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#1 darth-pyschosis
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someone else posted this link, so thank you. I felt it deserved its own thread.

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=68776

go read it and shut up people.

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#2 Grodus5
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Darth, you're all over the place creating threads defending the Wii!  *hands Darth a cookie*  Great thread, keep up the good work
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#3 justdog11
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If I wanted amazing graphics I'd go play outside.  I'm tired of "Woah, it looks just like real life! :o"... We sit here debating on how video games is making things you don't do everyday as immersive as real life and it's just stupid.

All Wii needs to be my faveorite system is to have a game starring Zidane Tribal of FFIX ^.^

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#4 agentfred
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Well, the proof is in the pudding.  When the wii stops making games look like wing island, mabye i'll believe that guy.
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#5 Grodus5
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If I wanted amazing graphics I'd go play outside.  I'm tired of "Woah, it looks just like real life! :o"... We sit here debating on how video games is making things you don't do everyday as immersive as real life and it's just stupid.

All Wii needs to be my faveorite system is to have a game starring Zidane Tribal of FFIX ^.^

justdog11
This reminds me of an arguement this group of Nintendo lovers and graphics lovers had. That was one of the funniest system war conversations ever. The Nintendo lover said that a muffin he ate had great graphics, and he didn't have to pay 400 dollars for it. It all went from there.
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#6 JayMatthews06
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Excellent thread.

Keep on bumping this to keep people informed.

Go Wii!
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Wow, I definitely recommend showing this to more people on SW.  I learned some things I didn't even know about the Wii's graphical capabilites.  Sure, it still isn't anything as graphically advanced as the 360 or PS3, but there is a graphical upgrade in there.  If there weren't, then Miyamoto wouldn't have specifically asked for Wii to have an upgrade in visuals.  (In case you didn't know, Nintendo originally wanted to make a console with almost exact GCN specifications that only costed $100... but Miyamoto pushed things so that a graphical upgrade happend)
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If I wanted amazing graphics I'd go play outside.  I'm tired of "Woah, it looks just like real life! :o"... We sit here debating on how video games is making things you don't do everyday as immersive as real life and it's just stupid.

All Wii needs to be my faveorite system is to have a game starring Zidane Tribal of FFIX ^.^

justdog11

Well almost everything that happens in  a videogame cant be done in real life....so whats wrong with trying to help to make u feel as if your there?

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If I wanted amazing graphics I'd go play outside. I'm tired of "Woah, it looks just like real life! :o"... We sit here debating on how video games is making things you don't do everyday as immersive as real life and it's just stupid.

All Wii needs to be my faveorite system is to have a game starring Zidane Tribal of FFIX ^.^

justdog11
Uh. Outside is limited to the restraints of real-world rules. Meaning no dragons, no killing cops, no magical fairy people, no awesome over-the-top action sequences. What if I suck at baseball, soccer, football, or snowboarding? What if I suck at racing in reality? When I do these things in games, it's nice that they at least try to mimic reality as much as they possibly can without the restraints of real-world rules. So, your argument that one should just go outside to play games with amazing graphics is well.... impaired.
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#11 XTy
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I have yet to meet the fan that is happy WITH ONLY A WII, this generation.

The Wii is a great Compliment system, but a terrible ONLY choice.

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You can't defend something that was intentionally designed as a cheap gimmicy alternative.  The hardware of Wii cannot dream of facilitating a forth of the games on the market, yet alone even dream of being able to process some of the DX10 stuff that will come out over the next few years.  Nintendo took the low road, and sold Nintendo fans out in the same process.
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Well, the proof is in the pudding. When the wii stops making games look like wing island, mabye i'll believe that guy.agentfred
Strange I wasn't aware the Wii system could develop games on it's own. You have problems with certain developers not doing good work. Take it up with them. At least know who to direct your bashing toward.
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Yay, one more point the cows can't use! *high fives self* *gets sad at realization of nerdom*
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#15 justdog11
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Call me crazy, but I feel more immersed in the SNES final fantasies at times than the PS1-2 ones.  Videogames is escapism, therefore realistic graphics can take some of that escapism away.  Thats why the solution is to use the power for nice, clean graphicry, but use it in a new, unique art style like Twilight Princesses twilight realm to help highten the sense of escapism.
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#16 XTy
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You can't defend something that was intentionally designed as a cheap gimmicy alternative.  The hardware of Wii cannot dream of facilitating a forth of the games on the market, yet alone even dream of being able to process some of the DX10 stuff that will come out over the next few years.  Nintendo took the low road, and sold Nintendo fans out in the same process. FoamingPanda

It may take a few years, but they will learn.

