inclusion of extra missions on the PC and that the extra content will only be on PC. Your argument is littered with opinion and guess-work, and withan estimated release date of November 07 at IGN and Gamestop.com, one of your opinionated arguments just got a little weaker

Verge_6

Even If the game makes the winter release, it is still a year after the release of its counterpart. People will be focusing on Geow2, and the 360 will still be seen as the game's 'home'. The scenario will be reminiscent of Halo's port to the PC.

You try to disprove me so I played right back, don't getsad because you tried to lay off your opinion as fact

Really this statistic means nothing to me personally as I cannot play the games on my PC that are also on the 360 anyway.Driftwood111

does anyone care if its a AAA or ZZZ. xbla is the best gaming community on earth. where else are you going to play nearly 5million subscribers at any given moment. that is maintained.whyamisogood716

pc?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="huff2k"]

i think the point of this thread is that the XBOX360 HAS BEEN OUT FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS and has 2-3 AAA's

the ps3 hasnt even been out one year so when u say XBOX's 2-3 AAA's > PS3 AAA's 0 ...... almost 2 years > 9 months?

hyperboy152000

statistically speaking, the 360's launch lineup is better thanthe ps3's current lineup.

that only a matter of opinion... and while the whole exclusivity debate is not opinion but more or less fact considering that if you can play a game on more then one system with more or less the same stuff its not exclusive no matter what platform its on... but in direct response to your post, when talking about scores your right, but the 360 still didnt have a must own AAA game until geow came out

no it's not a matter of opinion, we're talking statistically based on GS reviews. you are posting on a GS forum. if you take all the scores for the 360 launch and all for the PS3 launch - 360 beats PS3. end of story. no opinions. nobody really cares if you think the scores are apt or fair, they are what they are and this is how system wars works. if you want to talk about opinion keep it in the blog, or expect people to shoot you down ;)

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]What two words did I highlight? Could. You have no facts to believe that a version will be coming out two years after it was released or any facts stating that there are significant changes to the games.

I Know that the single player game will be the same game with the inclusion of extra missions on the PC and that the extra content will only be on PC. Your argument is littered with opinion and guess-work, and withan estimated release date of November 07 at IGN and Gamestop.com, one of your opinionated arguments just got a little weaker

hyperboy152000

Even If the game makes the winter release, it is still a year after the release of its counterpart. People will be focusing on Geow2, and the 360 will still be seen as the game's 'home'.

so basicly a game should be considered AAAE because it being ported to the PC a little over a year after its intital release on the 360 but sigma shouldnt be considered a AAAE because it was ported more then a year later on a rival console?....

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]What two words did I highlight? Could. You have no facts to believe that a version will be coming out two years after it was released or any facts stating that there are significant changes to the games.

I Know that the single player game will be the same game with the inclusion of extra missions on the PC and that the extra content will only be on PC. Your argument is littered with opinion and guess-work, and withan estimated release date of November 07 at IGN and Gamestop.com, one of your opinionated arguments just got a little weaker

hyperboy152000

Even If the game makes the winter release, it is still a year after the release of its counterpart. People will be focusing on Geow2, and the 360 will still be seen as the game's 'home'.

so basicly a game should be considered AAAE because it being ported to the PC a little over a year after its intital release on the 360 but sigma shouldnt be considered a AAAE because it was ported more then a year later on a rival console?....

1) During the time between the releases, yes

2) No, Sigma isn't considered a AAAE because it is more or less NGB with a few extra missions and updates graphics. If you think those are reasons alone to consider it a PS3 AAAE, the one can consider the PC version of GeoW an exclusive as well, as it will have extra missions, updates graphics, etc., rendering it seperate from the 360 version.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="huff2k"]

i think the point of this thread is that the XBOX360 HAS BEEN OUT FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS and has 2-3 AAA's

the ps3 hasnt even been out one year so when u say XBOX's 2-3 AAA's > PS3 AAA's 0 ...... almost 2 years > 9 months?

hyperboy152000

statistically speaking, the 360's launch lineup is better thanthe ps3's current lineup.

that only a matter of opinion... and while the whole exclusivity debate is not opinion but more or less fact considering that if you can play a game on more then one system with more or less the same stuff its not exclusive no matter what platform its on... but in direct response to your post, when talking about scores your right, but the 360 still didnt have a must own AAA game until geow came out

No that one is a "fact" as Casey is using it. Yes the ratings are opinion, but in System Wars we go by GS ratings. so he is dead on.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]pdz + forza 2 + graw = 3JAMES_L_BROOKS

GRAW? isnt that coming out on PS3, wasnt there just a demo in EU for that on PSN? lol now im lost....

