A Tale of 11 Broken Xbox 360s

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#201 TNT_Slug
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You know, things break.

OXIIIIXO
:lol: Priceless, just priceless.
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#202 ni6htmare01
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wow. this is crazy. I would not buy a 360 for sure after hearing this. I really dont care about warrenty and stuff. Is a pain in the butt to have to send your console out and have to wait couple of week to recieve back. Damnn, what happened if I'm in the middle of a great game and it break on me? MS should have someone deliver a brand new Xbox straight to your home with in 1 hour you call lol!
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#203 KodiakGTS
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While I don't doubt the validity of this article, either this guy must have the worst luck ever or he is seriously doing something wrong.

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#204 TNT_Slug
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While I don't doubt the validity of this article, either this guy must have the worst luck ever or he is seriously doing something wrong.

KodiakGTS

For the 360 to be the only appliance in his household to break down, let alone 11 times? When his father is an electricist? When he actually hired someone else to check on his wiring to make sure there was nothing wrong?

I think the fault resides in the console itself... But this may have an explanation. It seems repaired consoles break much more often than new ones... So either your original 360 never dies, or it does and your next one will have a much higher chance to break, and so on.

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#205 Rosencrantz
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It's funny how lemmings have bashed the PS2 for years over being so poorly made. They said it couldn't have sold 100 million because Sony probably counted all the broken units. They said it is proof that Sony sucks and makes terrible hardware. They said that SOny screwed the customer and lied to everyone. They said anyone who claims to not have any problems with their PS2 is a fanboy and a liar (although mine still works).

Now here we are a few years later. MS swore that the 360 had the lowest failure rate in the history of consoles. %3 failure rate they said. When people doubted that the lemmings all said the internet is full of liars who only want MS to look bad. They even said only MS knows the real numbers and that is why the %3 must be true. They said if the failure rate was higher peopel would have sued by now.

Looking over this thread I have to laugh. "So? Things break". "How can anyone have 11 broken consoles? He must be breaking them on purpose." "He's stupid". "Has to be user error"...even though 2 were broken out of the box and 1 exploded.

You know lemmings. Just suck it up and stop being hypocrits. You brought this thread on yourselves. The sooner you face reality and admit MS lied to your faces (%3 lol) the quicker this will die down. MS will fix this problem eventually, just like Sony did, and everything will be fine. But you brought this one yourselves. Everything you claim to hate SOny for is being done to you by MS...and you defend every ounce of it.

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#206 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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That is really unlucky.Most people here would have just dismissed him as a "fanboy making stuff up",but yet he even recorded his call,which makes it less likely that he actually faked it.....

I'm pretty much speechless now.....

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#207 Dreams-Visions
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he's not just unlucky. There are lots of people with these kinds of horror stories. I know more than a couple people on their 4th-7th console at this point. if your console dies, good luck with this cycle.

Nov. 2005 and going strong 8)

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#209 -MoOkS-
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The actual failure rate is obviously around the 70% mark, but denial isnt going to get you lemms anywhere
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#210 ParadiddleFill
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i dont know how anyone still trusts 1up, i mean they are the same people who posted rumors and stories of bioshock coming to the ps3 and how epic is mad at microsoft and might be putting Gears of war 2 muliplatform. I mean they take garbage from blogs and forums of websites like sony protection group and put it into there articles they are sad bunch. The only people who would believe a story like this is the cows who are so insecure about there ps3s that they will jump on any story be it real or fake that bashes the 360 and claim teh truff! Just like they ran with Epic being mad at microsoft and coming to the ps3 story.
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#211 Dreams-Visions
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The actual failure rate is obviously around the 70% mark, but denial isnt going to get you lemms anywhere-MoOkS-
don't be so Cow-ish, twinblade. 70% is...no.

not even worth saying because it's not. It may be a solid 20%, but not 70%. Understand, most of these people with horror stories aren't getting NEW 360's and having them fail left and right; they're being given REFURBISHED 360's over and over again. they're getting someone else's old 360.

if these people were getting NEW 360s and having them die in multiples, it would be a big story...but that's not what's happening here. keep your perspective.

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#212 ParadiddleFill
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The actual failure rate is obviously around the 70% mark, but denial isnt going to get you lemms anywhere-MoOkS-

i think youre the one in denial

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#213 Psycho-Mantis-
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[QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"]

You know, things break.

