$399 PC to take on the PlayStation 4

then crysis 3 be about 10-20$ lol

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] You are a fool the intergrated graphics chip APU can run graphics higher than crysis 3 on ps3/360pcgamingowns

we're not comparing it to ps3

it can't even produce a playable frame rate @1080 on med.  maybe it can at 720 at low

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

http://www.ascendtech.us/amd-a10-6800k-desktop-computer-system_i_dtwamda106800k1.aspx

lostrib

no

+1

Kaveri will be the first suitable APU for next-gen gaming. We'd be waiting 1-2 more releases to get to PS4 level, so maybe 1-2yrs. from now. 

APUs are cool, and you can get some great performance boost with hybrid xfire in titles like Crysis and Battlefield, but I wouldn't recommend them for a core gamer just yet. 

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

we're not comparing it to ps3

lostrib

it can't even produce a playable frame rate @1080 on med.  maybe it can at 720 at low

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

http://www.ascendtech.us/amd-a10-6800k-desktop-computer-system_i_dtwamda106800k1.aspx

gamecubepad

no

+1

Kaveri will be the first suitable APU for next-gen gaming. We'd be waiting 1-2 more releases to get to PS4 level, so maybe 1-2yrs. from now. 

APUs are cool, and you can get some great performance boost with hybrid xfire in titles like Crysis and Battlefield, but I wouldn't recommend them for a core gamer just yet. 

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] still run it with better graphics than killzone shadows fall.pcgamingowns

it can't even produce a playable frame rate @1080 on med.  maybe it can at 720 at low

whatever makes you feel better, heeeeweee

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

it can't even produce a playable frame rate @1080 on med.  maybe it can at 720 at low

lostrib

whatever makes you feel better, heeeeweee

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] the graphics will still beat killzone shadows fall.pcgamingowns

whatever makes you feel better, heeeeweee

he's playing with most settings at low, a few medium. And has like a 30% overclock on the iGPU. and barely gets 30fps

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

whatever makes you feel better, heeeeweee

lostrib

he's playing with most settings at low, a few medium. And has like a 30% overclock on the iGPU. and barely gets 30fps

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7EkX-oqLVc 1080p buy the time you buy acouple 60$ games +2 years of ps+=paid for a 7970 smoke ps4pcgamingowns

he's playing with most settings at low, a few medium. And has like a 30% overclock on the iGPU. and barely gets 30fps

:roll:i don't know why i try.

and that site will have it for 399pcgamingowns

There's a lot of things missing in that build for $399, and having an APU+GPU xfire htpc myself, I can tell you that you're gonna run into some serious memory bandwidth problems for that APU going with DDR3-1333.

With KB/M, optical drive, and upgraded RAM+PSU you'll be looking more like $450. At that point you might as well drop another $50-60 and get a system built around a 7790 that includes 3 free games right now. Going APU in anything but a htpc sff build is backwards and more costly for less power. 

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]and that site will have it for 399gamecubepad

There's a lot of things missing in that build for $399, and having an APU+GPU xfire htpc myself, I can tell you that you're gonna run into some serious memory bandwidth problems for that APU going with DDR3-1333.

With KB/M, optical drive, and upgraded RAM+PSU you'll be looking more like $450. At that point you might as well drop another $50-60 and get a system built around a 7790 that includes 3 free games right now. Going APU in anything but a htpc sff build is backwards and more costly for less power. 

This is the powersupply that pc comes with.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3255391

This will power a 7970 actually.

LOL

Now people are arguing with the eternal ban dodger.

LOL

Now people are arguing with the eternal ban dodger.

glez13

plus the pc does a hell of alot more than your goddamn ps4.

LOL

Now people are arguing with the eternal ban dodger.

glez13

This is the powersupply that pc comes with.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3255391

This will power a 7970 actually.

pcgamingowns

who the hell doesnt have a keyboard and mouse? most everyone here does from their old shitty pc. you can digitally buy the game dont need optical hdd bandwidth=no issue on main ram and the powersupply is fine i know what it comes with.pcgamingowns

Poor damage control. 

Here's WoW on Trinity, which is a perfect game for this level of gfx power...

A 18% drop in frames in this case shows how critical memory bandwidth is.

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Here's Richland taking on Tomb Raider at 1080p, a game with plenty of advanced "next-gen" features.

