An exclusive game is still an exclusive even if its on the PC

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

Its pathetically small compared to the PC gaming market isnt it? So therefore, such a small market shouldnt count. Thats why your logic fails miserably.

Oh by the way, got something to make your previous claim? Certainly doesnt seem to be the case of PC gaming being small with a 200 million PC gamer userbase.

JPOBS

:| Was it seriously so hard to type Ctrl+F and just search for "200"

"We are excited to partner with Razer to develop Reclusa and deliver on the keyboard needs of an estimated 200 million PC gamers worldwide," said Bill Jukes, product marketing manager for Microsoft Hardware at Microsoft. "The new keyboard builds upon our joint commitment to provide the most advanced features and comfortable implementation to the gaming community."article

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

They're multiplatform.

The term console exclusive is damage control used to eliminate a platform to create some kind of illusionary first place to claim ownage over other console fans.

Overthrow

pc gaming is a small market. console exclusivity is very important considering nintendo, microsoft and sony are not competing with pcs.

in truth, its a double edged blade. a game is not exclusive period if it can be found elsewhere. conversely, the denial of the importance of console exclusivity is damage control also.

That's ridiculous. PC gaming is a larger market than any of the current gen consoles, none of which have sold much more than 10 million. There are PC games that have sold more than that (the Sims, for example).

console, console, console, console, console. a pc is not a console.

JPOBS

No, the PC is not a console. I agree with you there.

Before you quote the above line only and make some smartass remark, it doesn't matter. Console exclusivity is just a weak form of damage control. If a game is on more than one system, it's not exclusive. It means we don't need your specific system to play it.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]I'm talking console exclusivity because for us console gamers thats what really matters at the end of the dayJPOBS

I dont think calling a bunch of people playing "make pretend" that a perfectly viable gaming platform doesnt exist is what "really matters at the end."

people like to say "if i have a pc blah blah". that IF is so big its not even funny. the number of gamers who game exclusively on consoles is thousands of times the number of those that game on a pc or pc/console combo. fact.

based on what?

Steam Just announced it has 13 million users....thats over twice that of XBL.

X-Fire, a free, optional service, that most people dont even use, has 7 million users.

You want to combine the amount of PC's sold? Do you really want me to do that?

Your the one who brought up hardware....dont bring it up, if you dont want it to be thrown back at you.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

Its pathetically small compared to the PC gaming market isnt it? So therefore, such a small market shouldnt count. Thats why your logic fails miserably.

Oh by the way, got something to make your previous claim? Certainly doesnt seem to be the case of PC gaming being small with a 200 million PC gamer userbase.

XaosII

:| Was it seriously so hard to type Ctrl+F and just search for "200"

"We are excited to partner with Razer to develop Reclusa and deliver on the keyboard needs of an estimated 200 million PC gamers worldwide," said Bill Jukes, product marketing manager for Microsoft Hardware at Microsoft. "The new keyboard builds upon our joint commitment to provide the most advanced features and comfortable implementation to the gaming community."article

[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

Its pathetically small compared to the PC gaming market isnt it? So therefore, such a small market shouldnt count. Thats why your logic fails miserably.

Oh by the way, got something to make your previous claim? Certainly doesnt seem to be the case of PC gaming being small with a 200 million PC gamer userbase.

JPOBS

:| Was it seriously so hard to type Ctrl+F and just search for "200"

"We are excited to partner with Razer to develop Reclusa and deliver on the keyboard needs of an estimated 200 million PC gamers worldwide," said Bill Jukes, product marketing manager for Microsoft Hardware at Microsoft. "The new keyboard builds upon our joint commitment to provide the most advanced features and comfortable implementation to the gaming community."article

No one has to wonder where your ill informed facts of "PC gaming is small - it doesnt count" comes from, though.

Outside of SW, I agree with you, because I see the PC and console markets as two seperate and radically different entities.

However, this is System Wars and here, if its on the PC and one other console, it is not exclusive.

[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

Its pathetically small compared to the PC gaming market isnt it? So therefore, such a small market shouldnt count. Thats why your logic fails miserably.

Oh by the way, got something to make your previous claim? Certainly doesnt seem to be the case of PC gaming being small with a 200 million PC gamer userbase.

