Alan Wake looks better than Unchrted 2 or not ?

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#151 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] Like I said before both games offer a false sense of huge scale levels (both games are linear). U2 beats Alan Wake in physics, character models and animation, while on the other hand Alan Wake beats U2 in lighting, atmosphere, soundtrack, concept and story. BTW I'm still waiting for that gamer tag and PSN ID.

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you can be a linear game and have a huge scale to be honest. Scale just be vast open areas, and great draw distances etc. God of War 3 while linear, and confined has an impressive scale to say the least. There not sandbox tier in the scale department, but for linear games I'd say it's fair game to something has a nice scale or even huge at times.

I know that, I'm just getting tired of the TC trying make it seem like AW has these huge open levels. (BTW TC still waiting on that PSN ID and gamer tag)

:) hehe

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#152 theseekar
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

Ys, you also forgotit uses 100x bigger scale, better lighting and foliage than U2

KevinButlerVP

Haha, I like when you say 100x bigger scale. Reminds me of when you used to talk about Fable 2.

now that I think about it, isn't Demon's Souls like way bigger than AW and like 40 hours long. A lot less linear too

Yes, at last, something that is 100% correct

Visually though Demon Soul is sub par, artistically great though

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#153 nhh18
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I don't understand how anyone doesn't get that theseekar is just joking around.

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#154 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] Like I said before both games offer a false sense of huge scale levels (both games are linear). U2 beats Alan Wake in physics, character models and animation, while on the other hand Alan Wake beats U2 in lighting, atmosphere, soundtrack, concept and story. BTW I'm still waiting for that gamer tag and PSN ID.

jasonharris48

you can be a linear game and have a huge scale to be honest. Scale just be vast open areas, and great draw distances etc. God of War 3 while linear, and confined has an impressive scale to say the least. There not sandbox tier in the scale department, but for linear games I'd say it's fair game to something has a nice scale or even huge at times.

I know that, I'm just getting tired of the TC trying make it seem like AW has these huge open levels. (BTW TC still waiting on that PSN ID and gamer tag)

I stopped taking the thread and TC seriously at the title of the thread. and I got money on Debra dying on Dexter before he ever coughs up a PSN ID in this thread..
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#155 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] you can be a linear game and have a huge scale to be honest. Scale just be vast open areas, and great draw distances etc. God of War 3 while linear, and confined has an impressive scale to say the least. There not sandbox tier in the scale department, but for linear games I'd say it's fair game to something has a nice scale or even huge at times. theseekar

I know that, I'm just getting tired of the TC trying make it seem like AW has these huge open levels. (BTW TC still waiting on that PSN ID and gamer tag)

well, when you play th game and reach the farm or some huge open mounatain side roadsway, you wil l know just how huge and open places AW has

Until you do play the game, well, good luck with watching videos and making false assumptions by that

I've played the game lol (like I said before I'm in episode 4 ATM). Hell it's in my sig (since you are a GS user I know you can see my gamer tag) but if you can't my gamer tag is Pietro1212. Now I'm still waiting for your gamer tag and PSN ID.

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#156 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] you can be a linear game and have a huge scale to be honest. Scale just be vast open areas, and great draw distances etc. God of War 3 while linear, and confined has an impressive scale to say the least. There not sandbox tier in the scale department, but for linear games I'd say it's fair game to something has a nice scale or even huge at times. theseekar

I know that, I'm just getting tired of the TC trying make it seem like AW has these huge open levels. (BTW TC still waiting on that PSN ID and gamer tag)

well, when you play th game and reach the farm or some huge open mounatain side roadsway, you wil l know just how huge and open places AW has

Until you do play the game, well, good luck with watching videos and making false assumptions by that

Didn't he say he played the game? You've got a lot of bravado for someone who keeps ignoring ID requests.

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#158 nhh18
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[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] I know that, I'm just getting tired of the TC trying make it seem like AW has these huge open levels. (BTW TC still waiting on that PSN ID and gamer tag)

GreySeal9

well, when you play th game and reach the farm or some huge open mounatain side roadsway, you wil l know just how huge and open places AW has

Until you do play the game, well, good luck with watching videos and making false assumptions by that

Didn't he say he played the game? You've got a lot of bravado for someone who keeps ignoring ID requests.