Graw 1, not 2

Multiplatform titles don't count I guess.

So 360 has PDZ and Forza... And the gamespot reviewer was drunk writing the review so PDZ shouldnt have been a 9. Not ever. Game sucked balls.

Agent-of-Evil

That's why TC said EXCLUSIVE

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="huff2k"]

i think the point of this thread is that the XBOX360 HAS BEEN OUT FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS and has 2-3 AAA's

the ps3 hasnt even been out one year so when u say XBOX's 2-3 AAA's > PS3 AAA's 0 ...... almost 2 years > 9 months?

hyperboy152000

statistically speaking, the 360's launch lineup is better thanthe ps3's current lineup.

that only a matter of opinion... and while the whole exclusivity debate is not opinion but more or less fact considering that if you can play a game on more then one system with more or less the same stuff its not exclusive no matter what platform its on... but in direct response to your post, when talking about scores your right, but the 360 still didnt have a must own AAA game until geow came out

it's not my opinion.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]What two words did I highlight? Could. You have no facts to believe that a version will be coming out two years after it was released or any facts stating that there are significant changes to the games.

I Know that the single player game will be the same game with the inclusion of extra missions on the PC and that the extra content will only be on PC. Your argument is littered with opinion and guess-work, and withan estimated release date of November 07 at IGN and Gamestop.com, one of your opinionated arguments just got a little weaker

MikeE21286

Even If the game makes the winter release, it is still a year after the release of its counterpart. People will be focusing on Geow2, and the 360 will still be seen as the game's 'home'. The scenario will be reminiscent of Halo's port to the PC.

You try to disprove me so I played right back, don't getsad because you tried to lay off your opinion as fact

:|Where did I say my opinion on the subject was fact? I have repeatedly stated things such as 'I find' 'I think' etc. Come back when you're either not so insultive, or in a calmer mood.

[QUOTE="mikasa"]

No it wasn't. The so-called Myth is that PC gaming costs a lot to get the SAME quality experience that the reviewer gets. or to run the game like the video shows. No one is interested in a game with medium settings. Sure they may be decent, but this is system wars and we are gragging about the great graphcis then we need to say the PC/video card required to run it is defnitely high-end. All games on consoles are ran at the best experience posible for the user (well depends on monitor attached, but that applies to both PCs and consoles). The PC game often needs to be ran on lowest settings or medium settings for many/most PC gamers.

When the review score reflects what the lowest common denominator on the PC is to play the game then we can call it even. In other words...Hermits don't brag about PC graphics on max...brag about them on the minimum requirements for the machine. Now if we want to just say PCs are more flexible than consoles, then obviously I agre and that's my point...comparing PCs to consoles is like comparing apples and oranges. It can be done, but they are both very very different experiences.

3picuri3

well this argument totally fails seeing that NO consoles can run games with the equivalent of PC high settings.

also fails because your point just isn't true. most if not all PC games are reviewed based on recommended system settings, which is what the game is designed for. it's not like they use a dual 8800 SLI with quad CPUs to test it out.

also fails because most PC gamers aren't pure visual whores - they don't mind taking some concessions in terms of visuals to get an extra few fps to get an edge in multi. at least they have the option - unlike some PS3 games and 360 games that are set above their capacity and chug like fat men in a race for the Last Burrito.

also fails because PC games get score reductions for poor performance on recommended settings.

there are numerous other reasons why this fails.

PC will always be a competitor in system wars - that's the biggest reason it fails, you can all spout it out until you're blue in the face, but the fact is PC's are GAMING PLATFORMS. deal with it - m'kay?

Gears disagrees with you. When it released it was king of all. Of course Crysis will pass that up, but when 360 launched it had the best GPU out. Of course now PC has passed it up.

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]What two words did I highlight? Could. You have no facts to believe that a version will be coming out two years after it was released or any facts stating that there are significant changes to the games.