Already, many Wii fans are buyinig 360's/PS3's/PS2's, etc. It just doesn't have what it takes to be the ONLY console in the home.(Unless that family chooses to be unhappy or stop gaming.)

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You can't defend something that was intentionally designed as a cheap gimmicy alternative.  The hardware of Wii cannot dream of facilitating a forth of the games on the market, yet alone even dream of being able to process some of the DX10 stuff that will come out over the next few years.  Nintendo took the low road, and sold Nintendo fans out in the same process. FoamingPanda

Do you have a link to prove you statement???

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#18 ps3-nikita
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That thread debunked nothing. I already question it and had no real good replies from it. In short, that tc spent too much time using other systems and specs to porve a point, he couldnt prove with Wii screenshots. If I am going to debunks myths that Ps3 had better graphics then 360. Then I will post a hell of alot of 360 images. These guy posted pics from every console and handheld he could. His argument, was if x can do it, then so call the Wii. Way too much theory in something that is suppose to be debunk. If you are gonna debunk, show me lots of pics showing what this console can do. Specs and pics of chips and what other console/handhelds can do prove nothing. In closing, I have seen more proof in here and thats saying something.
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#19 darth-pyschosis
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I have yet to meet the fan that is happy WITH ONLY A WII, this generation.

The Wii is a great Compliment system, but a terrible ONLY choice.

XTy

well hello. my name is darth pychosis (misspelled i know) and I own a DS lite and a Wii. I'm happy. I don't plan on buying a 360 coz though it has good games , alot of them will be on PC( mass effect , kotor 3, fable 2) and i won't buy a PS3 coz i'm not a moron who likes paying for overpriced 360's with half the games and a quarter of them original titles and 2 or 3 of them exclusive.

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#20 XTy
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[QUOTE="XTy"]

I have yet to meet the fan that is happy WITH ONLY A WII, this generation.

The Wii is a great Compliment system, but a terrible ONLY choice.

darth-pyschosis

well hello. my name is darth pychosis (misspelled i know) and I own a DS lite and a Wii. I'm happy. I don't plan on buying a 360 coz though it has good games , alot of them will be on PC( mass effect , kotor 3, fable 2) and i won't buy a PS3 coz i'm not a moron who likes paying for overpriced 360's with half the games and a quarter of them original titles and 2 or 3 of them exclusive.

For now...countdown for 12 months and you will be a 360/PS3/PS2 owner. It just takes time for you to realize what the Wii is...

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#21 lzorro
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someone else posted this link, so thank you. I felt it deserved its own thread.

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=68776

go read it and shut up people.

darth-pyschosis
I posted the link yesterday my exact words were "Here you got TC inform yourself" I think :? but I got it from some one else I think it was SSBLegend. or was it Sylux.....
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#22 i_like_pizza
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[QUOTE="justdog11"]

If I wanted amazing graphics I'd go play outside.  I'm tired of "Woah, it looks just like real life! :o"... We sit here debating on how video games is making things you don't do everyday as immersive as real life and it's just stupid.

All Wii needs to be my faveorite system is to have a game starring Zidane Tribal of FFIX ^.^

-Sir-Poof-

Well almost everything that happens in  a videogame cant be done in real life....so whats wrong with trying to help to make u feel as if your there?

I slay lava-monsters all day long for a living.  Show a little cultural sensitivity, man.    :P

In all seriousness, though, if we're engaging in video games to somehow get closer to the ideal of saving the world and getting the princess, etc etc etc, that might be an indication that we're losing it a little bit upstairs, or possibly that we just need to connect with the real world a little more.  Romanticism is a wonderful thing, but it's much better experienced in person than in fiction.

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#23 Kev_Unreal
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Wii haters got owned!
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#24 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"][QUOTE="XTy"]

I have yet to meet the fan that is happy WITH ONLY A WII, this generation.

