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#51 xsubtownerx
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its probably going to be like fable where you follow linear paths in a open world. still going to be great

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That wouldn't be bad at all. As long as the game is done better than Fable. ;)
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#52 BURSTIIIFIRE
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its probably going to be like fable where you follow linear paths in a open world. still going to be great

toast_burner

Why just because it's a 360 exclusive? If it was on the PS3 you would be saying that it would be the size of a GTA game...rite?

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#53 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

its probably going to be like fable where you follow linear paths in a open world. still going to be great

xsubtownerx
That wouldn't be bad at all. As long as the game is done better than Fable. ;)

i never said its bad. some games benifit from being linear
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#54 Hahadouken
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I still have high hopes for this game, but it was really announced like... how many years ago now? Before the launch of the 360 if I'm not mistaken. We already had pictures and concept art for what Alan was going to look like. I remain skeptical until the absolute last minute when a game takes this long to release, is this shrouded in secrecy, scraps a particular platform, and rumors abound about the structure of the game world. I hope this is everything it has been touted, lives up to it's own hype as well as Max Payne's expectations, and kicks some serious ass.
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#55 themyth01
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Haters will simply find some trivial thing to complain about, like his messy haircut or some stupid thing like that. This is after all, the underdog's exclusive and like Halo before it, it will be bashed. Either way the game looks awesome. Atmosphere, sound, graphics, gameplay, it's all there.
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#56 poptart
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I haven't bought a game for a long time. Looks like AW may rekindle my fading interest in gaming (ok that an ME2 as well :P)

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#57 Revan_911
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Are there any loading times?

No. Utilising multiple cores, the game will seamlessly generate vast areas of the game world for the graphics card to render.

I guess this was updated a few days ago right? Told you man those answers been there forever, nothing is confirmed. Although i don't know why an open world game woudnt work on the 360 its not like its never been done.

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#58 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

its probably going to be like fable where you follow linear paths in a open world. still going to be great

BURSTIIIFIRE

Why just because it's a 360 exclusive? If it was on the PS3 you would be saying that it would be the size of a GTA game...rite?

no because all the gameplay shows him following a linear path. and as Hideo Kojima its much easier to make a cinematic game with a linear world and last time i checked alan wake is focused on atmousphere and story not running around in a big city.
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#59 SilentlyMad
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

its probably going to be like fable where you follow linear paths in a open world. still going to be great

BURSTIIIFIRE

Why just because it's a 360 exclusive? If it was on the PS3 you would be saying that it would be the size of a GTA game...rite?

:lol: that is so true
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Are there any loading times?

No. Utilising multiple cores, the game will seamlessly generate vast areas of the game world for the graphics card to render.

I guess this was updated a few days ago right? Told you man those answers been there forever, nothing is confirmed. Although i don't know why an open world game woudnt work on the 360 its not like its never been done.

Revan_911

ugh, child please. you do know the 360 uses a multiple core processor right? and theyve stated multiple times that during the day the game is open world.

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#61 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="BURSTIIIFIRE"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

its probably going to be like fable where you follow linear paths in a open world. still going to be great

SilentlyMad

Why just because it's a 360 exclusive? If it was on the PS3 you would be saying that it would be the size of a GTA game...rite?

:lol: that is so true

it couldnt be any more wrong
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#62 Revan_911
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[QUOTE="Revan_911"]

Are there any loading times?

No. Utilising multiple cores, the game will seamlessly generate vast areas of the game world for the graphics card to render.

I guess this was updated a few days ago right? Told you man those answers been there forever, nothing is confirmed. Although i don't know why an open world game woudnt work on the 360 its not like its never been done.

tikki25x

ugh, child please. you do know the 360 uses a multiple core processor right? and theyve stated multiple times that during the day the game is open world.

He clearly means the PC version. It's clear it's been there forever.

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#63 SilentlyMad
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"][QUOTE="BURSTIIIFIRE"]

Why just because it's a 360 exclusive? If it was on the PS3 you would be saying that it would be the size of a GTA game...rite?

toast_burner

:lol: that is so true

it couldnt be any more wrong

Well I guess then on some points we will have to agree to disagree :lol:

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Are there any loading times?

