4K Gaming..........Teh Future

Lock if old. MS has stated that this will be the console for the next 10 years. In this life cycle 1080p may become a thing of the past and 4K may become the norm. This article discusses how 4k gaming will be supported on the X1 and not on the PS4. I don't know how they plan on doing this but it seems interesting. Yes the PS4 will support 4K but only for pictures and video that was recorded in 4K.

http://www.stuff.tv/microsoft/sony-ps4-vs-xbox-one-4k-war-begins/feature

"We are delivering a home entertainment system for the next generation and will support 4K for games and entertainment. Well share more details later on 4K content for Xbox One." Xbox Spokesperson.

Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida told Joystiq back in February that PS4 games do not play in 4K, despite confirming that 4K video support will be present.

Get ready for PS2 graphics at pointless 4k

4K won't become popular for at least 5 to 10 years. By then there'll probably be a successor to the PS4. Kjranu

HDMI currently only supports 24fps at 4k so good look with all them quality games at 4k.APiranhaAteMyVa

Get ready for PS2 graphics at pointless 4k

KillzoneSnake

Teh Miraculous Monster Box confirmed :P

Wouldn't the memory bandwidth of using ddr3 as video ram be a big problem at that high of a resolution as well? I know on pcs the gap widens in fps at higher resolutions with slower and faster cards.AutoPilotOn

Let's see them manage to support 1080p before we start fantasizing.

Lock if old. MS has stated that this will be the console for the next 10 years. In this life cycle 1080p may become a thing of the past and 4K may become the norm. This article discusses how 4k gaming will be supported on the X1 and not on the PS4. I don't know how they plan on doing this but it seems interesting. Yes the PS4 will support 4K but only for pictures and video that was recorded in 4K.

http://www.stuff.tv/microsoft/sony-ps4-vs-xbox-one-4k-war-begins/feature

"We are delivering a home entertainment system for the next generation and will support 4K for games and entertainment. Well share more details later on 4K content for Xbox One." Xbox Spokesperson.

 

Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida told Joystiq back in February that PS4 games do not play in 4K, despite confirming that 4K video support will be present.

FoxbatAlpha

Titanfall can't even hit 1080p with crappy graphics,so that should tell you a thing or 2 about 4K on xbox,maybe running Double Dragon from 1980's or ghost and goblings..:lol:

Wouldn't the memory bandwidth of using ddr3 as video ram be a big problem at that high of a resolution as well? I know on pcs the gap widens in fps at higher resolutions with slower and faster cards.AutoPilotOn

32MB of ESRAM is not enough frame buffer for 4k and when you join it with 16 ROP even less.

Unless MS have chips to upscale games to that resolution,which is not the same as been 4K and upscale from 1080p or even lower to 4K would be horrible.

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"]

Lock if old. MS has stated that this will be the console for the next 10 years. In this life cycle 1080p may become a thing of the past and 4K may become the norm. This article discusses how 4k gaming will be supported on the X1 and not on the PS4. I don't know how they plan on doing this but it seems interesting. Yes the PS4 will support 4K but only for pictures and video that was recorded in 4K.

http://www.stuff.tv/microsoft/sony-ps4-vs-xbox-one-4k-war-begins/feature

"We are delivering a home entertainment system for the next generation and will support 4K for games and entertainment. Well share more details later on 4K content for Xbox One." Xbox Spokesperson.

 

Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida told Joystiq back in February that PS4 games do not play in 4K, despite confirming that 4K video support will be present.

tormentos

Titanfall can't even hit 1080p with crappy graphics,so that should tell you a thing or 2 about 4K on xbox,maybe running Double Dragon from 1980's or ghost and goblings..:lol:

4K won't become popular for at least 5 to 10 years. By then there'll probably be a successor to the PS4. Kjranu

[QUOTE="Kjranu"]4K won't become popular for at least 5 to 10 years. By then there'll probably be a successor to the PS4. Ninja-Hippo

It could be 5 yrs until 4k tv's are readily available at normal price levels, current models are anythin up to 4k(;)) more expensive than even the best 1080p models.

It will take at least 10 years before we see 4K in our household.

4k gaming will be only on PC's

More than likely most next gen games will be aiming for 720p in the next few years to push better graphics

I thought about waiting to purchase a 4k TV last year when I was looking to build my theatre room, but I ended up sticking to 1080p. I figured I invest a lot of my time in video games, bluray movies and cable TV which I've amassed quite a bit of; 4k would be pointless for quite some time.

Games have barely hit the surface @ 1080p. The latest dvd format is Blu-ray which is @ 1080p and Cable TV is @ 720p.

