Adrian Chmielarz destroys Polygon's editor

He basically deconstructs bullshit behind this and many other Social Justice Warriors and their blind crusade...It's a very good read albeit a very long one at that:

https://medium.com/@adrianchm/the-boy-who-cried-white-wolf-on-polygon-s-the-witcher-3-review-f7ac8d7f0a5

Damn, get rekt.

Doesn't this belong in Games discussion, preferably in some GamerGate thread?

These are the kind of assholes that would rate Duke3d down, thank golly globs these casual filthys didn't have interest in hardcore gamings during the 90' flops.

@Salt_The_Fries: Great article. There's not much worse then a white guilt liberal trying to act like they are making the world a better place with fucking nonsense.

Polygon sucks though and Polygon and Arther Geis have always been garbage.

well they do make it kind of easy

Good rant! Lol at Polygon complaining about there being no people of color in the Witcher.

Shit like this is why gamergate is still a thing

Fucking ideologues man

I should play The Vanishing of Ethan Carter...

That Witcher 3 review. Lulz

What world do SJWs live in?

Telling an artist what their art should consist of is selfish and unprofessional. Talk about intolerance.

The thing is, instead of just ignoring it people would rather get angry and link/write about it, which in turn shines a spotlight on shitty reviewers and brings them those clicks.

If anything, people should be angry about what a shit show metacritic is.

I mean, it almost seems like people are surprised when polygon posts ultra-troll clickbaiting reviews. We should all just learn to never give the site hits again so it dies it's painful and well deserved death.

they're ugly and/or fat, a world without many women.

They think white knighting will change that, but it only makes it worse for them. Chicks don't want no limp wristed beta liberal.

Polygon is trash, why do people actually pay attention to them? It's the only gaming focussed site worse than Kotaku.

Pretty much

Metacritic is far bigger problem then some guy on the internet expressing a flawed opinion on game misogyny. Adrian Chmielarz is an idiot if he thinks reviews like this influence the industry enough to be "poisonous."

Arthur Gies is terrible but I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with this type of discussion in the context of video games. If anything it should be encouraged to discuss video games from different angles due to how insular and all around bad the video game community is, an example being GamerGate. Even the OP who un-ironically used the term "SJW" - he clearly doesn't want to have an honest discussion about the social context of video games otherwise he wouldn't have poisoned the well from the very first post. A lot of members of the community shun dissenting opinions and viewpoints and IMO that's far worse than any shitty Arthur Gies article.

Polygon has sucked for a long time, pretty much right when they opened up shop.

I don't need someone else's take on Arthur Gies or Poly to confirm my long held opinion. I'm just glad more people are coming around to the idea of avoiding their shitbait.

That article was a very good read and I agree with it.

The thing that gamers have failed to convey to non-gamers in this post-GamerGate world is that the points that radfems use to attack gamers are on grounds that aren't exclusive to gaming, for instance Anita Sarkeesian condemns the victimization of women in games because she claims it perpetuates real world violence against women by depicting them as weak and ripe for victimization... okay, same can be said to just about most TV programming, but of course they'll never attack television or movies because people will be too ready to call them out on their bullshit.

lol at Arthur Gies

Here's the thing: Every time discussions like sexism or violence come up, it's always in a one-sided manner while also making issues out of non-issues (such as criticizing torture of an innocent man in a game where you are encourage to murder up to 50 people over a beer or being called names)

There's not a single instance of sexism and violence being brought up where the people making the discussion aren't actively demonizing those who play or enjoy such games, the well is poisoned before the topic even begins being discussed, the gamergate scandal is also another example of this, since it started with a spiteful ex showing off dirty laundry, any call to adress corruption in journalism gets shot down with cries of "hate group!"

The discussion is good and sometimes it would be nice to be able to adress it, but it won't be anytime soon because all the parties involved are too passionate about their points of view to have a talk that won't devolve into a flamewar

Lolygon should be off the map.

It's a Provisional Review

The opposite end of the spectrum is pretty bad too, they are boycotting Mad Max as a anti-men movie. Pretty ironic considering it's one of the best action movies of the last 20 years.

Although that is far more rare than sjw/feminist bullshit.

do you know this from personal experience?

A real discussion of sexism and misogyny in video games would/could lead to a lot of good in the realm of video games, but I do agree with your point that one person's vibrant opinion can taint the discussion before it even begins.

There are a lot of strong feelings going both ways and those are what ruin the discussion. Cool heads do not prevail.

nope. born an alpha.

Because of inflammatory and misleading headlines, like every other successful tabloid uses. The sooner people start ignoring garbage sites like these, the better off gaming news as a whole will be.

Daniel Vavra of Kingdom come: Deliverance and Denis Dyack went in too due to Polygon complaining about that there weren't any black guys in Witcher 3 or something.

What I find sad is that these guys are standing up for a game that is not even theirs while CDPR are just sitting there and not giving a ****. It'd be funny though if CDPR came out of the woodwork only to defend Gies' right to write that shit.

Honestly some of these publications are outright bigoted. They expect games based upon the cultures, history and demographics of different countries to conform entirely to their US centric ideals. The idea that a game set within Slavic mythology should pander to these people because of their personal sensitivities is incredibly egotistical.

You literally can't win with these people anyway, as the article mentions, make the changes Gies wants and he'd instead be writing about "token" characters. He's the type that could walk into an empty room and find misogyny.

Is lostrib always this aggressive?

If the SJWs had their way, this is the only way females would be portrayed in games.

**** censorship.

@Gue1: I'll never understand System War's obsession with "what if " scenarios that would do nothing but spite one side of the argument

Polygon likes getting rekt. It gives them attention. And views.

lol Polygon.

Lol @ game journalism keeping itself alive by cannibalism.

Oh yeah absolutely, I agree. There's really no way these issues and topics can be done with any nuance and insight in the realm of the video game community. It's inherently a toxic environment, from the fans to the media all the way to the developers and publishers. It essentially becomes a shouting match from the outset because neither are willing to understand one another's viewpoint. Of course I think addressing "corruption in games journalism" is a stupid endeavor but that's a discussion for another day.

The bolded I think is also very important because this can apply to just about any other topic in the industry as well.

Nothing wrong with discussing it but penalizing a game based on your own personal politics or perceived social injustices? To me that's over stepping your boundaries.

I don't see why video game fantasy needs to reflect reality or modern society standards. Why play them at all if they have to be politically correct?

If it's backed up well (unlike anything Gies writes) I don't see the problem. If we're going to see video games as art you also need to accept that they're going to be viewed through a sociopolitical and cultural lens just like films and books are. With that also comes different viewpoints and interpretations of each piece, some that are shitty and others that are not so shitty. Heck, if anything, to me the reviews that stray outside the realm of glorified blog posts/product summaries are usually way more compelling to read.

The whole thing about what makes The Witchers morality works is how grounded and believable it actually is. To act like this shit has no business in something so many people on this forum would call is "art" is completely underselling the greater potential of the medium. The actual shit being talked about isn't the issue, it's the way it's presented by some of these poor writers.

Weird complaint by Gies, but I can see where he's coming from. He has a right to write whatever he wrote in that provisional review.

@Shewgenja said:

If the SJWs had their way, this is the only way females would be portrayed in games.

**** censorship.

But ninja's are cool.

#Neogaf?

twittersphere

That too.