Activision to introduce pay-to-play online service for Call of Duty

Yeah, good luck with that Activision :?

Their "hardcore fanbase" wants these changes? Who would that be? Most people who play MW adamantly are casual gamers who would drop support in a second if they were charged.

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]You are the one failing. Microsoft provides all the backend servers for all their games. Companies do not host anything like they have to do on PSN and PC. Skittles_McGee

But clearly reality isn't enough, so then there is this where one only needs to skim a bit to find this:

"Meanwhile, the Xbox 360 is already "one of the most successful" P2P platforms out there today, according to Microsoft's director for P2P networks. "Halo 3 is actually one of the most compelling (P2P games)," he contended. In Halo 3, he said, the XBox 360 platform works as a "broker" to match up players in ways intended to ensure high quality of service (QoS). "Players communicate in P2P," said Tan. "P2P is actually key to the whole experience." If thats not enough, you're just in denial and I'm wasting my time.

Dude you have no knowledge of networking so please stop trying. Even though the individual is a host in the game it still requires a backend server to keep players connected and create the matches. Where exactly did I mention anything about a dedicated server? Reading comprehension FTW!Jamex1987

You are the one who doesn't know anything about networking.

And I'm still waiting for that "all X360 online games are hosted on XBL servers" link.

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]This is for PC and/ or PS3. Notthing to do with the xbox 360 as the service runs off of Xbox Live servers. RadecSupreme

No...... it runs off Infinity ward servers.

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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"] It does NOT. reyad-u

Proof?

It makes much more sense that it runs on IW servers.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]You are the one failing. Microsoft provides all the backend servers for all their games. Companies do not host anything like they have to do on PSN and PC. Jamex1987

But clearly reality isn't enough, so then there is this where one only needs to skim a bit to find this:

"Meanwhile, the Xbox 360 is already "one of the most successful" P2P platforms out there today, according to Microsoft's director for P2P networks. "Halo 3 is actually one of the most compelling (P2P games)," he contended. In Halo 3, he said, the XBox 360 platform works as a "broker" to match up players in ways intended to ensure high quality of service (QoS). "Players communicate in P2P," said Tan. "P2P is actually key to the whole experience." If thats not enough, you're just in denial and I'm wasting my time.

Are you ******* serious, Activision? We're paying to play online for a shooter that also has single player, which are usually free to play online? *facepalm*

jesus christ......can some1 plz nuke activision headquarters

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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]You are the one failing. Microsoft provides all the backend servers for all their games. Companies do not host anything like they have to do on PSN and PC. Jamex1987

But clearly reality isn't enough, so then there is this where one only needs to skim a bit to find this:

"Meanwhile, the Xbox 360 is already "one of the most successful" P2P platforms out there today, according to Microsoft's director for P2P networks. "Halo 3 is actually one of the most compelling (P2P games)," he contended. In Halo 3, he said, the XBox 360 platform works as a "broker" to match up players in ways intended to ensure high quality of service (QoS). "Players communicate in P2P," said Tan. "P2P is actually key to the whole experience." If thats not enough, you're just in denial and I'm wasting my time.

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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]This is for PC and/ or PS3. Notthing to do with the xbox 360 as the service runs off of Xbox Live servers. Brownesque

No...... it runs off Infinity ward servers.

The sad part is that 75% of Call of Duty players will cough up the cash for this.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"] It does NOT. SAGE_OF_FIRE

Well thats what all you guys get. You support these douches and they give you even more fun :). Sadly, if the article mentiones Battle.Net and "major" activision titles, StarCraft2 and Diablo III might be titles we have to pay for as well. Wonderful.

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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Yes, it does. Both Xbox Live and PSN only have dedicated servers for some first party games. Any other game is run on the servers of its respective company(ies).Brownesque

I would still like a link. It doesnt matter if you are a good poster or you make sense. You could be making this up. Please link information.

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"] except sony makes the devs pay while ms makes the player pay.

RadecSupreme

I would still like a link. It doesnt matter if you are a good poster or you make sense. You could be making this up. Please link information.

You can also tell by when you get disconnects due to the host leaving (which I've experienced in Uncharted 2 and you can replicate it if you like) or due to host changes (I can link you to a video there).

I can also link you to 402 explaining how MW2 networking works on all platforms and I can possibly find you a blog post on Bungie's website explaining how Halo 3's networking works...

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=8455638

Aside from that I don't have the time to fill out the rest of this post, sorry.

Activision is awesome. They are totally capitalizing on everyone's addiction to gaming. I'm quite frankly really pleased they are doing this. Its good to have a company that will try to push their customers to see how far they are willing to go. Maybe this will finally be the straw that breaks the camel's back, or it will just continue to prove out that the majority of gamers are just so pathetic that they will let corporations walk all over them. Either way, I'll just sit back, watch and laugh my ass off.beekayjay

wow, i'm surprised it took them this long to implement it.

