A Tale of 11 Broken Xbox 360s

Yet the PS3 can barely muster the same performance.

Go figure.

-Ninja_Dog-

How is that relevant to the linchpin of this topic which is of course hardware reliability? Xbox 360s are cheaply made with several things about their design and construction subpar and it has shown in realworld problems for people who buy them. I would love to see anybody disprove that.

What is he doing to his 360 consoles?-Sora

The question is ...WHAT ARE HIS CONSOLES DOING TO HIM??

I tired of hearing abot 360 faluty hardware. They freaking replace it with no problems. Why people are complaining?IbukiNinja

had one 360 brick on me and i had a replacement plan on it, took that back and got a new one less than six months after my original was bought in july 06. two months after that my external power supply dies. it took almost two months to get this replaced, why? because the idiots sent me a rechargeable battery pack instead of my replacement power supply. now my console bricked and it's being sent in. do you want to know how bad this problem is? the woman at the UPS store exclaimed "i know what that is" as soon as i walked in. this problem is much worse than it should be. i'm calling either tonight or tomorrow morning to try and get something from them for free because they have cost me almost three months of xbox live that i have paid for.

[QUOTE="-Sora"]What is he doing to his 360 consoles?IPQ

The question is ...WHAT ARE HIS CONSOLES DOING TO HIM??

I'm still on my near-launch console... how the hell does a guy lose 11 Xbox 360's in that time?project343

My wild stab in the dark would be that a good portion is the user's fault.

[QUOTE="IPQ"]

[QUOTE="-Sora"]What is he doing to his 360 consoles?Vandalvideo

The question is ...WHAT ARE HIS CONSOLES DOING TO HIM??

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] I think its more like, what is wrong with his luck? Jandurin

Do we really believe in luck? I might, but I also might be foolish.
Jandurin

Luck is an expression of the results probability grants a person. It requires no belief as it is almost a measurable quantity.

It would have been more believable had they said 6 or 7 and not made up the "exploded" quote.sonicare

ARE YOU sure?(check mysignature) lol

[QUOTE="IPQ"]

[QUOTE="-Sora"]What is he doing to his 360 consoles?Vandalvideo

The question is ...WHAT ARE HIS CONSOLES DOING TO HIM??

That would be like what is wrong with 300000 (amount of 360s dead)people's luck?

11 broken 360s is pathetic.

It's even more pathetic when people has to continue to deal with it.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="IPQ"]

[QUOTE="-Sora"]What is he doing to his 360 consoles?IPQ

The question is ...WHAT ARE HIS CONSOLES DOING TO HIM??

That would be like what is wrong with 300000 (amount of 360s dead)people's luck?

I tired of hearing abot 360 faluty hardware. They freaking replace it with no problems. Why people are complaining?IbukiNinja

because some people get a new(im sorry, refurbished) x360 and, surprise surprise! it breaks again. Thats why people complain about it.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Incredibly, absolutely, positively not going to happen in a real world situation.Jandurin

The bigger the sample, the more chance of ANYTHING happening.

Exactly - the mathematical probability (considering the fact that there are 10 mil 360 users) of someone getting 11 broked 360's with a 30% fail rate isn't that terrible... heres an example (my math is a bit rusty, so stick with me)

10,000,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

3,000,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

900,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

270,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

81,000

24,300

7,290

2,187

656.1

196.83

59.049

17.7147

5.31441 - this is the amount of people who (statistically speaking with a 30% failure rate) can have 13 failed 360's.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Incredibly, absolutely, positively not going to happen in a real world situation.Kinitari

The bigger the sample, the more chance of ANYTHING happening.

Exactly - the mathematical probability (considering the fact that there are 10 mil 360 users) of someone getting 11 broked 360's with a 30% fail rate isn't that terrible... heres an example (my math is a bit rusty, so stick with me)

10,000,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

3,000,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

900,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

270,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

81,000

24,300

7,290

2,187

656.1

196.83

59.049

17.7147

5.31441 - this is the amount of people who (statistically speaking with a 30% failure rate) can have 13 failed 360's.

11 broken 360s is pathetic.

It's even more pathetic when people has to continue to deal with it.

XenogearsMaster

It's even more pathetic that cows, once again, buy into another fabricated story...

[QUOTE="Kinitari"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Incredibly, absolutely, positively not going to happen in a real world situation.Vandalvideo

The bigger the sample, the more chance of ANYTHING happening.

Exactly - the mathematical probability (considering the fact that there are 10 mil 360 users) of someone getting 11 broked 360's with a 30% fail rate isn't that terrible... heres an example (my math is a bit rusty, so stick with me)

10,000,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

3,000,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

900,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

270,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

81,000

24,300

7,290

2,187

656.1

196.83

59.049

17.7147

5.31441 - this is the amount of people who (statistically speaking with a 30% failure rate) can have 13 failed 360's.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Take a look at the logistics before accusing me of sounding 'ignorant'. Even if the 30% defect rate were true, do you have any idea how low the chances would be for someone to have 11 faulty 360s, and one that EXPLODED?

a_ratchet_fan

Why is it that most 360 owners are either on their first console, or else on their 3nd or higher? Very few have had to replace the console only once. Once the first one goes, it's a rocky road from there, because they get refurbs as replacements, instead of new consoles.

