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[QUOTE="xhawk27"]lol 60 dollars for 7 hours of gameplay. I'ts longer than 7hrs (especially if you collect everything).Compared to UC2, Alan Wake is an open world game. ;)
IWKYB
look i loved alan wake i have all the achievements and the CE so believe me, i know what i am talking about. the levels are very long, but not vast / openworld. there is a lot of set paths where you can deviate for a few metres on either side. then you will come to a bigger open space, which itself is closed in. grapichally at night the lighting is the best i have ever seen. the more time you spend with the game, the more things you see that could be better, alans hair, a few textures here and there. most of it is extra-ordinarily beautiful. playing RDR the other night i rode my horse under a streetlamp in an effort to regain health. that is how much of AW i have played LOL. i look forward to the DLC, because the story is brilliant. however i do i think that RDR on 360 beats it for looks though.sts106mat
The farm level is huge though, and you can actualy drive around in a huge space, this is not just a few meters deviation at all
Same goes for some other areas, i know there are not many, but they are there and are vast
There is a huge day time road way in a whole mountain side if you recall and the place is just infinite with huge deviation too
[QUOTE="sts106mat"]look i loved alan wake i have all the achievements and the CE so believe me, i know what i am talking about. the levels are very long, but not vast / openworld. there is a lot of set paths where you can deviate for a few metres on either side. then you will come to a bigger open space, which itself is closed in. grapichally at night the lighting is the best i have ever seen. the more time you spend with the game, the more things you see that could be better, alans hair, a few textures here and there. most of it is extra-ordinarily beautiful. playing RDR the other night i rode my horse under a streetlamp in an effort to regain health. that is how much of AW i have played LOL. i look forward to the DLC, because the story is brilliant. however i do i think that RDR on 360 beats it for looks though.theseekar
The farm level is huge though, and you can actualy drive around in a huge space, this is not just a few meters deviation at all
Same goes for some other areas, i know there are not many, but they are there and are vast
remember that snow level in MW2? that was so vast and had huge open space for miles, too bad I couldn't walk on itlol 60 dollars for 7 hours of gameplay.[QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="xhawk27"]
Compared to UC2, Alan Wake is an open world game. ;)
xhawk27
Alan wake is long than that or are you talking about UC2.
I finished Uncharted 2 in 8 hours, Uncharted 1 in 7
Alan Wake took me 15 hours on easy, and that without gathering all story important pages
I plan to replay it for that, so would be like 30+ hours long to see everything
AW does not have vast open areas, completely linear closed in areas like U2. You must have seen the PC footage from like 5 years ago[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="theseekar"]
Well, when you play Alan Wake, and get to explore whole mountain sides and rolling hills, then you will know it is 100x bigger i walkable area than Uncharted 2 in its levels
theseekar
Have you actually played the game ? Any comments on the farm size near the end ? Because i was driving a car around whole mountains and hills to find the next objctive there
How come you "missed" that spot ? And is not the only one
There is nothign like that in Uncarted 2, sorry
Yeah I remember driving the car down a specific road with nothing to explore around me. And when I tried to explore around me, those parts were magically locked off. Game looks great, but you are really over exaggerating the scale.
lol 60 dollars for 7 hours of gameplay. I'ts longer than 7hrs (especially if you collect everything).[QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="xhawk27"]
Compared to UC2, Alan Wake is an open world game. ;)
jasonharris48
True.. also there is nothing wrong paying $60 for a 7 hr game... I still dont regret getting games such as GOW3, Heavenly Sword, R&C, Uncharted1 etc etc even though they didnt offer mp and were relatively short, i had so much fun and went through each games' campaign a few times..
