Activision to introduce pay-to-play online service for Call of Duty

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#151 rolo107
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"]WoW is an MMO. It has dedicated servers that host hundreds to thousands of players, sometimes dozens upon dozens onscreen simultaneously. COD has a player cap of 18 players with P2P networking, matchmaking, randomized bullcrap, etc. We can get all of this content from users if they would simply give us deds and mod tools. We had all that content in COD4. They took it away with their IWnet experiment. I don't see any justification for this service. They had better at least provide their own dedicated servers to justify the monthly fee. They should also expect commercial failure.

If the money actually goes to good use, all of that would be remedied and more. That's what I would expect. Otherwise they would have no success whatsoever. I'd expect Dedicated Servers, routine updates, very much like WoW, of course with the FPS twist.
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#152 heretrix
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[QUOTE="jyoung312"][QUOTE="Deadly_Fatalis"]I really hope that by doing this, people will finally realize how much they are being scammed out of their money and the next COD game will flop in sales. I can dream....GTR2addict

Well I hope so too bc the next game will be a treyarch game, ugh. Maybe if the next one flops then activision will learn not to let treyarch touch the series. I've been tempted to buy MW2 but I am going to remain patient and wait for gamefly to do its thing and ship me the game. I hate all activision games with the exception of those made by IW and even those I could live without.

CoD WaW > MW2 Fact

No, I'm pretty sure that's opinion.

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#153 Dante2710
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and people will continue to feed activision`s greed as well as IW`s.
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#154 InfiniteBlak
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glad i dont like COD or activision. doesnt affect me at all.
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#155 Bigboi500
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CoD: MW2- $60

Xbox Live Gold annual fee- $50

CoD online monthly subscription- $10-$20

Watching people part with their money easily- priceless.

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#156 loco145
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Yay!, perhaps the inane hype for this game will die now.
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#157 scarface_dm
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As I said before, Hahahahha to all you sheep

you guys make MW2 the best selling launch game and they repay you like this :lol:

CANT SAY I TOLD YOU SO

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#158 gmc2u_64
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Hopefully it won't happen...

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#159 jyoung312
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[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]

[QUOTE="jyoung312"] Well I hope so too bc the next game will be a treyarch game, ugh. Maybe if the next one flops then activision will learn not to let treyarch touch the series. I've been tempted to buy MW2 but I am going to remain patient and wait for gamefly to do its thing and ship me the game. I hate all activision games with the exception of those made by IW and even those I could live without.heretrix

CoD WaW > MW2 Fact

No, I'm pretty sure that's opinion.

WaW felt way ham handed with it's scripting. Game felt like it was trying too hard to be epic. Instead of letting the core gameplay and setpieces make the gameplay great, Treyarch ripped off all the slow-mo sequences of CoD4 and recycled those same sequences to the point that instead of being epic they were beating you over the head with the notion that "omg this sequence should be really kewl guys, be shocked!"
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#160 AsadMahdi59
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wow. well i guess i wont be buying anymore COD :(

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#161 beekayjay
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Kotick and company are just laughing at gamers. Theyre treating them like crap, and the zealots are just lapping it all up like self-hating junkies. Sure, a lot of talk now about how Activision is this and that, but when it comes down to it, gamers are still gonna pay through the nose to play the next COD.
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#162 loco145
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WaW felt way ham handed with it's scripting. Game felt like it was trying too hard to be epic. Instead of letting the core gameplay and setpieces make the gameplay great, Treyarch ripped off all the slow-mo sequences of CoD4 and recycled those same sequences to the point that instead of being epic they were beating you over the head with the notion that "omg this sequence should be really kewl guys, be shocked!"jyoung312
The thing is, WWII was epic, veyr epic. The Battle of Stalingrad, omg. MW2 leaves any sense of realism that MW1 had and now is a pure fantasy shooter ala Gears of War.

