APRIL NPDS - PS2 Sells (Nearly) as Much as 360, Wii falls to 340K

After 1 year, Mario Kart Wii is still in the top 10. If someone were to say MKWii would have these legs and not GTAIV, which came out at around the same time,they would be the laughing stock of SW's and be attacked by everyone.

[QUOTE="dgsag"]

Apr-09
PlayStation 2 172K
PlayStation 3 127K
PSP 116K
Xbox 360 175K
Wii 340K
Nintendo DS 1.04M

http://www.vg247.com/2009/05/14/april-npd-all-the-figures/

Yes, you read that right.

The PS2 sold as much as the 360 and the PS3 was only 50K behind.

Games:

Top 10 SKU's April 2009
Publisher Platform Rank # Units
FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD NINTENDO OF AMERICA Wii 1 471K
POKEMON PLATINUM VERSION NINTENDO OF AMERICA NDS 2 433K
MARIO KART W/ WHEEL NINTENDO OF AMERICA Wii 3 210K
PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA Wii 4 170K
THE GODFATHER II ELECTRONIC ARTS 360 5 155K
RESIDENT EVIL 5* CAPCOM USA 360 6 122K
NEW SUPER MARIO BROS NINTENDO OF AMERICA NDS 7 119K
MARIO KART DS NINTENDO OF AMERICA NDS 8 112K
GUITAR HERO AEROSMITH* ACTIVISION BLIZZARD (CORP) 360 9 110K
THE GODFATHER II ELECTRONIC ARTS PS3 10 91K

NPD5623

and hy should anyone listen to a level 1? oh and last time i checked the ps2 is still owned by sony so every dollar they make off of that still goes....to sony! so its more like the ps3/2 outsold the 360, i know that is very fanboyish sounding but its still better logic then what you have used

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]

Wow depressing week, just shocking:?

Anyone have last years numbers?

FirstDiscovery

April'09 April '08 March'09 MoM YoY
DS 1004 415 563 78% 142%
PS2 172 124 11254% 39%
360 175 188 330-47% -7%
PS3 127187 218 -42% -32%
PSP 116 193168 -31% -40%
Wii 340 714601 -43% -52%

Yeah, like I was saying, why the heck do people think these kind of drop offs are normal? This is absolutely absurd for MoM/YoY

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Another great month for the X360 and Wii :)

hyperboy152000

actually it as a horrible month for the 360 and wii, not that it was any better for the ps3 but still it wasnt nearly as good for the 360 or the wii compaired to most of the time

The Wii still outsold the X360 & PS2 combined. And X360 was only down 7% YoY

That's pretty darn good considering we're in a recession.

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="NPD5623"] then let me reassure you that 360 has been outselling PS3 in Europe since the september 2008 price drop and any losses in Japan can be easily offsetted by NA and Europe 360 figures :)NPD5623

funny thing is that there are no official numbers outside the UK so what again?

huh fanboys... too bad i never implied that

the only thing i said that there was only official numbers for the UK and you cant really tell how well the compition performed if its only MS reporting on numbers so yea keep talking like a flamming fanboy

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Another great month for the X360 and Wii :)

LosDaddie

actually it as a horrible month for the 360 and wii, not that it was any better for the ps3 but still it wasnt nearly as good for the 360 or the wii compaired to most of the time

The Wii still outsold the X360 & PS2 combined. And X360 was only down 7% YoY

That's pretty darn good considering we're in a recession.

now even hobos can play ps2 :)

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Another great month for the X360 and Wii :)

ActicEdge

Uh, no :| The wii is down freaking 50 precent from last year. The 360 is down about 7 percent from last year and the MOM sales are absolutely crap. They are most definitely not doing well atleast this month.

Like I said above, the Wii outsold the X360 & PS3 combined. And the X360 only saw a 7% decline YoY

You can look at MoM, but a better indication is YoY. All things considered, the Wii & X360 had a good month.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

actually it as a horrible month for the 360 and wii, not that it was any better for the ps3 but still it wasnt nearly as good for the 360 or the wii compaired to most of the time

FirstDiscovery

The Wii still outsold the X360 & PS2 combined. And X360 was only down 7% YoY

That's pretty darn good considering we're in a recession.

