Alan Wake looks better than Unchrted 2 or not ?

Ok so what do ya say you put up a poll and let the poll decide which is better?

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

So a game has to have a large scale (which Alan Wake's is not even anything impressive), forests (?), and volumetric lighting to look better than another? I'm pretty sure the overall concensus of SW is that Uncharted 2 is better. You can still be the only one to think AW is better

Well, if it has those, yes, it would look host lot better

Crysis has huge scale, forests and volumetric lighting and is considered hands down the best looking game, am i wrong ?

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

Uncharted 2 areas are tiny comparing to Alan Wake open places, that is a fact, Uncharted 2 pulls fake huge scale, Alan wake one is actual places you can go and walk in

theseekar

Well, when you play Alan Wake, and get to explore whole mountain sides and rolling hills, then you will know it is 100x bigger i walkable area than Uncharted 2 in its levels

TC, you are creating a bunch of psuedo-standards. The whole foliage point is a good example of that.

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

So a game has to have a large scale (which Alan Wake's is not even anything impressive), forests (?), and volumetric lighting to look better than another? I'm pretty sure the overall concensus of SW is that Uncharted 2 is better. You can still be the only one to think AW is better

KevinButlerVP

Well, if it has those, yes, it would look host lot better

Crysis has huge scale, forests and volumetric lighting and is considered hands down the best looking game, am i wrong ?

Well, so you tell me the volumetric lighting, huge forests and scale are in my imagination? because RE5 has none of those

Sorry, but why would i care for the uneducated opinion from a random guy that has obviously never even played Alan Wake ? Or does nto know what is talking about anyway

That is, if he ever compared the world and visuals of Alan Wake to RE5, you say so, but i have not read his words

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="theseekar"]

Well, if it has those, yes, it would look host lot better

Crysis has huge scale, forests and volumetric lighting and is considered hands down the best looking game, am i wrong ?

theseekar

Well, so you tell me the volumetric lighting, huge forests and scale are in my imagination? because RE5 has none of those

Sorry, but why would i car for the uneducated opinion from a random guy that has obviously never even played Alan Wake ?

TC, you are creating a bunch of psuedo-standards. The whole foliage point is a good example of that.

GreySeal9

That is a standard Crysis set, it is not my fault all PS3 exclusives cant follow it at all, since none has huge open forests like Alan Wake or Crysis

Amazing thnk foliage is the hardest thing to do and by large a standard in graphics

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

So a game has to have a large scale (which Alan Wake's is not even anything impressive), forests (?), and volumetric lighting to look better than another? I'm pretty sure the overall concensus of SW is that Uncharted 2 is better. You can still be the only one to think AW is better

KevinButlerVP

Well, if it has those, yes, it would look host lot better

Crysis has huge scale, forests and volumetric lighting and is considered hands down the best looking game, am i wrong ?

That's like you opinion man and his! For me Alan Wake looks a lot better than RE5 and has more playable area than UC2 too.

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] Alan Wake looks on par with RE5, this is coming from Kevin-V a credible reviewerKevinButlerVP

Well, so you tell me the volumetric lighting, huge forests and scale are in my imagination? because RE5 has none of those

Sorry, but why would i car for the uneducated opinion from a random guy that has obviously never even played Alan Wake ?

well, if he did not see the bigger scale, volumetric lighting and forests, none of which is on RE5 and yet compared them, then, again, i am not intersted in such an "opinion", because is 100% false

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="theseekar"]

Well, if it has those, yes, it would look host lot better

Crysis has huge scale, forests and volumetric lighting and is considered hands down the best looking game, am i wrong ?

xhawk27

That's like you opinion man and his! For me Alan Wake looks a lot better than RE5 and has more playable area than UC2 too.

That, far better lighting too

I am sure Kevin-V never compared Alan wake areas and visuals to RE5 though, they are100% different in every way

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="theseekar"]

Well, if it has those, yes, it would look host lot better

Crysis has huge scale, forests and volumetric lighting and is considered hands down the best looking game, am i wrong ?

