Another NX Rumor: More Powerful Than PS4, Multiple Controller Types, HDMI 2.0a/4K, No Handheld, Console Name, More

Okay, so we have yet another NX leak. This one is also from Reddit, but it seems incredibly legitimate- generally speaking, nothing is said here that is wrong from a technology perspective, and the console, as described, sounds sensible.

The actual Reddit thread is long and massive, and it can be a pain to go through, so I will share some of the most important information here:

• The console is "more powerful than a PS4, but these things are naturally hard to quantify, there are so many things to keep track of. I will say, there is no single metric where the console is weaker than the PS4. At worst it matches it. Development is extremely easy, no obvious bottlenecks on the hardware."
  • It is more powerful than the PS4 by any sensible metric. Overall, it is at least slightly more powerful
  • 12GB RAM, only 6GB seems to be usable right now
  • 1TB embedded HDD, pretty sure this is not the case for the consumer version, though
  • Multiple USB 3.0 ports
  • The console is not x86
• The console is 'the most powerful console' this developer has worked on
• The console has an HDMI 2.0a port, and 4k output is 'theoretically possible'
• Right now, the console uses discs. Nintendo Optical Discs, 25GB per layer. Dual layer discs are specified, but are unavailable right now
• Games install to the hard disc
• Nintendo has pushed heavily for online, and currently, their online network is on par with the competition in terms of features set
• Nintendo has its own take on Achievements. Apparently they are called 'Missions,' and getting them earns you credit to spend in the eShop (this part is unclear)
• There is no gimmick to the console. Nintendo has lied about the console when they said that it will be 'a new way to play.' According to this developer, the console is the most powerful console ever made. "there is no 'new way to play,' that's just marketing speak. It's a fairly traditional console with some sensible evolutions. From what I can gather about targeted specifications for the retail release, I think Nintendo may have some AR gimmicks, but they are definitely not the central point of the console to the best of my knowledge."
  • "If the PS4.5 is real, I think it and the NX should be reasonably matched."
• Connectivity with smart devices seems to be a central point here- the NX can pull your profile off of your smartphone, and also connect directly to them and interact with them as apps, or for second screen gaming.
• There is a mysterious 'EXT' port, but the developer is unclear what it is for.
• Nintendo has far better outreach for third parties this time than they have had before.
• The console's final name has been decided- it's an all new brand, and apparently, while 'Nintendo' is part of the name, it can be ignored- so a lot like the Nintendo DS and Nintendo 3DS names. The name is 'far more marketable' than Wii U.
• The OS seems to be using 6GB of RAM right now. It seems to be mostly fast, and fully multitaskable.
• The console is definitely due out by the end of this year.
• A reveal of the console is planned in Q2 2016.
• No backwards compatibility with either Wii U or Nintendo 3DS (at least not on a native hardware level).
• The console supports at least two separate kinds of controllers- a standard controller, mostly like a Wii U Pro, but with analog triggers, and scroll wheels for bumpers, and another controller, with an embedded touchscreen. The touchscreen controller looks like a stretched Wii U Pro with a screen in the center. The screen is capacitive and 1080p.
  • Both controllers have localized haptic feedback (i.e. if you are playing a shooter and you are shot from the left, only the left side of the controller rumbles)
  • The screen is not freeform.It is a simple rectangular screen.
  • The second screen seems to be very de-emphasized. It seems to exist only for Remote Play, and for inventory and UI purposes
  • "There is nothing in the documentation that seems to indicate that one is more default than the other."
  • Up to eight controllers can be paired with the console at a time.
• As of right now, there is no news of the handheld. If it exists, Nintendo has not shown it off to this specific developer. One is planned, but nothing concrete on it actually exists.

So... that's that. It seems to be fairly grounded, and it also corroborates a lot of other leaks. It also sounds absolutely perfect- and with this being the third leak to ultimately reinforce a lot of these same points, it sounds like Nintendo's next console might actually be one that brings them back in the game!

What do you all think?

But is this console more powerful than PS4.5? :p

"If the PS4.5 is real, I think it and the NX should be reasonably matched."

6gb for the OS?

lolwat

Sounds good, people always see Nintendo console as the weakest one, it's not funny if this console will be weaker than PS4.5 and Xbox 1.5. Any news about launch titles?

There is no way they get less than 8GB.

Please stop with this crap. Again 'slightly more powerful than PS4' so it should have come out 3 years ago is that what you're saying?

If these rumours are true it will be another junk console from Nintendo designed to make people buy every version of Mario and Zelda yet again.

Stronger than competitor hardware from Nintendo = fake

Yeah, that's a whole lot of what.

Then again, the Wii U OS was 1GB, and the XB1 OS is 3GB, so I mean... okay, 6GB is still a lot. I suppose Nintendo are just really bad at developing an OS.

The developer could (would) only talk about his own game.

Just like the N64 and Gamecube were fake?

I mean hey, it sounds like it's more on par with PS4K and XB1E than the PS4 and XB1, and it is also launching at the same time as them, so... what's the problem?

Unimaginable! More powerful than 3 years old console that was already outdated when it launched?

@MonsieurX said:

Unimaginable! More powerful than 3 years old console that was already outdated when it launched?

• The console is "more powerful than a PS4, but these things are naturally hard to quantify, there are so many things to keep track of. I will say, there is no single metric where the console is weaker than the PS4. At worst it matches it. Development is extremely easy, no obvious bottlenecks on the hardware."

Don't count on it.

Nintendo is a very cheap company and will have a $100 budget for the BOM.