I Know that the single player game will be the same game with the inclusion of extra missions on the PC and that the extra content will only be on PC. Your argument is littered with opinion and guess-work, and withan estimated release date of November 07 at IGN and Gamestop.com, one of your opinionated arguments just got a little weaker

Verge_6

Even If the game makes the winter release, it is still a year after the release of its counterpart. People will be focusing on Geow2, and the 360 will still be seen as the game's 'home'.

so basicly a game should be considered AAAE because it being ported to the PC a little over a year after its intital release on the 360 but sigma shouldnt be considered a AAAE because it was ported more then a year later on a rival console?....

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]What two words did I highlight? Could. You have no facts to believe that a version will be coming out two years after it was released or any facts stating that there are significant changes to the games.

I Know that the single player game will be the same game with the inclusion of extra missions on the PC and that the extra content will only be on PC. Your argument is littered with opinion and guess-work, and withan estimated release date of November 07 at IGN and Gamestop.com, one of your opinionated arguments just got a little weaker

hyperboy152000

Even If the game makes the winter release, it is still a year after the release of its counterpart. People will be focusing on Geow2, and the 360 will still be seen as the game's 'home'.

so basicly a game should be considered AAAE because it being ported to the PC a little over a year after its intital release on the 360 but sigma shouldnt be considered a AAAE because it was ported more then a year later on a rival console?....

1) During the time between the releases, yes

2) No, Sigma isn't considered a AAAE because it is more or less NGB with a few extra missions and updates graphics. If you think those are reasons alone to consider it a PS3 AAAE, the one can consider the PC version of GeoW an exclusive as well, as it will have extra missions, updates graphics, etc., rendering it seperate from the 360 version.

actually i dont consider either of them exclusives,but thats because neither of them are exclusives for any platform

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

No it wasn't. The so-called Myth is that PC gaming costs a lot to get the SAME quality experience that the reviewer gets. or to run the game like the video shows. No one is interested in a game with medium settings. Sure they may be decent, but this is system wars and we are gragging about the great graphcis then we need to say the PC/video card required to run it is defnitely high-end. All games on consoles are ran at the best experience posible for the user (well depends on monitor attached, but that applies to both PCs and consoles). The PC game often needs to be ran on lowest settings or medium settings for many/most PC gamers.

When the review score reflects what the lowest common denominator on the PC is to play the game then we can call it even. In other words...Hermits don't brag about PC graphics on max...brag about them on the minimum requirements for the machine. Now if we want to just say PCs are more flexible than consoles, then obviously I agre and that's my point...comparing PCs to consoles is like comparing apples and oranges. It can be done, but they are both very very different experiences.

mikasa

well this argument totally fails seeing that NO consoles can run games with the equivalent of PC high settings.

also fails because your point just isn't true. most if not all PC games are reviewed based on recommended system settings, which is what the game is designed for. it's not like they use a dual 8800 SLI with quad CPUs to test it out.

also fails because most PC gamers aren't pure visual whores - they don't mind taking some concessions in terms of visuals to get an extra few fps to get an edge in multi. at least they have the option - unlike some PS3 games and 360 games that are set above their capacity and chug like fat men in a race for the Last Burrito.

also fails because PC games get score reductions for poor performance on recommended settings.

there are numerous other reasons why this fails.

PC will always be a competitor in system wars - that's the biggest reason it fails, you can all spout it out until you're blue in the face, but the fact is PC's are GAMING PLATFORMS. deal with it - m'kay?

Gears disagrees with you. When it released it was king of all. Of course Crysis will pass that up, but when 360 launched it had the best GPU out. Of course now PC has passed it up.

king of all? are you insane?best GPU? maybe of consoles --- buddy you better get your facts right if you wanna keep afloat in here.

can you please elaborate - you're making little to no sense to me. if you want to argue then make your counterpoint, seeing i left the original argument dead in the water.

actually i dont consider either of them exclusives,but thats because neither of them are exclusives for any platform

hyperboy152000

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then. You have your views on the matter, I have mine.

[QUOTE="Driftwood111"]Really this statistic means nothing to me personally as I cannot play the games on my PC that are also on the 360 anyway.Jandurin

I personally wouldn't. I'm just glad I can play all these games on the 360 without dolling out more cash, and that's all that matters to me.

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="huff2k"]

i think the point of this thread is that the XBOX360 HAS BEEN OUT FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS and has 2-3 AAA's

the ps3 hasnt even been out one year so when u say XBOX's 2-3 AAA's > PS3 AAA's 0 ...... almost 2 years > 9 months?

