Anyone else think Sony is really scared about the Xbox event?

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#1 lifelessablaze
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Considering how weak theirs was? I mean who the heck looked at the Sony shitshow and thought "wowza that PS5 lookin pretty yummy I can't wait to play all those substandard games nobody cares about"?

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#2 Fedor
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I assume they're pretty relaxed about it.

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#3 Archangel3371
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Not sure about Sony but some people around here seem to be pretty rattled about it. 😅

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#4 Pedro
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I am scared of the nonsense you post on a regular basis.

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#5 ConanTheStoner
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TERRIFIED.

Shit post aside, I'd be both surprised and happy if MS has a better showing. Sonys showing didn't floor me, but relative to how those things usually go, it was pretty damn good.

At the very least, will be better than that recent PC gaming show for sure.

MS should 1up Sony at the intro. Lead in with Skyrim to counter Sony starting with GTA5.

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#6 SolidGame_basic  Online
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Uh last time I checked the last MS show was awful. So was the PC Gaming Show. Sony had a few misses, but overall, it was pretty good.

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#7  Edited By madrocketeer
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At this point? Scared of getting altitude sickness from standing atop the mountain of money they're about to make, more like.

Microsoft would need to hit it for six to change that. Maybe they will, but on past form, I wouldn't hold my breath.

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#8 Archangel3371
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I would say that Sony is definitely concerned about pricing though. Perhaps mostly with the rumoured ‘Lockhart’.

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#9 Sagemode87
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#10 Pedro
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@Archangel3371 said:

I would say that Sony is definitely concerned about pricing though. Perhaps mostly with the rumoured ‘Lockhart’.

They are both "hesitant" about the price.

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#11 Archangel3371
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@Pedro: Oh yeah for sure although Microsoft is probably a little more flexible in that department.

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@lifelessablaze said:

Considering how weak theirs was? I mean who the heck looked at the Sony shitshow and thought "wowza that PS5 lookin pretty yummy I can't wait to play all those substandard games nobody cares about"?

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/ign-new-poll-suggest-that-gamers-want-to-play-game-33498832/

^all the IGN readers, at any rate

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#13 lifelessablaze
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@xantufrog: 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂

stop it bro i'm literally dying

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#14 deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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Sony will only be scared if they bring back Don Mattrick and fire Phil Spencer they should totally do it.

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#15 sakaiXx
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Hoping MS has better showing, Sony and its related devs do wonderful stuff under pressure.

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#16 npiet1
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@lifelessablaze said:

Considering how weak theirs was? I mean who the heck looked at the Sony shitshow and thought "wowza that PS5 lookin pretty yummy I can't wait to play all those substandard games nobody cares about"?

Me.

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#17 Sagemode87
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@sakaixx: how does what MS do affect Sony? MS wasn't competitive this gen and Sony had one of their best gens ever. Don't understand this reasoning.

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#18 Pedro
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@Sagemode87 said:

@sakaixx: how does what MS do affect Sony? MS wasn't competitive this gen and Sony had one of their best gens ever. Don't understand this reasoning.

Because MS is their competitor and MS is the reason they have not reveal price.

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#19  Edited By sakaiXx
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@Sagemode87 said:

@sakaixx: how does what MS do affect Sony? MS wasn't competitive this gen and Sony had one of their best gens ever. Don't understand this reasoning.

When PS3 did badly Sony releases some of the best game of its gen alongside then a really good subscription option in PS+, online is free on PS3 btw but PS+ offerings and game discount was quite attractive so getting it was a no brainer. So Xbox being competitive will hopefully make Sony more consumer friendly with its offerings.

I personally think some games on Sony side is a bit formulaic this gen. I love Horizon like the next person and the games are really damn good but they need a bit of maybe innovate more. I kinda miss when Sony publishes unique games like Puppeteer, Tokyo Jungle, JRPGs and even experimental games like MAG. Sony were more adventurous last gen.

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#20 Phlop_Spencer
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Only thing Sony is scared of is releasing too many AAA exclusive heavy hitters too close to one another where there is potential to overshadow one of their exclusives.

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#21 tenaka2
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Yeah...... the shock of more 'Halo' is enough to scare anyone.

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#22 Ant_17
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@ConanTheStoner: you joke but we know Minecraft will be shown with raytrasing

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A company that doesn't win generations, has no exclusives, has gotten their asses handed to them for several years by Sony is supposed to....make Sony afraid?

Really?

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#24 VFighter
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@lifelessablaze: Why are you even allowed to create threads at this point?

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#25  Edited By daredevils2k
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I'm pretty sure Sony isn't worried about the MS event, especially with this all the events MS held this gen.

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#26  Edited By daredevils2k
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@xantufrog said:
@lifelessablaze said:

Considering how weak theirs was? I mean who the heck looked at the Sony shitshow and thought "wowza that PS5 lookin pretty yummy I can't wait to play all those substandard games nobody cares about"?

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/ign-new-poll-suggest-that-gamers-want-to-play-game-33498832/

^all the IGN readers, at any rate

I Know right? with 30k votes looks like Sony isn't worrying at all.

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#27 Pedro
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@daredevils2k said:

I Know right? with 30k votes looks like Sony isn't worrying at all.

Indeed. That's why they are so willing to share the price of the PS5.😮

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#28  Edited By Bluestars
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Well there isnt much to beat,Spider-Man DLC,,batshit and crank and a good looking Horizon

If your a one system fanboy then of course you would think Sony’s show was better because you are emotionally attached but as a real console gamer with both systems and with no unhealthy feelings towards my tv,toaster or gaming machine then MS may show more games I’m interested in,and thru gamepass I can play the ones I’m on the fence about without a huge outlay

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@Sagemode87:

ms had paid online, Sony changed their policy.

