Alan Wake looks better than Unchrted 2 or not ?

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

which looks better ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related- (after 1:30 minute)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAM_gx5qH8g&feature=related

OR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe-zBdCxd_o

BPoole96

The grass doesn't even move when Alan walks through it. Next generation foliage my ***

What?

The foliage does move when Alan walks throughh it. Anyone who has played the game would have instantly noticed.

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]A game doesnt have to be the best in all areas to be considered the graphics king. Overall, Red Dead Redemption is the best looking game i have ever seen on a console and im sure it doesnt have the best lightning, shadows, textures, etc...PAL360

Then it is not graphics king, is just an opinion

Check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlH1yvVMYMg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj1CB-1ZYPw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFxpHvlPi1g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAc9WsGstUc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGubLxgL1Ec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp0-5rE4JqY&feature=related

That is graphics king, in my opinion

Im not questioning Alan Wake graphics quality. It looks amazing but going by your logic it couldnt be considered the graphics king since the textures are far from the best.

That is my point all along, none of the two can be called graphics king

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

which looks better ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related- (after 1:30 minute)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAM_gx5qH8g&feature=related

OR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe-zBdCxd_o

SpinoRaptor24

The grass doesn't even move when Alan walks through it. Next generation foliage my ***

What?

The foliage does move when Alan walks throughh it. Anyone who has played the game would have instantly noticed.

Dont bother, 99.99% of people that "comment" on Alan Wake scale and graphics have never actually played it

And if that was not enough, they did not even bother visiting youtube to see how it is first

I think Uncharted 2 looks better, but like you say its very small-scale with fake backdrops. Ninja-Hippo

Ok, my point was to prove that Uncharted 2 cant be called overall graphics king over Alan Wake, we all can have anopinion of course, that is a given

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I think Uncharted 2 looks better, but like you say its very small-scale with fake backdrops. theseekar

Ok, my point was to prove that Uncharted 2 cant be called overall graphics king over Alan Wake, we all can have anopinion of course, that is a given

This is a topic interesting by you.

[QUOTE="johny300"]uncharted 2 is a 20 hours of gameplay for 60$ and alan wake is a 7 hours gameplay for 60$. and U2 has better visuales and more detailed than alan wake and alan wake has bad lip sync and uncharted has the best lip synq in video games(see the cutscenes) and uncharted 2 has been in the making for 2 years and alan wake is 5 and half years. and has the score of 9.5 at gamespot and 96 on metacritic and for alan wake 8.5 on gamespot and metacritic ?. and U2 has replay value.SpinoRaptor24

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

which looks better ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related- (after 1:30 minute)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAM_gx5qH8g&feature=related

OR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe-zBdCxd_o

SpinoRaptor24

The grass doesn't even move when Alan walks through it. Next generation foliage my ***

What?

The foliage does move when Alan walks throughh it. Anyone who has played the game would have instantly noticed.

I'm watching the first video at 3:00 and his feet are going right through the blades of tall grass. Maybe I'm not seeing it properly because of the video quality but it doesn't look like its moving to me

Look it doesn't look better ok? I've played them both. Uncharted is the superior game with one of the best console graphics this gen. Alan Wake well is not.GeneralShowzer

Not ok, to me looks leaps and bounds better than Uncharted 2 in almost every way, bar textures

which looks better ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related- (after 1:30 minute)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAM_gx5qH8g&feature=related

OR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe-zBdCxd_o

I'm watching the first video at 3:00 and his feet are going right through the blades of tall grass. Maybe I'm not seeing it properly because of the video quality but it doesn't look like its moving to me

BPoole96

So, everyone that HAS played it confirmed it moves and you that have not played it, still insist it does not

You cant possibly get far with that

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="johny300"]uncharted 2 is a 20 hours of gameplay for 60$ and alan wake is a 7 hours gameplay for 60$. and U2 has better visuales and more detailed than alan wake and alan wake has bad lip sync and uncharted has the best lip synq in video games(see the cutscenes) and uncharted 2 has been in the making for 2 years and alan wake is 5 and half years. and has the score of 9.5 at gamespot and 96 on metacritic and for alan wake 8.5 on gamespot and metacritic ?. and U2 has replay value.johny300

...And? Did that fact hamper your experience of the game?