Maybe 10 years from now I'll decide to invest in one, but for now I'm loving my Sharp Elite and can't wait to see these next gen consoles.

Ye Pong at 4k!

4 years after last gen PC gamers were mostly playing at 1080p

Console gamers said 1080p didn't matter.

Now, theya re pissed if ALL next gen titles aren't 1080p, saying how 1080p is ESSENTIAL.

In 4 years, PC gamers will be playing at 1440p, 1600p and 4K.

Console gamers will say that 1600p and 4K don't matter......

4 years after last gen PC gamers were mostly playing at 1080p

 

Console gamers said 1080p didn't matter.

 

Now, theya re pissed if ALL next gen titles aren't 1080p, saying how 1080p is ESSENTIAL.

 

In 4 years, PC gamers will be playing at 1440p, 1600p and 4K.

 

Console gamers will say that 1600p and 4K don't matter......

Kinthalis

Can already play at 4K and beyond. Just needs a beefy system.

Let's see them manage to support 1080p before we start fantasizing.

KungfuKitten

I think people underestimate the power needed for 4K and decent graphics. The pixel amount is 4 times higher than 1080P. There's absolutely no way anything over PS2 levels of graphics will run at that resolution on either next gen console.

You should be happy that 1080P might finally become the standard.

At such a high res HDMI starts to become a bottleneck. I think 4K and 30 hz is the maximum you'll get with HDMI 1.4 right now. They're currently working on HDMI 2.0 which will support 4K and 60 Hz.

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

4 years after last gen PC gamers were mostly playing at 1080p

 

Console gamers said 1080p didn't matter.

 

Now, theya re pissed if ALL next gen titles aren't 1080p, saying how 1080p is ESSENTIAL.

 

In 4 years, PC gamers will be playing at 1440p, 1600p and 4K.

 

Console gamers will say that 1600p and 4K don't matter......

Consternated

Can already play at 4K and beyond. Just needs a beefy system.

I think he meant that the majority will be.

Yeah, I am aware of what is going on at present. Maybe you should just clean your basement today.FoxbatAlpha

That is the thing where i live basement are not popular very few houses have those,is any in my country houses are mostly build in cement and concrete and since is hot the wheater basement are just not something people want to do,do to lack of air flow.

4k gaming will not happen for at least 10 years.

Modern day HD only requires simple equipment that supports it. 4k on the other hand will require a lot more horsepower to play games.

Like the PS4 will do 4k, 4k video that is. So you can watch 4k movies on it, but you cant play 4k games because the difference between watching a movie and playing a game are seperate things. Even a 2500 dollar PC right now cant do 4k gaming, well maybe if you gamed on 12inch screen it could.

So yes if you mean it is the future as in like 10 years in the future or more, you might be right. But the future as in the immediate future? No way.

[QUOTE="Kjranu"]4K won't become popular for at least 5 to 10 years. By then there'll probably be a successor to the PS4. FoxbatAlpha

1080p still isnt the standard to do this day. 720 is. Sure there is hardware to support it allover the place, but most games and HD broadcast channels are still in 720 because there is no real world benefit to having 1080p over 720. Going from SD to HD is staggering, but going from 720 to 1080p isnt noticeable really.

And the reason why HD took off so quickly is because of how amazingly better it was. Going from a cd crt to a hd lcd tv was amazing. Going from 1080 to 4k is impressive but it isnt as mind blowing as it was going from sd to hd. But even then it didnt happen as quickly as you think it did. Hell they HD tvs at circut city for years before anyone really knew what hd was, I remember seeing a demo of Antz running on one when it came out on dvd originally it took another 6 or 8 years before 1080p tvs were cheap enough to pile up in walmart.

If you came over to my house and I was watching a movie or playing a game in 720 you wouldnt know the difference if I told you it was 1080p and dont even pretend like you couldnt.

 

Like the PS4 will do 4k, 4k video that is. So you can watch 4k movies on it, but you cant play 4k games because the difference between watching a movie and playing a game are seperate things. Even a 2500 dollar PC right now cant do 4k gaming, well maybe if you gamed on 12inch screen it could.

Gargus

I don't think you understand how resolution works. 4K is 4K, regardless of the screen size. Could be 12 inches could 100 inches. It's still 4K.

And PC's CAN run games at 4K. Dirt 3 can be maxed out at 4K by a single GTX 780. Of course, if you're looking to max out Crysis 3 at 4K 60 FPS, you'll need two more GTX 780's :)

But that still bring the price of a PC that cna do it, today, at below $2,000.

