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[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]For **** sake Don't you people see he's just trolling? He makes ONE post and then leaves, of course he doesn't mean all this....tarzanell
Nope, wasn't trolling, just a genuine concern when I first laid eyes on the trailer this morning.
I think you guys all have good points (and no, my name is not "Tarzan," lord of the jungle style); to be honest, playing through RE4 on the cube, racism never entered my mind even once. So why is this different to me (remember, this is IMO, not anyone else's)? I put it down to the fact that the protagonist is Mr. Midwest America, going abroad and laying waste to the villagers defending their town (even if "zombified," but let's try to read between the lines here).
The US has pretty much no history of laying seige to small Spanish towns in the woods....can the same be said for Afro-Caribbean villages?
These are just my thoughts here, don't flame me for having an opinion.
RE5 will most likely not have any connections to what you are refering to.
So it's okay to kill people then?Maybe I've just missed this in another thread, but I'm having serious issues respecting RE5 for what it represents. The world, and the US in particular, really has no need to have their 15 year olds pretending to be a white guy demolishing Afro-Caribbeans for being "infected" or whatever the term will be this time around.
I'm a huge fan of the series thus far, but this turn is just wrong IMO.
What do you guys think?
tarzanell
Maybe I've just missed this in another thread, but I'm having serious issues respecting RE5 for what it represents. The world, and the US in particular, really has no need to have their 15 year olds pretending to be a white guy demolishing Afro-Caribbeans for being "infected" or whatever the term will be this time around.
I'm a huge fan of the series thus far, but this turn is just wrong IMO.
What do you guys think?
tarzanell
I''m black and I'm laughing because its just a video game that is set in africa, right? Who is he suppose to shoot Asians?
We are all equal, we are all the same, you will shoot any race, whether he/she be black, blue or yellow because he/she is infected.
The End!
Maybe I've just missed this in another thread, but I'm having serious issues respecting RE5 for what it represents. The world, and the US in particular, really has no need to have their 15 year olds pretending to be a white guy demolishing Afro-Caribbeans for being "infected" or whatever the term will be this time around.
I'm a huge fan of the series thus far, but this turn is just wrong IMO.
What do you guys think?
tarzanell
[QUOTE="tarzanell"]Maybe I've just missed this in another thread, but I'm having serious issues respecting RE5 for what it represents. The world, and the US in particular, really has no need to have their 15 year olds pretending to be a white guy demolishing Afro-Caribbeans for being "infected" or whatever the term will be this time around.
I'm a huge fan of the series thus far, but this turn is just wrong IMO.
What do you guys think?
ff7isnumbaone
I''m black and I'm laughing because its just a video game that is setting in africa, right? Who is he suppose to shoot Asians?
I was thinking the same thing. I guess he should head to South Africa where there are some white peopleto shoot. Or Canada eh?:P
(BTW I'm Canadian)
ironic that the OP calls RE 5 racist yet his comments as to why have very racist undertones.6matt6
What the hell? "yet his comments as to why have" makes no sense. I will respond to your criticism once you are able to form a coherent sentence.
Tell me where I am being racist. A white guy from the states is invading a country and shooting a bunch of natives of another ethnicity. Given the world's HISTORY, many people will LIKELY have a propensity to view it as racist on behalf of the game developers.
So tell me how that's being racist. Come on, TELL ME.
[QUOTE="6matt6"]ironic that the OP calls RE 5 racist yet his comments as to why have very racist undertones.tarzanell
What the hell? "yet his comments as to why have" makes no sense. I will respond to your criticism once you are able to form a coherent sentence.
Tell me where I am being racist. A white guy from the states is invading a country and shooting a bunch of natives of another ethnicity. Given the world's HISTORY, many people will LIKELY have a propensity to view it as racist on behalf of the game developers.
So tell me how that's being racist. Come on, TELL ME.
Its a game! Its not real! The people are injected or something just like every other RE!
[QUOTE="6matt6"]ironic that the OP calls RE 5 racist yet his comments as to why have very racist undertones.tarzanell
What the hell? "yet his comments as to why have" makes no sense. I will respond to your criticism once you are able to form a coherent sentence.