I've said this before, there are factors you need to consider. Remedy is a small team. Furthermore they always take years to develop their games. The end results are great games.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I think Uncharted 2 looks better, but like you say its very small-scale with fake backdrops. theseekar

Ok, my point was to prove that Uncharted 2 cant be called overall graphics king over Alan Wake, we all can have anopinion of course, that is a given

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

The grass doesn't even move when Alan walks through it. Next generation foliage my ***

BPoole96

What?

The foliage does move when Alan walks throughh it. Anyone who has played the game would have instantly noticed.

I'm watching the first video at 3:00 and his feet are going right through the blades of tall grass. Maybe I'm not seeing it properly because of the video quality but it doesn't look like its moving to me

I wouldn't really draw conclusions over some youtube videos. Shrubs and other forms of vegetation definitely do move when he walks through them. And they are affected by other factors such as weather.

Formed by my personal experience.

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I think Uncharted 2 looks better, but like you say its very small-scale with fake backdrops. johny300

Ok, my point was to prove that Uncharted 2 cant be called overall graphics king over Alan Wake, we all can have anopinion of course, that is a given

I dont like shooters much, so i got bored of it really fast, especially because is linear and limited, and never cared for the story or like the art in it

Gears is definatly not graphics king either, there is no graphics king on consoles, simply because you alwys have to sacrifice something, like scale or texture quality or whatever

Only Crysis mods on a super unbelievable PC can be called king, and be the truth

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I'm watching the first video at 3:00 and his feet are going right through the blades of tall grass. Maybe I'm not seeing it properly because of the video quality but it doesn't look like its moving to me

theseekar

So, everyone that HAS played it confirmed it moves and you that have not played it, still insist it does not

You cant possibly get far with that

The little bush things move when he walks by, the tall grass doesn't. Did you watch the video and see the tall grass being flattened or moved or were his feet moving directly through them?

And if you want to go with that logic. Everybody who has played Uncharted 2 says it looks better than Alan Wake, so you can't possibly get far with that either

[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"] It's not 7 hours. It's far more than that with more reasons to play through again. And why bring up their development time? U2 was a sequel, Alan wake was a new IP. Naughty Dog a had the engine ready :?

SpinoRaptor24

...And? Did that fact hamper your experience of the game?

I've said this before, there are factors you need to consider. Remedy is a small team. Furthermore they always take years to develop their games. The end results are great games.

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I'm watching the first video at 3:00 and his feet are going right through the blades of tall grass. Maybe I'm not seeing it properly because of the video quality but it doesn't look like its moving to me

BPoole96

So, everyone that HAS played it confirmed it moves and you that have not played it, still insist it does not

You cant possibly get far with that

The little bush things move when he walks by, the tall grass doesn't. Did you watch the video and see the tall grass being flattened or moved or were his feet moving directly through them?

And if you want to go with that logic. Everybody who has played Uncharted 2 says it looks better than Alan Wake, so you can't possibly get far with that either

So, now they move ? But dont move enough ? Why not bothered that Uncharted 2 has one grass blade per mile, if you can ever see it up close that is ?

Well, maybe you should comment on the footprints on the ground too, i dont think they are next gen enough, they only represent 10% of the actual shoe print, which brings Alan Wake to pac man graphics level i suppose

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

What?

The foliage does move when Alan walks throughh it. Anyone who has played the game would have instantly noticed.

SpinoRaptor24

I'm watching the first video at 3:00 and his feet are going right through the blades of tall grass. Maybe I'm not seeing it properly because of the video quality but it doesn't look like its moving to me

I wouldn't really draw conclusions over some youtube videos. Shrubs and other forms of vegetation definitely do move when he walks through them. And they are affected by other factors such as weather.

Formed by my personal experience.

It's just something I noticed. I know that in no way shape or form does it make the game any better or less. It was merely an observation I made while watching the video. Some forms of vegetation do move when he walks through them, but I noticed the grass didn't. The only reason I brought it up was because the TC was making it out like it was some state of the art, never been done before (aside from Crysis) foliage model.

Fair enough.

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I'm watching the first video at 3:00 and his feet are going right through the blades of tall grass. Maybe I'm not seeing it properly because of the video quality but it doesn't look like its moving to me

BPoole96

I wouldn't really draw conclusions over some youtube videos. Shrubs and other forms of vegetation definitely do move when he walks through them. And they are affected by other factors such as weather.

Formed by my personal experience.

It's just something I noticed. I know that in no way shape or form does it make the game any better or less. It was merely an observation I made while watching the video. Some forms of vegetation do move when he walks through them, but I noticed the grass didn't. The only reason I brought it up was because the TC was making it out like it was some state of the art, never been done before (aside from Crysis) foliage model.