The Wii is a great Compliment system, but a terrible ONLY choice.

XTy

well hello. my name is darth pychosis (misspelled i know) and I own a DS lite and a Wii. I'm happy. I don't plan on buying a 360 coz though it has good games , alot of them will be on PC( mass effect , kotor 3, fable 2) and i won't buy a PS3 coz i'm not a moron who likes paying for overpriced 360's with half the games and a quarter of them original titles and 2 or 3 of them exclusive.

For now...countdown for 12 months and you will be a 360/PS3/PS2 owner. It just takes time for you to realize what the Wii is...

no thanks. the DS has more AAA games then the 360/PS3 and almost as many as the PS2. That alone is better than the other options. 360 is alright but repetitive games. PS3, nothing i'm interesting in except starting a bon fire.

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#25 i_like_pizza
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I have yet to meet the fan that is happy WITH ONLY A WII, this generation.

The Wii is a great Compliment system, but a terrible ONLY choice.

XTy

You've met at least one now.  And no, I do not intend to be an owner of the 360 or PS3, so you can spare yourself the time to type that out.  The Wii is an excellent only choice.  I can't play the games that the Wii has anywhere else.  That's EXACTLY what I want if I'm going to have an only choice. 

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#26 coonana
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I have yet to meet the fan that is happy WITH ONLY A WII, this generation.

The Wii is a great Compliment system, but a terrible ONLY choice.

XTy

I have yet to meet a person who is informed about gaming satisfied with the 360 and it is been out for a year. They have all been playing games they didnt finish from GC/Xbox/PS2. And of course the PS3 almost has like two games to play so there is no arguement there. Wii has alot of games and its library is already rivalling the 360;s year old library which is pretty sad.

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#27 BigDizz
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Yes, they arent crappy, but they arent anything special
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#28 Ironblindfold
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Well, the proof is in the pudding. When the wii stops making games look like wing island, mabye i'll believe that guy.agentfred
The Wii doesnt make games, devs do. And once they stop being lazy and realize how much better profit they can make by trying harder, you'll see proof.
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#29 gnutux
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I have yet to meet the fan that is happy WITH ONLY A WII, this generation.

The Wii is a great Compliment system, but a terrible ONLY choice.

XTy
Actually, I have a friend who only have a Wii and he's very happy. He has played the XBOX 360 and the PS3. He likes the XBOX 360 but hates PS3, but he loves his Wii. gnutux
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#30 Silvereign
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someone else posted this link, so thank you. I felt it deserved its own thread.

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=68776

go read it and shut up people.

darth-pyschosis


This prooves nothing but a ridicolous opinion.
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#31 ps3-nikita
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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

someone else posted this link, so thank you. I felt it deserved its own thread.

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=68776

go read it and shut up people.

Silvereign


This prooves nothing but a ridicolous opinion.

Trying to explain it to sheeps, is like htting your head against a brick wall. Dude your link is full of self ownage, if your going to point to faults, find a better link.
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#32 Kev_Unreal
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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

someone else posted this link, so thank you. I felt it deserved its own thread.

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=68776

go read it and shut up people.

Silvereign



This prooves nothing but a ridicolous opinion.

Do you have evidence to back up your claim?

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#33 bc1391
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Well, the proof is in the pudding. When the wii stops making games look like wing island, mabye i'll believe that guy.agentfred
Its not the Wiis' fault for making games that look like Wing Island, its the developers and the time they put into games. Nintendo's first party games looks amazing but games like Far Cry and COD3 do not.
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#34 heretrix
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Meh. Compared to the 360 and PS3 the Wii does have crappy graphics. Lets not try and turn it into something it isn't ok? The Wiis big selling point is that it is fun and easy to use. That's good enough for me. I only bought it to play Nintendo games anyway.
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#35 ps3-nikita
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[QUOTE="Silvereign"][QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

someone else posted this link, so thank you. I felt it deserved its own thread.

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=68776

go read it and shut up people.

Kev_Unreal



This prooves nothing but a ridicolous opinion.

Do you have evidence to back up your claim?