JPOBS

:| Was it seriously so hard to type Ctrl+F and just search for "200"

"We are excited to partner with Razer to develop Reclusa and deliver on the keyboard needs of an estimated 200 million PC gamers worldwide," said Bill Jukes, product marketing manager for Microsoft Hardware at Microsoft. "The new keyboard builds upon our joint commitment to provide the most advanced features and comfortable implementation to the gaming community."article

Microsoft themselves. Its their website if you hadnet noticed.

Console gaming and PC gaming is different very different, Consoles are the definition of gaming so if a game is exclusive to a console but is also gonna come out on the PC then it doesn't matter, the game is still console exclusive.

Mass effect coming to PC and 360, still it means console-wise its exclusive to 360 thus giving 360 owners the right to boast about it to PS3 and Wii owners.

The Agency coming to PC and PS3, still it means console-wise its exclusive toPS3 thus givingPS3 owners the right to boast about it to 360 and Wii owners.

etc etc.

From now on lets no moan that a game is not an exclusive if its also on the PC because in reality its an exclusive console game and thats what really matters.

Who the heck cares if a console game is on the PC anyway ?, I know I don't *picks up flame shield*

Swift_Boss_A

The reality is clear, more games are sold on consoles than pc (not counting the WOW people and the sims) and since that is the case, if the game is on a console and pc, it is and will always be console exclusive.

Some will say otherwise (as they will say "I'll get it for my pc" as in most cases they are actually lying).

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

console, console, console, console, console. a pc is not a console.

Overthrow

No, the PC is not a console. I agree with you there.

Before you quote the above line only and make some smartass remark, it doesn't matter. Console exclusivity is just a weak form of damage control. If a game is on more than one system, it's not exclusive. It means we don't need your specific system to play it.

so go ahead, repaet once more in an ignorant fashion what the word "exclusive" means so i can go ahead and explain the above paragraph once more.

:shock: woah I never thought this topic would grow so big so fast.

look folks everyone has there own opinion and for mean exclusive is an exclusive if its found only in 1 of the 3 consoles.

I'm a PS3 fan and most of PS3 exclusives will only be found on PS3 which can't really be said for the Xbox 360.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

Its pathetically small compared to the PC gaming market isnt it? So therefore, such a small market shouldnt count. Thats why your logic fails miserably.

Oh by the way, got something to make your previous claim? Certainly doesnt seem to be the case of PC gaming being small with a 200 million PC gamer userbase.

XaosII

:| Was it seriously so hard to type Ctrl+F and just search for "200"

"We are excited to partner with Razer to develop Reclusa and deliver on the keyboard needs of an estimated 200 million PC gamers worldwide," said Bill Jukes, product marketing manager for Microsoft Hardware at Microsoft. "The new keyboard builds upon our joint commitment to provide the most advanced features and comfortable implementation to the gaming community."article

No one has to wonder where your ill informed facts of "PC gaming is small - it doesnt count" comes from, though.

ENd the Thread. Ther is NO NO!! SUch thing as Console Exclusive because even if its on 1 console and PC ITS NOT EXCLUSIVE TO ANYTHING

[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

Its pathetically small compared to the PC gaming market isnt it? So therefore, such a small market shouldnt count. Thats why your logic fails miserably.

Oh by the way, got something to make your previous claim? Certainly doesnt seem to be the case of PC gaming being small with a 200 million PC gamer userbase.

JPOBS

:| Was it seriously so hard to type Ctrl+F and just search for "200"

"We are excited to partner with Razer to develop Reclusa and deliver on the keyboard needs of an estimated 200 million PC gamers worldwide," said Bill Jukes, product marketing manager for Microsoft Hardware at Microsoft. "The new keyboard builds upon our joint commitment to provide the most advanced features and comfortable implementation to the gaming community."article

No one has to wonder where your ill informed facts of "PC gaming is small - it doesnt count" comes from, though.

this isnt the console war....

Its system wars

[QUOTE="Overthrow"]

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

console, console, console, console, console. a pc is not a console.

JPOBS

No, the PC is not a console. I agree with you there.

Before you quote the above line only and make some smartass remark, it doesn't matter. Console exclusivity is just a weak form of damage control. If a game is on more than one system, it's not exclusive. It means we don't need your specific system to play it.

so go ahead, repaet once more in an ignorant fashion what the word "exclusive" means so i can go ahead and explain the above paragraph once more.