TNT_Slug

:lol: Priceless, just priceless.

Well you can always use them to make your breakfast

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#214 Shomb22
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What about this. Is a warranty able to give you an elite instead of your original 360? Do elites break down like this as well? If not, then how many people here are going to move over to the elite?
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#215 nevi
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well i can´t say i´m having a better time with my console. The disc tray is stuck and scratches my discs, yay.
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#216 spidey008
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I really feel sorry for this guy. He is so patient and supportive of Microsoft even though he has had such bad luck.

My launch console finally went out about a week ago. I sent it in for repair, but I also went out and bought a core system with a Best Buy 2 years warrenty. I have a cousin that has had the same issue with a console that is only a few months old.

Another friend bought a 360 that didn't work and he returned it. The second system he got worked for about a day and got the red rings of death. The third one finally worked right up to this point.

This is a huge problem for Microsoft. They need to make an ungent hardware design change now to stop this from happening. Many customers are going to be turned off by the fact that the 360 is known to be a shotty product.

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#217 Rosencrantz
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[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]The actual failure rate is obviously around the 70% mark, but denial isnt going to get you lemms anywhereDreams-Visions

don't be so Cow-ish, twinblade. 70% is...no.

not even worth saying because it's not. It may be a solid 20%, but not 70%. Understand, most of these people with horror stories aren't getting NEW 360's and having them fail left and right; they're being given REFURBISHED 360's over and over again. they're getting someone else's old 360.

if these people were getting NEW 360s and having them die in multiples, it would be a big story...but that's not what's happening here. keep your perspective.

One would think that if the 360 you received was properly fixed, or "refurbished", then it shouldn't keep breaking. UNless you are telling us that MS is incapable of fixing their own consoles?

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#218 Rosencrantz
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What about this. Is a warranty able to give you an elite instead of your original 360? Do elites break down like this as well? If not, then how many people here are going to move over to the elite?Shomb22

The hardware for the elite should be the same. It's just got a different box and a bigger HD basically.

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#219 Mystery_Writer
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Microsoft really messed up in this big time.

The only reason I could think of as to why my launch X360 and my new Elite haven't failed yet is because I use voltage stabilizer connected to my APC Smart-UPS 1500 system.

I gave my launch X360 as a gift to a friend of mine who had his X360 fail on him (3 flashing lights). Now I'm waiting to see if my gift will fail on him as well. Cause if it does, then I'd gather the problem is somehow related to a flaw in X360 power brick.

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#220 Runningflame570
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[QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]Where in this story was their rock solid evidence that his story is true?It certainly wasn't the phone call.DXGreat1_HGL

Life on the Planet Bovine dictates that all negative 360 heresey is true....

I fail to see how a listing of the numbers and a confirmation both via audio recording from him and the website in question is hearsay or not "rock solid evidence".

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#221 Carmilla31
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It's funny how lemmings have bashed the PS2 for years over being so poorly made. They said it couldn't have sold 100 million because Sony probably counted all the broken units. They said it is proof that Sony sucks and makes terrible hardware. They said that SOny screwed the customer and lied to everyone. They said anyone who claims to not have any problems with their PS2 is a fanboy and a liar (although mine still works).

Now here we are a few years later. MS swore that the 360 had the lowest failure rate in the history of consoles. %3 failure rate they said. When people doubted that the lemmings all said the internet is full of liars who only want MS to look bad. They even said only MS knows the real numbers and that is why the %3 must be true. They said if the failure rate was higher peopel would have sued by now.

Looking over this thread I have to laugh. "So? Things break". "How can anyone have 11 broken consoles? He must be breaking them on purpose." "He's stupid". "Has to be user error"...even though 2 were broken out of the box and 1 exploded.

You know lemmings. Just suck it up and stop being hypocrits. You brought this thread on yourselves. The sooner you face reality and admit MS lied to your faces (%3 lol) the quicker this will die down. MS will fix this problem eventually, just like Sony did, and everything will be fine. But you brought this one yourselves. Everything you claim to hate SOny for is being done to you by MS...and you defend every ounce of it.

Rosencrantz
Good post. One of my friends didnt buy a warranty for his 360 and his console died two after its first year. Two days after it expired! I chalk that up to severe bad luck but how many here would scream 'liar?'
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#222 joe_g_patton
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Cows can do nothing but bombard this forum with 360 failure stories.