CaseyWegner

statistically speaking, the 360's launch lineup is better thanthe ps3's current lineup.

that only a matter of opinion... and while the whole exclusivity debate is not opinion but more or less fact considering that if you can play a game on more then one system with more or less the same stuff its not exclusive no matter what platform its on... but in direct response to your post, when talking about scores your right, but the 360 still didnt have a must own AAA game until geow came out

it's not my opinion.

i forgot you said statically... my bad

[QUOTE="whyamisogood716"]does anyone care if its a AAA or ZZZ. xbla is the best gaming community on earth. where else are you going to play nearly 5million subscribers at any given moment. that is maintained.hyperboy152000

pc?

i will never count pc. here's why. why would anyone count a pc, because everytime a new game comes out you gotta upgrade it, or a new piece of hardware comes out you have to add it. its a ripp off. when the same game comes out for the console i have to do nothing. who plays on a keyboard and mouse anymore. that is a dying breed my friend. the dollar bill will close the gap to nell. it will not be worth it, to get the same gaming experience you;'ll get on a console.

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

No it wasn't. The so-called Myth is that PC gaming costs a lot to get the SAME quality experience that the reviewer gets. or to run the game like the video shows. No one is interested in a game with medium settings. Sure they may be decent, but this is system wars and we are gragging about the great graphcis then we need to say the PC/video card required to run it is defnitely high-end. All games on consoles are ran at the best experience posible for the user (well depends on monitor attached, but that applies to both PCs and consoles). The PC game often needs to be ran on lowest settings or medium settings for many/most PC gamers.

When the review score reflects what the lowest common denominator on the PC is to play the game then we can call it even. In other words...Hermits don't brag about PC graphics on max...brag about them on the minimum requirements for the machine. Now if we want to just say PCs are more flexible than consoles, then obviously I agre and that's my point...comparing PCs to consoles is like comparing apples and oranges. It can be done, but they are both very very different experiences.

3picuri3

well this argument totally fails seeing that NO consoles can run games with the equivalent of PC high settings.

also fails because your point just isn't true. most if not all PC games are reviewed based on recommended system settings, which is what the game is designed for. it's not like they use a dual 8800 SLI with quad CPUs to test it out.

also fails because most PC gamers aren't pure visual whores - they don't mind taking some concessions in terms of visuals to get an extra few fps to get an edge in multi. at least they have the option - unlike some PS3 games and 360 games that are set above their capacity and chug like fat men in a race for the Last Burrito.

also fails because PC games get score reductions for poor performance on recommended settings.

there are numerous other reasons why this fails.

PC will always be a competitor in system wars - that's the biggest reason it fails, you can all spout it out until you're blue in the face, but the fact is PC's are GAMING PLATFORMS. deal with it - m'kay?

Gears disagrees with you. When it released it was king of all. Of course Crysis will pass that up, but when 360 launched it had the best GPU out. Of course now PC has passed it up.

king of all? are you insane?best GPU? maybe of consoles --- buddy you better get your facts right if you wanna keep afloat in here.

can you please elaborate - you're making little to no sense to me. if you want to argue then make your counterpoint, seeing i left the original argument dead in the water.

Ok, let's try this. What game looked better than Gears when Gears released?
What GPU was better than the 360's when the 360 launched?

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

actually i dont consider either of them exclusives,but thats because neither of them are exclusives for any platform

Verge_6

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then. You have your views on the matter, I have mine.

thatsone of the more respectable comments ive seen, ill agree

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="whyamisogood716"]does anyone care if its a AAA or ZZZ. xbla is the best gaming community on earth. where else are you going to play nearly 5million subscribers at any given moment. that is maintained.whyamisogood716

pc?

i will never count pc. here's why. why would anyone count a pc, because everytime a new game comes out you gotta upgrade it, or a new piece of hardware comes out you have to add it. its a ripp off. when the same game comes out for the console i have to do nothing. who plays on a keyboard and mouse anymore. that is a dying breed my friend. the dollar bill will close the gap to nell. it will not be worth it, to get the same gaming experience you;'ll get on a console.

it still doesnt matter if you cant play on YOUR PC, someone else can...and its funny how there are almost just as many people playing WOW as there are 360's sold in total... dying breed my ass

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

No it wasn't. The so-called Myth is that PC gaming costs a lot to get the SAME quality experience that the reviewer gets. or to run the game like the video shows. No one is interested in a game with medium settings. Sure they may be decent, but this is system wars and we are gragging about the great graphcis then we need to say the PC/video card required to run it is defnitely high-end. All games on consoles are ran at the best experience posible for the user (well depends on monitor attached, but that applies to both PCs and consoles). The PC game often needs to be ran on lowest settings or medium settings for many/most PC gamers.