Well, so you tell me the volumetric lighting, huge forests and scale are in my imagination? because RE5 has none of those

Sorry, but why would i care for the uneducated opinion from a random guy that has obviously never even played Alan Wake ? Or does nto know what is talking about anyway

That is, if he ever compared the world and visuals of Alan Wake to RE5, you say so, but i have not read his words

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] Alan Wake looks on par with RE5, this is coming from Kevin-V a credible reviewerbobbleheadrogue

Well, so you tell me the volumetric lighting, huge forests and scale are in my imagination? because RE5 has none of those

Sorry, but why would i care for the uneducated opinion from a random guy that has obviously never even played Alan Wake ? Or does nto know what is talking about anyway

That is, if he ever compared the world and visuals of Alan Wake to RE5, you say so, but i have not read his words

Well, if he compared Alan Wake world size and graphics to RE5, then how is he any credible again ?

Are thre huge open places and forests in RE5 - NOPE

IS there dynamic volumetric lgighting in RE5 - NOPE

Maybe huge physics and weather effects in foliage - NOPE

So, whaton earth do these have in common, they are not coparable in the slightes little bit

maybe he compared gameplay is my guess

[QUOTE="bobbleheadrogue"][QUOTE="theseekar"]

Well, so you tell me the volumetric lighting, huge forests and scale are in my imagination? because RE5 has none of those

Sorry, but why would i care for the uneducated opinion from a random guy that has obviously never even played Alan Wake ? Or does nto know what is talking about anyway

That is, if he ever compared the world and visuals of Alan Wake to RE5, you say so, but i have not read his words

theseekar

Well, if he compared Alan Wake world size and graphics to RE5, then how is he any credible again ?

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="theseekar"]

Well, so you tell me the volumetric lighting, huge forests and scale are in my imagination? because RE5 has none of those

Sorry, but why would i car for the uneducated opinion from a random guy that has obviously never even played Alan Wake ?

well, if he did not see the bigger scale, volumetric lighting and forests, none of which is on RE5 and yet compared them, then, again, i am not intersted in such an "opinion", because is 100% false

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] I'm not sure why you are taking about automobiles, but Kevin-V is the one who reviewed the game so I'm pretty sure he's played itKevinButlerVP

well, if he did not see the bigger scale, volumetric lighting and forests, none of which is on RE5 and yet compared them, then, again, i am not intersted in such an "opinion", because is 100% false

I just posted facts, and my opinion

Noone here has actually posted an opinion, only the opinion of some Kevn-V i have never heard of

If Kevin thinks RE5 is same as Alan Wake, i am sure he can come back it up here, until then i only value true baced up opinions, not "but my aunt thinks it looks like RE5"

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="theseekar"]

well, if he did not see the bigger scale, volumetric lighting and forests, none of which is on RE5 and yet compared them, then, again, i am not intersted in such an "opinion", because is 100% false

theseekar

I just posted facts, and my opinion

Noone here has actually posted an opinion, only the opinion of some Kevn-V i have never heard of

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="theseekar"]

well, if he did not see the bigger scale, volumetric lighting and forests, none of which is on RE5 and yet compared them, then, again, i am not intersted in such an "opinion", because is 100% false

I just posted facts, and my opinion

Noone here has actually posted an opinion, only the opinion of some Kevn-V i have never heard of

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] I'm not sure why you are taking about automobiles, but Kevin-V is the one who reviewed the game so I'm pretty sure he's played itKevinButlerVP

well, if he did not see the bigger scale, volumetric lighting and forests, none of which is on RE5 and yet compared them, then, again, i am not intersted in such an "opinion", because is 100% false

Maybe, just maybe, icould have a link to Kevin-V exact words btw ?

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] so if I'm not interested in your "opinion" does that mean it's 100% false? going by ur logic btwKevinButlerVP

I just posted facts, and my opinion

Noone here has actually posted an opinion, only the opinion of some Kevn-V i have never heard of

I never said that, i have backed up my opinion in the very first post

ANY backed up opinion is wellcome, any "my aunt thinks it loks better" is usless to me, it is not a backed up opinion

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="theseekar"]

Well, so you tell me the volumetric lighting, huge forests and scale are in my imagination? because RE5 has none of those

Sorry, but why would i car for the uneducated opinion from a random guy that has obviously never even played Alan Wake ?

theseekar

well, if he did not see the bigger scale, and forests, none of which is on RE5 and yet compared them, then, again, i am not intersted in such an "opinion", because is 100% false

Dude there is much more to graphics than scale (which actually doesn't really say anything about the graphics), forests, which again, I don't understand why you keep bringing up forests. Do you only play games that take place is forests and Alan Wake have your favorites trees???

And the volumetric lighting isn't even that impressive looking "Whoaaaaa look at the light beams coming through the tree lines!!!!"

