APRIL NPDS - PS2 Sells (Nearly) as Much as 360, Wii falls to 340K

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#101 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

running out of arguments ? :roll:

habkeinbock

apparently. "Lastly, Okami Wii is not on track to outsell the PS2 version. The worldwide Okami Wii number might get to the US Okami PS2 number at some point though..." Thanks ArticEdge for the link . Running out of arguments ? :roll:

not really :D

lets use your INSTALL BASE argument.

did okami on the ps2 sold 3 time better than the wii version ? NO ! ;)

As far as I know, it did :| Why are you changing the topic, my link destroyed your Okami claim compleely. Why can't you just accept that?

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#102 tymeservesfate
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Apr-09
PlayStation 2 172K
PlayStation 3 127K
PSP 116K
Xbox 360 175K
Wii 340K
Nintendo DS 1.04M

http://www.vg247.com/2009/05/14/april-npd-all-the-figures/

Yes, you read that right.

The PS2 sold as much as the 360 and the PS3 was only 50K behind.

Games:

Top 10 SKU's April 2009
Publisher Platform Rank # Units
FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD NINTENDO OF AMERICA Wii 1 471K
POKEMON PLATINUM VERSION NINTENDO OF AMERICA NDS 2 433K
MARIO KART W/ WHEEL NINTENDO OF AMERICA Wii 3 210K
PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA Wii 4 170K
THE GODFATHER II ELECTRONIC ARTS 360 5 155K
RESIDENT EVIL 5* CAPCOM USA 360 6 122K
NEW SUPER MARIO BROS NINTENDO OF AMERICA NDS 7 119K
MARIO KART DS NINTENDO OF AMERICA NDS 8 112K
GUITAR HERO AEROSMITH* ACTIVISION BLIZZARD (CORP) 360 9 110K
THE GODFATHER II ELECTRONIC ARTS PS3 10 91K

dgsag

is this post suppose to be a knock on the 360, lol? just curious.

the ps2 is only 99 dollars...of course its going to sell well. whats terrible is the ps3...as usual. that systems needs to move units and it just ain't.

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#103 Jamex1987
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[QUOTE="NPD5623"][QUOTE="NYrockinlegend"]-The PS2 cash cow is finally dying. That may mean the console could be called off from further sales in the near future, allowing Sony to possibly allow full BC for their PS3 consoles. -The PSP sold less than the PS3? Really? A $400 console actually out-sold a $200 handheld media device? -The PS3 only sold 50K less than the 360. Maybe consumers aren't that interested in the 360 atm? That's ALOT, considering PS3 is double the price of 360 right now. VERY surprising.delta3074
MS claims that the 299 Pro is the best selling, not the Arcade. We just assume its the Arcade that sells the most. I recall that the PS3 slightly edged out 360 in early 2008 NA sales. Let me ask you a question: Did PS3 fans brag unecessarily when PS3 outsold 360 by lower margins then 50k?

nobody that originally owned an xbox would buy an arcade model, the arcade mode isn't as appealing as people make out, every one i know has a pro or an elite, i'm the only one i know who has ever bought an arcade, then i slapped my 20gb HDD on it, i can't be doing without a HDD and it's the same for most people.

You seem to forget that you can buy an arcade then add a hard drive for cheap. The arcade is the best deal.
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#104 tymeservesfate
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[QUOTE="NYrockinlegend"]-The PS2 cash cow is finally dying. That may mean the console could be called off from further sales in the near future, allowing Sony to possibly allow full BC for their PS3 consoles. -The PSP sold less than the PS3? Really? A $400 console actually out-sold a $200 handheld media device? -The PS3 only sold 50K less than the 360. Maybe consumers aren't that interested in the 360 atm? That's ALOT, considering PS3 is double the price of 360 right now. VERY surprising.

now the ps3 is doing good because it only UNDERSOLD the 360 by 50k...this place and cows are getting weird.
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#105 masiisam
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A cheaper console outselling and higher priced console ... its amazing .... / sarcasm Nonstop-Madness

I know right...I don't know why it's so surprising the PS2 sold close to the 360 numbers...I mean it's 200 hundred less and has a unbelievable library...