April is traditionally a very slow month for sales. That's why you look at YoY

But yeah, the Wii had a crazy run so far. IMO, it's time for a price cut. Just look at Wii's japan sales. It's time.

[QUOTE="NYrockinlegend"][QUOTE="NPD5623"] MS claims that the 299 Pro is the best selling, not the Arcade. We just assume its the Arcade that sells the most. I recall that the PS3 slightly edged out 360 in early 2008 NA sales. Let me ask you a question: Did PS3 fans brag unecessarily when PS3 outsold 360 by lower margins then 50k?NPD5623

I have to agree with ya. If KZ2 didn't move consoles (and it didn't since the PS3 had sales decline YoY) in the FPS-loving USA, then I highly doubt inFAMOUS will either.

But who knows. inFAMOUS could rock the gaming world. I'm looking forward to renting it. :)

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]You can look at MoM, but a better indication is YoY. IronBass

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

The Wii still outsold the X360 & PS2 combined. And X360 was only down 7% YoY

That's pretty darn good considering we're in a recession.

LosDaddie

April is traditionally a very slow month for sales. That's why you look at YoY

But yeah, the Wii had a crazy run so far. IMO, it's time for a price cut. Just look at Wii's japan sales. It's time.

Madworld didn't chart again. That means at the very most it could've sold no more than 203,527 units, but I highly doubt it did that well. Kinda sad on a userbase of 50+ million, and for a hardcore game with lots of advertising. Good job though sheep.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]You can look at MoM, but a better indication is YoY. NPD5623

Yes and no. You have to realize what actually released last year. Mariokart and Grand Theft Auto 4. That is an absurb month to beat YOY, in fact its beastly. MoM is more accurate because even with April being the worst gaming month the drop for the consoles is just crazy. Way too much of a drop, this isn't healthy. Who cares about the stupid 360 vs PS3 war that is already over? This whole drop is far more interesting.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]You can look at MoM, but a better indication is YoY. IronBass

NPDabove already hit on the points I was going to make. But April is always a very slow month for sales and it has less days than the March NPD.

YoY is best. Probably a horrible analogy, but when I helped manage a restuarant in college, we always judged our sales performance for a particualr day or week by YoY, not MoM.

[QUOTE="NPD5623"][QUOTE="IronBass"] Not really. The sudden change of the MoM figures is an alarming indicator. The YoY are too relative because the time diference is big (one year). ActicEdge

Yes and no. You have to realize what actually released last year. Mariokart and Grand Theft Auto 4. That is an absurb month to beat YOY, in fact its beastly. MoM is more accurate because even with April being the worst gaming month the drop for the consoles is just crazy. Way too much of a drop, this isn't healthy. Who cares about the stupid 360 vs PS3 war that is already over? This whole drop is far more interesting.

Madworld didn't chart again. That means at the very most it could've sold no more than 203,527 units, but I highly doubt it did that well. Kinda sad on a userbase of 50+ million, and for a hardcore game with lots of advertising. Good job though sheep.

Lemmywinks_360

okami ps2 anyone ?

good job 120 million ps2 users :roll:

[QUOTE="NPD5623"][QUOTE="IronBass"] Not really. The sudden change of the MoM figures is an alarming indicator. The YoY are too relative because the time diference is big (one year). ActicEdge

Yes and no. You have to realize what actually released last year. Mariokart and Grand Theft Auto 4. That is an absurb month to beat YOY, in fact its beastly. MoM is more accurate because even with April being the worst gaming month the drop for the consoles is just crazy. Way too much of a drop, this isn't healthy. Who cares about the stupid 360 vs PS3 war that is already over? This whole drop is far more interesting.

A case can be made for what's the best indicator to go by. I believe it's YoY since March and April don't include the same number of days and because April has always been a slow month.

Either way, it really doesn't matter. Overall hardware sales were down 8%. IMO, that isn't horrible.

Where's Killzone 2? Did it stop selling already?

Wow....well outside of the DS and PSP I don't see much "Claims of Ownage" or typical damage control this time. :P

Hopefully the the games coming out later this year will help the PSP out. It's in a dire need of a good market campaign.

What were the numbers on KZ? I did not see it in the top ten...