Uncharted 2 also has very good lighting as well so I don't know what your deal is

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

TC, you are creating a bunch of psuedo-standards. The whole foliage point is a good example of that.

theseekar

That is a standard Crysis set, it is not my fault all PS3 exclusives cant follow it at all, since none has huge open forests like Alan Wake or Crysis

Amazing thnk foliage is the hardest thing to do and by large a standard in graphics

The quality of a game's visuals in not judged on "what is hardest to do." They are also not judged based on Crysis either, especially when console games can't be expected to look that good. Nowhere does it say that for a game to have top visuals, it must possess huge open forests. Like I said, you are creating psuedo-standards.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="theseekar"]

well, if he did not see the bigger scale, volumetric lighting and forests, none of which is on RE5 and yet compared them, then, again, i am not intersted in such an "opinion", because is 100% false

theseekar

I just posted facts, and my opinion

Noone here has actually posted an opinion, only the opinion of some Kevn-V i have never heard of

The Elder's Scrolls 2 has the largest game world ever, does that mean it is graphics king now?

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="theseekar"]

I just posted facts, and my opinion

Noone here has actually posted an opinion, only the opinion of some Kevn-V i have never heard of

I never said that, i have backed up my opinion in the very first post

ANY backed up opinion is wellcome, any "my aunt thinks it loks better" is usless to me, it is not a backed up opinion

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

TC, you are creating a bunch of psuedo-standards. The whole foliage point is a good example of that.

GreySeal9

That is a standard Crysis set, it is not my fault all PS3 exclusives cant follow it at all, since none has huge open forests like Alan Wake or Crysis

Amazing thnk foliage is the hardest thing to do and by large a standard in graphics

The quality of a game's visuals in not judged on "what is hardest to do." They are also not judged based on Crysis either, especially when console games can't be expected to look that good. Nowhere does it say that for a game to have top visuals, it must possess huge open forests. Like I said, you are creating psuedo-standards.

Well, but having huge complexity IS a standard, and that is exactly what huge thick forests have

Wellcome to Crysis world

Alan Wake looks great but Uncharted2 looks better. Still nothing on consolescomes close to Alan Wake´s Lightning, weather effects and atmosphere.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

That is a standard Crysis set, it is not my fault all PS3 exclusives cant follow it at all, since none has huge open forests like Alan Wake or Crysis

Amazing thnk foliage is the hardest thing to do and by large a standard in graphics

theseekar

The quality of a game's visuals in not judged on "what is hardest to do." They are also not judged based on Crysis either, especially when console games can't be expected to look that good. Nowhere does it say that for a game to have top visuals, it must possess huge open forests. Like I said, you are creating psuedo-standards.

Well, but having huge complexity IS a standard, and that is exactly what huge thick forests have

Wellcome to Crysis world

According to who? You?

Welcome to Crysis world? It is that really your response to what I said about Crysis? Really?

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] So if no one here has posted opinions that they must be facts right? Now your saying u can only have an opinion, but no one else can :lol:KevinButlerVP

I never said that, i have backed up my opinion in the very first post

ANY backed up opinion is wellcome, any "my aunt thinks it loks better" is usless to me, it is not a backed up opinion

It is an open world in places, i want a backed up opinion from someone that has played the game

A game can be linear and have an open world, you should play Crysis too, it is that way

And i did not read any fact, because the huge open spaces are there, fact is something real, not something you make up from maybe videos you have seen of a game

And you still did not mention any reason why Uncharted 2 is better ovrall actually, only that has better textures, which i say in my first post here anyway

The Elder's Scrolls 2 has the largest game world ever, does that mean it is graphics king now?

Hakkai007

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="theseekar"]

I never said that, i have backed up my opinion in the very first post

ANY backed up opinion is wellcome, any "my aunt thinks it loks better" is usless to me, it is not a backed up opinion

theseekar

It is an open world in places, i want a backed up opinion from someone that has played the game

A game can be linear and have an open world, you should play Crysis too, it is that way

And i did not read any fact, because the huge open spaces are there, fact is something real, not something you make up from maybe videos you have seen of a game

I would still like to see that poll.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="theseekar"]

I never said that, i have backed up my opinion in the very first post

ANY backed up opinion is wellcome, any "my aunt thinks it loks better" is usless to me, it is not a backed up opinion

It is an open world in places, i want a backed up opinion from someone that has played the game

A game can be linear and have an open world, you should play Crysis too, it is that way

And i did not read any fact, because the huge open spaces are there, fact is something real, not something you make up from maybe videos you have seen of a game

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

The Elder's Scrolls 2 has the largest game world ever, does that mean it is graphics king now?

