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#601 todd2r_Partdeux
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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"][QUOTE="delta3074"]you are being dliberately awkward now, his link was sound, the 360 is about 1-2 million ahead of the Ps3 at that point, hasn't been 6 million since about 2008Meeeper282

Companies lie all the time. It may be illegal but it still happens. They are a company that's about to die. Who's to say they didn't fake those numbers to prevent further panic from inside the company? 6 million it is.

So you believe microsoft is telling the truth and sony is lying?

If sony was going to fake any numbers it would be the vita

Anybody have any other evidence? Please?
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#603 delta3074
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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"] Who knows. It's not concrete to me. 6 million it is.

you are being dliberately awkward now, his link was sound, the 360 is about 1-2 million ahead of the Ps3 at that point, hasn't been 6 million since about 2008

Companies lie all the time. It may be illegal but it still happens. They are a company that's about to die. Who's to say they didn't fake those numbers to prevent further panic from inside the company? 6 million it is.

They don't lie on there fiscal reports dude, thats serious Fraud, it's 2 million and quit frankly the Irony doesn't escape me, MS have had there best generation, SONY have had there worst, Yet still the 360 has failed to achieve what i would call a decisive victory against the Playstation, BOth consoles have done really well as far as the consumer is concerned, as far as being a commercial Success then the 360 is clearly the winner in that area but for the purpose of this thread they both have roughly the same Hardware sales and both have roughly the same amount of high rated exclusives.
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#604 Meeeper282
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[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"] Who knows. It's not concrete to me. 6 million it is. sts106mat

What is this... i don't even!!!!

oh hai pokemon266, you kept the charade of being a Nintendo fan only going for a day or two, but its clear you are back to the butthurt cow we all knew.

How am i a cow? oh dear god, you lemmings must be each others cousins

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#605 lundy86_4
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Anybody have any other evidence? Please?todd2r_Partdeux

No further evidence is necessary. Any further evidence regarding MS' numbers? Hey, they may have lost the lead, yet want to still remain ahead of the competition for appearances sake... Could have totally padded their numbers.

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#606 todd2r_Partdeux
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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"]Anybody have any other evidence? Please?lundy86_4

No further evidence is necessary. Any further evidence regarding MS' numbers? Hey, they may have lost the lead, yet want to still remain ahead of the competition for appearances sake... Could have totally padded their numbers.

MS has no reason to. They are not about to go bankrupt. They have no reason to lie. Sony on the other hand.....
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#607 lundy86_4
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MS has no reason to. They are not about to go bankrupt. They have no reason to lie. Sony on the other hand.....todd2r_Partdeux

I just gave you a reason. It's just as dumb as yours. I really had to try and dip my IQ for it.

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#608 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"] Who knows. It's not concrete to me. 6 million it is. sts106mat

What is this... i don't even!!!!

oh hai pokemon266, you kept the charade of being a Nintendo fan only going for a day or two, but its clear you are back to the butthurt cow we all knew.

cmon Mat, Todds being a total ass, you and i both know the gap is nowhere near 6 million
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#609 Meeeper282
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[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"] Who knows. It's not concrete to me. 6 million it is. sts106mat

What is this... i don't even!!!!

oh hai pokemon266, you kept the charade of being a Nintendo fan only going for a day or two, but its clear you are back to the butthurt cow we all knew.

no response :lol: guess that backfired right back at you :lol: :lol:

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#610 JohnnyCageMK
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:lol: cows still butthurt cause PS3 is 6 million behind 360 and probably 10 mil after the holiday season.

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#611 delta3074
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

What is this... i don't even!!!!

Meeeper282

oh hai pokemon266, you kept the charade of being a Nintendo fan only going for a day or two, but its clear you are back to the butthurt cow we all knew.

How am i a cow? oh dear god, you lemmings must be each others cousins

Mat isn't a lemming, he's like me, we hunt fanboys for fun.
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#612 lundy86_4
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:lol: cows still butthurt cause PS3 is 6 million behind 360 and probably 10 mil after the holiday season.