Tell me where I am being racist. A white guy from the states is invading a country and shooting a bunch of natives of another ethnicity. Given the world's HISTORY, many people will LIKELY have a propensity to view it as racist on behalf of the game developers.
So tell me how that's being racist. Come on, TELL ME.
how exactly is he 'invading' this country.
black guys cant be shot because they are black or because of their history with whites. you may not mean that but that is pretty racist.
There are so many people who have just completely missed the point here entirely. "It's not racist that's so stupid!" It's not racist - racism is the act of hatred based on race - the point is that you are playing as white guy, gunning down hordes of incredibly realistic poverty-stricken black people who dont look anywhere near enough like zombies. It's harrowing, and feels uncomfortable to watch. Like the TC said, 15 year old americans dont need to be playing this sort of thing.Ninja-Vox
i guess 15 year olds from any other country are fine to play this game?
There are so many people who have just completely missed the point here entirely. "It's not racist that's so stupid!" It's not racist - racism is the act of hatred based on race - the point is that you are playing as white guy, gunning down hordes of incredibly realistic poverty-stricken black people who dont look anywhere near enough like zombies. It's harrowing, and feels uncomfortable to watch. Like the TC said, 15 year old americans dont need to be playing this sort of thing.Ninja-Vox
You honestly make a valid point... but at the end of the day it's still just a VG. Until we know more about the story we should reserve judgement on it. But for me personally.. I don't find it offensive because I know the series and I know that other games are similar in that regard, only using different ethnicities.
[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]There are so many people who have just completely missed the point here entirely. "It's not racist that's so stupid!" It's not racist - racism is the act of hatred based on race - the point is that you are playing as white guy, gunning down hordes of incredibly realistic poverty-stricken black people who dont look anywhere near enough like zombies. It's harrowing, and feels uncomfortable to watch. Like the TC said, 15 year old americans dont need to be playing this sort of thing.6matt6
i guess 15 year olds from any other country are fine to play this game?
I dont know the attitudes of people in other countries. I fail to see any point in your post. Mine was simply that western kids are racist enough as it is without games like this.
Unless you're a self-hating politically correct loser, you would just play the game and not whine about black people being in a game that takes place in Africa. Who the hell did you think you were gonna fight? Some of you people make me wonder. Just wow.V_Isle
Wow indeed....being politically correct = being a loser? Mentioning concern regarding the depiction of black people being killed en masse by a white guy = whining? Riiiiiight...
This is obviously a waste of all our time, so I'm out of here. Enjoy your "omg Wii will phail (56k)" & "xxxx game is overrated!!!1" threads.
[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]There are so many people who have just completely missed the point here entirely. "It's not racist that's so stupid!" It's not racist - racism is the act of hatred based on race - the point is that you are playing as white guy, gunning down hordes of incredibly realistic poverty-stricken black people who dont look anywhere near enough like zombies. It's harrowing, and feels uncomfortable to watch. Like the TC said, 15 year old americans dont need to be playing this sort of thing.Ninja-Vox
i guess 15 year olds from any other country are fine to play this game?
I dont know the attitudes of people in other countries. I fail to see any point in your post. Mine was simply that western kids are racist enough as it is without games like this.
Everyone is alittle racist... or I guess a better term would be indifferent at times about others from different backgrounds.
[QUOTE="tarzanell"]So it's okay to kill people then?Maybe I've just missed this in another thread, but I'm having serious issues respecting RE5 for what it represents. The world, and the US in particular, really has no need to have their 15 year olds pretending to be a white guy demolishing Afro-Caribbeans for being "infected" or whatever the term will be this time around.
I'm a huge fan of the series thus far, but this turn is just wrong IMO.
What do you guys think?
H3llstrike
Exactly. All of these people who find small issues with completely stupid things are just ignoring a larger issue, such as this. "Oh no, the white guy killed a black guy! That's racist!" whereas they are completely missing the fact that tons of killings are happening.
These threads should be ignored... not continued on for 6+ pages of nothingness.
[QUOTE="V_Isle"]Unless you're a self-hating politically correct loser, you would just play the game and not whine about black people being in a game that takes place in Africa. Who the hell did you think you were gonna fight? Some of you people make me wonder. Just wow.tarzanell
Wow indeed....being politically correct = being a loser? Mentioning concern regarding the depiction of black people being killed en masse by a white guy = whining? Riiiiiight...