No. Utilising multiple cores, the game will seamlessly generate vast areas of the game world for the graphics card to render.

I guess this was updated a few days ago right? Told you man those answers been there forever, nothing is confirmed. Although i don't know why an open world game woudnt work on the 360 its not like its never been done.

Revan_911

360 is a multiple core system... It's really funny watching fanboys trying to find any little thing to bash the game.

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[QUOTE="tikki25x"]

[QUOTE="Revan_911"]

Are there any loading times?

No. Utilising multiple cores, the game will seamlessly generate vast areas of the game world for the graphics card to render.

I guess this was updated a few days ago right? Told you man those answers been there forever, nothing is confirmed. Although i don't know why an open world game woudnt work on the 360 its not like its never been done.

Revan_911

ugh, child please. you do know the 360 uses a multiple core processor right? and theyve stated multiple times that during the day the game is open world.

He clearly means the PC version. It's clear it's been there forever.

there is no pc version

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This is great news. Because they were taking out the open world aspect made me lose interest. I don't really like survival/horror but what made me want this game was the open world aspect so now that it may be back on my interest has suddenly come back. :P
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#67 Revan_911
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[QUOTE="Revan_911"]

Are there any loading times?

No. Utilising multiple cores, the game will seamlessly generate vast areas of the game world for the graphics card to render.

I guess this was updated a few days ago right? Told you man those answers been there forever, nothing is confirmed. Although i don't know why an open world game woudnt work on the 360 its not like its never been done.

themyth01

360 is a multiple core system... It's really funny watching fanboys trying to find any little thing to bash the game.

I wasn't trying to bash it i have visited those forums and the FAQ is unchanged from 2006/07 that's what I'm trying to tell you.

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#68 themyth01
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The game would have sucked otherwise, because linear games like Uncharted 2 are just plain bad, am I right?

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#69 Revan_911
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[QUOTE="Revan_911"]

[QUOTE="tikki25x"]ugh, child please. you do know the 360 uses a multiple core processor right? and theyve stated multiple times that during the day the game is open world.

toast_burner

He clearly means the PC version. It's clear it's been there forever.

there is no pc version

The PC version was in production, that means that the FAQ is unchanged since the PC version was in production (which was boasted to use all quad cores)
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#70 SecretPolice
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AW the Remedy dev'ed game long, long. long in the making has for good reason these days found itself in my remaining top 5 games to pla.., buy in 2010 - this sucka gonna rock and better yet, even on the third play through- sorta like ME2. :P

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Revan_911"] He clearly means the PC version. It's clear it's been there forever.

Revan_911

there is no pc version

The PC version was in production, that means that the FAQ is unchanged since the PC version was in production (which was boasted to use all quad cores)

this faq was made after the pc version was canceled
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#72 opex07
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Are there any loading times?

No. Utilising multiple cores, the game will seamlessly generate vast areas of the game world for the graphics card to render.

I guess this was updated a few days ago right? Told you man those answers been there forever, nothing is confirmed. Although i don't know why an open world game woudnt work on the 360 its not like its never been done.

Revan_911

How does that prove it is old?

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#73 Revan_911
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[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] there is no pc version

toast_burner

The PC version was in production, that means that the FAQ is unchanged since the PC version was in production (which was boasted to use all quad cores)

this faq was made after the pc version was canceled

No it wasnt.... It may have been updated to answer some new questions, but i recognize those questions from way before.

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Because linear games like Uncharted 2 are just plain bad, am I right?themyth01
well that is fine but the the rest of PS3 games are super open world for example look at the open world of Killzone 2...hmmm oh wait nevermind since that is as linear as they come, But ya lem what about God of War 3 hahahaa lem....oh wait neverminhd since that is as linear and scripted as it gets for a game but there is also...ya but MGS4 um oh ya um nevermind MGS kinda linear and scripted also but what about blah and...blah..blah..blah.......