Wait...you were talking about the PS2/360 numbers right?

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#106 habkeinbock
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[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

apparently. "Lastly, Okami Wii is not on track to outsell the PS2 version. The worldwide Okami Wii number might get to the US Okami PS2 number at some point though..." Thanks ArticEdge for the link . Running out of arguments ? :roll:

ActicEdge

not really :D

lets use your INSTALL BASE argument.

did okami on the ps2 sold 3 time better than the wii version ? NO ! ;)

As far as I know, it did :| Why are you changing the topic, my link destroyed your Okami claim compleely. Why can't you just accept that?

if he talks nonsense i do

he is just here too bash so i just make it more difficult for him and you just suport guys like him :P

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#107 Lionheart08
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I know right...I don't know why it's so surprising the PS2 sold close to the 360 numbers...I mean it's 200 hundred less and has a unbelievable library...

Wait...you were talking about the PS2/360 numbers right?

masiisam

I think it's the PS2/PS3 comparison.

Eitherway, not much good material for people to troll about. It needs to hurry up and be E3. :P

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#108 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

not really :D

lets use your INSTALL BASE argument.

did okami on the ps2 sold 3 time better than the wii version ? NO ! ;)

habkeinbock

As far as I know, it did :| Why are you changing the topic, my link destroyed your Okami claim compleely. Why can't you just accept that?

if he talks nonsense i do

he is just here too bash so i just make it more difficult for him and you just suport guys like him :P

I already responded to him as well. I just get annoyed when the facts get left at the door for fanboyish garbage.

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#109 Lemmywinks_360
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[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

running out of arguments ? :roll:

habkeinbock

apparently. "Lastly, Okami Wii is not on track to outsell the PS2 version. The worldwide Okami Wii number might get to the US Okami PS2 number at some point though..." Thanks ArticEdge for the link . Running out of arguments ? :roll:

not really :D

lets use your INSTALL BASE argument.

did okami on the ps2 sold 3 time better than the wii version ? NO ! ;)

what games came out for the wii in last year.... SSBB, MKwii, okami. Its going to get sales just because there was no other games. Compare that to the ps2 lineup for 2006 where it was packed, especially around the holiday season, and it got overlooked.

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#110 L30KinG
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woa the ps2 is still a beast

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#111 Doolz2024
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lol at the PS2 selling almost as much as the 360...
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#112 fluxorator
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seriously who is still buying the ps2? crazy props to the ps2.sonny2dap
Actually, talking from just personal experience here, so don't take this as a representation of the whole market I know more than a handful of people who were your standard casuals (Video games weren't their thing). They bought a wii, got sick of it (After a couple of months) and are now heading towards the PS2 for some old, but cheap party entertainment, like SingStar or Buzz.
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#113 masiisam
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]

I know right...I don't know why it's so surprising the PS2 sold close to the 360 numbers...I mean it's 200 hundred less and has a unbelievable library...

Wait...you were talking about the PS2/360 numbers right?

Lionheart08

I think it's the PS2/PS3 comparison.

Eitherway, not much good material for people to troll about. It needs to hurry up and be E3. :P

T-minus 21 days until complete global saturation;)

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#114 DonPerian
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[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="NPD5623"]sales are really down from last month. 360 has a healthy lead over PS3 PS2 outsold PS3.........

PS2 nearly outsold the 360...

It's also a hundred dollars cheaper.
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#115 Lionheart08
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Y'know, I had to give it a third glance, and I'm surprised by how little it's been mentioned...the DS sold over a million. I know it's riding off of DSi hype, but damn. :shock:

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#116 JLF1
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Still no Mad World, GTA: CW or House of the dead: Overkill in the top 10. Neither was Excitebots.


I'm starting to get worried, wasn't Wii and DS games supposed too have legs?

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#117 JLF1
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[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="NPD5623"]sales are really down from last month. 360 has a healthy lead over PS3 PS2 outsold PS3.........DonPerian
PS2 nearly outsold the 360...