[QUOTE="reyad-u"]Sometimes I think that Acti is simply trying to find out how much of an idiot consumers can be.Espada12

I wouldn't doubt it .. they are probably honestly working with the rest of the industry and they decided to be the sacrificial lamb to see how far they could push it before people wised up.

TIS IS BOOLSHET MON! *jamican accent* LOL!

boo that sucks

If you guys can't afford $5 to play online you shouldn't be gaming, am I right lemmings?EmperorSupreme

well not in this state of the economy, we need to save money and spend wisely

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]If you guys can't afford $5 to play online you shouldn't be gaming, am I right lemmings?resevl4rlz

well not in this state of the economy, we need to save money and spend wisely

I think it was a shot at xbox live subscribers who make such claims every once in a while.

Anyways its not really the 5 dollars that i'm against its the fact other games with online multiplayer won't have this fee. I'll just go play them.

If that's what it takes to play Call of Duty, I'll gladly pay.

I think it was a shot at xbox live subscribers who make such claims every once in a while.

Anyways its not really the 5 dollars that i'm against its the fact other games with online multiplayer won't have this fee. I'll just go play them.

Console_Gamer93

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I think it was a shot at xbox live subscribers who make such claims every once in a while.

Anyways its not really the 5 dollars that i'm against its the fact other games with online multiplayer won't have this fee. I'll just go play them.

Ontain

Well as long as there is an alternative i'll use that. PSN over XboxLive for example.

When im left with one choice i'll pay. I guess that makes me sound cheap lol. I just don't see how much content they can give you while forcing you to pay. Some people are content with what they get on the disc and always have the option to buy DLC.

Funny thing is that they'll get a hefty number of people to go along with this, provided they add some additional content to the mix to rase the "perceived value" of the package. Hardcore FPS players have a lot more in common with their MMO cousins than they want to admit. They both play 1 game almost exclusively and for months at a time, level up, seek out gear to differentiate them from the "n00bs" all around, form guilds (clans) and make websites to apply for membership and setup events... heck both hardcore factions even often have requirements that you be on so many hours a week, and at certain times.

I'm not saying that CoD as they release it now would succeed with a subscription. However, if they added regular content updates, more items to work for, themed events, and integrated many of the external "clan battle" setup and tracking into the service, I bet we'd still see millions of gamers bite at the offer.

How long do you think people will play CoD MW2 if it went to that? It would be dead in a few days.

Oh Activision... I hate you so much

How long do you think people will play CoD MW2 if it went to that? It would be dead in a few days.

Wasdie

How long do you think people will play CoD MW2 if it went to that? It would be dead in a few days.

Wasdie

Oh, it wouldn't happen with a game already released. They'd build it around a future tiitle.

Dear Lord, Activision just takes it too far ever time, this is horrible. :| Activision is ruining gaming, I hate saying Variable X is ruining gaming, but there is no denying Activision is become too large, too greedy, and very anti-consumer, hell I would almost consider them anti-game as well. Their CEO came out and said he doesn't want to publish games he doesn't think they will be able to exploit with yearly sequels. Activision is turning into the Evil Galatic Empire more and more every day.

Guys, IW Confirmed it won't happen krazy-blazer

It doesn't matter, Activision will force them, or make Treyarch do it.

This is stupid! They only want more money. FFS! :x:x:evil:

Guys, IW Confirmed it won't happen krazy-blazer

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]Guys, IW Confirmed it won't happen DarkGamer007

It doesn't matter, Activision will force them, or make Treyarch do it.

I think he was joking.

Guys, IW Confirmed it won't happen krazy-blazer

And yet, a great number of slurpers will STILL accuse me, and other's sharing my point of view, of being elitist jerks for refusing to buy Activision products. :roll:

Jesus christ.....does anyone know what peer 2 peer actually is? I see one person here that understands the concept and that is it. There are no servers that physically handles transfer of information from server to client, Peer 2 peer is a system of nodes without a central infrastructure. You all share the data from one another unlike a more traditional client to server where the server feeds data and the client consumes. xXDrPainXx

Activision is awesome. They are totally capitalizing on everyone's addiction to gaming. I'm quite frankly really pleased they are doing this. Its good to have a company that will try to push their customers to see how far they are willing to go. Maybe this will finally be the straw that breaks the camel's back, or it will just continue to prove out that the majority of gamers are just so pathetic that they will let corporations walk all over them. Either way, I'll just sit back, watch and laugh my ass off.beekayjay

Yeah, I voted that's business. Because business isn't personal. Like Gordon Gekko said in Wall Street , don't get emotional over money. It's not against the law for these companies to do this, and with the success of WoW and Live, it is looking like money left on the table to these companies. Now should this start, I simply won't buy. But I won't say what's right or wrong for any company I don't own.cainetao11

Screw Activision. I told you guys, you need to stop buying everything made/published by them before they prove they can do it right and other companies adopt it.ForsakenWicked

So we'll pay for XBL + to Activision just to play the multiplayer mode of the game we've already paid for.

LOL! pay pay pay pay pay pay pay pay pay pay. Might as well charge us for every gun that we use. Jesus.