Sorry, but niether did the original post from that tc.
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#36 darth-pyschosis
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http://gonintendo.com/?p=9266

proof tha SMG runs at 60 FPS.

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#37 Kev_Unreal
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[QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"][QUOTE="Silvereign"][QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

someone else posted this link, so thank you. I felt it deserved its own thread.

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=68776

go read it and shut up people.

ps3-nikita



This prooves nothing but a ridicolous opinion.

Do you have evidence to back up your claim?

Sorry, but niether did the original post from that tc.

sooooo that a no I guess.:( Wii haters got owned.

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#38 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"][QUOTE="Silvereign"][QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

someone else posted this link, so thank you. I felt it deserved its own thread.

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=68776

go read it and shut up people.

ps3-nikita



This prooves nothing but a ridicolous opinion.

Do you have evidence to back up your claim?

Sorry, but niether did the original post from that tc.

and what the hell does TC mean?

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#39 lzorro
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http://gonintendo.com/?p=9266

proof tha SMG runs at 60 FPS.

darth-pyschosis
So does SSX Blur with occasional drops. And MP3.
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#40 Kev_Unreal
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what the hell does TC mean?darth-pyschosis

 Topic Creator (you).

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#41 stohay
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I have a 360 but I have been trying to get rid of that console if i ever get wii because PC>360 & PS3. Wii is really nice to have if u have real friend :D, for virtual friend i think PC does that best for me.
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[QUOTE="ps3-nikita"][QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"][QUOTE="Silvereign"][QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

someone else posted this link, so thank you. I felt it deserved its own thread.

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=68776

go read it and shut up people.

Kev_Unreal



This prooves nothing but a ridicolous opinion.

Do you have evidence to back up your claim?

Sorry, but niether did the original post from that tc.

sooooo that a no I guess.:( Wii haters got owned.

again!
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If I wanted amazing graphics I'd go play outside. I'm tired of "Woah, it looks just like real life! :o"... We sit here debating on how video games is making things you don't do everyday as immersive as real life and it's just stupid.

All Wii needs to be my faveorite system is to have a game starring Zidane Tribal of FFIX ^.^

justdog11
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#44 rykaziel
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I wish Factor 5 would make another Rogue Squadron game instead of this Lair crap. Rogue Squadron was sooooooo good for GC, and still looks fantastic.
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#45 darth-pyschosis
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I wish Factor 5 would make another Rogue Squadron game instead of this Lair crap. Rogue Squadron was sooooooo good for GC, and still looks fantastic.rykaziel

you and me both. lair looks, mediocre i guess. it might be alright. i would say the same with bioware and KOTOR but mass effect will be great for 360/PC

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#46 XTy
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[QUOTE="rykaziel"]I wish Factor 5 would make another Rogue Squadron game instead of this Lair crap. Rogue Squadron was sooooooo good for GC, and still looks fantastic.darth-pyschosis

you and me both. lair looks, mediocre i guess. it might be alright. i would say the same with bioware and KOTOR but mass effect will be great for 360/PC

I don't like PS3.

But if Lair looks mediocre, I would hate to see what you think about the Wii Graphics...yuck!

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The Link won't work for me for some reason.....:cry:
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I have yet to meet the fan that is happy WITH ONLY A WII, this generation.

The Wii is a great Compliment system, but a terrible ONLY choice.

XTy

Hello,I'm VGobbsessor.I'm a proud Wii and DS owner,and I am perfectly happy with my Wii.I don't plan to buy a 360 or PS3 or any other console unless there are enough games that I want on them,but unfortunately,it doesn't seem like that will happen.The Wii is a great primary console,and I am perfectly satisfied.

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#49 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="rykaziel"]I wish Factor 5 would make another Rogue Squadron game instead of this Lair crap. Rogue Squadron was sooooooo good for GC, and still looks fantastic.XTy

you and me both. lair looks, mediocre i guess. it might be alright. i would say the same with bioware and KOTOR but mass effect will be great for 360/PC

I don't like PS3.

But if Lair looks mediocre, I would hate to see what you think about the Wii Graphics...yuck!

lair looks like a mediocre game. not graphics. graphics don't make games. gameplay does.

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The Link won't work for me for some reason.....:cry:tocool340

Yeah,it won't work for me,either.......