When the review score reflects what the lowest common denominator on the PC is to play the game then we can call it even. In other words...Hermits don't brag about PC graphics on max...brag about them on the minimum requirements for the machine. Now if we want to just say PCs are more flexible than consoles, then obviously I agre and that's my point...comparing PCs to consoles is like comparing apples and oranges. It can be done, but they are both very very different experiences.

mikasa

well this argument totally fails seeing that NO consoles can run games with the equivalent of PC high settings.

also fails because your point just isn't true. most if not all PC games are reviewed based on recommended system settings, which is what the game is designed for. it's not like they use a dual 8800 SLI with quad CPUs to test it out.

also fails because most PC gamers aren't pure visual whores - they don't mind taking some concessions in terms of visuals to get an extra few fps to get an edge in multi. at least they have the option - unlike some PS3 games and 360 games that are set above their capacity and chug like fat men in a race for the Last Burrito.

also fails because PC games get score reductions for poor performance on recommended settings.

there are numerous other reasons why this fails.

PC will always be a competitor in system wars - that's the biggest reason it fails, you can all spout it out until you're blue in the face, but the fact is PC's are GAMING PLATFORMS. deal with it - m'kay?

Gears disagrees with you. When it released it was king of all. Of course Crysis will pass that up, but when 360 launched it had the best GPU out. Of course now PC has passed it up.

king of all? are you insane?best GPU? maybe of consoles --- buddy you better get your facts right if you wanna keep afloat in here.

can you please elaborate - you're making little to no sense to me. if you want to argue then make your counterpoint, seeing i left the original argument dead in the water.

Ok, let's try this. What game looked better than Gears when Gears released?
What GPU was better than the 360's when the 360 launched?

im sure there was someone out there that had oblivion running on PC that looked better then gears at the time of its release

[QUOTE="mikasa"]Ok, let's try this. What game looked better than Gears when Gears released?
What GPU was better than the 360's when the 360 launched?

hyperboy152000

im sure there was someone out there that had oblivion running on PC that looked better then gears at the time of its release

Phail.

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="whyamisogood716"]does anyone care if its a AAA or ZZZ. xbla is the best gaming community on earth. where else are you going to play nearly 5million subscribers at any given moment. that is maintained.whyamisogood716

pc?

i will never count pc. here's why. why would anyone count a pc, because everytime a new game comes out you gotta upgrade it, or a new piece of hardware comes out you have to add it. its a ripp off. when the same game comes out for the console i have to do nothing. who plays on a keyboard and mouse anymore. that is a dying breed my friend. the dollar bill will close the gap to nell. it will not be worth it, to get the same gaming experience you;'ll get on a console.

my pc must be magical and special because i've had it for a year and a half and can stillplay every new game without a single upgrade. :o

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

No it wasn't. The so-called Myth is that PC gaming costs a lot to get the SAME quality experience that the reviewer gets. or to run the game like the video shows. No one is interested in a game with medium settings. Sure they may be decent, but this is system wars and we are gragging about the great graphcis then we need to say the PC/video card required to run it is defnitely high-end. All games on consoles are ran at the best experience posible for the user (well depends on monitor attached, but that applies to both PCs and consoles). The PC game often needs to be ran on lowest settings or medium settings for many/most PC gamers.

When the review score reflects what the lowest common denominator on the PC is to play the game then we can call it even. In other words...Hermits don't brag about PC graphics on max...brag about them on the minimum requirements for the machine. Now if we want to just say PCs are more flexible than consoles, then obviously I agre and that's my point...comparing PCs to consoles is like comparing apples and oranges. It can be done, but they are both very very different experiences.

mikasa

well this argument totally fails seeing that NO consoles can run games with the equivalent of PC high settings.

also fails because your point just isn't true. most if not all PC games are reviewed based on recommended system settings, which is what the game is designed for. it's not like they use a dual 8800 SLI with quad CPUs to test it out.

also fails because most PC gamers aren't pure visual whores - they don't mind taking some concessions in terms of visuals to get an extra few fps to get an edge in multi. at least they have the option - unlike some PS3 games and 360 games that are set above their capacity and chug like fat men in a race for the Last Burrito.

also fails because PC games get score reductions for poor performance on recommended settings.

there are numerous other reasons why this fails.