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#75 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]

"FAQ Last Updated: 12th February 2010." Ahem.

Damn it. Someone beat me to it.

Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]People, go in the link and see when it was posted.BURSTIIIFIRE

and it was updated on : 12th February 2010

Dig into the FAQ page and see what they actually updated. It's only about Max Payne 3, and what tools were used in making the game.

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#76 Revan_911
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[QUOTE="themyth01"] Because linear games like Uncharted 2 are just plain bad, am I right?SilentlyMad

well that is fine but the the rest of PS3 games are super open world for example look at the open world of Killzone 2...hmmm oh wait nevermind since that is as linear as they come, But ya lem what about God of War 3 hahahaa lem....oh wait neverminhd since that is as linear and scripted as it gets for a game but there is also...ya but MGS4 um oh ya um nevermind MGS kinda linear and scripted also but what about blah and...blah..blah..blah.......

I am not a cow and i have nothing against linear games. However i am just pointing out that the faq is old, before the PC version was canned, so it might not be true.

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#77 TintedEyes
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This was in 2007 wth are you people talking about?
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#78 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]:lol: that is so trueSilentlyMad

it couldnt be any more wrong

Well I guess then on some points we will have to agree to disagree :lol:

you can disagree but you would just be fooling your self
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#79 destro123
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Man this game sounds/looks so good, cant wait to play it. Hopefully a demo will come out.

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#80 MC3887
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This was in 2007 wth are you people talking about?TintedEyes

But updated 2010, I hope remedy didn't ruin your chance to bash the game..

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#81 Revan_911
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Man this game sounds/looks so good, cant wait to play it. Hopefully a demo will come out.

destro123
It wont, they said they will focus on polishing the game instead of wasting time on a demo.
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#82 mo0ksi
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FAQ Last Updated: 12th February 2010

New questions are marked with a title colored like this.
Updated questions are marked with a title colored like this.


What is happening with Max Payne 3?

Max Payne 3 is being developed by Rockstar Vancouver (Barking Dog Studios) with a release scheduled for late 2010. Remedy are not involved with development of the title.
http://www.rockstargames.com/maxpayne3/

"The game's story just went through another total re-write earlier this month (the third that I am aware of in the past two years) and that [means] the team would have to have all of the content done by April or May to make that August release date." - Anonymous Rockstar employee, January 15, 2010.

"As of now, we're internally completely focused on Alan Wake. This is our way of doing things, and it's the best way to guarantee that Alan Wake will be the game it deserves to be." - Petri Järvilehto
Remedy and 3D Realms split IP and ownership 50:50 and eventually sold the rights to the Max Payne series to Take 2 for $48 million.

What tools are used to make the game?

3DSMax is used for object modeling, whilst the world environment is created using Remedy's own tool - WorldEditor.

-

Everyone, look closely and see that these were the only two things updated with the FAQ. Nothing more.

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Nice, but why people didn't think it was open world, oh that's right, because it's on 360 and not PC.:lol:

mitu123

Or because the onstage demo looked to be one scripted event after the other while following a very restrictive path...

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#84 Revan_911
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Exactly. That Sam Lake quote is maybe even before the game began production on the 360.
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#85 TintedEyes
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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]This was in 2007 wth are you people talking about?MC3887

But updated 2010, I hope remedy didn't ruin your chance to bash the game..

They only updated 2 questions :?
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#86 xsubtownerx
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Nice, but why people didn't think it was open world, oh that's right, because it's on 360 and not PC.:lol:

AvIdGaMeR444

Or because the onstage demo looked to be one scripted event after the other while following a very restrictive path...

What open world game throws you into the openness without first giving you some kind of linear path as a tutorial?
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[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]This was in 2007 wth are you people talking about?TintedEyes

But updated 2010, I hope remedy didn't ruin your chance to bash the game..

They only updated 2 questions :?

Maybe that is all the need to update, they already stated in the past that only the night was linear anyway, people just chose to ignore it.

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#88 mo0ksi
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And just for kicks, here's a Sam Lake interview with Edge from last year:

The game was originally announced as having a large open world to explore. Is that still the case?