It's also a hundred dollars cheaper.

So is the 360 compared to the PS3.

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#118 ActicEdge
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Still no Mad World, GTA: CW or House of the dead: Overkill in the top 10. Neither was Excitebots.


I'm starting to get worried, wasn't Wii and DS games supposed too have legs?

JLF1

I'm sure Madworld has bombed, House of the Dead is selling okay, CTW is selling alright and Excitebots tracked near the top 20. When Mario kart and New super mario bros are still charting consistently well ............................. yeah those games have legs.

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#119 Lionheart08
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T-minus 21 days until complete global saturation;)

masiisam

As much as a like the PS3, I'm hoping a MGSIV 360-port is announced just so things can get interesting. :P

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#120 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]

Still no Mad World, GTA: CW or House of the dead: Overkill in the top 10. Neither was Excitebots.


I'm starting to get worried, wasn't Wii and DS games supposed too have legs?

ActicEdge

I'm sure Madworld has bombed, House of the Dead is selling okay, CTW is selling alright and Excitebots tracked near the top 20. When Mario kart and New super mario bros are still charting consistently well ............................. yeah those games have legs.



Being near the top 20 isn't really something to be happy about when the top 10's lowest selling game only reached 91K.

It's true that New Super Mario Bros and Mario kart and a couple of other game have legs but that is basically it. The same could be said for CoD 4 and Halo 3.

I think there is some huge misunderstanding when it comes to Wii and DS games. Yes Nintendo's own games usually have legs but that doesn't mean all games on those systems have it. A ton of people defended Mad World's poor performance by stating that's it's OK to have a poor month because Wii games have legs when in fact it's Nintendo's games that have legs and the rest dies after about a month.

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#121 no_handlebars
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Ouch at everything that isn't the DS. Or the PS2 for that matter.
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#122 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

Still no Mad World, GTA: CW or House of the dead: Overkill in the top 10. Neither was Excitebots.


I'm starting to get worried, wasn't Wii and DS games supposed too have legs?

JLF1

I'm sure Madworld has bombed, House of the Dead is selling okay, CTW is selling alright and Excitebots tracked near the top 20. When Mario kart and New super mario bros are still charting consistently well ............................. yeah those games have legs.



Being near the top 20 isn't really something to be happy about when the top 10's lowest selling game only reached 91K.

It's true that New Super Mario Bros and Mario kart and a couple of other game have legs but that is basically it. The same could be said for CoD 4 and Halo 3.

I think there is some huge misunderstanding when it comes to Wii and DS games. Yes Nintendo's own games usually have legs but that doesn't mean all games on those systems have it. A ton of people defended Mad World's poor performance by stating that's it's OK to have a poor month because Wii games have legs when in fact it's Nintendo's games that have legs and the rest dies after about a month.

No, no misunderstanding. Its just people like to call thisngs bombs when they don't chart top 10/20. Boom Blox, No More Heroes, Call of Duty World at War, The Blob, WarioLand, Tiger Woods etc. So many gmaes have poor first months and go on to sell well, its not an excuse (well madworld is), the fact that the wii has 50 million sellers is a testamnet to that. Its not ony Nintendo games that have legs, many do, its just people think top 10/20 equals all software sold. Hell, we were all declaring Deadspace a bomb and it sold 1.4 million and LBP which is well over 2 million. People seriouesly need to wait for more than a couple of months and more sales data before declaring bombs.

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#123 Innocentguy757
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172 does not equal 175.
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#124 FirstDiscovery
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172 does not equal 175.Innocentguy757
Yeah but PS3 is ONLY 50k behind you see:roll:
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#125 dgsag
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[QUOTE="DonPerian"][QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="NPD5623"]sales are really down from last month. 360 has a healthy lead over PS3 PS2 outsold PS3.........

PS2 nearly outsold the 360...

It's also a hundred dollars cheaper.