It is hands down the best i have seen on consoles, real forests, weather affects everything, the hero affects most of it, thick and not a grass blade or treeper mile

Maybe not a "state of the art", but incredible and far above almost NOT havingany, like Uncharted 2 in its levels

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

So, everyone that HAS played it confirmed it moves and you that have not played it, still insist it does not

You cant possibly get far with that

theseekar

The little bush things move when he walks by, the tall grass doesn't. Did you watch the video and see the tall grass being flattened or moved or were his feet moving directly through them?

And if you want to go with that logic. Everybody who has played Uncharted 2 says it looks better than Alan Wake, so you can't possibly get far with that either

So, now they move ? But dont move enough ? Why not bothered that Uncharted 2 has one grass blade per mile, if you can ever see it up close that is ?

Well, maybe you should comment on the footprints on the ground too, i dont think they are next gen enough, they only represent 10% of the actual shoe print, which brings Alan Wake to pac man graphics level i suppose

Never did I say that the bushes didn't move. I said that the grass didn't. You didn't answer my question though. Did his feet go right through it? I mean, since according to you the foliage in the game is so far beyond anything we have ever seen on consoles. I would expect next generation games to include a simple detail such as this

Uncharted 2 was in tiny corridors? Really you must have played a different version than I played. Nepal level says hihiryu3

The below videos say hi too, in a far more huge way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related- (after 1:30 minute)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAM_gx5qH8g&feature=related

So, can we see just how expansive Nepal level is ? Link ?

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

What?

The foliage does move when Alan walks throughh it. Anyone who has played the game would have instantly noticed.

SpinoRaptor24

I'm watching the first video at 3:00 and his feet are going right through the blades of tall grass. Maybe I'm not seeing it properly because of the video quality but it doesn't look like its moving to me

I wouldn't really draw conclusions over some youtube videos. Shrubs and other forms of vegetation definitely do move when he walks through them. And they are affected by other factors such as weather.

Formed by my personal experience.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

I wouldn't really draw conclusions over some youtube videos. Shrubs and other forms of vegetation definitely do move when he walks through them. And they are affected by other factors such as weather.

Formed by my personal experience.

theseekar

It's just something I noticed. I know that in no way shape or form does it make the game any better or less. It was merely an observation I made while watching the video. Some forms of vegetation do move when he walks through them, but I noticed the grass didn't. The only reason I brought it up was because the TC was making it out like it was some state of the art, never been done before (aside from Crysis) foliage model.

It is hands down the best i have seen on consoles, real forests, weather affects everything, the hero affects most of it, thick and not a grass blade or treeper mile

Maybe not a "state of the art", but incredible and far above almost NOT havingany, like Uncharted 2 in its levels

Guess what, Uncharted 2 doesn't take place in a thick American mid-west forest, so why do you keep comparing Uncharted 2's lack of thick forest to Alan Wake's?

Should I start arguing that the snow capped mountains in Nepal on Uncharted 2 blow away the snow capped mountains in Nepal on Alan Wake because Alan Wake does not have them?

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

The little bush things move when he walks by, the tall grass doesn't. Did you watch the video and see the tall grass being flattened or moved or were his feet moving directly through them?

And if you want to go with that logic. Everybody who has played Uncharted 2 says it looks better than Alan Wake, so you can't possibly get far with that either

BPoole96

So, now they move ? But dont move enough ? Why not bothered that Uncharted 2 has one grass blade per mile, if you can ever see it up close that is ?

Well, maybe you should comment on the footprints on the ground too, i dont think they are next gen enough, they only represent 10% of the actual shoe print, which brings Alan Wake to pac man graphics level i suppose

Never did I say that the bushes didn't move. I said that the grass didn't. You didn't answer my question though. Did his feet go right through it? I mean, since according to you the foliage in the game is so far beyond anything we have ever seen on consoles. I would expect next generation games to include a simple detail such as this

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

So, now they move ? But dont move enough ? Why not bothered that Uncharted 2 has one grass blade per mile, if you can ever see it up close that is ?