"console exclusive" has to be one of the most ignorant things that people say on these boards.. that only falls next to the "Wii is killing hardcore gaming" argument... >_>DA_B0MB

[QUOTE="Overthrow"]

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

console, console, console, console, console. a pc is not a console.

JPOBS

No, the PC is not a console. I agree with you there.

Before you quote the above line only and make some smartass remark, it doesn't matter. Console exclusivity is just a weak form of damage control. If a game is on more than one system, it's not exclusive. It means we don't need your specific system to play it.

so go ahead, repaet once more in an ignorant fashion what the word "exclusive" means so i can go ahead and explain the above paragraph once more.

You didn't explain anything. You're just accusing me of not understanding some kind of concept that's considered absurd in SYSTEM Wars. It also seems you're "intentionaly refusing to acknowledge" the relevance of the PC in System Wars, as if undermining its existence and, dare I say, overwhelming success as a gaming platform.

this is a weird issue

[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

Its pathetically small compared to the PC gaming market isnt it? So therefore, such a small market shouldnt count. Thats why your logic fails miserably.

Oh by the way, got something to make your previous claim? Certainly doesnt seem to be the case of PC gaming being small with a 200 million PC gamer userbase.

JPOBS

:| Was it seriously so hard to type Ctrl+F and just search for "200"

"We are excited to partner with Razer to develop Reclusa and deliver on the keyboard needs of an estimated 200 million PC gamers worldwide," said Bill Jukes, product marketing manager for Microsoft Hardware at Microsoft. "The new keyboard builds upon our joint commitment to provide the most advanced features and comfortable implementation to the gaming community."article

No one has to wonder where your ill informed facts of "PC gaming is small - it doesnt count" comes from, though.

this is not console wars!!!!!!!!!! It is SYSTEM WARS!!! fact.
lettuceman44

System Wars?!

THIS IS SPARTAAA!!

...

Sorry, couldn't resist.

PC is not in the console war so if agame is coming out on one particular console then it a big coup for that console.

PC gaming is at a decline anyway thats why most PC games are making there way to consoles like UT3. I'm sure Crysis will one day be on a console.

THIS IS MADNESS...... THIS IS SYSTEM WARS! PC Is a System

PC is not in the console war so if agame is coming out on one particular console then it a big coup for that console.

PC gaming is at a decline anyway thats why most PC games are making there way to consoles like UT3. I'm sure Crysis will one day be on a console.

Swift_Boss_A

PC is not in the console war so if agame is coming out on one particular console then it a big coup for that console.

PC gaming is at a decline anyway thats why most PC games are making there way to consoles like UT3. I'm sure Crysis will one day be on a console.

Swift_Boss_A

I guess since Capcom has begun porting all their games to the PC, Console gaming is on a decline.

BTW: do you really think Mass Effect and GEOW wont be on the PC eventually?

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

PC is not in the console war so if agame is coming out on one particular console then it a big coup for that console.

PC gaming is at a decline anyway thats why most PC games are making there way to consoles like UT3. I'm sure Crysis will one day be on a console.

cobrax25

I guess since Capcom has begun porting all their games to the PC, Console gaming is on a decline.

BTW: do you really think Mass Effect and GEOW wont be on the PC eventually?

not anytime soon

Console gaming and PC gaming is different very different, Consoles are the definition of gaming so if a game is exclusive to a console but is also gonna come out on the PC then it doesn't matter, the game is still console exclusive.

Mass effect coming to PC and 360, still it means console-wise its exclusive to 360 thus giving 360 owners the right to boast about it to PS3 and Wii owners.

The Agency coming to PC and PS3, still it means console-wise its exclusive toPS3 thus givingPS3 owners the right to boast about it to 360 and Wii owners.

etc etc.

From now on lets no moan that a game is not an exclusive if its also on the PC because in reality its an exclusive console game and thats what really matters.

Who the heck cares if a console game is on the PC anyway ?, I know I don't *picks up flame shield*

Swift_Boss_A

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

PC is not in the console war so if agame is coming out on one particular console then it a big coup for that console.

PC gaming is at a decline anyway thats why most PC games are making there way to consoles like UT3. I'm sure Crysis will one day be on a console.

GarchomPro

true but the majority of system wars topics are based on console games, there are like only 1 or 2 topics in a million which are about PC gaming.

I believe in Console exclusivity, end of story.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

PC is not in the console war so if agame is coming out on one particular console then it a big coup for that console.