It's also 6 years older.
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#126 shadow8585
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-The PS2 cash cow is finally dying. That may mean the console could be called off from further sales in the near future, allowing Sony to possibly allow full BC for their PS3 consoles. -The PSP sold less than the PS3? Really? A $400 console actually out-sold a $200 handheld media device? -The PS3 only sold 50K less than the 360. Maybe consumers aren't that interested in the 360 atm? That's ALOT, considering PS3 is double the price of 360 right now. VERY surprising.NYrockinlegend
Lol way to make the fact that the X360 healthily outsold the PS3 seem like nothing. More like maybe consumers havent been interested in the PS3 this entire gen...
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#127 Senor_Kami
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

only 50k behind? they can't catch up like that

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NA is not the world!!

NA + Others/EU = Everywhere but Japan, the smallest of the 3 major regions.
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#128 urdead18
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Has there ever been a console that's selling 175k/month 10 years after it's launch?

...Congrats Ps2.

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#129 Fizzman
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Pretty horrible numbers all around, but those YOY decreases are pretty bad 7% for the 360 and ouch 32% for the PS3. Pricecut or else at this point. I feel its worth pointing out that the PS3 and Wii's YOY declines were very close.

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#130 TheEroica  Moderator
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i love the title of this thread. PS2 sells as much as 360. How about 10 year old PS2 sells 50 thousand more than flagship state of the art PS3? Im not thinking he's gonna change it.

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#131 xsubtownerx
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i love the title of this thread. PS2 sells as much as 360. How about 10 year old PS2 sells 50 thousand more than flagship state of the art PS3? Im not thinking he's gonna change it.

TheEroica
Heh. Cowspot would never allow such a thread. ;)
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#132 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]

Wow depressing week, just shocking:?

Anyone have last years numbers?

ActicEdge

April'09 April '08 March'09 MoM YoY
DS 1004 415 563 78% 142%
PS2 172 124 112 54% 39%
360 175 188 330 -47% -7%
PS3 127 187 218 -42% -32%
PSP 116 193 168 -31% -40%
Wii 340 714 601 -43% -52%

Yeah, like I was saying, why the heck do people think these kind of drop offs are normal? This is absolutely absurd for MoM/YoY

Great for PS2 and DS, a slight drop for the 360 but awful for the other3 compared to last year. Having said that the Wii is still selling boatloads.

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#133 SpinoRaptor24
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And yet the 360 outsold the PS3.
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#134 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"]

i love the title of this thread. PS2 sells as much as 360. How about 10 year old PS2 sells 50 thousand more than flagship state of the art PS3? Im not thinking he's gonna change it.

xsubtownerx

Heh. Cowspot would never allow such a thread. ;)

apparently not. We don't want to offend the highly sensitive ps3 owners. haha. I seriously don't care, its just funny that the thread title is so obviously slanted.

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#135 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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What a freakin' dropoff from last month. I get that nothing really came out, but damn those numbers are gobbage. The recession has finally caught up with the consoles.

1 PS3 game in the top 10 and it's at the bottom am I reading that right?

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#136 Fizzman
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cows sure do love to talk about there highly rated games, but it looks like no one is buying em.

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#137 themyth01
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[QUOTE="Innocentguy757"]172 does not equal 175.FirstDiscovery
Yeah but PS3 is ONLY 50k behind you see:roll:

Yea almost 30% less than the 360 is not bad considering how bad the ps3 has been doing lately.
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cows sure do love to talk about there highly rated games, but it looks like no one is buying em.

Fizzman
Which games are you referring to? Killzone 2 has sold well over a million copies now. Is that bad? :| MGS4 sold over 4 milllion copies. IS THAT BAD?! :? LBP, over 2 million. I guess that's bad too... :roll:
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#139 themyth01
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

cows sure do love to talk about there highly rated games, but it looks like no one is buying em.

Doolz2024

Which games are you referring to? Killzone 2 has sold well over a million copies now. Is that bad? :| MGS4 sold over 4 milllion copies. IS THAT BAD?! :? LBP, over 2 million. I guess that's bad too... :roll:

So it sold over 700k in EU? In NA it seems to have only sold around 350k. Pretty low numbers for one of Sony's most hyped titles.