As I've said before, I think the majority of PC gamers will be running at 1440p in 3 years time, with the second larges group at 1080p. 1600p will also start to see a push by then, and some crazy PC gamers will be sporting 4K displays with monster rigs. More power to them.

In 5 years, I think 1440p and 1600p will be most common, 1080p, fairly common, 4K will start to be showed off on gaming forum boards all over the place, like multi-monitor gaming is now, with manufacturers, starting to pay attention. Basically 4K wil be like 1440p is today. A niche market, but niche in a gmaing community of over a 100 million, is still significant.

Been running 1080p for a long time, looking into moving to 1440p after I build my new rig this fall.

This Gen (PS3, 360):

- 1080p upscaling, games rendered lower than 1080p natively

- No 4K support

Next Gen (X1, PS4):

- 1080p more common, but some games run lower and upscaled to 1080p

- basic 4k upscaling support, no native 4k resolution games

Next, Next Gen (X2?, PS5):

- some 4K native gaming, many games still upscaled from 1080p

- nothing runs less than 1080p and older tvs will just have downscaled images

After that:

- All native 4K standard

4K?..What a joke...Great read on how it's just BS.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57366319-221/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/ 

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"] Yeah, I am aware of what is going on at present. Maybe you should just clean your basement today.tormentos

That is the thing where i live basement are not popular very few houses have those,is any in my country houses are mostly build in cement and concrete and since is hot the wheater basement are just not something people want to do,do to lack of air flow.

MS has stated that this will be the console for the next 10 years. In this life cycle 1080p may become a thing of the past and 4K may become the norm.

FoxbatAlpha

if you run something at 4k, the poly counts for all your models has to drastically be lowered better to just get something that looks better even if it's not as sharp because it's more appealing especially on consoles pc do w/eJigglyWiggly_

Actually polycounts really isn't the bottleneck. It's shaders. Any per-pixel work suddenly goes up by a factor of 4. Sure, mesh detail and larger fields of view to accomodate all that detail also contribute, but per pixel effects would really hammer down on a GPU.

most laptops are already coming with connectors to output to 4k displays. Ninja-Hippo

That's for movies though. They can't render a game in 4k, a complex game that is. 

Technically you can make a 4k game for both xbox and PS4, you just have to cut off a lot of stuff that requires processing power.

Get ready for PS2 graphics at pointless 4k

KillzoneSnake

 

I don't think you understand how resolution works. 4K is 4K, regardless of the screen size. Could be 12 inches could 100 inches. It's still 4K.

And PC's CAN run games at 4K. Dirt 3 can be maxed out at 4K by a single GTX 780. Of course, if you're looking to max out Crysis 3 at 4K 60 FPS, you'll need two more GTX 780's :)

But that still bring the price of a PC that cna do it, today, at below $2,000.

As I've said before, I think the majority of PC gamers will be running at 1440p in 3 years time, with the second larges group at 1080p. 1600p will also start to see a push by then, and some crazy PC gamers will be sporting 4K displays with monster rigs. More power to them.

In 5 years, I think 1440p and 1600p will be most common, 1080p, fairly common, 4K will start to be showed off on gaming forum boards all over the place, like multi-monitor gaming is now, with manufacturers, starting to pay attention. Basically 4K wil be like 1440p is today. A niche market, but niche in a gmaing community of over a 100 million, is still significant.

Kinthalis

I find very hard to believe that you will achieve 60FPS on Crysis 3 max out at 4K dude using 2 780gtx.

It will take at least 10 years before we see 4K in our household.

sukraj

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

 

I don't think you understand how resolution works. 4K is 4K, regardless of the screen size. Could be 12 inches could 100 inches. It's still 4K.

And PC's CAN run games at 4K. Dirt 3 can be maxed out at 4K by a single GTX 780. Of course, if you're looking to max out Crysis 3 at 4K 60 FPS, you'll need two more GTX 780's :)

But that still bring the price of a PC that cna do it, today, at below $2,000.

As I've said before, I think the majority of PC gamers will be running at 1440p in 3 years time, with the second larges group at 1080p. 1600p will also start to see a push by then, and some crazy PC gamers will be sporting 4K displays with monster rigs. More power to them.

In 5 years, I think 1440p and 1600p will be most common, 1080p, fairly common, 4K will start to be showed off on gaming forum boards all over the place, like multi-monitor gaming is now, with manufacturers, starting to pay attention. Basically 4K wil be like 1440p is today. A niche market, but niche in a gmaing community of over a 100 million, is still significant.

tormentos

I find very hard to believe that you will achieve 60FPS on Crysis 3 max out at 4K dude using 2 780gtx.