I expect it to be stronger than the Xbone because Nintendo is stealing SONY's PS4 SoC technology, but it'll be weaker than the PS4 because Nintendo can't match Cerny's genius.

@notafanboy said:

@MonsieurX said:

Unimaginable! More powerful than 3 years old console that was already outdated when it launched?

• The console is "more powerful than a PS4, but these things are naturally hard to quantify, there are so many things to keep track of. I will say, there is no single metric where the console is weaker than the PS4. At worst it matches it. Development is extremely easy, no obvious bottlenecks on the hardware."

Don't count on it.

Nintendo is a very cheap company and will have a $100 budget for the BOM.

I expect it to be stronger than the Xbone because Nintendo is stealing SONY's PS4 SoC technology, but it'll be weaker than the PS4 because Nintendo can't match Cerny's genius.

Sure,we all believe your theory.

You should ask Cerny to marry you

Every time NX comes up it's always 'slightly more powerful than PS4' how does that put it in line with PS4K? It's a 'me too' PS4 but with kids games and three years after the event. Nintendo would really be much better off without these rumours circulating assuming they actually have a decent console on the way instead of just a 'catch up' PS4.

April Fools! I'm not believing any of this.

@blueinheaven: The leak flat out says that it would be evenly matched to PS4K lol

1st April fools

It was actually posted a while ago (and the NX subreddit seems to be on lockdown, so you'd need to be at least a legitimate poster to be able to make a new thread there)

So much this:

@charizard1605: NX will be evenly matched to PS4K lol, genuine lol, I doubt it will get anywhere near standard PS4.

You don't need modern technology for kids. Nintendo understands that better than anyone.

6gb of ram for OS

Mother of god...

Stop it. All of the reddit posts are fake. However, a verified actual developer (though one without an NX dev kit) confirmed that all rumors are false and NX is just a handheld much weaker than XBox One. That is thread-worthy, not this. Where are the mods?

EDIT: ... Oh. Well... Wow... Excuse me...

The problem is, Nintendo's goal isn't to aim at kids. Their goal is to aim at everyone, including kids. They want to be the go-to console for everybody, like they used to be.

We have literally no way to know what is true and what is fake. Believing that developer, who has already bitched before about not knowing what the NX is, seems to be a pretty bad idea to me.

That hyperbole tho

Now where playing with power.

He most likely got info between now and then. Why would he lie? What would he gain other than looking like an idiot once it's revealed? He clearly got this information directly from another developer and he has no doubt that it's true. i see no reason to believe some random guy on Reddit over him. If he's unreliable to you, so should all of the Reddit "leakers." They're all there to gain fame after the controller hoax, and you just gave this one some. Good job.

Again, sounds promising... but waiting for official info obviously.

Although no backwards compatibility is disappointing.

I shared this because it was fairly detailed. The Ori developer posted one conditional tentative post, without any follow up. I would believe the developer if I knew he actually had his hands on the development hardware, but we know he doesn't, and he has not actively clarified that he does either.

In the end, the Ori developer's statement is also just a rumor, the same as this- you can choose to start a thread over it if you feel it needs some time in the sun. I personally would be more inclined to believe him if he didn't have a history of acting like a crybaby over the NX.

This is actually the best thing they could have done, sticking to PowerPC again would have been suicide.

12GB's could be for Devkits only and the actual console ships with 8GB's.

Yay!!! Gimmicks aren't the focus!!!!

Looks like I'll be getting a Nintendo console finally after being absent for 2 generations.

Wouldn't make sense if the OS takes up 6GB

@charizard1605:

No way in hell is the Nintendo's OS gonna take that much more memory than the XB1's. That would be one hell of an inefficient design.

That's a head scratcher itself.

Nintendo are known for inefficient OS designs.

No, what? The Wii U's rumored RAM was 1GB, the 2GB RAM actually turned out to be a surprise.

It's definitely a problem- why does the OS need 6GB?!?!?

so we're going along with more powerful now rumours...okay.. & 6GB for OS??? who comes up with this..that's is some really bad programming..

No gimmicks - different way to play??..hmm I'll believe it when I see it.

Next!!!.. :P

Perhaps they just have 6GB's allocated, but maybe only 3 - 3.5GB's of that are actually being used for the OS. I would just be in awe if the final product required 6GB's just for the OS.

Actually, assuming the console has some recording function similar to PS4 and Xbox One, do you think they could theoretically have 3GB for the OS, 3GB for that? And another 6GB for games?

@rakadewa19: the N64 was more powerful than Playstation and I think more than a SAturn ... GC was more powerful than a PS2 but less than a Xbox ... in both situation it didn't help it at all

April Fools, I don't believe this shit.

We know Nintendo's stance on the recording and sharing of their content (See Youtube). I don't see them implementing a share function like the PS4.

It was posted way before April Fool's, and the NX subreddit is on lockdown to prevent fake leaks. If it got through, then there is some legitimacy to it.

12gb is less than I expected, but maybe it doesn't need more. No way it has just 8 in 2016, ram's the cheapest part of a console. And yet people think it's the most for some reason

I would imagine if it has 12gb, that 6gb allocation will shrink a lot by launch time. If not, damn that is ridiculous. I just don't understand why all these consoles have extremely bloated OS when windows uses less.

I mean, it's clear they are changing their stance on a lot of things, so why not this too? They already implemented this feature on a per game basis on Wii U with Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros. 4.

@charizard1605: Yeah I don't know what the hell they'd need an os like that for if there's no streaming functionality built in

Wii U came out 7 yrs after the 360 and only had 2x the amount of ram for game development. So I wouldn't put it past them to release a console 3 yrs later with only equal the amount of ram as the competition.