Ms x1 had bc, Sony changed their policy. MS allowed name changing, Sony changed their policy.

Ms launched GP, Sony changed their policy on downloads.

Ms sells 1st party games on PC, Sony changed their policy.

Ms launch a minimalistic designed console, Sony...oh wait. 😅

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#30  Edited By VFighter
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@bluestars: Its cute that you think you aren't biased one way or the other lol.

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#31  Edited By tormentos
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@Archangel3371:

How is MS more flexible?

Did the xbox one while been 40% behind cost the same as the PS4?

Did the xbox one X been 45% stronger cost less or even the same as the PS4 Pro?

Hell even the 360 didnt loss MS per unit what the PS3 loss sony,ms loss like $120 per unit the PS3 like $250.

Hell even on this moment how can anyone assume that?

The series X has 16CU bigger GPU checo alone on PC what that equate un price difference,sure MS and sony dont pay the same amount you pay but still one GPU will cost more than the other.

Faster ram chips.

More nand flash on its ssd.

And bigger bus.

Vs

Faster ssd.

I dont see how MS can be much more flexible.

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#32  Edited By tormentos
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@Pedro:

From what i remember MS always went first,now they dont want to,this if because of 2 things.

1- The xbox one horrible reveal.

2-Sony make a joke of the xbox one on 2013.

Badically MS doesnt want what happen last time.

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#33  Edited By Bluestars
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@vfighter:

Playing the Nathan drake collection(ps plus) now,and Half way thru the first,amazing remaster

If you get triggered by my opinion and me being a real gamer with multiple consoles then HAH

HaH

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#34 daredevils2k
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@Pedro said:
@daredevils2k said:

I Know right? with 30k votes looks like Sony isn't worrying at all.

Indeed. That's why they are so willing to share the price of the PS5.😮

And MS is?? How much does the XBsex cost Pedro?

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#35 Zero_epyon
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You mean the show that everyone praised over MS' previous trainwreck show that they had to apologize for? Yeah, I don't think sony is worried at all. In fact there are rumors that Sony's going to reveal prices and release dates a week or two before MS's event.

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#36 jewdaddy
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perfect dark and halo infinite=piss on any ps5 game announced so far, ya perfect dark isnt officially announced yet, but it was reported an official perfect dark twitter acount was recently created so ya it's probley coming lol.

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#37 Solaryellow
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We're talking consoles and not fatal or serious diseases. Come on now.

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#38 Pedro
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@daredevils2k: @tormentos: Its not a hard concept. If MS is not a concern to Sony, they would have revealed the price but they didn't. Which makes both of your claims wrong. 😂

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#39 speedytimsi
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Depends on how much Microsoft is gonna be focused on the Xbox division. Are they gonna go all in or are they just gonna throw that division under the bus like Mixer if they don't see a good return in two years time.

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#40 jewdaddy
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The only reason people are truely rooting for ps5 over xbox series x because they still have that mentality from 2013, when microsoft don mattick wanted to put drm on all xbox one games and turn it into some kinect tv box and sony was about ''games''.Phil spencer has been doing his best to try to distance xbox brand best he can from the disastrous don mattrick e3 2013 event lol.Like ditching kinect for example.People hating on phil spencer are kinda assholes.He's been trying to trying to clean up that mess don mattrick made since 2013, i think he will eventually deliver some goods tho.

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@Zero_epyon: You must have missed the part where Sony had to explain that Spiderman is a full game and not an expansion....despite using ps4 assets and lasting half as long.

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#42 jewdaddy
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phil spencer is no j.allard the brand will never be as great without him, but he's the next best thing.

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#43 Archangel3371
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@tormentos: Because they can afford to be more flexible on pricing if they choose to be especially if the rumoured ‘Lockhart’ proves accurate.

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#44 Pedro
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@speedytimsi said:

Depends on how much Microsoft is gonna be focused on the Xbox division. Are they gonna go all in or are they just gonna throw that division under the bus like Mixer if they don't see a good return in two years time.

You are confused if you think Xbox and Mixer are in the same category.

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#45 Zero_epyon
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@Zero_epyon: You must have missed the part where Sony had to explain that Spiderman is a full game and not an expansion....despite using ps4 assets and lasting half as long.

Clearing some miscommunication for a single game is not the same as having a whole show having to be apologized for because it looked like a glorified zoom meeting with next to no gameplay reveals.

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#46 Willy105
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They might be worried about Series S and how much it undercuts them, but otherwise they are fine.

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#47 sonny2dap
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Looks like both companies are running scared on price judging by how price shy they're both being.

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#48  Edited By lamprey263
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I thought Sony's presentation was strong. Their lower predicted output though I imagine could be price related, or could be Covid related for economic reasons.

I imagine if Sony is worried about anything it might be mainly price related. Neither company has been compelled to announce price first. I am sure neither wants to take more of a loss than they have to but also don't want to price with room for other to undercut them.

I would imagine they are less concerned about Series S price than they are about Series X pricing, since that will be the system they'll need to price the PS5 relative to.

I would imagine what they'd be most worried about with price is MS pricing the Series X at $400. I don't think MS wants to do it but I also think they don't want to give Sony room to undercut them.

Even if that were the case, sure Sony would still perform better in worldwide market, but they could potentially lose ground in their share of the market.

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@Zero_epyon: Neither show had huge swathes of actual gameplay. Most of what Sony showed was pre rendered "gameplay", difference was ms made the mistake of saying they would show gameplay, while sony didn't.....or did you think the ratchet and clank vid was real time gameplay?

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#50 ni6htmare01
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Lol I don’t think so.