Personally i'd rather pay $60 for a great SP only game, than $60 for an average title with added 'average' mp :)
[QUOTE="theseekar"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]look i loved alan wake i have all the achievements and the CE so believe me, i know what i am talking about. the levels are very long, but not vast / openworld. there is a lot of set paths where you can deviate for a few metres on either side. then you will come to a bigger open space, which itself is closed in. grapichally at night the lighting is the best i have ever seen. the more time you spend with the game, the more things you see that could be better, alans hair, a few textures here and there. most of it is extra-ordinarily beautiful. playing RDR the other night i rode my horse under a streetlamp in an effort to regain health. that is how much of AW i have played LOL. i look forward to the DLC, because the story is brilliant. however i do i think that RDR on 360 beats it for looks though.KevinButlerVP
The farm level is huge though, and you can actualy drive around in a huge space, this is not just a few meters deviation at all
Same goes for some other areas, i know there are not many, but they are there and are vast
remember that snow level in MW2? that was so vast and had huge open space for miles, too bad I couldn't walk on itI have fun reading your comments
But i now know you have not played the game, so you have no idea how big spaces Alan Wake has in some spots lkie the farm and roads
Good luck with your future posts, it is not like they mean anything to me thati have actually played the game
[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="theseekar"]
The farm level is huge though, and you can actualy drive around in a huge space, this is not just a few meters deviation at all
Same goes for some other areas, i know there are not many, but they are there and are vast
remember that snow level in MW2? that was so vast and had huge open space for miles, too bad I couldn't walk on itI have fun reading your comments ?
But i now know you have not played the game, so you have no idea how big spaces Alan Wake has in some spots lie the farm and roads
Good luck with your future posts
I have, no comment on how you cant walk on that vast open world?[QUOTE="xhawk27"]
[QUOTE="IWKYB"] lol 60 dollars for 7 hours of gameplay.theseekar
Alan wake is long than that or are you talking about UC2.
I finished Uncharted 2 in 8 hours, Uncharted 1 in 7
Alan Wake took me 15 hours on easy, and that without gathering all story important pages
I plan to replay it for that, so would be like 30+ hours long to see everything
I don't recall Alan Wake having an easy mode. (BTW what's your PSN ID I really doubt you played U1 or U2.)[QUOTE="theseekar"]
[QUOTE="xhawk27"]
Alan wake is long than that or are you talking about UC2.
jasonharris48
I finished Uncharted 2 in 8 hours, Uncharted 1 in 7
Alan Wake took me 15 hours on easy, and that without gathering all story important pages
I plan to replay it for that, so would be like 30+ hours long to see everything
I don't recall Alan Wake having an easy mode. (BTW what's your PSN ID I really doubt you played U1 or U2.)The normal mode then, whatever was lowest anyway, i dont remember how it was called
There is definatly a harder mode though you need to play to unlock the full story
[QUOTE="theseekar"]
[QUOTE="xhawk27"]
Alan wake is long than that or are you talking about UC2.
jasonharris48
I finished Uncharted 2 in 8 hours, Uncharted 1 in 7
Alan Wake took me 15 hours on easy, and that without gathering all story important pages
I plan to replay it for that, so would be like 30+ hours long to see everything
I don't recall Alan Wake having an easy mode. (BTW what's your PSN ID I really doubt you played U1 or U2.)Only normal and hard, and nightmare which is locked. And playing on hard did not take me 15 hours and I only missed 5-6 manuscript pages.
I don't recall Alan Wake having an easy mode. (BTW what's your PSN ID I really doubt you played U1 or U2.)[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]
[QUOTE="theseekar"]
I finished Uncharted 2 in 8 hours, Uncharted 1 in 7
Alan Wake took me 15 hours on easy, and that without gathering all story important pages
I plan to replay it for that, so would be like 30+ hours long to see everything
Kahuna_1
Only normal and hard. And playing on hard did not take me 15 hours and I only missed 5-6 manuscript pages.
How long did it take you? And not all players rush through games, like the guy that ended Oblivion in a few hours
Lol. It looks nice especially with the flash lights in dark but not among top gfx games. There are many games have far superior gfx than Alan Wake
ildvm
Which and why ?
I have already proven Alan Wake looks better than Uncharted 2 in scale, foliage and lighting, can you prove what you say ?
I don't recall Alan Wake having an easy mode. (BTW what's your PSN ID I really doubt you played U1 or U2.)[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]
[QUOTE="theseekar"]
I finished Uncharted 2 in 8 hours, Uncharted 1 in 7
Alan Wake took me 15 hours on easy, and that without gathering all story important pages
I plan to replay it for that, so would be like 30+ hours long to see everything
Kahuna_1
Only normal and hard, and nightmare which is locked. And playing on hard did not take me 15 hours and I only missed 5-6 manuscript pages.