We did try a more free-roaming approach at one point but decided that's not really the way we wanted to go. We want to deliver a good story and a good thriller and create the best possible rollercoaster ride through the game for the player. So the story is the means that guides the player through the game and through the game world. That being said, this path that the player is on is quite wide at times and all through the game there is a lot for the player to explore, but it's not a free-roaming sandbox.

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#89 Revan_911
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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="MC3887"]

But updated 2010, I hope remedy didn't ruin your chance to bash the game..

MC3887

They only updated 2 questions :?

Maybe that is all the need to update, they already stated in the past that only the night was linear anyway, people just chose to ignore it.

"We'll open more of the game world as the game progresses. The area is so large, that we want the players to become familiar with a smaller subset of the world, before we introduce new locations and new areas." - Sam Lake I remember this quote it has been in the FAQ for ages, before the PC version was canned, am i that unclear or what?
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#90 KingsMessenger
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This was in 2007 wth are you people talking about?TintedEyes

The game is still partially open world...

Night = Objective-Base Linear Missions

Day =Unstructured Exploration in Large, Open Environmentsand Investigation/Missions

Recent previews have reiterated this. And Remedy has reiterated this many times on their forum. Infact, the "achievements" that were revealed also suggest this:

Story & campaign progression

Achievement: Park Ranger

"Alan Wake has been broken into episodes, similar to a TV-series structure. The End of a episode is a good calm spot to reward the player with an achievement without spoiling or disturbing anything else going on in the game. This particular achievement is rewarded after an episode where the player has spent considerable time in the Elderwood National Park, an area of the gameworld we highlighted during E3 2009."

Difficult Achievements

Achievement: Gunless Wonder

"Player has to complete a certain section of the game without firing a single bullet, just utilizing his light-based weapons and environment only."

Achievement: Meet the Deadline
"Writers, like game developers, have deadlines to meet. In this one, player has to get through a certain section of the game under a strict time limit."

Leveraging advanced techniques & mechanics

Achievement: Two for the Price of One

"This particular achievement is awarded if a player manages to destroy two enemies with a single blast from his shotgun. This is something that might happen by accident if the player is lucky or something he can choose to go after by trying to setup combat situations where this is more likely to occur."

Achievement: Collateral Carnage
"To receive this one, the player has to use his wits more than his weapons. He needs to collect enough indirect kills, using the dynamic situation and the environment to his advantage."

Achievement: Back! Back, I Say!
"If a player manages to save himself by using a handflare to drive off the enemies when they almost got him, he will receive this achievement."

Utilizing entire inventory

Achievement: It's Not Just a Typewriter Brand

"I'm not sure if GamePro readers associate the name Remington more with shotguns or typewriters, but the brand exists in both categories. Wake believes a manuscript he wrote is coming true. So in essence he created his own predicament with a typewriter and now he has to solve it with a shotgun. To achieve this one players have to prefer their shotgun over other powerful weapons and choose to go in for the close kills with it."

Exploration Achievements

Achievement: Bright Falls Aficionado

"Players who are interested in Bright Falls as a location have the opportunity to dig in deeper to the colorful past and present of the quirky small town. By exploring the gameworld, they'll be able to get a much richer understanding of the place and we reward them with this achievement to boot."

Achievement: Damn Good Cup of Coffee
"Now, the naming of this one is an homage to one of our influences for the game and a good example of those pop cultural references we love to put in our games. I can't tell you yet how you will receive this one, other than it will be related to exploring the gameworld's every nook and cranny."

Achievement: Collector's Edition
"We've already revealed that Wake's lost manuscript is at the heart of this whole mystery player is trying to solve. Throughout the gameworld, players will find pages of this lost novel. Some are easy to find and others hard. Some will be key to understanding the story while others fill in gaps, add color and round out the overall story experience for those players who really get into the story. By collecting every single manuscript in the gameworld - and there's quite a few-- you'll be rewarded with this one."

Three "exploration" achievements and the descriptions of them suggest that there is plenty to explore.