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#163 mattbbpl
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Kotick and company are just laughing at gamers. Theyre treating them like crap, and the zealots are just lapping it all up like self-hating junkies. Sure, a lot of talk now about how Activision is this and that, but when it comes down to it, gamers are still gonna pay through the nose to play the next COD. beekayjay
That's exactly what Activision is banking on. Eventually they're going to go too far, and then they'll see poor sales. Of course, they'll just blame piracy...
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#164 CoolSkAGuy
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I Haven't bought an activision game since Guitar Hero 2, was going to buy MW2 but decided to skip it when I heard what they did to PC gamers. Ill definitely NOT buy any Activision games in the future.
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#165 jyoung312
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[QUOTE="jyoung312"]WaW felt way ham handed with it's scripting. Game felt like it was trying too hard to be epic. Instead of letting the core gameplay and setpieces make the gameplay great, Treyarch ripped off all the slow-mo sequences of CoD4 and recycled those same sequences to the point that instead of being epic they were beating you over the head with the notion that "omg this sequence should be really kewl guys, be shocked!"loco145

The thing is, WWII was epic, veyr epic. The Battle of Stalingrad, omg. MW2 leaves any sense of realism that MW1 had and now is a pure fantasy shooter ala Gears of War.

I haven't played MW2 yet so can't comment on that yet but MW1>WaW. I know WWII was epic (thus why it was such good video game material for such a long time) and WaW had some awesome gameplay especially when you are charging the Reichstag (sp?) and the Japanese temple but then Treyarch messed up awesome core gameplay and setpieces with stupid "epic" slowdown moments
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#166 MrSlippery39
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As much as I love Call of Duty, I would not buy it anymore if Activision did this.

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#167 DragonfireXZ95
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I posted this back during the summer when it was first announced.

COD's a great game but no way will I pay additional fees on top of an already unnecessary Xbox Live fee. Good thing I never cared much for CODs super casual friendly gameplay, I only play it to take a break from something better, like Halo 3, or to wait for something better like Bad Company 2.

ThePRAssassin

Lol, this is funny cause he says, "super casual friendly gameplay" when describing CoD games and then quotes Halo 3 as being better.

Irony at it's finest.

As for me... I've hated the CoD franchise since CoD:MW, I didn't buy MW2 and I'm not planning on getting anymore CoD games. :P

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#169 Trmpt
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They better create some INSANE multiplayer if they do this.
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#170 htekemerald
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Hey remember when PC gamers were all like "If you support MW2, more stuff like no dedicated servers will be coming" yeah this is what we were talking about.

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#171 HaLoMaStErJT
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that sucks I may change my mind on buying MW2

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#172 MJ4040
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Wow. Just wow.

I know that I shouldnt be surprised that gaming has come to this, just like many business mediums do when they get too big, they decide to rip off the consumers. Just like the insurance industry, and the auto industry, and the music industry, and the movie industry, and the news industry, and on and on etc.

Sad, because video gaming always seemed like it was about the consumers, and now we cant even count on the people who sell unreal things, to treat real people with respect.

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#173 Gundamforce
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I haven't got MW2 yet (I'm broke at the moment), but if this is true, than i won't buy unless there are goods like free maps and such for such a subscription.

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#174 Vesica_Prime
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Milky milky milk milk milk.

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#175 ThePRAssassin
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[QUOTE="ThePRAssassin"]

I posted this back during the summer when it was first announced.

COD's a great game but no way will I pay additional fees on top of an already unnecessary Xbox Live fee. Good thing I never cared much for CODs super casual friendly gameplay, I only play it to take a break from something better, like Halo 3, or to wait for something better like Bad Company 2.

DragonfireXZ95

Lol, this is funny cause he says, "super casual friendly gameplay" when describing CoD games and then quotes Halo 3 as being better.

Irony at it's finest.

As for me... I've hated the CoD franchise since CoD:MW, I didn't buy MW2 and I'm not planning on getting anymore CoD games. :P

...are you implying that Halo 3 is more casual friendly than COD? Oh yeah, I forgot. No matter what any other game does, Halo must take priority in who gets hate more.

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#176 drakecool1
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if this happens I wont purchase another Call of Duty game or any activision game.

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#177 Classic24
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sucks to be a 360 owner lol

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#178 bphan
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Halo has always been better than COD.

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#179 Toriko42
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sucks to be a 360 owner lol

Classic24
Uh this program would be on the PS3 and PC too :|
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#180 drakecool1
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[QUOTE="Classic24"]

sucks to be a 360 owner lol

Toriko42

Uh this program would be on the PS3 and PC too :|

yea but 360 is already paying for online now they have to pay the online fee + the activision fee = double the misery.