Yea I doubt it takes 15 hrs. I'm at episode 4 ATM (found 35 pages, Thermos) and I'm playing on hard. I also search everywhere to make sure I do not miss anything.I don't recall Alan Wake having an easy mode. (BTW what's your PSN ID I really doubt you played U1 or U2.)[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]
[QUOTE="theseekar"]
I finished Uncharted 2 in 8 hours, Uncharted 1 in 7
Alan Wake took me 15 hours on easy, and that without gathering all story important pages
I plan to replay it for that, so would be like 30+ hours long to see everything
theseekar
The normal mode then, whatever was lowest anyway, i dont remember how it was called
There is definatly a harder mode though you need to play to unlock the full story
There was another part of that post...y'know the one in which he asked about your PSN ID.
I don't recall Alan Wake having an easy mode. (BTW what's your PSN ID I really doubt you played U1 or U2.)[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]
[QUOTE="theseekar"]
I finished Uncharted 2 in 8 hours, Uncharted 1 in 7
Alan Wake took me 15 hours on easy, and that without gathering all story important pages
I plan to replay it for that, so would be like 30+ hours long to see everything
theseekar
The normal mode then, whatever was lowest anyway, i dont remember how it was called
There is definatly a harder mode though you need to play to unlock the full story
I would like to know you gamer tag and PSN ID. I'm really starting to doubt you played AW, U1, and U2.[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]
[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] I don't recall Alan Wake having an easy mode. (BTW what's your PSN ID I really doubt you played U1 or U2.)
theseekar
Only normal and hard. And playing on hard did not take me 15 hours and I only missed 5-6 manuscript pages.
How long did it take you? And not all players rush through games, like the guy that ended Oblivion in a few hours
I most definitely did not rush. Took my time and tried to find manuscript pages. Beat the game in 4 sitdowns in about 12 hours if I had to guess because I only play for 3 hours at most for any game that isnt an rpg. Game does not measure your playing time though(unless I missed it?). I enjoyed it a lot though, fun game.
i would say totally finished with the game no more than 20 hours. the farm level is large, but you start of on a road which is single track, there is a large open fielded area and a path to the north. its not really massive, the MW2 analogy is a good one, its of a similar size to that level actually. the game does a good job of the scale, but i think you are actually more hemmed in then you realisests106mat
But i am only comparing it to Uncharted 2, that has no scale at all in walkable areas, that is all
I never said Alan Wake is the biggest scale game, just that comparing to U2, its places are vastly more open and big
[QUOTE="sts106mat"]i would say totally finished with the game no more than 20 hours. the farm level is large, but you start of on a road which is single track, there is a large open fielded area and a path to the north. its not really massive, the MW2 analogy is a good one, its of a similar size to that level actually. the game does a good job of the scale, but i think you are actually more hemmed in then you realisetheseekar
But i am only comparing it to Uncharted 2, that has no scale at all in walkable areas, that is all
I never said Alan Wake is the biggest scale game, just that comparing to U2, its places are vastly more open and big
More like some spacious linear paths. That is how I think of it anyway.
That would imply it's superior :?[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="nhh18"]
Alan Wake is to uncharted 2 among thieves graphically as half life 2 is to halo 2.
theseekar
Of course it is superior, it uses next gen lighting foliage and scale, unlike U2
If you have poor eye sight and bad judgement sure Alan Wake is visually superior.[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="nhh18"]
Alan Wake is to uncharted 2 among thieves graphically as half life 2 is to halo 2.
That would imply it's superior :?Of course it is superior, it uses next gen lighting foliage and scale, unlike U2
how can a SD game look better than a native 720p game? critically aclaimed btw with tons of awards for graphics and other things[QUOTE="ildvm"]
Lol. It looks nice especially with the flash lights in dark but not among top gfx games. There are many games have far superior gfx than Alan Wake
theseekar
Which and why ?