This is obviously a waste of all our time, so I'm out of here. Enjoy your "omg Wii will phail (56k)" & "xxxx game is overrated!!!1" threads.
Wow, are you that upset?
The color of their skin should not matter. It's just a man shooting other men/women.
You're being racist for thinking its racist.
[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]There are so many people who have just completely missed the point here entirely. "It's not racist that's so stupid!" It's not racist - racism is the act of hatred based on race - the point is that you are playing as white guy, gunning down hordes of incredibly realistic poverty-stricken black people who dont look anywhere near enough like zombies. It's harrowing, and feels uncomfortable to watch. Like the TC said,15 year old americans dont need to be playing this sort of thing.Ninja-Vox
i guess 15 year olds from any other country are fine to play this game?
I dont know the attitudes of people in other countries. I fail to see any point in your post. Mine was simply that western kids are racist enough as it is without games like this.
broad and bold assumption on your part. not every 15 year old is going to be racist.
how is shooting africans different to shooitng Nazis, spainards, mexicans etc etc etc. The point is, even without this game racism will exist and will continue to exist for a long time.
Exactly. All of these people who find small issues with completely stupid things are just ignoring a larger issue, such as this. "Oh no, the white guy killed a black guy! That's racist!" whereas they are completely missing the fact that tons of killings are happening.
These threads should be ignored... not continued on for 6+ pages of nothingness.
ParkCarsHere
Again, you've just completely missed the point. These threads should not be ignored. If anything posts like that should be ignored. It's not about a white guy shooting a black guy at all. Ever played GTA? Happens all the time. It's about a white guy gunning down large numbers of poverty stricken african men and women who dont look nearly enough like zombies.
Sheesh....
[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]There are so many people who have just completely missed the point here entirely. "It's not racist that's so stupid!" It's not racist - racism is the act of hatred based on race - the point is that you are playing as white guy, gunning down hordes of incredibly realistic poverty-stricken black people who dont look anywhere near enough like zombies. It's harrowing, and feels uncomfortable to watch. Like the TC said, 15 year old americans dont need to be playing this sort of thing.OhSnapitz
You honestly make a valid point... but at the end of the day it's still just a VG. Until we know more about the story we should reserve judgement on it. But for me personally.. I don't find it offensive because I know the series and I know that other games are similar in that regard, only using different ethnicities.
i dont think he makes a valid point he says himself racism is the act of hatred based on race....wheres the hatred in this game? its a survival horror game the main character doesnt "hate" anything :S
[QUOTE="ParkCarsHere"]Exactly. All of these people who find small issues with completely stupid things are just ignoring a larger issue, such as this. "Oh no, the white guy killed a black guy! That's racist!" whereas they are completely missing the fact that tons of killings are happening.
These threads should be ignored... not continued on for 6+ pages of nothingness.
Ninja-Vox
Again, you've just completely missed the point. These threads should not be ignored. If anything posts like that should be ignored. It's not about a white guy shooting a black guy at all. Ever played GTA? Happens all the time. It's about a white guy gunning down large numbers of poverty stricken african men and women who dont look nearly enough like zombies.
Sheesh....
Seriously...its a game...where the ppl are infected...dont you understand RE at all?
[QUOTE="ParkCarsHere"]Exactly. All of these people who find small issues with completely stupid things are just ignoring a larger issue, such as this. "Oh no, the white guy killed a black guy! That's racist!" whereas they are completely missing the fact that tons of killings are happening.
These threads should be ignored... not continued on for 6+ pages of nothingness.
Ninja-Vox
Again, you've just completely missed the point. These threads should not be ignored. If anything posts like that should be ignored. It's not about a white guy shooting a black guy at all. Ever played GTA? Happens all the time. It's about a white guy gunning down large numbers of poverty stricken african men and women who dont look nearly enough like zombies.
Sheesh....
So I guess the issue comes in at the fact that the game looks so damn real... And the residents (of evil...LOL) don't look like grey-ish zoombies with their clothes/Flesh falling off.. eh?