PC gaming is at a decline anyway thats why most PC games are making there way to consoles like UT3. I'm sure Crysis will one day be on a console.

-Sora

I guess since Capcom has begun porting all their games to the PC, Console gaming is on a decline.

BTW: do you really think Mass Effect and GEOW wont be on the PC eventually?

not anytime soon

there was already a leaked screenshot of the PC box for GEOW. Not to mention Epic has guarenteed it.

and Kotar was ported in only a few months.

PC is not in the console war so if agame is coming out on one particular console then it a big coup for that console.

PC gaming is at a decline anyway thats why most PC games are making there way to consoles like UT3. I'm sure Crysis will one day be on a console.

Swift_Boss_A

And by then it'll be considered dated, same as every other gen.

And honestly, just try to fight a console war using console exclusivity as an argument. Expect a perfectly valid counterpoint stating that the game is also on PC, so it's meaningless, every single time.

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

PC is not in the console war so if agame is coming out on one particular console then it a big coup for that console.

PC gaming is at a decline anyway thats why most PC games are making there way to consoles like UT3. I'm sure Crysis will one day be on a console.

Swift_Boss_A

true but the majority of system wars topics are based on console games, there are like only 1 or 2 topics in a million which are about PC gaming.

I believe in Console exclusivity, end of story.

[QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

PC is not in the console war so if agame is coming out on one particular console then it a big coup for that console.

PC gaming is at a decline anyway thats why most PC games are making there way to consoles like UT3. I'm sure Crysis will one day be on a console.

cobrax25

I guess since Capcom has begun porting all their games to the PC, Console gaming is on a decline.

BTW: do you really think Mass Effect and GEOW wont be on the PC eventually?

not anytime soon

there was already a leaked screenshot of the PC box for GEOW. Not to mention Epic has guarenteed it.

and Kotar was ported in only a few months.

Leaked boxarts by fans, and Boiware said they havent considered porting to the PC and if they do it will be after the trilogy ends on the 360.

i agree... there is a such thing is console excusitivity... WHY? because pc gaming and console gaming are two seperate markets catering to two different type of consumers. farhan007

thats what i'm talking about. 100% agree

PC is not in the console war so if agame is coming out on one particular console then it a big coup for that console.

PC gaming is at a decline anyway thats why most PC games are making there way to consoles like UT3. I'm sure Crysis will one day be on a console.

Swift_Boss_A

i agree... there is a such thing is console excusitivity... WHY? because pc gaming and console gaming are two seperate markets catering to two different type of consumers. farhan007

If you're using that argument, you can just as well say that different consoles cater to very different types of consumers. I mean, you're going by the games available to the systems, right?

[QUOTE="farhan007"]i agree... there is a such thing is console excusitivity... WHY? because pc gaming and console gaming are two seperate markets catering to two different type of consumers. Swift_Boss_A

thats what i'm talking about. 100% agree

[QUOTE="farhan007"]i agree... there is a such thing is console excusitivity... WHY? because pc gaming and console gaming are two seperate markets catering to two different type of consumers. Swift_Boss_A

thats what i'm talking about. 100% agree

diffrent type of cousmers :roll:

if its on pc the same game on 360 ITS MUTLIPLATFROM

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

[QUOTE="farhan007"]i agree... there is a such thing is console excusitivity... WHY? because pc gaming and console gaming are two seperate markets catering to two different type of consumers. lettuceman44

thats what i'm talking about. 100% agree

:o your so right :o all wii games are exclusive :D

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

They're multiplatform.

The term console exclusive is damage control used to eliminate a platform to create some kind of illusionary first place to claim ownage over other console fans.

Overthrow

pc gaming is a small market. console exclusivity is very important considering nintendo, microsoft and sony are not competing with pcs.

in truth, its a double edged blade. a game is not exclusive period if it can be found elsewhere. conversely, the denial of the importance of console exclusivity is damage control also.

That's ridiculous. PC gaming is a larger market than any of the current gen consoles, none of which have sold much more than 10 million. There are PC games that have sold more than that (the Sims, for example).

Now tell me how pc's are out there compared to 360's and ps3's that can run crysis smoothly?

[QUOTE="Overthrow"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

They're multiplatform.