Why would you message him id requests?

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#159 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] you can be a linear game and have a huge scale to be honest. Scale just be vast open areas, and great draw distances etc. God of War 3 while linear, and confined has an impressive scale to say the least. There not sandbox tier in the scale department, but for linear games I'd say it's fair game to something has a nice scale or even huge at times. jg4xchamp

I know that, I'm just getting tired of the TC trying make it seem like AW has these huge open levels. (BTW TC still waiting on that PSN ID and gamer tag)

I stopped taking the thread and TC seriously at the title of the thread. and I got money on Debra dying on Dexter before he ever coughs up a PSN ID in this thread..

LOL theres no point in taking in on that bet. I know he won't present his GT and PSN ID

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#160 Kahuna_1
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Even though this is off-topic, [spoiler] That tornado was such a letdown. All the hype I kept hearing about a torando and it was a dud. What a joke and a complete letdown. I was getting ready to have to run or chase the thing, but no...I had ovens and sign posts flying at me... [/spoiler]

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#161 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

well, when you play th game and reach the farm or some huge open mounatain side roadsway, you wil l know just how huge and open places AW has

Until you do play the game, well, good luck with watching videos and making false assumptions by that

nhh18

Didn't he say he played the game? You've got a lot of bravado for someone who keeps ignoring ID requests.

Why would you message him id requests?

People have requested his PSN ID in this thread. I didn't message him any ID requests.

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#162 theseekar
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yeah i am done in this thread for now. alan wake has huge vistas (if you like) but its not massively open at all like theseekar says. plus where is his GT / PSN ID?sts106mat

It definatly is massively open comparing to Unchard 2, i never said it is bigger than Oblivion or anything, why are you making up things ?

Also why on earth is everyone supposed to have cosoles connected to the internet ? I never played online and never will, i did not play online with my PS1-PS2-N64-GC-Xbox 1 etc, so why would i start now ?

You mean every gamer on the planet plays online ?

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#163 jasonharris48
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I'm done good people of system wars. I can't find the TC funny anymore. So goodnight (well good morning to some)

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#164 nhh18
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Even though this is off-topic, That tornado was such a letdown. All the hype I kept hearing about a torando and it was a dud. What a joke and a complete letdown. I was getting ready to have to run or chase the thing, but no...I had ovens and sign posts flying at me...

Kahuna_1

What type of comment is this. Did you want the tornado to like destroy the town kill a bunch of people. I don't know if you are serious or not though.

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#165 theseekar
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[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] I know that, I'm just getting tired of the TC trying make it seem like AW has these huge open levels. (BTW TC still waiting on that PSN ID and gamer tag)

GreySeal9

well, when you play th game and reach the farm or some huge open mounatain side roadsway, you wil l know just how huge and open places AW has

Until you do play the game, well, good luck with watching videos and making false assumptions by that

Didn't he say he played the game? You've got a lot of bravado for someone who keeps ignoring ID requests.

What is an "ID request" ?

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#166 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

well, when you play th game and reach the farm or some huge open mounatain side roadsway, you wil l know just how huge and open places AW has

Until you do play the game, well, good luck with watching videos and making false assumptions by that

theseekar

Didn't he say he played the game? You've got a lot of bravado for someone who keeps ignoring ID requests.

What is an "ID request" ?

PSN ID request.

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[QUOTE="sts106mat"]yeah i am done in this thread for now. alan wake has huge vistas (if you like) but its not massively open at all like theseekar says. plus where is his GT / PSN ID?theseekar

It definatly is massively open comparing to Unchard 2, i never said it is bigger than Oblivion or anything, why are you making up things ?

Also why on earth is everyone supposed to have cosoles connected to the internet ? I never played online and never will, i did not play online with my PS1-PS2-N64-GC-Xbox 1 etc, so why would i start now ?