JohnnyCageMK

Stop being an idiot. Sony's Q1 2012 puts them at 66.7 million shipped units. I know Math is hard for you, but you should at least try adding the numbers. Links have been provided.

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#613 todd2r_Partdeux
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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"]MS has no reason to. They are not about to go bankrupt. They have no reason to lie. Sony on the other hand.....lundy86_4

I just gave you a reason. It's just as dumb as yours. I really had to try and dip my IQ for it.

Need more evidence. Anyone have another link? 6 million it is. Hell, it might even be more.
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#614 Meeeper282
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:lol: cows still butthurt cause PS3 is 6 million behind 360 and probably 10 mil after the holiday season.

JohnnyCageMK

Lemmings like you and todd are the reason why i'm defending the ps3, for once stop being a moron

matt isn't stupid, he is just butthurt

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#615 Bruce_Benzing
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:lol: cows still butthurt cause PS3 is 6 million behind 360 and probably 10 mil after the holiday season.

JohnnyCageMK

has Tori and Kuri influenced you so much you have to spin as bad as either one?

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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

:lol: cows still butthurt cause PS3 is 6 million behind 360 and probably 10 mil after the holiday season.

lundy86_4

Stop being an idiot. Sony's Q1 2012 puts them at 66.7 million shipped units. I know Math is hard for you, but you should at least try adding the numbers. Links have been provided.

PS3 has sold 63.9 deal with it.
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#617 lundy86_4
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Need more evidence. Anyone have another link? 6 million it is. Hell, it might even be more. todd2r_Partdeux

Most people try to act intelligent... It's a wonder why people actually want to act stupid. Unless you really are stupid, then :lol:

70 million - 66.7 million = 3.3 million. This does not include Sony's Q2 2012, from July to Sept, 2012.

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#618 lundy86_4
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PS3 has sold 63.9 deal with it.JohnnyCageMK

Nope. Stop trying too hard to fake it, you might pull something :lol:

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#619 todd2r_Partdeux
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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"]Need more evidence. Anyone have another link? 6 million it is. Hell, it might even be more. lundy86_4

Most people try to act intelligent... It's a wonder why people actually want to act stupid. Unless you really are stupid, then :lol:

70 million - 66.7 million = 3.3 million. This does not include Sony's Q2 2012, from July to Sept, 2012.

Where's the fact to back up those numbers?
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#620 JohnnyCageMK
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"]MS has no reason to. They are not about to go bankrupt. They have no reason to lie. Sony on the other hand.....todd2r_Partdeux

I just gave you a reason. It's just as dumb as yours. I really had to try and dip my IQ for it.

Need more evidence. Anyone have another link? 6 million it is. Hell, it might even be more.

I think it is more cause 360 sales must be even higher now that the holiday bundles are on sale and people buying 360s to get ready for Halo 4. Sony raised PS3 price to $270 so I doubt its selling at all right now.
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#621 Meeeper282
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Atleast we know your faking it now

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"]Need more evidence. Anyone have another link? 6 million it is. Hell, it might even be more. todd2r_Partdeux

Most people try to act intelligent... It's a wonder why people actually want to act stupid. Unless you really are stupid, then :lol:

70 million - 66.7 million = 3.3 million. This does not include Sony's Q2 2012, from July to Sept, 2012.

Where's the fact to back up those numbers?

MS released a statement, and Sony released their official Q1 2012 numbers. Try adding up the numbers, if it isn't too hard. Here.

inb4 "those numbers are the fakezz!!1!!"

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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I just gave you a reason. It's just as dumb as yours. I really had to try and dip my IQ for it.

JohnnyCageMK
Need more evidence. Anyone have another link? 6 million it is. Hell, it might even be more.