Didn't they say the game takes place in Africa? Because if they did last I check there is a lot more black skin people in Africa than anywheres else. If he was fighting in a Africa village and put people of different colors than the game would not look correct. HarlockJC
You know what's hee-larious? If there weren't black people in the game, you'd have people saying it's racist for depicting Africa unrealistically. "OMG IT TAEKS PLACE IN AFRIKA BUT DERES NO BLACK PEOPLE IS RACIST GAMES BAN IT PLZ". PC whimps will always have something to cry about. Pathetic, really. :roll:
[QUOTE="ParkCarsHere"]Exactly. All of these people who find small issues with completely stupid things are just ignoring a larger issue, such as this. "Oh no, the white guy killed a black guy! That's racist!" whereas they are completely missing the fact that tons of killings are happening.
These threads should be ignored... not continued on for 6+ pages of nothingness.
Ninja-Vox
Again, you've just completely missed the point. These threads should not be ignored. If anything posts like that should be ignored. It's not about a white guy shooting a black guy at all. Ever played GTA? Happens all the time. It's about a white guy gunning down large numbers of poverty stricken african men and women who dont look nearly enough like zombies.
Sheesh....
you have a hordes of people trying to kill you, its either kill or be killed.(just so happens that most of the horde is black).
I'm sure if you had a horde of black folk trying to kill you, you would sit there and go 'i cant shoot you, it maybe seen as racist'. I can safely say that Chris will be killing people because he is protecting himself NOT because they are black,African or whatever.
broad and bold assumption on your part. not every 15 year old is going to be racist.
how is shooting africans different to shooitng Nazis, spainards, mexicans etc etc etc. The point is, even without this game racism will exist and will continue to exist for a long time.
6matt6
I'm sorry; did i say every 15 year old in existance is racist? What assumption have i made? Did you not just say that? Because lord knows i didn't.
Also, you make another non-point. Without this game racism will still exist? Did anyone say it wouldn't? Honestly, what are you talking about? And how is it different from Nazis? Again, another completely irrelevant point. German is not a race. It is a country. Call of Duty depicts a war which actually happened, nations fighting amongst each other. Race doesn't come into it.
And once again; the point is not white guy shooting black guy. It's white guy gunning down mass numbers of povery stricken black men and women who look nothing like zombies at all.
[QUOTE="6matt6"]broad and bold assumption on your part. not every 15 year old is going to be racist.
how is shooting africans different to shooitng Nazis, spainards, mexicans etc etc etc. The point is, even without this game racism will exist and will continue to exist for a long time.
Ninja-Vox
I'm sorry; did i say every 15 year old in existance is racist? What assumption have i made? Did you not just say that? Because lord knows i didn't.
Also, you make another non-point. Without this game racism will still exist? Did anyone say it wouldn't? Honestly, what are you talking about? And how is it different from Nazis? Again, another completely irrelevant point. German is not a race. It is a country. Call of Duty depicts a war which actually happened, nations fighting amongst each other. Race doesn't come into it.
And once again; the point is not white guy shooting black guy. It's white guy gunning down mass numbers of povery stricken black men and women who look nothing like zombies at all.
when Chris is gunning these people down because they ARE black. Then i would consider it racist.
'15 year olds are racist enough without playing this game'. i believe you said something to that effect.
you have a hordes of people trying to kill you, its either kill or be killed.(just so happens that most of the horde is black).
I'm sure if you had a horde of black folk trying to kill you, you would sit there and go 'i cant shoot you, it maybe seen as racist'. I can safely say that Chris will be killing people because he is protecting himself NOT because they are black,African or whatever.
6matt6
Thanks again captain obvious. Again, i made a point of saying that nobody claims the object of the game is to kill these people because they're black.