You mean every gamer on the planet plays online ?

If you own a PS3 and 360 you know you must get system and title updates (in those cases you must connect online). You have a GT or ID to do so. (BTW PSX and N65 didn't connect online lol)

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#168 jg4xchamp
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dude he had a spoiler warning for a reason :|
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#169 theseekar
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[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Didn't he say he played the game? You've got a lot of bravado for someone who keeps ignoring ID requests.

GreySeal9

What is an "ID request" ?

PSN ID request.

Wouldnt i have to connect PS3 to the net to have one first ?

I never connect online or play that way, i have no spare time to waste for something like that

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#170 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"]yeah i am done in this thread for now. alan wake has huge vistas (if you like) but its not massively open at all like theseekar says. plus where is his GT / PSN ID?theseekar

It definatly is massively open comparing to Unchard 2, i never said it is bigger than Oblivion or anything, why are you making up things ?

Also why on earth is everyone supposed to have cosoles connected to the internet ? I never played online and never will, i did not play online with my PS1-PS2-N64-GC-Xbox 1 etc, so why would i start now ?

You mean every gamer on the planet plays online ?

I don't get why you didn't just say that in the first place.

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#171 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

well, when you play th game and reach the farm or some huge open mounatain side roadsway, you wil l know just how huge and open places AW has

Until you do play the game, well, good luck with watching videos and making false assumptions by that

theseekar

Didn't he say he played the game? You've got a lot of bravado for someone who keeps ignoring ID requests.

What is an "ID request" ?

PSN ID. You know the same ID as well as gamer tag I've been asking you for since the first page of the topic.

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#172 Kahuna_1
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

nhh18

What type of comment is this. Did you want the tornado to like destroy the town kill a bunch of people.

Yeah...it wasnt even a tornado, just some darkness hurling objects at me. I was disappointed.

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#174 theseekar
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[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]yeah i am done in this thread for now. alan wake has huge vistas (if you like) but its not massively open at all like theseekar says. plus where is his GT / PSN ID?jasonharris48

It definatly is massively open comparing to Unchard 2, i never said it is bigger than Oblivion or anything, why are you making up things ?

Also why on earth is everyone supposed to have cosoles connected to the internet ? I never played online and never will, i did not play online with my PS1-PS2-N64-GC-Xbox 1 etc, so why would i start now ?

You mean every gamer on the planet plays online ?

If you own a PS3 and 360 you know you must get system and title updates (in those cases you must connect online). You have a GT or ID to do so. (BTW PSX and N65 didn't connect online lol)

My last 360 update was from Alan Wake disk, and PS3 from FF13 disk

I never connect online, or care for updates at all

Well, i liked it when i could install 360 games though, but that was the only time i cared for those updates

Cnsidering i never play online, it is not that strange

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#175 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

Even though this is off-topic, That tornado was such a letdown. All the hype I kept hearing about a torando and it was a dud. What a joke and a complete letdown. I was getting ready to have to run or chase the thing, but no...I had ovens and sign posts flying at me...

Kahuna_1

What type of comment is this. Did you want the tornado to like destroy the town kill a bunch of people.

Yeah...it wasnt even a tornado, just some darkness hurling objects at me. I was disappointed.

Oh this is about alan wake. Totally thought this was real life. I am dumb.

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Not really. While Alan Wake has some very beautiful scenery and lighting, up close the textures and facial animation look average at best. It's not the best looking game, but it's not as ugly or as linear as most trolls are making it out to be. It was fun driving in open areas and being able to get out of your car and explore anytime you want.

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#177 theseekar
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[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]yeah i am done in this thread for now. alan wake has huge vistas (if you like) but its not massively open at all like theseekar says. plus where is his GT / PSN ID?sts106mat

It definatly is massively open comparing to Unchard 2, i never said it is bigger than Oblivion or anything, why are you making up things ?

Also why on earth is everyone supposed to have cosoles connected to the internet ? I never played online and never will, i did not play online with my PS1-PS2-N64-GC-Xbox 1 etc, so why would i start now ?