DerekLoffin

But Oblivion does not use next gen effects, of course there are other huge worlds, but the effects used are last gen compaing to AW

The point is that Alan Wake has better and more next gen effects/lighting than Uncarted 2 AND bigger scale at the same time

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] ok, fact Alan Wake runs @ 540p SD. Alan Wake is linear and is in no way shape or form open world. Alan Wake has low res textures, and has an 83 at MC not meeting the hype of AAA. Those were all facts that I stated excpect for maybe the low res texturesKevinButlerVP

It is an open world in places, i want a backed up opinion from someone that has played the game

A game can be linear and have an open world, you should play Crysis too, it is that way

And i did not read any fact, because the huge open spaces are there, fact is something real, not something you make up from maybe videos you have seen of a game

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"][QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

The Elder's Scrolls 2 has the largest game world ever, does that mean it is graphics king now?

But Oblivion does not use next gen effects, of course there are other huge worlds, but the effects used are last gen compaing to AW

The point is that Alan Wake has better and more next gen effects/lighting than Uncarted 2 AND bigger scale at the same time

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] ok, fact Alan Wake runs @ 540p SD. Alan Wake is linear and is in no way shape or form open world. Alan Wake has low res textures, and has an 83 at MC not meeting the hype of AAA. Those were all facts that I stated excpect for maybe the low res texturesKevinButlerVP

It is an open world in places, i want a backed up opinion from someone that has played the game

A game can be linear and have an open world, you should play Crysis too, it is that way

And i did not read any fact, because the huge open spaces are there, fact is something real, not something you make up from maybe videos you have seen of a game

I never sid it is a open world game, you make things up

I only said the walkable areas in its levels are open and huge in some chapters, like the farm one, what i say is precise and there is no room for your misinterpretations, sorry

AW sometimes looks as good if not better than U2...but those are just moments..unfortunly 80% of the game you spend in night scenery which isnt as impressive as the same locations during sunsets. Thats my my vote goes for Uncharted 2...its better overall looking game.Magik85

Bu-but teh forests!

Bu-but teh forests!

GreySeal9

Yes, Crysis looks so horrible with all those forests indeed ..

/sarcasm

[QUOTE="Magik85"]AW sometimes looks as good if not better than U2...but those are just moments..unfortunly 80% of the game you spend in night scenery which isnt as impressive as the same locations during sunsets. Thats my my vote goes for Uncharted 2...its better overall looking game.GreySeal9

Bu-but teh forests!

So, Alan Wake does look better, just not everywhere

I can FULLY and 100% agree with that

lol, @ theseekar :lol:.

remember "Dynamic Lighting King"?

or "PS3 cheats to get good graphics!"?

Compared to UC2, Alan Wake is an open world game. ;)

alan wake didnt even beat gears2/re5 in graphics..... u2 is the best looking game on consoles,try it and you will see why,comparing alan wake to u2 only makes alan wake look bad.

Compared to UC2, Alan Wake is an open world game. ;)

xhawk27

Indeed, that is all i am saying too, not that AW is Oblvion like or anything, as some try to suggest

lol, @ theseekar :lol:.

remember "Dynamic Lighting King"?

or "PS3 cheats to get good graphics!"?

SoRawr2

This dude is a gold-mine I hope he never gets banned.........again

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="theseekar"]

It is an open world in places, i want a backed up opinion from someone that has played the game

A game can be linear and have an open world, you should play Crysis too, it is that way

And i did not read any fact, because the huge open spaces are there, fact is something real, not something you make up from maybe videos you have seen of a game

I never sid it is a open world game, you make things up

I only said the walkable areas in its levels are open and huge in some chapters, like the farm one, what i say is precise and there is no room for your misinterpretations, sorry

alan wake didnt even beat gears2/re5 in graphics..... u2 is the best looking game on consoles,try it and you will see why,comparing alan wake to u2 only makes alan wake look bad.

skanjos

Sorry, but a backed up opinion is the only thing i cancomment on

That is, you have to say why you think this is the case

Compared to UC2, Alan Wake is an open world game. ;)

xhawk27

mmm why am i not surprised that TC believes a 360 exclusive looks better than a PS3 exclusive !!???!!??? I wonder why :P

AW is surely a great looking title and hopefully getting it cause i played a bit the game at my friend's house and its great, however its not on par (visually) with U2...