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#224 Runningflame570
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Anyway, are you trying to say you can measure luck? You can measure probability, but luck is the thing that determines which way the probability goes. And, if you're "lucky" then probability would go your way more than one who is "unlucky".

Jandurin

You can not measure luck due to the intracies and number of probability equations that occur every day of your life. But you are correct in the rest, luck is the outcome of those odds of probability and one who is "lucky" has probability land on their side more often than a person who is "unlucky".

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#225 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Someone fill me in, what delicious denial and damage control has dxlthegreat and truthhurtsyou managed to cook up this time?InsaneBasura
Sabotage and that the guy must be an idiot, I think were the prevalent damage controls throughout the thread.
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#226 Hermitkermit
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Well.....no system is perfect, but damn Microsoft!!!!! At least give this poor fellow a break!! 11 360s!! my faith has be severed....I feel sorry for him.
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#227 AgentA-Mi6
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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]Someone fill me in, what delicious denial and damage control has dxlthegreat and truthhurtsyou managed to cook up this time?Jandurin
Sabotage and that the guy must be an idiot, I think were the prevalent damage controls throughout the thread.

Why is Microsoft allowing this tho happen if they are so wealthy and powerful ?

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]Someone fill me in, what delicious denial and damage control has dxlthegreat and truthhurtsyou managed to cook up this time?AgentA-Mi6

Sabotage and that the guy must be an idiot, I think were the prevalent damage controls throughout the thread.

Why is Microsoft allowing this tho happen if they are so wealthy and powerful ?

Greed? Perhaps the problem is bigger than we know? Maybe there is no answer?

Honestly, we'll probably never know.

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#229 AgentA-Mi6
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]Someone fill me in, what delicious denial and damage control has dxlthegreat and truthhurtsyou managed to cook up this time?Jandurin

Sabotage and that the guy must be an idiot, I think were the prevalent damage controls throughout the thread.

Why is Microsoft allowing this tho happen if they are so wealthy and powerful ?

Greed? Perhaps the problem is bigger than we know? Maybe there is no answer?

Honestly, we'll probably never know.

Thats really sad becausei want to get a 360 but I dont think a can afford a second one if the first one breaks anyway ,which one issafer to buythe elite or the Premium ?

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#230 bri360
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Wow, I feel bad for that guy, 11!?! That sucks, I wouldve stopped after 3.
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Thats really sad because want to get a 360 but I dont think a can afford a second one if the first one breaks anyway ,which one issafer to buythe elite or the Premium ?AgentA-Mi6
I would wait for a price drop so that there's less initial investment or at least for them all to be the 65nm chipset. That's supposed to reduce the heat generated.
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#232 Ninja-Vox
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That's insane. But meaningless. :| If you're trying to imply this is common, i can only say... well i wont say anything.
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#233 KzerXtreme
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I don't understand why people get so giddy about hardware failure posts, is your hatred of a system so great that you are happy that your fellow gamers have to go through this.

It's one thing to inform people of defect rates, it's another to be happy and put :D faces in your posts about this.

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#234 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]The actual failure rate is obviously around the 70% mark, but denial isnt going to get you lemms anywhereRosencrantz

don't be so Cow-ish, twinblade. 70% is...no.

not even worth saying because it's not. It may be a solid 20%, but not 70%. Understand, most of these people with horror stories aren't getting NEW 360's and having them fail left and right; they're being given REFURBISHED 360's over and over again. they're getting someone else's old 360.

if these people were getting NEW 360s and having them die in multiples, it would be a big story...but that's not what's happening here. keep your perspective.

One would think that if the 360 you received was properly fixed, or "refurbished", then it shouldn't keep breaking. UNless you are telling us that MS is incapable of fixing their own consoles?

I don't know if they care as much as we thought they did. customer service is friendly, from what I'm told. but in the end, people want equipment that works.

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people want equipment that works. Dreams-Visions
Seriously. You can tell me I'm a dumbass and worthless, as long as what you sell me works forever.
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#236 BackFlip101
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lol not only does it show how bad the 360 hardware is, it shows how dumb lemmings can be. it took him 11 times to realize something was wrong? lmao
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#237 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]people want equipment that works. Jandurin
Seriously. You can tell me I'm a dumbass and worthless, as long as what you sell me works forever.

indeed. really, I don't see why we can't get friendly service and functioning equipment. shame.

with all this crap, I'd probably just buy a new 360 instead of deal with this kind of experience.