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#140 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

cows sure do love to talk about there highly rated games, but it looks like no one is buying em.

themyth01

Which games are you referring to? Killzone 2 has sold well over a million copies now. Is that bad? :| MGS4 sold over 4 milllion copies. IS THAT BAD?! :? LBP, over 2 million. I guess that's bad too... :roll:

So it sold over 700k in EU? In NA it seems to have only sold around 350k. Pretty low numbers for one of Sony's most hyped titles.

It sold like double that in NA :|

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#141 Doolz2024
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

cows sure do love to talk about there highly rated games, but it looks like no one is buying em.

themyth01

Which games are you referring to? Killzone 2 has sold well over a million copies now. Is that bad? :| MGS4 sold over 4 milllion copies. IS THAT BAD?! :? LBP, over 2 million. I guess that's bad too... :roll:

So it sold over 700k in EU? In NA it seems to have only sold around 350k. Pretty low numbers for one of Sony's most hyped titles.

For the hype it recived, the numbers might be a bit underwhelming, but over a million copies sold still isn't bad...
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#142 themyth01
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[QUOTE="themyth01"]

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]Which games are you referring to? Killzone 2 has sold well over a million copies now. Is that bad? :| MGS4 sold over 4 milllion copies. IS THAT BAD?! :? LBP, over 2 million. I guess that's bad too... :roll:ActicEdge

So it sold over 700k in EU? In NA it seems to have only sold around 350k. Pretty low numbers for one of Sony's most hyped titles.

It sold like double that in NA :|

You're correct, I had forgotten Feb numbers. Actually sold about 650k in NA.
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#143 stiltzsy
Member since 2008 • 1486 Posts
Wow PS3 in last again in the consoles...even losing to its little brother the PS2! I hate to say this but man...sony has to be sharting pretty hard right now. They should consider killing the PS3 (since they already got what they wanted from it...a new movie format) and concentrate on PS2 and start work an a GAMING console like the PS4.
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#144 Psn_FF7numbaOne
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sales are really down from last month. 360 has a healthy lead over PS3 PS2 outsold PS3.........NPD5623
s3 is 400 usd nice try. I can get a 360 for 199.

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#145 themyth01
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[QUOTE="NPD5623"]sales are really down from last month. 360 has a healthy lead over PS3 PS2 outsold PS3.........Psn_FF7numbaOne

s3 is 400 usd nice try. I can get a 360 for 199.

You can also get a ps2 for $100, your point?

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#146 Number_1_Gamer
Member since 2007 • 1786 Posts

That's 6 straight months the PS3 has had a year-over-year decline in sales. What excuse do the cows have now? "Just wait" doesn't cut it anymore. Sorry.

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#147 Kahuna_1
Member since 2006 • 7948 Posts

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

cows sure do love to talk about there highly rated games, but it looks like no one is buying em.

themyth01

Which games are you referring to? Killzone 2 has sold well over a million copies now. Is that bad? :| MGS4 sold over 4 milllion copies. IS THAT BAD?! :? LBP, over 2 million. I guess that's bad too... :roll:

So it sold over 700k in EU? In NA it seems to have only sold around 350k. Pretty low numbers for one of Sony's most hyped titles.

PS3 games dont sell in NA, only in EU and Japan.

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#148 MasteRich
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That's 6 straight months the PS3 has had a year-over-year decline in sales. What excuse do the cows have now? "Just wait" doesn't cut it anymore. Sorry.

Number_1_Gamer
Hey, remember when the 360 was outsold by the PS3 last years? What did the 360 fanboys have to say to that? And lol at PS2 nearly selling as much as the 360. Don't even say "but it didn't" crap, 360 kids have said that too when the PS3 "marginally outsold the 360 early last year. Anyway, I really don't care about sales. I'm having too much fun with Left4Dead.
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#150 Ambli
Member since 2009 • 554 Posts

Wow, the Ps2 out sold the Ps3...wow.