The term console exclusive is damage control used to eliminate a platform to create some kind of illusionary first place to claim ownage over other console fans.

farhan007

pc gaming is a small market. console exclusivity is very important considering nintendo, microsoft and sony are not competing with pcs.

in truth, its a double edged blade. a game is not exclusive period if it can be found elsewhere. conversely, the denial of the importance of console exclusivity is damage control also.

That's ridiculous. PC gaming is a larger market than any of the current gen consoles, none of which have sold much more than 10 million. There are PC games that have sold more than that (the Sims, for example).

Now tell me how pc's are out there compared to 360's and ps3's that can run crysis smoothly?

More than enough, considering consoles aren't even close to being able to run Crysis. If you're going to compare specs, compare the number of PCs that can play 360 or PS3 games. Quite a lot, I would think.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

PC is not in the console war so if agame is coming out on one particular console then it a big coup for that console.

PC gaming is at a decline anyway thats why most PC games are making there way to consoles like UT3. I'm sure Crysis will one day be on a console.

-Sora

I guess since Capcom has begun porting all their games to the PC, Console gaming is on a decline.

BTW: do you really think Mass Effect and GEOW wont be on the PC eventually?

not anytime soon

there was already a leaked screenshot of the PC box for GEOW. Not to mention Epic has guarenteed it.

and Kotar was ported in only a few months.

Leaked boxarts by fans, and Boiware said they havent considered porting to the PC and if they do it will be after the trilogy ends on the 360.

Actually it wasnt leaked or made by fans, it came from PC gamer Magazine, the ironic thing was...the article wasnt even about GEOW....it was about Games for Windows.

furthermore.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/07/nvidia-drivers-leak-potential-pc-gears-of-war/

"console exclusive" has to be one of the most ignorant things that people say on these boards.. that only falls next to the "Wii is killing hardcore gaming" argument... >_>DA_B0MB

Muhahah

[QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

PC is not in the console war so if agame is coming out on one particular console then it a big coup for that console.

PC gaming is at a decline anyway thats why most PC games are making there way to consoles like UT3. I'm sure Crysis will one day be on a console.

cobrax25

I guess since Capcom has begun porting all their games to the PC, Console gaming is on a decline.

BTW: do you really think Mass Effect and GEOW wont be on the PC eventually?

not anytime soon

there was already a leaked screenshot of the PC box for GEOW. Not to mention Epic has guarenteed it.

and Kotar was ported in only a few months.

Leaked boxarts by fans, and Boiware said they havent considered porting to the PC and if they do it will be after the trilogy ends on the 360.

Actually it wasnt leaked or made by fans, it came from PC gamer Magazine, the ironic thing was...the article wasnt even about GEOW....it was about Games for Windows.

furthermore.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/07/nvidia-drivers-leak-potential-pc-gears-of-war/

Interesting....

[QUOTE="farhan007"][QUOTE="Overthrow"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

They're multiplatform.

The term console exclusive is damage control used to eliminate a platform to create some kind of illusionary first place to claim ownage over other console fans.

Overthrow

pc gaming is a small market. console exclusivity is very important considering nintendo, microsoft and sony are not competing with pcs.

in truth, its a double edged blade. a game is not exclusive period if it can be found elsewhere. conversely, the denial of the importance of console exclusivity is damage control also.

That's ridiculous. PC gaming is a larger market than any of the current gen consoles, none of which have sold much more than 10 million. There are PC games that have sold more than that (the Sims, for example).

Now tell me how pc's are out there compared to 360's and ps3's that can run crysis smoothly?

More than enough, considering consoles aren't even close to being able to run Crysis. If you're going to compare specs, compare the number of PCs that can play 360 or PS3 games. Quite a lot, I would think.

And last... go to a setting where you would see plenty of casuals or non gamers.... For example i currently work at radio shack... My fellow employees and I always have casual conversations about video games, sports, girls etc.... They know about halo 3, they know about the games on the ps3 and the 360, but they have no damn clue what the hell hellgate london is or what crysis is(two of the biggest games comming for the pc). They also have no damn clue what direct x 10 is.

There are more casuals than hardcore gamers and none of the care a rats ass what crysis is or what direct x 10 is. If you think pc gaming is a bigger industry you FAIL. Its all about supply and demand, and walking into a eb games store you can see the demand for pc gaming(virtualy NONE). There is literally ONE SHELF of pc games and accesories.

lol....

Its estimated that 16 million DX10 cards will be sold this year....

lol....

Its estimated that 16 million DX10 cards will be sold this year....

cobrax25