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#238 AgentA-Mi6
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Thats really sad because want to get a 360 but I dont think a can afford a second one if the first one breaks anyway ,which one issafer to buythe elite or the Premium ?Jandurin
I would wait for a price drop so that there's less initial investment or at least for them all to be the 65nm chipset. That's supposed to reduce the heat generated.

Should I get core for 300 bucks i really want to play Geow

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]Someone fill me in, what delicious denial and damage control has dxlthegreat and truthhurtsyou managed to cook up this time?AgentA-Mi6

Sabotage and that the guy must be an idiot, I think were the prevalent damage controls throughout the thread.

Why is Microsoft allowing this tho happen if they are so wealthy and powerful ?

If they try to fix it they're admitting there is a problem, which could potentially lead to a recall or other shenanigans (hopefully the whole GPU heatsink deal will). They're allowing it to happen cause they think they can get away with it without being held accountable. I'm guessing their strategy is to remain tightlipped and wait for the 65nm CPU so they can claim they revised the hardware for cost reduction reasons or whatever, rather than to fix a problem.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Thats really sad because want to get a 360 but I dont think a can afford a second one if the first one breaks anyway ,which one issafer to buythe elite or the Premium ?AgentA-Mi6

I would wait for a price drop so that there's less initial investment or at least for them all to be the 65nm chipset. That's supposed to reduce the heat generated.

Should I get core for 300 bucks i really want to play Geow

Gears of War is lots of fun, especially if you have a big tv and a friend to co-op it with. But, you have to decide. I haven't purchased one yet, but I'm patient.
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#241 Dreams-Visions
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lol not only does it show how bad the 360 hardware is, it shows how dumb lemmings can be. it took him 11 times to realize something was wrong? lmaoBackFlip101
nothing wrong with wanting your equipment to work man. they weren't charging him for the fixes, so he remained patient.

IMO, Cows should not act as if they don't know the meaning of the word "patience"...

It's your favorite these days.

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Buy a PS3 and call it a day:|
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#243 Runningflame570
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Thats really sad becausei want to get a 360 but I dont think a can afford a second one if the first one breaks anyway ,which one issafer to buythe elite or the Premium ?

AgentA-Mi6

Neither all Microsoft has done with the elite is use epoxy to try and hold the GPU into the motherboard, they haven't solved the underlying problems.

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#244 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]people want equipment that works. Dreams-Visions

Seriously. You can tell me I'm a dumbass and worthless, as long as what you sell me works forever.

indeed. really, I don't see why we can't get friendly service and functioning equipment. shame.

with all this crap, I'd probably just buy a new 360 instead of deal with this kind of experience.

No no no. That's not the way to go about it. You don't give a company more money cause their hardware and customer support sucks.

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#245 Dreams-Visions
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Buy a PS3 and call it a day:|miss_kitt3n
no, I think people want to play AAA games TODAY. Not months from now.
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#246 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]people want equipment that works. InsaneBasura

Seriously. You can tell me I'm a dumbass and worthless, as long as what you sell me works forever.

indeed. really, I don't see why we can't get friendly service and functioning equipment. shame.

with all this crap, I'd probably just buy a new 360 instead of deal with this kind of experience.

No no no. That's not the way to go about it. You don't give a company more money cause their hardware and customer support sucks.

I also don't let me libary of games I've already built up go to waste. and I don't go though the cycle of hoping a refurbished 360 holds together.

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#247 Magical_Zebra
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Lol 11? At what point does it become operator error? :lol:
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#248 AgentA-Mi6
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Buy a PS3 and call it a day:|miss_kitt3n

No no no no no... You must buy a Ps3 and harui suzumiya in 1080p Blu ray and onlythen you may call it a day...

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#249 Grodus5
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Man he is really unlucky.
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#250 Dreams-Visions
Member since 2006 • 26578 Posts
[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

Thats really sad becausei want to get a 360 but I dont think a can afford a second one if the first one breaks anyway ,which one issafer to buythe elite or the Premium ?

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Neither all Microsoft has done with the elite is use epoxy to try and hold the GPU into the motherboard, they haven't solved the underlying problems.

wanna know what I think? I think Xbox 360's are held together by crackers Elmers glue.