You mean every gamer on the planet plays online ?

i am not making stuff up. you said (and i quote) - "huge scale, some levels are totally open and vast huge scale", yes, the levels are very long, but are mainly paths, with cliffs &drops preventing exploration. ever notice the number of roads blocked by trucks or wagons. the draw distances and vistas are amazing, but its not "totally open" as you said. there are paths, and blockages fences / cliffs nearly all the time. its one plus point over many games of its kind is that 90% of it takes place outdoors - huge actual forests, with thick foliage and amazing detailall around you,you can even get lost in them i disagree, you cant get lost in the forest, you have a map pointer constantly telling you the way that is all

If i recall, both in some roads and in the farm there was nothing blocking you, you could move in some huge open spaces, not Obnlivion huge, but far more huge than anything i have seen in U2

Ok, so, how would you compare U2 walkable /explorable areas to Alan Wake ones ? I mean the biggest of both of course

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#178 theseekar
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Not really. While Alan Wake has some very beautiful scenery and lighting, up close the textures and facial animation look average at best. It's not the best looking game, but it's not as ugly or as linear as most trolls are making it out to be. It was fun driving in open areas and being able to get out of your car and explore anytime you want.

SpinoRaptor24

Well, at last an educated real opinion

Of course as i said AW is not best, but my point was that it is best in some areas that i value more, so best for me

Also that Ucnharted 2 can never be called best, because i s no better in all areas than AW

Simple stuff really

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#179 johny300
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uncharted 2 is a 20 hours of gameplay for 60$ and alan wake is a 7 hours gameplay for 60$. and U2 has better visuales and more detailed than alan wake and alan wake has bad lip sync and uncharted has the best lip synq in video games(see the cutscenes) and uncharted 2 has been in the making for 2 years and alan wake is 5 and half years. and has the score of 9.5 at gamespot and 96 on metacritic and for alan wake 8.5 on gamespot and metacritic ?. and U2 has replay value.
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#181 PAL360
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

Not really. While Alan Wake has some very beautiful scenery and lighting, up close the textures and facial animation look average at best. It's not the best looking game, but it's not as ugly or as linear as most trolls are making it out to be. It was fun driving in open areas and being able to get out of your car and explore anytime you want.

theseekar

Well, at last an educated real opinion

Of course as i said AW is not best, but my point was that it is best in some areas that i value more, so best for me

Also that Ucnharted 2 can never be called best, because i s no better in all areas than AW

Simple stuff really

A game doesnt have to be the best in all areas to be considered the graphics king. Overall, Red Dead Redemption is the best looking game i have ever seen on a console and im sure it doesnt have the best lightning, shadows, textures, etc...

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#182 theseekar
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A game doesnt have to be the best in all areas to be considered the graphics king. Overall, Red Dead Redemption is the best looking game i have ever seen on a console and im sure it doesnt have the best lightning, shadows, textures, etc...PAL360

Then it is not graphics king, is just an opinion

Check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlH1yvVMYMg&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj1CB-1ZYPw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFxpHvlPi1g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAc9WsGstUc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGubLxgL1Ec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp0-5rE4JqY&feature=related

That is graphics king, in my opinion

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#183 nhh18
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGubLxgL1Ec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe-zBdCxd_o

which looks better.

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#184 tmntPunchout
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Theres a lot more snow particles and more trains in UC2 so it looks wayyy better. pants can get wet too and people have color. half the people in aw u can only see their shadows its so dumb.

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#185 theseekar
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGubLxgL1Ec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe-zBdCxd_o

which looks better.

nhh18

That looks 1000x better than both (after 1:30 minute)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related

So, you just tried to compare a night time with day time parts of the two games? How fair is that really ? try the above video instead

Notice that foliage in Uncharte 2 train levels is terrible, the grassaround is some of the worst i have ever seen, and you are on a train all the time, you cant even move in the side of the road, it is that limited

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#186 johny300
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Uncharted 2 won so many awards at the GDC from what i heard. alan wake will have to see in the future.
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#187 theseekar
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Uncharted 2 won so many awards at the GDC from what i heard. alan wake will have to see in the future.johny300

all overhyped games win awards, even the subHD MGS4 or Halo, that means nada

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#188 BPoole96
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGubLxgL1Ec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe-zBdCxd_o

which looks better.

nhh18

The second one!