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#91 TintedEyes
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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="MC3887"]

But updated 2010, I hope remedy didn't ruin your chance to bash the game..

MC3887

They only updated 2 questions :?

Maybe that is all the need to update, they already stated in the past that only the night was linear anyway, people just chose to ignore it.

Maybe you should see the post below yours :lol:
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#92 MC3887
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[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"] They only updated 2 questions :?TintedEyes

Maybe that is all the need to update, they already stated in the past that only the night was linear anyway, people just chose to ignore it.

Maybe you should see the post below yours :lol:

They stated that yes, but they still said open world during the day linear at night. If I am wrong we will soon find out(game is coming soon).

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regardless of the FAQ. Remedy has done a ton of interviews lately saying the day time sections are open. and they said GTA style open world just wasnt working. it was a design decision by a pretty talented group of devs. maybe people should respect their ability and experiance in the field instead of acting like they can do their job better than they can.

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regardless of the FAQ. Remedy has done a ton of interviews lately saying the day time sections are open. and they said GTA style open world just wasnt working. it was a design decision by a pretty talented group of devs. maybe people should respect their ability and experiance in the field instead of acting like they can do their job better than they can.

tikki25x
thats what i was saying. its going to be open but its not going to have a huge gta type map. it just wont fit the style of the game
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going to be a spectacular game no doubt

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#96 tikki25x
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[QUOTE="tikki25x"]

regardless of the FAQ. Remedy has done a ton of interviews lately saying the day time sections are open. and they said GTA style open world just wasnt working. it was a design decision by a pretty talented group of devs. maybe people should respect their ability and experiance in the field instead of acting like they can do their job better than they can.

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thats what i was saying. its going to be open but its not going to have a huge gta type map. it just wont fit the style of the game

exactly. the games too story driven to be completely open world.

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#97 Revan_911
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[QUOTE="tikki25x"]

regardless of the FAQ. Remedy has done a ton of interviews lately saying the day time sections are open. and they said GTA style open world just wasnt working. it was a design decision by a pretty talented group of devs. maybe people should respect their ability and experiance in the field instead of acting like they can do their job better than they can.

toast_burner
thats what i was saying. its going to be open but its not going to have a huge gta type map. it just wont fit the style of the game

It won't fit the limitations of a five year old hardware. And they clearly say it's not going to be open. Having large areas to explore is not an open world.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="tikki25x"]

regardless of the FAQ. Remedy has done a ton of interviews lately saying the day time sections are open. and they said GTA style open world just wasnt working. it was a design decision by a pretty talented group of devs. maybe people should respect their ability and experiance in the field instead of acting like they can do their job better than they can.

Revan_911
thats what i was saying. its going to be open but its not going to have a huge gta type map. it just wont fit the style of the game

It won't fit the limitations of a five year old hardware. And they clearly say it's not going to be open. Having large areas to explore is not an open world.

What is an open world then?
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="tikki25x"]

regardless of the FAQ. Remedy has done a ton of interviews lately saying the day time sections are open. and they said GTA style open world just wasnt working. it was a design decision by a pretty talented group of devs. maybe people should respect their ability and experiance in the field instead of acting like they can do their job better than they can.

Revan_911

thats what i was saying. its going to be open but its not going to have a huge gta type map. it just wont fit the style of the game

It won't fit the limitations of a five year old hardware. And they clearly say it's not going to be open. Having large areas to explore is not an open world.

wow dude hows development going on Alan Wake? you must be part of Remedy with all these "facts" you keep hitting us with. they didnt make you sign a NDA? lol

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[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]thats what i was saying. its going to be open but its not going to have a huge gta type map. it just wont fit the style of the gamethemyth01
It won't fit the limitations of a five year old hardware. And they clearly say it's not going to be open. Having large areas to explore is not an open world.

What is an open world then?

GTA is open world. Gun is open world. Bully. Alan Wake sounds like Call of Juarez 2. A couple of free roam levels and the rest linear. It's not a bad thing CoJ2 rocked but you shouldn't claim that its an open world.