Alan Wake not HD!

I just saw this and found it interesting.

more pics - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20809732&postcount=415

I have no words for this. lol

Now watch as people will defend this game only to find out how dissapointing it will be.

Not suprised. That picture is so blurry it is unreal. The truck stands out the most.millerlight89

Errr i am going to assume that is a crappy off screen or a terrible camera because i dont remember the game looking so horrible. Also who cares if its sub HD, if it keeps the performance up then go for it.

i can haz pc version meow?

I don't think I care... was never going to play the game for the graphics anyhow.

I love it when people use 500X zoom.

Like it really matters.

I mean do you play games with a magnifying glass?

Errr i am going to assume that is a crappy off screen or a terrible camera because i dont remember the game looking so horrible. Also who cares if its sub HD, if it keeps the performance up then go for it.

Sully28

^^^the 500% zoom is to pixel count the rez

The game is 720p. Those screenshots are based off footage captured at 960x540 like cocorenut pointed out, of course there will be some downsampling involved. As has said before Videogameszone and Gamepro both released footage without approval and due to the fact that we don't know how many compressions their videos went through or what process they took it's best not to use those videos as sources.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Not suprised. That picture is so blurry it is unreal. The truck stands out the most.killzowned24

Hold up. The video capture software used by that website only captures at 960x540 for HD video. It downsamples and then upscales back up for the video itself. There is data loss, and thus I believe, the native resolution would not be preserved.

Maybe I am wrong, but I don't see how the native resolution could be preserved when downsampling is involved for video capture...

Just saying.

I don't think I care... was never going to play the game for the graphics anyhow.

DarkLink77

i doubt a lower res will in any way make the game worse obviously

My eyes definitely see 5x zoom whenever I play a game

Sorry to stop the hate train so early, but this is based on screengrabs from the first 20 minutes videos posted at videogameszone.de, which was downsampled to 960x540 to avoid massive latency.

AW still supposedly runs at 720p

http://forum.alanwake.com/showthread.php?t=3336

Sorry to stop the hate train so early, but this is based on screengrabs from the first 20 minutes videos posted at videogameszone.de, which was downsampled to 960x540 to avoid massive latency.

AW still supposedly runs at 720p

Vaasman

Hate train? HA! I'm just dissapointed at the track they've taken this game.

[QUOTE="Sully28"]

Errr i am going to assume that is a crappy off screen or a terrible camera because i dont remember the game looking so horrible. Also who cares if its sub HD, if it keeps the performance up then go for it.

killzowned24

^^^the 500% zoom is to pixel count the rez

Oh well thats kind of dissapointing, the only thing that looks good is alan wakes jaket. Either way should still be a great game, just maybe not graphics kind like so many people have been saying recently.

Sorry to stop the hate train so early, but this is based on screengrabs from the first 20 minutes videos posted at videogameszone.de, which was downsampled to 960x540 to avoid massive latency.

AW still supposedly runs at 720p

http://forum.alanwake.com/showthread.php?t=3336

Vaasman

That's what I remember hearing. People were claiming 4x AA, and 720p, so I was kinda surprised...

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Sorry to stop the hate train so early, but this is based on screengrabs from the first 20 minutes videos posted at videogameszone.de, which was downsampled to 960x540 to avoid massive latency.

AW still supposedly runs at 720p

LegatoSkyheart

Hate train? HA! I'm just dissapointed at the track they've taken this game.

[QUOTE="Sully28"]

Errr i am going to assume that is a crappy off screen or a terrible camera because i dont remember the game looking so horrible. Also who cares if its sub HD, if it keeps the performance up then go for it.

killzowned24

^^^the 500% zoom is to pixel count the rez

I am not questioning his pixel count(it is accurate). I am questioning the source images. Bad source images = inaccurate count. Wait until someone from Beyond 3D or Digital Foundry gets a copy or direct images that are simple buffergrabs. Until then, this isn't confirmed, because to put it simply, this isn't a very good source as far as the images go. Remedy is pissed because this website did not get permission to post the videos, nor did they follow any of Remedy's guidelines for video compression and capture.

Sorry to stop the hate train so early, but this is based on screengrabs from the first 20 minutes videos posted at videogameszone.de, which was downsampled to 960x540 to avoid massive latency.