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#189 abuabed
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Alan Wake has very sweet graphical details yet Uncharted 2 tops it.
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#190 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]A game doesnt have to be the best in all areas to be considered the graphics king. Overall, Red Dead Redemption is the best looking game i have ever seen on a console and im sure it doesnt have the best lightning, shadows, textures, etc...theseekar

Then it is not graphics king, is just an opinion

Check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlH1yvVMYMg&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj1CB-1ZYPw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFxpHvlPi1g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAc9WsGstUc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGubLxgL1Ec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp0-5rE4JqY&feature=related

That is graphics king, in my opinion

Im not questioning Alan Wake graphics quality. It looks amazing but going by your logic it couldnt be considered the graphics king since the textures are far from the best.

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#191 theseekar
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGubLxgL1Ec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe-zBdCxd_o

which looks better.

BPoole96

The second one!

NO KIDDING !!! I wonder why !!!

Ok, which looks better and BIGGER ? More free too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related- (after 1:30 minute)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAM_gx5qH8g&feature=related

OR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe-zBdCxd_o

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#192 johny300
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@theseekar Thats youre opinion. in my opinion the grass ground is great and the train level were challenging and very good and fun.
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#193 tmntPunchout
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Prototype looks better than Alan Wake.

There's just so many people and infected on the screen at once. There's a lot of cars too. Racing games are the best looking games on the market and since they great graphics are based on the cars and prototype has a lot of cars, it looks better than AW.

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#194 johny300
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Uncharted 2 and mgs4 are one of the best overhyped games and mgs4 is the best in the series.
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#195 theseekar
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@theseekar Thats youre opinion. in my opinion the grass ground is great and the train level were challenging and very good and fun.johny300

Ok, and that is just your opnion

The thing ws on rails and you go so fast that youcnt realy see the quality of around things, it is low quality though, unlike Alan Wake with the vast spaces and perfect quality foliage eveywhere

The two videos i posted above absolutly edstory Uncharted 2 in so many ways, IMO of course

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#196 theseekar
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which looks better ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related- (after 1:30 minute)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAM_gx5qH8g&feature=related

OR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe-zBdCxd_o

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#197 BPoole96
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which looks better ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related- (after 1:30 minute)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAM_gx5qH8g&feature=related

OR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe-zBdCxd_o

theseekar

The grass doesn't even move when Alan walks through it. Next generation foliage my ***

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#198 tmntPunchout
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which looks better ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related- (after 1:30 minute)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAM_gx5qH8g&feature=related

OR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe-zBdCxd_o

theseekar

Which game has more snow and trains. The most important things in graphics.

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#199 SpinoRaptor24
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uncharted 2 is a 20 hours of gameplay for 60$ and alan wake is a 7 hours gameplay for 60$. and U2 has better visuales and more detailed than alan wake and alan wake has bad lip sync and uncharted has the best lip synq in video games(see the cutscenes) and uncharted 2 has been in the making for 2 years and alan wake is 5 and half years. and has the score of 9.5 at gamespot and 96 on metacritic and for alan wake 8.5 on gamespot and metacritic ?. and U2 has replay value.johny300
It's not 7 hours. It's far more than that with more reasons to play through again. And why bring up their development time? U2 was a sequel, Alan wake was a new IP. Naughty Dog a had the engine ready :?

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#200 johny300
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Prototype looks better than Alan Wake.

There's just so many people and infected on the screen at once. There's a lot of cars too. Racing games are the best looking games on the market and since they great graphics are based on the cars and prototype has a lot of cars, it looks better than AW.

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LMAO. alan wake is much better than prototype. and the zombies and people im prototype look like the same when i played the game i killed a zombie and while i was running there was a copy of him.lol