What were the numbers on KZ? I did not see it in the top ten...

masiisam

KZ2 dropped off the top 10 already, so it didn't even break a million in NA for the first 2 months out, seems hype was the only thing going for it.

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

Madworld didn't chart again. That means at the very most it could've sold no more than 203,527 units, but I highly doubt it did that well. Kinda sad on a userbase of 50+ million, and for a hardcore game with lots of advertising. Good job though sheep.

habkeinbock

okami ps2 anyone ?

good job 120 million ps2 users :roll:

thing is with okami is that the ps2 has a surplus of great games and some of them may be overlooked. Okami also had zero advertising, whereas madworld was advertised to hell and back. so again good work sheep.

edit- I was one of the people who bought okami on ps2.

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

Madworld didn't chart again. That means at the very most it could've sold no more than 203,527 units, but I highly doubt it did that well. Kinda sad on a userbase of 50+ million, and for a hardcore game with lots of advertising. Good job though sheep.

Lemmywinks_360

okami ps2 anyone ?

good job 120 million ps2 users :roll:

thing is with okami is that the ps2 has a surplus of great games and some of them may be overlooked. Okami also had zero advertising, whereas madworld was advertised to hell and back. so again good work sheep.

edit- I was one of the people who bought okami on ps2.

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]

Wow depressing week, just shocking:?

Anyone have last years numbers?

ActicEdge

April'09 April '08 March'09 MoM YoY
DS 1004 415 563 78% 142%
PS2 172 124 112 54% 39%
360 175 188 330 -47% -7%
PS3 127 187 218 -42% -32%
PSP 116 193 168 -31% -40%
Wii 340 714 601 -43% -52%

Yeah, like I was saying, why the heck do people think these kind of drop offs are normal? This is absolutely absurd for MoM/YoY

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

okami ps2 anyone ?

good job 120 million ps2 users :roll:

thing is with okami is that the ps2 has a surplus of great games and some of them may be overlooked. Okami also had zero advertising, whereas madworld was advertised to hell and back. so again good work sheep.

edit- I was one of the people who bought okami on ps2.

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

Madworld didn't chart again. That means at the very most it could've sold no more than 203,527 units, but I highly doubt it did that well. Kinda sad on a userbase of 50+ million, and for a hardcore game with lots of advertising. Good job though sheep.

Lemmywinks_360

okami ps2 anyone ?

good job 120 million ps2 users :roll:

thing is with okami is that the ps2 has a surplus of great games and some of them may be overlooked. Okami also had zero advertising, whereas madworld was advertised to hell and back. so again good work sheep.

edit- I was one of the people who bought okami on ps2.

okami sold better on the wii than on the ps2 :lol:

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

okami ps2 anyone ?

good job 120 million ps2 users :roll:

habkeinbock

thing is with okami is that the ps2 has a surplus of great games and some of them may be overlooked. Okami also had zero advertising, whereas madworld was advertised to hell and back. so again good work sheep.

edit- I was one of the people who bought okami on ps2.

okami sold better on the wii than on the ps2 :lol:

Do I really have to go dig up the Capcom statement where Svenn basically flatout says it did not?

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

thing is with okami is that the ps2 has a surplus of great games and some of them may be overlooked. Okami also had zero advertising, whereas madworld was advertised to hell and back. so again good work sheep.

edit- I was one of the people who bought okami on ps2.

ActicEdge

okami sold better on the wii than on the ps2 :lol:

Do I really have to go dig up the Capcom statement where Svenn basically flatout says it did not?

yes and at the same time you can dig out some core games for the wii that sold well ;)

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

okami ps2 anyone ?

good job 120 million ps2 users :roll:

habkeinbock

thing is with okami is that the ps2 has a surplus of great games and some of them may be overlooked. Okami also had zero advertising, whereas madworld was advertised to hell and back. so again good work sheep.

edit- I was one of the people who bought okami on ps2.

okami sold better on the wii than on the ps2 :lol:

whoa a great game in a sea of filth sells better than the same game but against other incredible games. do go on sir

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

okami sold better on the wii than on the ps2 :lol:

habkeinbock

Do I really have to go dig up the Capcom statement where Svenn basically flatout says it did not?

yes and at the same time you can dig out some core games for the wii that sold well ;)

http://gonintendo.com/?p=72824

There's your Capcom link. I'll work on the core wii games that sold well one next.