"Normal" presets yields 17fps, or completely unplayable rates. Now this is with DDR3-1600 in the testbed, so with DDR3-1333 it would be even worse.

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]who the hell doesnt have a keyboard and mouse? most everyone here does from their old shitty pc. you can digitally buy the game dont need optical hdd bandwidth=no issue on main ram and the powersupply is fine i know what it comes with.gamecubepad

Poor damage control. 

Here's WoW on Trinity, which is a perfect game for this level of gfx power...

A 18% drop in frames in this case shows how critical memory bandwidth is.

---

Here's Richland taking on Tomb Raider at 1080p, a game with plenty of advanced "next-gen" features.

"Normal" presets yields 17fps, or completely unplayable rates. Now this is with DDR3-1600 in the testbed, so with DDR3-1333 it would be even worse.

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

This is the powersupply that pc comes with.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3255391

This will power a 7970 actually.

MonsieurX

spend alittle more get a hell of alot more

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

This is the powersupply that pc comes with.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3255391

This will power a 7970 actually.

pcgamingowns

The hell you won't!

Running a 7970 on a low quality 400 W PSU is a recipe for a disaster... that thing would blow up in less than a week.

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Have fun frying your whole PCRocker6

The hell you won't!

Running a 7970 on a low quality 400 W PSU is a recipe for a disaster... that thing would blow up in less than a week.

It's possible I think. But what does it matter? You will still not be able to play console exclusives.

You won't play games like the last of us on a pc, if you're pc only, you're missing out...on almost everything.

Suppaman100

PC has more exclusives than all the consoles combined, so it's ironic that you say such a stupid statement.  If you're console only, you're missing out on more games actually.  Herp Derp

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] you wontpcgamingowns

The hell you won't!

Running a 7970 on a low quality 400 W PSU is a recipe for a disaster... that thing would blow up in less than a week.

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

The hell you won't!

Running a 7970 on a low quality 400 W PSU is a recipe for a disaster... that thing would blow up in less than a week.

MonsieurX

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

The hell you won't!

Running a 7970 on a low quality 400 W PSU is a recipe for a disaster... that thing would blow up in less than a week.

MonsieurX

Yep... look at that, 20A on a +12V rail... that's only 240W, a horrible PSU.

This would be a nice little disaster, that thing would put your damn house on fire.

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] it's not a low quality powersupply it's actually a very good single rail powersupply with a lifetime warranty. they overrate the power usage on cards never hit the power draw they claim.Rocker6

Yep... look at that, 20A on a +12V rail... that's only 240W, a horrible PSU.

This would be a nice little disaster, that thing would put your damn house on fire.

had 180$ psu shittier than this 40$ psu lol.

single rail powersupply>>>dualrail

it's almost like when a car maker rates engine at hp at the flywheel instead of at the wheels ohh this car's 200 hp at the fly but really only pushing 100 and some at the rear wheels.

worst case scenario.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"] It is. Guess why the low pricepcgamingowns

Yep... look at that, 20A on a +12V rail... that's only 240W, a horrible PSU.

This would be a nice little disaster, that thing would put your damn house on fire.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Discuss the post, not the poster.lowe0

or what?

oh gawd, shut up, you're putting everyone to sleep

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Yep... look at that, 20A on a +12V rail... that's only 240W, a horrible PSU.

This would be a nice little disaster, that thing would put your damn house on fire.

MonsieurX

Yeah...

I'm out... have better things to do than argue with the eternal bandodger...

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Yep... look at that, 20A on a +12V rail... that's only 240W, a horrible PSU.

This would be a nice little disaster, that thing would put your damn house on fire.

MonsieurX

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

or what?

Rage010101

oh gawd, shut up, you're putting everyone to sleep

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Or you commit a logical fallacy (ad hominem). I mean, I guess if you're trying to lose, you could do that, but it seems odd that you'd hand a victory to the enemy that easily.lowe0

oh gawd, shut up, you're putting everyone to sleep

well if they are attributing value to those functions, then obviously the do need or want them

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] nope you have no clue. graphics cards never hit their peak power usage applications dont push em enough. run 7970 with easepcgamingowns

stop telling people this crap, before someone actually believes you

by the time you buy all this shit for console might aswell bought a amd fx 8 core pc for 400$ and buy a 7970 and u wouldnt even have to upgrade the powersupply.