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#181 jyoung312
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[QUOTE="Classic24"]

sucks to be a 360 owner lol

Toriko42
Uh this program would be on the PS3 and PC too :|

Yes but to pay for cod online ontop of xbl would be ridiculous. It's already bad enough you gotta pay for online to get the full game anyway.
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#182 Bladex2k
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well they merged with blizzard and see how much money wow is raking in... so why not do it with cod which has alot of people plying online aswell. greeeeeeeeeeeedy activsion no wonder i never liked them

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#183 SoNin360
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Umm if I have to start paying to play Call of Duty online then I'm done. **** it. I don't care how good it can be sometimes there's no ****ing way I would pay for it. They would lose a good amount of players, but they don't give a **** because several of the addicted fools would pay for it and they would be getting even more money shoved up thier asses. **** you Activision.

Sorry about that. :oops:

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#184 taj7575
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Umm if I have to start paying to play Call of Duty online then I'm done. **** it. I don't care how good it can be sometimes there's no ****ing way I would pay for it. They would lose a good amount of players, but they don't give a **** because several of the addicted fools would pay for it and they would be getting even more money shoved up thier asses. **** you Activision.

Sorry about that. :oops:

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No probs; couldnt have said it any better :P

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#185 MischiefmAker
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"We have great experience also on Call of Duty with the success we had on Xbox Live and PlayStation Network. A lot of that knowledge is getting actually built into the Battle.Net platform and the design of that," he added.

Epic fail.. I guess we were right.. all those buying map packs as DLC is going to kill gaming in the end.

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Haha, great use of the picture there! Too bad that news definitely makes me anxious. :?

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#186 treedoor
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It's funny because there were/are people stupid enough to try and justify the PC version of MW2 getting crippled.

And there will be stupid people justifying this too if it happens.

Activision sure does love those people :D

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#187 PSGamerforlife
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LOL.

Why do people keep going for CoD?

MW2 is nothing that great. Stop buying the rehashes cos your only going to be worse off...christ sakes.

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#188 Kiyobear
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Everyone who picked up CoD MW 2 and is now acting like this is the last straw I blame YOU!

They are just going to keep buying it and playing it and Activision knows it. How many game of the year awards will MW 2 get? I will still game next gen I will just stay a generation behind and forget about most MP games. It's not like I'm not sick of the annoying kids online these days, anyway. I will have enough games from this generation to last me another six years.

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#189 KingsMessenger
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This is the first in what I see to be many shifts in the business model. The current business model is not sustainable. The costs are rising too rapidly and the revenue has no way of keeping up. The market is growing, but it isn't growing at the same rate that development costs are. Next gen will force developers to do things in different ways just to break even. Sustainable subscriptions are an immediate and obvious solution to the issue, but that alienates a certain portion of the userbase and also isn't feasible across the large number of products that are available. More likely is major releases with huge brands will go the subscription route, while other releases rely on microtransactions selling premium items to users who wish to have them for non-competitive gameplay. DLC is another option because the cost of developing DLC is low and the profit margins are high. Nobody here has shown any signs of A) recognizing or B) accepting the fact that the business model of selling games new at $60 will not work for much longer. People aren't going to be willing to spend $70-80 on a single game. They just aren't. The current price is just about as high as the market will sustain. But, next gen, development costs will soar yet again due to the higher quality content that needs to be made. Games aren't suddenly going to start selling twice what they do now, so the extra costs need to be picked up elsewhere. Alternate revenue streams need to be established. Business is business and like it or not, the games industry is in a position where it isn't popular enough with the mass market to justify the development costs, and it can't increase the price anymore, so.... Yeah... I am going to predict a lot of companies following Activision and doing things like this. That is the only way the industry can survive without going the route of the Wii.
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#190 nooblet69
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Horrible, why are they doing this! I just wanna play the game online casually and have fun.

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#191 mdisen2
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If it's a product worth paying for, I'll gladly pay.

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#192 dream431ca
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Xbox Live users pay for Xbox Live, why are they now mad about Activision charging to play online? You allow MS to charge you up the A$$, why not Activision? The hypocrisy is killing me.

If it's a product worth paying for, I'll gladly pay.

mdisen2

I rest my case.