AW still supposedly runs at 720p

http://forum.alanwake.com/showthread.php?t=3336

Vaasman

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Sorry to stop the hate train so early, but this is based on screengrabs from the first 20 minutes videos posted at videogameszone.de, which was downsampled to 960x540 to avoid massive latency.

AW still supposedly runs at 720p

http://forum.alanwake.com/showthread.php?t=3336

killzowned24

If its not 720p its not like thats a new thing, but the footage i watched looked alot better than those screens.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Sorry to stop the hate train so early, but this is based on screengrabs from the first 20 minutes videos posted at videogameszone.de, which was downsampled to 960x540 to avoid massive latency.

AW still supposedly runs at 720p

http://forum.alanwake.com/showthread.php?t=3336

millerlight89

Well it most certainly is 4xMSAA. The only thing in question is the actual resolution. And Remedy has said several times already that the game is 720p natively. The source of these images is just terrible though.

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]heres is the DIRECT quote from the manager..NOT programmers! http://forum.alanwake.com/showpost.php?p=68521&postcount=10 I still think the game is running sub HD but upscaled to 720p. makes sense for what AW is trying to achieve from a tech stand point. millerlight89

Didn't Bungie openly say Halo 3 was sub HD because of its HDR?

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="killzowned24"] Hmm, maybe someone should ask the guy where then is a direct video to check.KingsMessenger

Well it most certainly is 4xMSAA. The only thing in question is the actual resolution. And Remedy has said several times already that the game is 720p natively. The source of these images is just terrible though.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]heres is the DIRECT quote from the manager..NOT programmers! http://forum.alanwake.com/showpost.php?p=68521&postcount=10 I still think the game is running sub HD but upscaled to 720p. makes sense for what AW is trying to achieve from a tech stand point. Snagal123

Didn't Bungie openly say Halo 3 was sub HD because of its HDR?

You're not supposed to zoom into things that close in-game. You'll never notice that while you're playing.

Yet it is the best looking console game right nowMkavanaugh77

SD graphics king confirmedParasomniac

[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Well no one that is involved with this game is going to advertise the game as sub HD. millerlight89

Didn't Bungie openly say Halo 3 was sub HD because of its HDR?

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Snagal123"]

Didn't Bungie openly say Halo 3 was sub HD because of its HDR?

DarkLink77

It looks like some one just grabbed some images from the recent videos released, instead of using proper shots.

It's 720p, it's those germans with there crappy hardware..deleterguy

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Well there is such a huge following with that game, I am sure they felt it did not matter.millerlight89

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Sorry to stop the hate train so early, but this is based on screengrabs from the first 20 minutes videos posted at videogameszone.de, which was downsampled to 960x540 to avoid massive latency.

AW still supposedly runs at 720p

LegatoSkyheart

Hate train? HA! I'm just dissapointed at the track they've taken this game.

[QUOTE="deleterguy"]It's 720p, it's those germans with there crappy hardware..disismycomp

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Well there is such a huge following with that game, I am sure they felt it did not matter.millerlight89

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Well, Bungie's pretty honest with their fans about what they're going to do, and how they make their stuff.navyguy21

[QUOTE="deleterguy"]It's 720p, it's those germans with there crappy hardware..disismycomp

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] I just find that hard to believe it is 720p. I find it even harder to believe the 4x AA. millerlight89

Well it most certainly is 4xMSAA. The only thing in question is the actual resolution. And Remedy has said several times already that the game is 720p natively. The source of these images is just terrible though.

Remedy has been extremely honest about their tech from the start, explaining what they are doing, how they are doing it, and why they are doing it.

They confirmed the "pre-rendered cutscenes thing" when most people believed that it was all real-time. They could have danced around the word pre-rendered and said "In-engine(which the cutscenes are)" just like every other developer on the planet, but they instead took the route of sitting down saying "these are pre-rendered videos and here is the list of reasons why we decided to go with pre-rendered cutscenes." So, sorry, your explanation doesn't really fit Remedy. Honestly, native resolution doesn't have any impact on the game and is a much less significant issue than "pre-rendered cutscenes" would be, so why would they be absolutely transparent about that but then lie about this? Just explain how that would logically work.