PC will always be a competitor in system wars - that's the biggest reason it fails, you can all spout it out until you're blue in the face, but the fact is PC's are GAMING PLATFORMS. deal with it - m'kay?

Gears disagrees with you. When it released it was king of all. Of course Crysis will pass that up, but when 360 launched it had the best GPU out. Of course now PC has passed it up.

king of all? are you insane?best GPU? maybe of consoles --- buddy you better get your facts right if you wanna keep afloat in here.

can you please elaborate - you're making little to no sense to me. if you want to argue then make your counterpoint, seeing i left the original argument dead in the water.

Ok, let's try this. What game looked better than Gears when Gears released?
What GPU was better than the 360's when the 360 launched?

I asked for a counterpoint, not two questions unrelated to your main argument. don't try to change the topic.

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"][QUOTE="mikasa"]Ok, let's try this. What game looked better than Gears when Gears released?
What GPU was better than the 360's when the 360 launched?

mikasa

im sure there was someone out there that had oblivion running on PC that looked better then gears at the time of its release

Phail.

well i think you just proved that you're not worth arguing with, lol. good point Mikasa, good point. Phail > than all arguments, you t0tally pwn3d h1m. wtg hero.

[QUOTE="whyamisogood716"][QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="whyamisogood716"]does anyone care if its a AAA or ZZZ. xbla is the best gaming community on earth. where else are you going to play nearly 5million subscribers at any given moment. that is maintained.CaseyWegner

pc?

i will never count pc. here's why. why would anyone count a pc, because everytime a new game comes out you gotta upgrade it, or a new piece of hardware comes out you have to add it. its a ripp off. when the same game comes out for the console i have to do nothing. who plays on a keyboard and mouse anymore. that is a dying breed my friend. the dollar bill will close the gap to nell. it will not be worth it, to get the same gaming experience you;'ll get on a console.

my pc must be magical and special because i've had it for a year and a half and can stillplay every new game without a single upgrade. :o

On MAX settings and How much was it?

that only a matter of opinion... and while the whole exclusivity debate is not opinion but more or less fact considering that if you can play a game on more then one system with more or less the same stuff its not exclusive no matter what platform its on... but in direct response to your post, when talking about scores your right, but the 360 still didnt have a must own AAA game until geow came outhyperboy152000

Wow. You must either not be much of a gamer or have some weird tastes when it comes to games. Are you saying that:

Dead Rising, Oblivion, GRAW, COD2, Kameo, NFS:MW, PGR3, FNR3, Burnout Revenge, Condemned, Chromehounds, Prey, Saints Row, Test Drive Unlimited, Splinter Cell Double Agent, F.E.A.R., and DOA4 were ALL bad games??? All of these were released prior to Gears and are great games in their own right.

[QUOTE="whyamisogood716"][QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="whyamisogood716"]does anyone care if its a AAA or ZZZ. xbla is the best gaming community on earth. where else are you going to play nearly 5million subscribers at any given moment. that is maintained.CaseyWegner

pc?

i will never count pc. here's why. why would anyone count a pc, because everytime a new game comes out you gotta upgrade it, or a new piece of hardware comes out you have to add it. its a ripp off. when the same game comes out for the console i have to do nothing. who plays on a keyboard and mouse anymore. that is a dying breed my friend. the dollar bill will close the gap to nell. it will not be worth it, to get the same gaming experience you;'ll get on a console.

my pc must be magical and special because i've had it for a year and a half and can stillplay every new game without a single upgrade. :o

But all you are ever playing is WoW...

This all only matters if you care about exclusives.

In the end , it's the fanboy that cares about a game being only on his system, and not a gamer, who simply cares to play it.

TheCrazed420

if GRAW is a 360 exclusive, then NGS is a ps3 exclusive, simple as thatermacness

No, because...