I have already proven Alan Wake looks better than Uncharted 2 in scale, foliage and lighting, can you prove what you say ?
Like I said before both games offer a false sense of huge scale levels (both games are linear). U2 beats Alan Wake in physics, character models and animation, while on the other hand Alan Wake beats U2 in lighting, atmosphere, soundtrack, concept and story. BTW I'm still waiting for that gamer tag and PSN ID.[QUOTE="theseekar"]
[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]
Only normal and hard. And playing on hard did not take me 15 hours and I only missed 5-6 manuscript pages.
Kahuna_1
How long did it take you? And not all players rush through games, like the guy that ended Oblivion in a few hours
I most definitely did not rush. Took my time and tried to find manuscript pages. Beat the game in 4 sitdowns in about 12 hours if I had to guess because I only play for 3 hours at most for any game that isnt an rpg. Game does not measure your playing time though(unless I missed it?). I enjoyed it a lot though, fun game.
Ok, i guess 12 hours isa possible time, i take my time when a game looks so amazing, that is all, so i guess those extra 3 hours could be me going to higer place and watch the vistas in any spots :)
I also watched all TV shows, and many radio broadcasts, which hugly added to the game atmosphere
[QUOTE="nhh18"]That would imply it's superior :?It is superior. 10000 trees, dynamic water effects better than bioshock, it also on superior gpu, and more cinematic due to sub hd and screen tearing all the time. Gives you a film like experience.lAlan Wake is to uncharted 2 among thieves graphically as half life 2 is to halo 2.
jg4xchamp
[QUOTE="ildvm"]
Lol. It looks nice especially with the flash lights in dark but not among top gfx games. There are many games have far superior gfx than Alan Wake
theseekar
Which and why ?
I have already proven Alan Wake looks better than Uncharted 2 in scale, foliage and lighting, can you prove what you say ?
Alan wake himself is ugly, poor animations, low res. Everything looks flat
It has nice lightining in the nigt and environments are good just that but far from best.
That would imply it's superior :?It is superior. 10000 trees, dynamic water effects better than bioshock, it also on superior gpu, and more cinematic due to sub hd and screen tearing all the time. Gives you a film like experience.l[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="nhh18"]
Alan Wake is to uncharted 2 among thieves graphically as half life 2 is to halo 2.
nhh18
Ys, you also forgotit uses 100x bigger scale, better lighting and foliage than U2
[QUOTE="theseekar"]
[QUOTE="ildvm"]
Lol. It looks nice especially with the flash lights in dark but not among top gfx games. There are many games have far superior gfx than Alan Wake
jasonharris48
Which and why ?
I have already proven Alan Wake looks better than Uncharted 2 in scale, foliage and lighting, can you prove what you say ?
Like I said before both games offer a false sense of huge scale levels (both games are linear). U2 beats Alan Wake in physics, character models and animation, while on the other hand Alan Wake beats U2 in lighting, atmosphere, soundtrack, concept and story. BTW I'm still waiting for that gamer tag and PSN ID. you can be a linear game and have a huge scale to be honest. Scale just be vast open areas, and great draw distances etc. God of War 3 while linear, and confined has an impressive scale to say the least. There not sandbox tier in the scale department, but for linear games I'd say it's fair game to something has a nice scale or even huge at times.[QUOTE="Nisim19"]I say tachncly AW is better but visualy U2 looks better jg4xchampmore detail, better animations, pretty good draw distance, good lighting, great art work overall, superior character models, etc. Does Alan Wake look good? yes. Better than Uncharted 2? Uncharted 2 makes a legit case for graphics princess(King and Queen would be the Crysis games).
If you are comparing Uncharted 2 to PC games then it is not even among the noble lineage.
Heck even Gears of War on the PC looks better than any console game.
[QUOTE="theseekar"]
[QUOTE="ildvm"]
Lol. It looks nice especially with the flash lights in dark but not among top gfx games. There are many games have far superior gfx than Alan Wake
ildvm
Which and why ?
I have already proven Alan Wake looks better than Uncharted 2 in scale, foliage and lighting, can you prove what you say ?