I think it is more cause 360 sales must be even higher now that the holiday bundles are on sale and people buying 360s to get ready for Halo 4. Sony raised PS3 price to $270 so I doubt its selling at all right now.

you two really are a joke, it's pretty obvious you are only here to wind people up,it's not clever you know, it's immature and purile, do us all a favour and do one,lol
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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Most people try to act intelligent... It's a wonder why people actually want to act stupid. Unless you really are stupid, then :lol:

70 million - 66.7 million = 3.3 million. This does not include Sony's Q2 2012, from July to Sept, 2012.

lundy86_4

Where's the fact to back up those numbers?

MS released a statement, and Sony released their official Q1 2012 numbers. Try adding up the numbers, if it isn't too hard. Here.

inb4 "those numbers are the fakezz!!1!!"

Well it would make sense to lie about the fiscal numbers to your shareholders, just to save face for their fanboys...:roll:

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#625 lundy86_4
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you two really are a joke, it's pretty obvious you are only here to wind people up,it's not clever you know, it's immature and purile, do us all a favour and do one,loldelta3074

Yep. It's even more amusing, because they seem to think we don't know they're being a couple of dinks :P

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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Most people try to act intelligent... It's a wonder why people actually want to act stupid. Unless you really are stupid, then :lol:

70 million - 66.7 million = 3.3 million. This does not include Sony's Q2 2012, from July to Sept, 2012.

lundy86_4

Where's the fact to back up those numbers?

MS released a statement, and Sony released their official Q1 2012 numbers. Try adding up the numbers, if it isn't too hard. Here.

inb4 "those numbers are the fakezz!!1!!"

That was already presented to me and I've already stated that its not concrete enough. Any other links?
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#627 lundy86_4
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Well it would make sense to lie about the fiscal numbers to your shareholders, just to save face for their fanboys...:roll:

Bruce_Benzing

Exactly. That jailtime would be well worth it.

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#628 lundy86_4
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That was already presented to me and I've already stated that its not concrete enough. Any other links?todd2r_Partdeux

Your lack of general intelligence isn't an excuse for saying evidence is not "concrete" enough :lol:

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[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]

Well it would make sense to lie about the fiscal numbers to your shareholders, just to save face for their fanboys...:roll:

lundy86_4

Exactly. That jailtime would be well worth it.

What are you in for?

Fraudulently skewing fiscal reports, so our fanboys can claim false victory.

Sounds about right...

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#630 delta3074
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"] Where's the fact to back up those numbers?todd2r_Partdeux

MS released a statement, and Sony released their official Q1 2012 numbers. Try adding up the numbers, if it isn't too hard. Here.

inb4 "those numbers are the fakezz!!1!!"

That was already presented to me and I've already stated that its not concrete enough. Any other links?

Have you privided any concrete links that Prove otherwise? How about you Man- up and back up your claims of the Ps3 being 6 million behind the 360
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#631 todd2r_Partdeux
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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"]That was already presented to me and I've already stated that its not concrete enough. Any other links?lundy86_4

Your lack of general intelligence isn't an excuse for saying evidence is not "concrete" enough :lol:

And here we go with the personal insults instead of having a discussion. I'm just asking for evidence or links please?
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#632 JohnnyCageMK
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It says computer entertainment system not PS3. Those could be PS2 sales for all we know.
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#633 todd2r_Partdeux
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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

MS released a statement, and Sony released their official Q1 2012 numbers. Try adding up the numbers, if it isn't too hard. Here.

inb4 "those numbers are the fakezz!!1!!"

delta3074
That was already presented to me and I've already stated that its not concrete enough. Any other links?

Have you privided any concrete links that Prove otherwise? How about you Man- up and back up your claims of the Ps3 being 6 million behind the 360

It can be found on this website. It was just presented yesterday.
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#634 delta3074
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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"]That was already presented to me and I've already stated that its not concrete enough. Any other links?lundy86_4

Your lack of general intelligence isn't an excuse for saying evidence is not "concrete" enough :lol:

What he's actually asking for is Evidence that is simple enough for him to actually understand, good luck with that,lol
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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"] That was already presented to me and I've already stated that its not concrete enough. Any other links?