Ugh, just read my post regarding this. Tired of posting it over and over again.

if GRAW is a 360 exclusive, then NGS is a ps3 exclusive, simple as thatermacness

then ninja gaiden was never exclusive for the xbox to begin with cause ninja gaiden was a nes game. :o

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]that only a matter of opinion... and while the whole exclusivity debate is not opinion but more or less fact considering that if you can play a game on more then one system with more or less the same stuff its not exclusive no matter what platform its on... but in direct response to your post, when talking about scores your right, but the 360 still didnt have a must own AAA game until geow came outREVENGEotSITH

Wow. You must either not be much of a gamer or have some weird tastes when it comes to games. Are you saying that:

Dead Rising, Oblivion, GRAW, COD2, Kameo, NFS:MW, PGR3, FNR3, Burnout Revenge, Condemned, Chromehounds, Prey, Saints Row, Test Drive Unlimited, Splinter Cell Double Agent, F.E.A.R., and DOA4 were ALL bad games??? All of these were released prior to Gears and are great games in their own right.

are any of those game AAA.... im not saying that they are bad games.... but geow imo was the first breakout AAAsuccess for the 360, btw im a PC gamer

but it got 6 AAA games and about 40 AA games.

In the end thats all that matters.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="whyamisogood716"][QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="whyamisogood716"]does anyone care if its a AAA or ZZZ. xbla is the best gaming community on earth. where else are you going to play nearly 5million subscribers at any given moment. that is maintained.mikasa

pc?

i will never count pc. here's why. why would anyone count a pc, because everytime a new game comes out you gotta upgrade it, or a new piece of hardware comes out you have to add it. its a ripp off. when the same game comes out for the console i have to do nothing. who plays on a keyboard and mouse anymore. that is a dying breed my friend. the dollar bill will close the gap to nell. it will not be worth it, to get the same gaming experience you;'ll get on a console.

my pc must be magical and special because i've had it for a year and a half and can stillplay every new game without a single upgrade. :o

On MAX settings and How much was it?

can you get over this 'max' settings garbage? games aren't reviewed on max settings, they're reviewed on recommended settings. just like your 360 / PS3 aren't running games at peak visual fidelity.

graphics are better on PC - fact. even on medium settings / or recommended settings they trounce console versions. take a look at Fear, or Oblivion, or any other port you want. find me one that looks better on consoles at the SAME resolution as PC.

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][

king of all? are you insane?best GPU? maybe of consoles --- buddy you better get your facts right if you wanna keep afloat in here.

can you please elaborate - you're making little to no sense to me. if you want to argue then make your counterpoint, seeing i left the original argument dead in the water.

3picuri3

Ok, let's try this. What game looked better than Gears when Gears released?
What GPU was better than the 360's when the 360 launched?

I asked for a counterpoint, not two questions unrelated to your main argument. don't try to change the topic.

Huh? You said "Kinf of all? Are you insane""

So my counterpoint is proving it was the best graphics of all games when it released. Surely the PC would have several games that looked better (I'm not talking CGI either), so it shouldn't be too hard to do if I'm insane for thinking Gears was the best looking game. Go ahead, please post at least 3 games. Or am I the sane one?

Same applies for the GPU. This will be more debateable as I'm sure you'll throw the Nvidia card that was availabe at the time, but go for it...let's see what it yields.

And that is my counterpoint. If you're saying you know a game that's better looking than gears...then it's your move to prove it by at least telling me what game(s) it is.

But all you are ever playing is WoW...

REVENGEotSITH

i quit that over a month ago. :)

[QUOTE="ermacness"]if GRAW is a 360 exclusive, then NGS is a ps3 exclusive, simple as thatVerge_6

No, because...

Ugh, just read my post regarding this. Tired of posting it over and over again.

actually im with you on this one...ninja gaiden sigma is the same game but with more stuff in it as the xbox versions wereas graw was made completey different on the platforms it was released on

[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

But all you are ever playing is WoW...

CaseyWegner

i quit that over a month ago. :)

[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

But all you are ever playing is WoW...

CaseyWegner

i quit that over a month ago. :)

Tell me, is the withdrawal as bad as I have heard it is?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]if GRAW is a 360 exclusive, then NGS is a ps3 exclusive, simple as thathyperboy152000

No, because...