Alan wake himself is ugly, poor animations, low res. Everything looks flat
It has nice lightining in the nigt and environments are good just that but far from best.
I agree, in some things Alan Wake is worst, in some is better
In the end is all about what you consider more important, crisper textures/resolutionand better charatcer models or next gen lighting, foliage in huge scale ?
I will go with the latter 99% of the time, next gen effects and huge cites/forests impress me more than crisper last gen looking and tiny places, even if te hero looks better
It is superior. 10000 trees, dynamic water effects better than bioshock, it also on superior gpu, and more cinematic due to sub hd and screen tearing all the time. Gives you a film like experience.l[QUOTE="nhh18"]
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] That would imply it's superior :?theseekar
Ys, you also forgotit uses 100x bigger scale, better lighting and foliage than U2
Haha, I like when you say 100x bigger scale. Reminds me of when you used to talk about Fable 2.
[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]Like I said before both games offer a false sense of huge scale levels (both games are linear). U2 beats Alan Wake in physics, character models and animation, while on the other hand Alan Wake beats U2 in lighting, atmosphere, soundtrack, concept and story. BTW I'm still waiting for that gamer tag and PSN ID. you can be a linear game and have a huge scale to be honest. Scale just be vast open areas, and great draw distances etc. God of War 3 while linear, and confined has an impressive scale to say the least. There not sandbox tier in the scale department, but for linear games I'd say it's fair game to something has a nice scale or even huge at times. I know that, I'm just getting tired of the TC trying make it seem like AW has these huge open levels. (BTW TC still waiting on that PSN ID and gamer tag)[QUOTE="theseekar"]
Which and why ?
I have already proven Alan Wake looks better than Uncharted 2 in scale, foliage and lighting, can you prove what you say ?
jg4xchamp
[QUOTE="Hakkai007"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] more detail, better animations, pretty good draw distance, good lighting, great art work overall, superior character models, etc. Does Alan Wake look good? yes. Better than Uncharted 2? Uncharted 2 makes a legit case for graphics princess(King and Queen would be the Crysis games). sts106mat
If you are comparing Uncharted 2 to PC games then it is not even among the noble lineage.
Heck even Gears of War on the PC looks better than any console game.
GEoW2 on 360 is underrated graphically IMO. it is super stunning in places. look forward to no 3Gears of war 2 has fantastic art design (especially background art which is unbelievable). Batman Arkham Asylum, Final Fantasy 13, among other games look flat out better technically and artisticlaly. Game technology evolves significantly. Most AAA blockbuster games (god of war 3, final fantasy 13, halo reach, etc) are going to be the best looking games when they come out. People believing that alan wake is near this category is silly.you can be a linear game and have a huge scale to be honest. Scale just be vast open areas, and great draw distances etc. God of War 3 while linear, and confined has an impressive scale to say the least. There not sandbox tier in the scale department, but for linear games I'd say it's fair game to something has a nice scale or even huge at times. I know that, I'm just getting tired of the TC trying make it seem like AW has these huge open levels. (BTW TC still waiting on that PSN ID and gamer tag)[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] Like I said before both games offer a false sense of huge scale levels (both games are linear). U2 beats Alan Wake in physics, character models and animation, while on the other hand Alan Wake beats U2 in lighting, atmosphere, soundtrack, concept and story. BTW I'm still waiting for that gamer tag and PSN ID.
jasonharris48
well, when you play th game and reach the farm or some huge open mounatain side roadsway, you wil l know just how huge and open places AW has
Until you do play the game, well, good luck with watching videos and making false assumptions by that
[QUOTE="theseekar"]
[QUOTE="nhh18"]It is superior. 10000 trees, dynamic water effects better than bioshock, it also on superior gpu, and more cinematic due to sub hd and screen tearing all the time. Gives you a film like experience.l
Ys, you also forgotit uses 100x bigger scale, better lighting and foliage than U2
Haha, I like when you say 100x bigger scale. Reminds me of when you used to talk about Fable 2.
now that I think about it, isn't Demon's Souls like way bigger than AW and like 40 hours long. A lot less linear tooPlease Log In to post.
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