Have you privided any concrete links that Prove otherwise? How about you Man- up and back up your claims of the Ps3 being 6 million behind the 360

It can be found on this website. It was just presented yesterday.

Not good enough, present the evidence IN THIS THREAD or F*** off.
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"]That was already presented to me and I've already stated that its not concrete enough. Any other links?delta3074

Your lack of general intelligence isn't an excuse for saying evidence is not "concrete" enough :lol:

What he's actually asking for is Evidence that is simple enough for him to actually understand, good luck with that,lol

More personal insults. I'm just having a discussion.
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#637 JohnnyCageMK
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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"][QUOTE="delta3074"]Have you privided any concrete links that Prove otherwise? How about you Man- up and back up your claims of the Ps3 being 6 million behind the 360delta3074
It can be found on this website. It was just presented yesterday.

Not good enough, present the evidence IN THIS THREAD or F*** off.

Prove that those are PS3 numbers. That link doesn't say what sold 2.8 in Q1
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#638 todd2r_Partdeux
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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"][QUOTE="delta3074"]Have you privided any concrete links that Prove otherwise? How about you Man- up and back up your claims of the Ps3 being 6 million behind the 360delta3074
It can be found on this website. It was just presented yesterday.

Not good enough, present the evidence IN THIS THREAD or F*** off.

Why are you so angry? There's no need for profanity. The evidence was presented by MS just yesterday and can be found on this website. I would believe it would be truthful because it was from MS themselves and they have no reason to lie.
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And here we go with the personal insults instead of having a discussion. I'm just asking for evidence or links please?todd2r_Partdeux

Evidence has been provided. You seem to lack the intelligence to discern said evidence as 100% accurate. You therefore postulate that a corporation has "padded" their figures, which is highly illegal and carries jail time... Try proving that the numbers are padded. Provide sufficient evidence for your reasoning. We'll wait.

It says computer entertainment system not PS3. Those could be PS2 sales for all we know.JohnnyCageMK

Their portable systems are reported seperately. Link.

What he's actually asking for is Evidence that is simple enough for him to actually understand, good luck with that,loldelta3074

It could take a while. Numbers with decimals can get confusing :lol:

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#640 Meeeper282
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"] It can be found on this website. It was just presented yesterday.JohnnyCageMK
Not good enough, present the evidence IN THIS THREAD or F*** off.

Prove that those are PS3 numbers. That link doesn't say what sold 2.8 in Q1

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html

OMG! do you have any eyes, go back and look again, those numbers are ps3 only not ps2! OMG

but you are right about one thing, those 2.8m is actually the ps3 and ps2 combined, the ps3 shipped 1.9m in that Q "i think"

while the 360 shipped 1.0m

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so take 900k off, and you have the real numbers, which is about right knowing if the ps3 actually shipped 2.8m it would already be ahead of the 360.

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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="delta3074"]Not good enough, present the evidence IN THIS THREAD or F*** off.Meeeper282

Prove that those are PS3 numbers. That link doesn't say what sold 2.8 in Q1

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html

OMG! do you have any eyes, go back and look again, those numbers are ps3 only not ps2! OMG

but you are right about one thing, those 2.8m is actually the ps3 and ps2 combined, the ps3 shipped 1.9m in that Q "i think"

while the 360 shipped 1.0m

I'm talking about this linkhttp://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdata_ces_sale_e.html

It just says computer entertainment system. There is no proof what PS3 sold. They could all be PS2 sales unless someone can prove otherwise.

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#643 rilpas
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

But the current generation doesn't end untill all 3 consoles are out, meaning sony could end the generation in second.. kay?

Meeeper282

This generation doesn't end until they stop producing all 3 consoles, the last generation is till going i think, DO SONY still make the PS2? i don't know but yes you are right, SONY could end up being Second this generation but it's irrelevent once the Next generation starts, we determine who has 'won' by who has sold the most when the next generation starts,in this case it would be the Wii, highest hardware sales and the most high rated exclusives.