The simple fact here is that you are a white guy, gunning down hordes of black men and women who dont appear to have anything seriously wrong with them. If they were grotesque zombies, or monsters a la previous games i'm sure it wouldn't sting so much. The fact is however, that watching that trailer without prior knowledge that it's about a zombie infestation showcases a game in which you gun down black people. It's about the connotations and the discomfort that such an image brings. Not just "zomg white guy shot a black guy!11"
[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]There are so many people who have just completely missed the point here entirely. "It's not racist that's so stupid!" It's not racist - racism is the act of hatred based on race - the point is that you are playing as white guy, gunning down hordes of incredibly realistic poverty-stricken black people who dont look anywhere near enough like zombies. It's harrowing, and feels uncomfortable to watch. Like the TC said, 15 year old americans dont need to be playing this sort of thing.slikonebtz
You honestly make a valid point... but at the end of the day it's still just a VG. Until we know more about the story we should reserve judgement on it. But for me personally.. I don't find it offensive because I know the series and I know that other games are similar in that regard, only using different ethnicities.
i dont think he makes a valid point he says himself racism is the act of hatred based on race....wheres the hatred in this game? its a survival horror game the main character doesnt "hate" anything :S
I don't think he's calling the game "racist"... I think he's simply stating that the dipiction of VERY realistic looking Hatians/Aficans in this game being killed will bring up concerns. And he's right... To the non-gamer that see's this game running at a friends house or a kiosk.. They'll take one look at it and say RACIST!!! This issue isn't going away people...
[QUOTE="ParkCarsHere"]Exactly. All of these people who find small issues with completely stupid things are just ignoring a larger issue, such as this. "Oh no, the white guy killed a black guy! That's racist!" whereas they are completely missing the fact that tons of killings are happening.
These threads should be ignored... not continued on for 6+ pages of nothingness.
Ninja-Vox
Again, you've just completely missed the point. These threads should not be ignored. If anything posts like that should be ignored. It's not about a white guy shooting a black guy at all. Ever played GTA? Happens all the time. It's about a white guy gunning down large numbers of poverty stricken african men and women who dont look nearly enough like zombies.
Sheesh....
You're being completely illogical. People like you are the reason that gaming is becoming the way it is and games are starting to be banned, or something else. Did you play RE4? The same thing happened. You were killing people who didn't look like zombies at all, at least in the beginning of the game when they didn't have huge things sprouting out of their heads.
I don't want to be modded again, so I'm just going to keep my personal hatred for you at a minimum. Please stop posting. Please? Nobody likes your arguments and they don't even make sense. Use all this negative energy towards gaming and put it towards something constructive and make the world a better place, or something.
[QUOTE="slikonebtz"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]There are so many people who have just completely missed the point here entirely. "It's not racist that's so stupid!" It's not racist - racism is the act of hatred based on race - the point is that you are playing as white guy, gunning down hordes of incredibly realistic poverty-stricken black people who dont look anywhere near enough like zombies. It's harrowing, and feels uncomfortable to watch. Like the TC said, 15 year old americans dont need to be playing this sort of thing.OhSnapitz
You honestly make a valid point... but at the end of the day it's still just a VG. Until we know more about the story we should reserve judgement on it. But for me personally.. I don't find it offensive because I know the series and I know that other games are similar in that regard, only using different ethnicities.
i dont think he makes a valid point he says himself racism is the act of hatred based on race....wheres the hatred in this game? its a survival horror game the main character doesnt "hate" anything :S
I don't think he's calling the game "racist"... I think he's simply stating that the dipiction of VERY realistic looking Hatians/Aficans in this game being killed will bring up concerns. And he's right... To the non-gamer that see's this game running at a friends house or a kiosk.. They'll take one look at it and say RACIST!!! This issue isn't going away people...
No they wont! That's not the point. Anyone who walks in is going to be "Sweet game! Can I play?". NORMAL people realize that games are made for fun, and Resident Evil 5 is not being racist or anything. They could have just as easily put it in another ethnic background and then you would just be complaining about that too, since that seems to be what you do - complain.
when Chris is gunning these people down because they ARE black. Then i would consider it racist.
'15 year olds are racist enough without playing this game'. i believe you said something to that effect.
6matt6
I think you know as well as i do that you have common sense enough to understand that i'm not claiming every single 15 year old in existance is a racist. Or in future do i have to put (but not all of them obviously...) in brackets for you?