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#193 taj7575
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Xbox Live users pay for Xbox Live, why are they now mad about Activision charging to play online? You allow MS to charge you up the A$$, why not Activision? The hypocrisy is killing me.

[QUOTE="mdisen2"]

If it's a product worth paying for, I'll gladly pay.

dream431ca

I rest my case.

Well, atleast xbox live is somewhat worth paying for. Paying to play an FPS online? Hell no!

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#194 PSdual_wielder
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Horrible, why are they doing this! I just wanna play the game online casually and have fun.

nooblet69

It is exactly that kind of mentality that activision would even dare to capitalize on. If they do make CoD a pay-to-play service, they're just going to taking it further and further. Eventually they will charge people extra for that extra slice of pizza and can of pop that accompanies the gamer's playtime, and even make you pay to have a seat to be playing the game, and to go to the bathroom during your game time. They want to take every bit of money from you if it is within their ability.

So stop..supporting...activision. :evil:

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#195 jdc6305
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I can see the fees for online gaming quickly getting out of control. I've played games for years without online I can do it again. I prefer a game with a story over minlessly running around shooting at people anyways.

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#196 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Xbox Live users pay for Xbox Live, why are they now mad about Activision charging to play online? You allow MS to charge you up the A$$, why not Activision? The hypocrisy is killing me.

[QUOTE="mdisen2"]

If it's a product worth paying for, I'll gladly pay.

taj7575

I rest my case.

Well, atleast xbox live is somewhat worth paying for. Paying to play an FPS online? Hell no!

You do realise that when you pay for Xbox Live you are paying to play the FPS online right? I really can't see supporters of paying for Xbox Live mad about Activision charging them since they don't mind paying for Xbox Live. If your fine with paying for Xbox Live, this should not bother you, I mean, Xbox Live is the superior online system and now you get a "superior" FPS online system right? God I love this. :lol: It's so amusing to see all the 360 fanboys backing Microsoft and Xbox Live and how they gladly pay for it, but then Activision wants to charge you to play online with MW2 and all the fanboys cry foul. I love this. :lol:

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#197 taj7575
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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

I rest my case.

dream431ca

Well, atleast xbox live is somewhat worth paying for. Paying to play an FPS online? Hell no!

You do realise that when you pay for Xbox Live you are paying to play the FPS online right? I really can't see supporters of paying for Xbox Live mad about Activision charging them since they don't mind paying for Xbox Live. If your fine with paying for Xbox Live, this should not bother you, I mean, Xbox Live is the superior online system and now you get a "superior" FPS online system right? God I love this. :lol: It's so amusing to see all the 360 fanboys backing Microsoft and Xbox Live and how they gladly pay for it, but then Activision wants to charge you to play online with MW2 and all the fanboys cry foul. I love this. :lol:

Im not an xbox fanboy at all :|. One of the reasons I sold my 360 is paying for live.. All I'm saying is the even though both are wrong, paying for an online service that gives a few features is better than paying for an online FPS. Either way theyre both wrong, but I'm just pointing out..

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#198 ASRCSR
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So are they introducing a pay-to-play on just PC or all systems?

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#199 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

Well, atleast xbox live is somewhat worth paying for. Paying to play an FPS online? Hell no!

taj7575

You do realise that when you pay for Xbox Live you are paying to play the FPS online right? I really can't see supporters of paying for Xbox Live mad about Activision charging them since they don't mind paying for Xbox Live. If your fine with paying for Xbox Live, this should not bother you, I mean, Xbox Live is the superior online system and now you get a "superior" FPS online system right? God I love this. :lol: It's so amusing to see all the 360 fanboys backing Microsoft and Xbox Live and how they gladly pay for it, but then Activision wants to charge you to play online with MW2 and all the fanboys cry foul. I love this. :lol:

Im not an xbox fanboy at all :|. One of the reasons I sold my 360 is paying for live.. All I'm saying is the even though both are wrong, paying for an online service that gives a few features is better than paying for an online FPS. Either way theyre both wrong, but I'm just pointing out..

I didn't mean to direct the Xbox fanboy to you. I apologize if it seemed that way. It was meant to be directed at all the Xbox Live supporters. Sorry for the confusion.

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#200 taj7575
Member since 2008 • 12084 Posts

So are they introducing a pay-to-play on just PC or all systems?

ASRCSR

Apparently all systems.