I know, and to me sales areirrelevant anyways, well not really i'm a nintendo fan, i have it all XD

Ohh and the ps2 is still being made "really big in india i heard"

what is it with fanboys comming to this thread, arguing sales and then saying "I don't care about sales"?

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#644 Meeeper282
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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] Prove that those are PS3 numbers. That link doesn't say what sold 2.8 in Q1JohnnyCageMK

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html

OMG! do you have any eyes, go back and look again, those numbers are ps3 only not ps2! OMG

but you are right about one thing, those 2.8m is actually the ps3 and ps2 combined, the ps3 shipped 1.9m in that Q "i think"

while the 360 shipped 1.0m

I'm talking about this linkhttp://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdata_ces_sale_e.html

It just says computer entertainment system. There is no proof what PS3 sold. They could all be PS2 sales unless someone can prove otherwise.

I know, and i already corrected that, ps3 shipped 1.9m in that Q "i think"

the 900k was the ps2.

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#645 JohnnyCageMK
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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html

OMG! do you have any eyes, go back and look again, those numbers are ps3 only not ps2! OMG

but you are right about one thing, those 2.8m is actually the ps3 and ps2 combined, the ps3 shipped 1.9m in that Q "i think"

while the 360 shipped 1.0m

Meeeper282

I'm talking about this linkhttp://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdata_ces_sale_e.html

It just says computer entertainment system. There is no proof what PS3 sold. They could all be PS2 sales unless someone can prove otherwise.

I know, and i already corrected that, ps3 shipped 1.9m in that Q "i think"

the 900k was the ps2.

Where is your proof?
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#646 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]This generation doesn't end until they stop producing all 3 consoles, the last generation is till going i think, DO SONY still make the PS2? i don't know but yes you are right, SONY could end up being Second this generation but it's irrelevent once the Next generation starts, we determine who has 'won' by who has sold the most when the next generation starts,in this case it would be the Wii, highest hardware sales and the most high rated exclusives.rilpas

I know, and to me sales areirrelevant anyways, well not really i'm a nintendo fan, i have it all XD

Ohh and the ps2 is still being made "really big in india i heard"

what is it with fanboys comming to this thread, arguing sales and then saying "I don't care about sales"?

Once they are proven wrong they change their minds on what counts and what doesn't. Ps3 is in last place and wiiU marks the start of next generation. Everything sold after is just the epilogue to this gen.
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#647 todd2r_Partdeux
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Evidence has been provided. You seem to lack the intelligence to discern said evidence as 100% accurate. You therefore postulate that a corporation has "padded" their figures, which is highly illegal and carries jail time... Try proving that the numbers are padded. Provide sufficient evidence for your reasoning. We'll wait.

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]It says computer entertainment system not PS3. Those could be PS2 sales for all we know.lundy86_4

Their portable systems are reported seperately. Link.

What he's actually asking for is Evidence that is simple enough for him to actually understand, good luck with that,loldelta3074

It could take a while. Numbers with decimals can get confusing :lol:

How could I present evidence of a multi-billion dollar corporation of faking their numbers? Those kind of secrets are either never documented or they would have seen to it that they would be shredded.
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#648 lundy86_4
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How could I present evidence of a multi-billion dollar corporation of faking their numbers? Those kind of secrets are either never documented or they would have seen to it that they would be shredded. todd2r_Partdeux

If you can't prove it, your point holds zero merit. Thanks for playing. You lost.

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#649 Nonstop-Madness
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PS3's is at 63.9M but that doesn't include any of its sales since March 2012.
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#650 todd2r_Partdeux
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[QUOTE="todd2r_Partdeux"]How could I present evidence of a multi-billion dollar corporation of faking their numbers? Those kind of secrets are either never documented or they would have seen to it that they would be shredded. lundy86_4

If you can't prove it, your point holds zero merit. Thanks for playing. You lost.

Then you lost as well because you provided no concrete evidence. 6 million it is.