Ugh, just read my post regarding this. Tired of posting it over and over again.

actually im with you on this one...ninja gaiden sigma is the same game but with more stuff in it as the xbox versions wereas graw was made completey different on the platforms it was released on

On MAX settings and How much was it?

mikasa

on max settings? no. why does it need to be? $2.5k

Phail.mikasa

wow a one worded statment that has absolutely no merit what so ever...i want you to refute what i said based on the fact that at the time someone somewhere may have had oblivion running on the pc that looked better then geow...prove me wrong

[QUOTE="Agent-of-Evil"]

Multiplatform titles don't count I guess.

So 360 has PDZ and Forza... And the gamespot reviewer was drunk writing the review so PDZ shouldnt have been a 9. Not ever. Game sucked balls.

mikasa

Still Gears is ONLY on the 360. We don't know how it will translate to the PC. Also Graw is a completely different game than GRAW PC. they only share the same name. Count it if you like or don't. but those that play it know it's a different (and better) game on the 360.

GEARS should be far better on PC, if history tells us anything about EPIC, who are amazing PC developers to begin with. Mods/Maps/Extra Content/Better Looking/Mouse+Keyboard or Controller options etc..etc..all add up to a better version, as Epic even said in the recent GFW magazine article.

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]that only a matter of opinion... and while the whole exclusivity debate is not opinion but more or less fact considering that if you can play a game on more then one system with more or less the same stuff its not exclusive no matter what platform its on... but in direct response to your post, when talking about scores your right, but the 360 still didnt have a must own AAA game until geow came outREVENGEotSITH

Wow. You must either not be much of a gamer or have some weird tastes when it comes to games. Are you saying that:

Dead Rising, Oblivion, GRAW, COD2, Kameo, NFS:MW, PGR3, FNR3, Burnout Revenge, Condemned, Chromehounds, Prey, Saints Row, Test Drive Unlimited, Splinter Cell Double Agent, F.E.A.R., and DOA4 were ALL bad games??? All of these were released prior to Gears and are great games in their own right.

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]my pc must be magical and special because i've had it for a year and a half and can stillplay every new game without a single upgrade. :o

3picuri3

On MAX settings and How much was it?

can you get over this 'max' settings garbage? games aren't reviewed on max settings, they're reviewed on recommended settings. just like your 360 / PS3 aren't running games at peak visual fidelity.

graphics are better on PC - fact. even on medium settings / or recommended settings they trounce console versions. take a look at Fear, or Oblivion, or any other port you want. find me one that looks better on consoles at the SAME resolution as PC.

Huh? My 360 plays all the games on max settings. I'm sure you'd like me to drop it as it does expose the huge hole in the PC argument. You can't be cheapest and best looking at the same time.

And tell me one game that on medium setting looks better than gears of war?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

But all you are ever playing is WoW...

Verge_6

i quit that over a month ago. :)

Tell me, is the withdrawal as bad as I have heard it is?

not for me. i wasn't still enjoying it when i decided to quit.

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]if GRAW is a 360 exclusive, then NGS is a ps3 exclusive, simple as thatVerge_6

No, because...

Ugh, just read my post regarding this. Tired of posting it over and over again.

actually im with you on this one...ninja gaiden sigma is the same game but with more stuff in it as the xbox versions wereas graw was made completey different on the platforms it was released on

well neither of the aformented titles where made by the same dev teams as the originals, but still the point is... well you know

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][

king of all? are you insane?best GPU? maybe of consoles --- buddy you better get your facts right if you wanna keep afloat in here.

can you please elaborate - you're making little to no sense to me. if you want to argue then make your counterpoint, seeing i left the original argument dead in the water.

mikasa

Ok, let's try this. What game looked better than Gears when Gears released?
What GPU was better than the 360's when the 360 launched?

I asked for a counterpoint, not two questions unrelated to your main argument. don't try to change the topic.

Huh? You said "Kinf of all? Are you insane""

So my counterpoint is proving it was the best graphics of all games when it released. Surely the PC would have several games that looked better (I'm not talking CGI either), so it shouldn't be too hard to do if I'm insane for thinking Gears was the best looking game. Go ahead, please post at least 3 games. Or am I the sane one?

Same applies for the GPU. This will be more debateable as I'm sure you'll throw the Nvidia card that was availabe at the time, but go for it...let's see what it yields.

And that is my counterpoint. If you're saying you know a game that's better looking than gears...then it's your move to prove it by at least telling me what game(s) it is.

I can help you, it's called Flight Sim X, which is better looking than anything and everything else out there with a super rig.