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

thing is with okami is that the ps2 has a surplus of great games and some of them may be overlooked. Okami also had zero advertising, whereas madworld was advertised to hell and back. so again good work sheep.

edit- I was one of the people who bought okami on ps2.

Lemmywinks_360

okami sold better on the wii than on the ps2 :lol:

whoa a great game in a sea of filth sells better than the same game but against other incredible games. do go on sir

running out of arguments ? :roll:

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

thing is with okami is that the ps2 has a surplus of great games and some of them may be overlooked. Okami also had zero advertising, whereas madworld was advertised to hell and back. so again good work sheep.

edit- I was one of the people who bought okami on ps2.

Lemmywinks_360

okami sold better on the wii than on the ps2 :lol:

whoa a great game in a sea of filth sells better than the same game but against other incredible games. do go on sir

You are way too bitter. Good Wii games can sell, some fail some won't, it happens. I really don't see why when 360/PS3 games bombs its fine but when wii games bomb it is some huge deal. Some don't sell grat, it happens. (waits for predictable answer)

360 needs250$ pro

PS3 need 300$ 60GB

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

okami sold better on the wii than on the ps2 :lol:

habkeinbock

whoa a great game in a sea of filth sells better than the same game but against other incredible games. do go on sir

running out of arguments ? :roll:

apparently. "Lastly, Okami Wii is not on track to outsell the PS2 version. The worldwide Okami Wii number might get to the US Okami PS2 number at some point though..." Thanks ArticEdge for the link . Running out of arguments ? :roll:

KZ2 dropped off the top 10 already, so it didn't even break a million in NA for the first 2 months out, seems hype was the only thing going for it.

themyth01

So, is it the recession to blame, or is it a lack of good games? DS domination is awesome as usual.

Bigboi500

It the lack of high-profile, "must-buy" games like Mario Kart Wii, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and Grand Theft Auto IV.

With the Wii's outselling both the Xbox 360 and PS3, this means 19th months of console domination for the Wii in the U.S.

Impressive DSi numbers.

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

okami sold better on the wii than on the ps2 :lol:

ActicEdge

whoa a great game in a sea of filth sells better than the same game but against other incredible games. do go on sir

You are way too bitter. Good Wii games can sell, some fail some won't, it happens. I really don't see why when 360/PS3 games bombs its fine but when wii games bomb it is some huge deal. Some don't sell grat, it happens. (waits for predictable answer)

Considering how bad the wii lineup is, when they get a game it should sell.

A cheaper console outselling and higher priced console ... its amazing .... / sarcasm Nonstop-Madness

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

whoa a great game in a sea of filth sells better than the same game but against other incredible games. do go on sir

Lemmywinks_360

running out of arguments ? :roll:

apparently. "Lastly, Okami Wii is not on track to outsell the PS2 version. The worldwide Okami Wii number might get to the US Okami PS2 number at some point though..." Thanks ArticEdge for the link . Running out of arguments ? :roll:

not really :D

lets use your INSTALL BASE argument.

did okami on the ps2 sold 3 time better than the wii version ? NO ! ;)

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

whoa a great game in a sea of filth sells better than the same game but against other incredible games. do go on sir

Lemmywinks_360

You are way too bitter. Good Wii games can sell, some fail some won't, it happens. I really don't see why when 360/PS3 games bombs its fine but when wii games bomb it is some huge deal. Some don't sell grat, it happens. (waits for predictable answer)

Considering how bad the wii lineup is, when they get a game it should sell.

That's not how sales work though. Good game doesn't equal sales even if the library is crap. The good games with mass appeal, advertising and hype sell alright though. Also most wii games are slow burners, they don't sell butt loads the first month. Boom Blox, House of the Dead 2+3, Star Wars force unlleashed, Call of Duty World at War, Tiger Woods all were slow burners that went on to sell well. The wii has over 50 million sellers, but yeat the number of wii games from third parties to ever chart in the top 10 s less than 20. Its not like the other consoles so the same curve does not apply to it.