The chances of him being sent 11 refurbished 360s in a row are about as low as having one explode. I am not ruling out completely the possibility that the infamous faulty hardware fo the 360 could have had a hand in this (if this is true), but in all 11 cases?

Then that leavesfew possibilities. The user is one of the most unluckybeing in this planet's history, that he's up to something, or that he doesn't take care of his consoles. Which is the most likely of the three?

The chance os this happening are deffinately over 1 in 10,000,000.SuperVegeta518

Where in this story was their rock solid evidence that his story is true?It certainly wasn't the phone call.SuperVegeta518

Life on the Planet Bovine dictates that all negative 360 heresey is true....

[QUOTE="asdasd"]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3160603

"I'm no fanboy," he says, but there's no doubt he's a 360 fan. He purchased his first machine a month after the console launch, but, since then, Justin has not had a working system for longer than a month or two. The list of problems is almost comically large: three red lights of death, two with disc read errors, two dead on arrival, several with random audio and video-related issues and one that actually exploded.

In an MP3 that Justin shared with 1UP -- which you can listen to below -- he asks a service representative to read off his support/repair request numbers. After opening the account, the rep lets out an audible laugh. He reads them off and confirms they are under Justin's account. Just to be sure, 1UP called into Xbox Live support with Justin's contact info and asked for the same information. Again, the person on the other end laughed when they accessed Justin's account, remarking, "It looks like you have a lot of numbers."

That is freakin' horrible.. I cant believe he kept getting them replaced. I would've stopped after the 3rd or 4th console, but 11? I wouldve just said the big "!@#$ you" to the console.

OXIIIIXO

You know, things break.

LoL you must work for MS because I know I heard them say that before.

[QUOTE="asdasd"]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3160603

"I'm no fanboy," he says, but there's no doubt he's a 360 fan. He purchased his first machine a month after the console launch, but, since then, Justin has not had a working system for longer than a month or two. The list of problems is almost comically large: three red lights of death, two with disc read errors, two dead on arrival, several with random audio and video-related issues and one that actually exploded.

In an MP3 that Justin shared with 1UP -- which you can listen to below -- he asks a service representative to read off his support/repair request numbers. After opening the account, the rep lets out an audible laugh. He reads them off and confirms they are under Justin's account. Just to be sure, 1UP called into Xbox Live support with Justin's contact info and asked for the same information. Again, the person on the other end laughed when they accessed Justin's account, remarking, "It looks like you have a lot of numbers."

That is freakin' horrible.. I cant believe he kept getting them replaced. I would've stopped after the 3rd or 4th console, but 11? I wouldve just said the big "!@#$ you" to the console.

OXIIIIXO

You know, things break.

[QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]Where in this story was their rock solid evidence that his story is true?It certainly wasn't the phone call.DXGreat1_HGL

Life on the Planet Bovine dictates that all negative 360 heresey is true....

are you for real? It is clearly a true story. Just get over the fact that ur 360 is going to break and MS is going to screw you

[QUOTE="Kinitari"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Incredibly, absolutely, positively not going to happen in a real world situation.Vandalvideo

The bigger the sample, the more chance of ANYTHING happening.

Exactly - the mathematical probability (considering the fact that there are 10 mil 360 users) of someone getting 11 broked 360's with a 30% fail rate isn't that terrible... heres an example (my math is a bit rusty, so stick with me)

10,000,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

3,000,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

900,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

270,000 360 owners - 30% of them fail

81,000

24,300

7,290

2,187

656.1

196.83

59.049

17.7147

5.31441 - this is the amount of people who (statistically speaking with a 30% failure rate) can have 13 failed 360's.

Well, for 11 - it's 59. for 13 it's 5 - I just went that far to show that (mathematically) it is still probable for people to be on their 13th console without breaking them down into fractions (eg - 0.4 people).

So yeah, even if that number was -1- out of 10,000,000 that would still be really gross.

Well, for 11 - it's 59. for 13 it's 5 - I just went that far to show that (mathematically) it is still probable for people to be on their 13th console without breaking them down into fractions (eg - 0.4 people).So yeah, even if that number was -1- out of 10,000,000 that would still be really gross. Kinitari

[QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]The chance os this happening are deffinately over 1 in 10,000,000.Vandalvideo

Again, that 5 number is for 13, it's 59 for 11. And that still doesn't take away from the fact that mathematically speaking, it is entirely probable.

[QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]Where in this story was their rock solid evidence that his story is true?It certainly wasn't the phone call.DXGreat1_HGL

Life on the Planet Bovine dictates that all negative 360 heresey is true....

Hey in your sig, the three lights of death bullcrap, if you can break a 360 that easily, thats just sad.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]The chance os this happening are deffinately over 1 in 10,000,000.Kinitari

Again, that 5 number is for 13, it's 59 for 11. And that still doesn't take away from the fact that mathematically speaking, it is entirely probable.

[QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]The chance os this happening are deffinately over 1 in 10,000,000.Vandalvideo

Chances are you're not going to be that guy, but probability also says there should be four other guys who had this problem at 30 percent failure rates.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]The chance os this happening are deffinately over 1 in 10,000,000.nnavidson

Chances are you're not going to be that guy, but probability also says there should be four other guys who had this problem at 30 percent failure rates.

[QUOTE="Kinitari"]Well, for 11 - it's 59. for 13 it's 5 - I just went that far to show that (mathematically) it is still probable for people to be on their 13th console without breaking them down into fractions (eg - 0.4 people).So yeah, even if that number was -1- out of 10,000,000 that would still be really gross. Vandalvideo

I know 5 people with 360s and my launch console is the only I know of that has broken. MS is refurbishing the broken 360s which can be the only reason this schmuck could have possibly been through 11. Common sense would have told him to buy another already.dru26

Why should he pay for another one? If he does, he would have spent $800 for shoddy hardware. Then he would have really been a chump for doing that. In fact, he could almost buy a PS3 and a Wii for that price. He should have gone PSWii in that case if he spends money for another 360.

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]Where in this story was their rock solid evidence that his story is true?It certainly wasn't the phone call.deadhead127

Life on the Planet Bovine dictates that all negative 360 heresey is true....

Hey in your sig, the three lights of death bullcrap, if you can break a 360 that easily, thats just sad.

Psst it wasn't broken. It shows how you can fake it easily. Try again.

BTW, did anyone actually listen to the MP3? Maybe next time 'Justin' can find a better phone actor....

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Kinitari"]Well, for 11 - it's 59. for 13 it's 5 - I just went that far to show that (mathematically) it is still probable for people to be on their 13th console without breaking them down into fractions (eg - 0.4 people).So yeah, even if that number was -1- out of 10,000,000 that would still be really gross. Kinitari

[QUOTE="Kinitari"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]The chance os this happening are deffinately over 1 in 10,000,000.Vandalvideo

Again, that 5 number is for 13, it's 59 for 11. And that still doesn't take away from the fact that mathematically speaking, it is entirely probable.

[QUOTE="nnavidson"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]The chance os this happening are deffinately over 1 in 10,000,000.Vandalvideo

Chances are you're not going to be that guy, but probability also says there should be four other guys who had this problem at 30 percent failure rates.

It's improbable that it would happen to you. It's probable that if you sell 10 million systems it will happen to 5 people.

[QUOTE="deadhead127"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]Where in this story was their rock solid evidence that his story is true?It certainly wasn't the phone call.DXGreat1_HGL

Life on the Planet Bovine dictates that all negative 360 heresey is true....

Hey in your sig, the three lights of death bullcrap, if you can break a 360 that easily, thats just sad.

Psst it wasn't broken. It shows how you can fake it easily. Try again.

BTW, did anyone actually listen to the MP3? Maybe next time 'Justin' can find a better phone actor....

Lol at you ignoring the fact that it was confirmed by a third party (dont remember if it was IGN or 1up). They took his info, called in to Microsofts representatives and asked for 'their' history - thus the confirmation.

Thank you for correcting my poor choice of wording. Take what I said except replace probable with possible.And no, I dont think it happened to 59 people - again, just showing you the math here, math does not account for consumer frustration, most would not go through 5 let alone 10. Kinitari

[QUOTE="deadhead127"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]Where in this story was their rock solid evidence that his story is true?It certainly wasn't the phone call.DXGreat1_HGL

Life on the Planet Bovine dictates that all negative 360 heresey is true....

Hey in your sig, the three lights of death bullcrap, if you can break a 360 that easily, thats just sad.

Psst it wasn't broken. It shows how you can fake it easily. Try again.

BTW, did anyone actually listen to the MP3? Maybe next time 'Justin' can find a better phone actor....

If it's so easy to fake, why hasn't MS come out with a statement supporting this theory? If it is so easy to fake, why won't MS give out the actual number of broken consoles? Seriously, who would spend $400 to purchase a console to intentionally break it? This sounds more farfetched as this is always claimed when a 360 is broken thread comes up. This is not to say that there aren't some that are fake, but this excuse seems ludicrous.

It's improbable that it would happen to you. It's probable that if you sell 10 million systems it will happen to 5 people.nnavidson

[QUOTE="Kinitari"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Kinitari"]Well, for 11 - it's 59. for 13 it's 5 - I just went that far to show that (mathematically) it is still probable for people to be on their 13th console without breaking them down into fractions (eg - 0.4 people).So yeah, even if that number was -1- out of 10,000,000 that would still be really gross. Vandalvideo

Also, maybe you need to stop focusing on the choice of words (between probable and possible) and focus on the question I asked you? Kinitari

[QUOTE="nnavidson"]It's improbable that it would happen to you. It's probable that if you sell 10 million systems it will happen to 5 people.Vandalvideo

5 out of 10 million means that if out of 10 million attempts you should have success 5 times.

It's just like the probability of flipping a coin and getting heads should happen once for every two attempts. It's the mathmatical odds,