Well, maybe you should comment on the footprints on the ground too, i dont think they are next gen enough, they only represent 10% of the actual shoe print, which brings Alan Wake to pac man graphics level i suppose

johny300

Never did I say that the bushes didn't move. I said that the grass didn't. You didn't answer my question though. Did his feet go right through it? I mean, since according to you the foliage in the game is so far beyond anything we have ever seen on consoles. I would expect next generation games to include a simple detail such as this

I know, that game is incredible

Guess what, Uncharted 2 doesn't take place in a thick American mid-west forest, so why do you keep comparing Uncharted 2's lack of thick forest to Alan Wake's?

Should I start arguing that the snow capped mountains in Nepal on Uncharted 2 blow away the snow capped mountains in Nepal on Alan Wake because Alan Wake does not have them?

BPoole96

If you do, it will be to no avail. I did on the last page and he ignored me. He even ignored my prototype reasons for why Prototype is the best looking game this gen.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Guess what, Uncharted 2 doesn't take place in a thick American mid-west forest, so why do you keep comparing Uncharted 2's lack of thick forest to Alan Wake's?

Should I start arguing that the snow capped mountains in Nepal on Uncharted 2 blow away the snow capped mountains in Nepal on Alan Wake because Alan Wake does not have them?

tmntPunchout

If you do, it will be to no avail. I did on the last page and he ignored me. He even ignored my prototype reasons for why Prototype is the best looking game this gen.

lol I saw those. No way to refute those hardcore facts on Prototype being graphics king

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Guess what, Uncharted 2 doesn't take place in a thick American mid-west forest, so why do you keep comparing Uncharted 2's lack of thick forest to Alan Wake's?

Should I start arguing that the snow capped mountains in Nepal on Uncharted 2 blow away the snow capped mountains in Nepal on Alan Wake because Alan Wake does not have them?

BPoole96

If you do, it will be to no avail. I did on the last page and he ignored me. He even ignored my prototype reasons for why Prototype is the best looking game this gen.

lol I saw those. No way to refute those hardcore facts on Prototype being graphics king

I has best spikes in a game too, it must be king

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Guess what, Uncharted 2 doesn't take place in a thick American mid-west forest, so why do you keep comparing Uncharted 2's lack of thick forest to Alan Wake's?

Should I start arguing that the snow capped mountains in Nepal on Uncharted 2 blow away the snow capped mountains in Nepal on Alan Wake because Alan Wake does not have them?

tmntPunchout

If you do, it will be to no avail. I did on the last page and he ignored me. He even ignored my prototype reasons for why Prototype is the best looking game this gen.

Uncharted 2 was in tiny corridors? Really you must have played a different version than I played. Nepal level says hihiryu3

[QUOTE="hiryu3"]Uncharted 2 was in tiny corridors? Really you must have played a different version than I played. Nepal level says hiracing1750

The train was on rails, and totally a tiny path

The below videos show some vast AW areas, can you post a U2 video to match that ? Where you can actually walk on the area, not just train thorugh it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related- (after 1:30 minute)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAM_gx5qH8g&feature=related

So, can we see just how expansive Nepal level is ? Link ?

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

If you do, it will be to no avail. I did on the last page and he ignored me. He even ignored my prototype reasons for why Prototype is the best looking game this gen.

theseekar

lol I saw those. No way to refute those hardcore facts on Prototype being graphics king

I has best spikes in a game too, it must be king

Wh...what?

[QUOTE="hiryu3"]Uncharted 2 was in tiny corridors? Really you must have played a different version than I played. Nepal level says hiracing1750

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Guess what, Uncharted 2 doesn't take place in a thick American mid-west forest, so why do you keep comparing Uncharted 2's lack of thick forest to Alan Wake's?

Should I start arguing that the snow capped mountains in Nepal on Uncharted 2 blow away the snow capped mountains in Nepal on Alan Wake because Alan Wake does not have them?

johny300

If you do, it will be to no avail. I did on the last page and he ignored me. He even ignored my prototype reasons for why Prototype is the best looking game this gen.

He's not being serious

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

lol I saw those. No way to refute those hardcore facts on Prototype being graphics king

BigBoss154

I has best spikes in a game too, it must be king

Wh...what?

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

If you do, it will be to no avail. I did on the last page and he ignored me. He even ignored my prototype reasons for why Prototype is the best looking game this gen.

theseekar

lol I saw those. No way to refute those hardcore facts on Prototype being graphics king

I has best spikes in a game too, it must be king

I know, and Alan Wake has the best looking American Midwest forest ever in a video game. Graphics King confirmed

i say there around the same Uncharted 2 has a Cartoony look to it and alan wake The Photorealism Design.