[QUOTE="slikonebtz"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]There are so many people who have just completely missed the point here entirely. "It's not racist that's so stupid!" It's not racist - racism is the act of hatred based on race - the point is that you are playing as white guy, gunning down hordes of incredibly realistic poverty-stricken black people who dont look anywhere near enough like zombies. It's harrowing, and feels uncomfortable to watch. Like the TC said, 15 year old americans dont need to be playing this sort of thing.OhSnapitz
You honestly make a valid point... but at the end of the day it's still just a VG. Until we know more about the story we should reserve judgement on it. But for me personally.. I don't find it offensive because I know the series and I know that other games are similar in that regard, only using different ethnicities.
i dont think he makes a valid point he says himself racism is the act of hatred based on race....wheres the hatred in this game? its a survival horror game the main character doesnt "hate" anything :S
I don't think he's calling the game "racist"... I think he's simply stating that the dipiction of VERY realistic looking Hatians/Aficans in this game being killed will bring up concerns. And he's right... To the non-gamer that see's this game running at a friends house or a kiosk.. They'll take one look at it and say RACIST!!! This issue isn't going away people...
i think we allknow any game that brushes on a touchy subject will be under scrutiny now-a-days.
I don't think he's calling the game "racist"... I think he's simply stating that the dipiction of VERY realistic looking Hatians/Aficans in this game being killed will bring up concerns. And he's right... To the non-gamer that see's this game running at a friends house or a kiosk.. They'll take one look at it and say RACIST!!! This issue isn't going away people...
OhSnapitz
Exactly. Tell that to all the kids going on about "but if a black guy shoots a white guy its ok!?" as if that's even slightly relevant to the point... it's not RACIST, but it brings up race and makes the game somewhat uncomfortable and disturbing to a whole new level.
[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="slikonebtz"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]There are so many people who have just completely missed the point here entirely. "It's not racist that's so stupid!" It's not racist - racism is the act of hatred based on race - the point is that you are playing as white guy, gunning down hordes of incredibly realistic poverty-stricken black people who dont look anywhere near enough like zombies. It's harrowing, and feels uncomfortable to watch. Like the TC said, 15 year old americans dont need to be playing this sort of thing.ParkCarsHere
You honestly make a valid point... but at the end of the day it's still just a VG. Until we know more about the story we should reserve judgement on it. But for me personally.. I don't find it offensive because I know the series and I know that other games are similar in that regard, only using different ethnicities.
i dont think he makes a valid point he says himself racism is the act of hatred based on race....wheres the hatred in this game? its a survival horror game the main character doesnt "hate" anything :S
I don't think he's calling the game "racist"... I think he's simply stating that the dipiction of VERY realistic looking Hatians/Aficans in this game being killed will bring up concerns. And he's right... To the non-gamer that see's this game running at a friends house or a kiosk.. They'll take one look at it and say RACIST!!! This issue isn't going away people...
No they wont! That's not the point. Anyone who walks in is going to be "Sweet game! Can I play?". NORMAL people realize that games are made for fun, and Resident Evil 5 is not being racist or anything. They could have just as easily put it in another ethnic background and then you would just be complaining about that too, since that seems to be what you do - complain.
Dude you're looking at this game from a Gamer perspective.. (and so am I) but you can't ignore or "sweep under the rug" the fact that others will not be so open minded about this game. Remember when the Haitian community was in an uproar about GTA Vice City? That was a mess... Or how about the Mexican government banning GRAW2 because of it's dipiction of you going to Mexico, and killing mexicans... This isn't fanboys ranting about an irrelevant topic.. This is a future problem..
You're being completely illogical. People like you are the reason that gaming is becoming the way it is and games are starting to be banned, or something else. Did you play RE4? The same thing happened. You were killing people who didn't look like zombies at all, at least in the beginning of the game when they didn't have huge things sprouting out of their heads.
I don't want to be modded again, so I'm just going to keep my personal hatred for you at a minimum. Please stop posting. Please? Nobody likes your arguments and they don't even make sense. Use all this negative energy towards gaming and put it towards something constructive and make the world a better place, or something.
ParkCarsHere
I'm not even going to bother responding to your posts until you have something relevant to say. :| Make a point, dont just tell me to "stop posting :cry:" because you dont understand the arguement at hand here.
Everyone who agrees with TC is Racist. Treating and considering Black people different from white people is racist. If killing white people in RE4 is ok killing black people in RE5 is ok.THE COLOR OF THEIR SKING DOES NOT MATTER.
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