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#151  Edited By BassMan
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Yikes! WTF did I just watch?

Girl boss vibes with a masculin asian female who shaves her head and is probably a lesbian. Top that off with some blatant product/brand placement and you have maximum wokeness and cringe.

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#152 uninspiredcup
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:O

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#153  Edited By Pedro
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I see the lore and historical accuracy no longer matters.😂

According to some folks because 0% of humans space travel across galaxies, having a story based on such a concept is unrelatable so it is forced.😏

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#154 Planeforger
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@Pedro said:

I see the lore and historical accuracy no longer matters.😂

According to some folks because 0% of humans space travel across galaxies, having a story based on such a concept is unrelatable so it is forced.😏

No no, that's different.

If the female protagonist of Assassins Creed Japan wore heavy make-up and lingerie, they'd call it the best game ever. Well, as long as she isn't black.

It was never about historical accuracy. It was always about wanking and racism. That's the sum of their issues with these games. It's pretty sad when you think about it.

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#155 Howmakewood
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Ciri becomes the main character in the books as well, why are people so surprised

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#156 uninspiredcup
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@howmakewood said:

Ciri becomes the main character in the books as well, why are people so surprised

Suspect 98% people complaining prob haven't read the books, or really know jack shit about it, watched some shitty 10 min rage-bait video with random word in caps DANGER! and just parroting it because the Youtube man told them to.

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@Planeforger said:
@Pedro said:

I see the lore and historical accuracy no longer matters.😂

According to some folks because 0% of humans space travel across galaxies, having a story based on such a concept is unrelatable so it is forced.😏

No no, that's different.

If the female protagonist of Assassins Creed Japan wore heavy make-up and lingerie, they'd call it the best game ever. Well, as long as she isn't black.

It was never about historical accuracy. It was always about wanking and racism. That's the sum of their issues with these games. It's pretty sad when you think about it.

What's sad is companies believing they can gaslight the customer base into buying their products, hoping some day the "modern audience" will emerge and consume. It's actually insane and should tell any observing mind, that there is something deeply wrong. Even more sad are "enablers" like you shielding billion dollar corporations. If i don't like it, i don't like it. For whatever particular reason is secondary. Sony doesn't seem to have learned from their Spooderman2 and Concord debacle.

I really hope Sony JP is going to curb the scourge of US-wokism. What an annoying cringe shitbunch.

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#158 palasta
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@howmakewood said:

Ciri becomes the main character in the books as well, why are people so surprised

Books ain't games. And Women ain't Men.

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#159 mojito1988
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It looks horrible so far. Odd really.

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#160  Edited By Planeforger
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@palasta said:
@Planeforger said:
@Pedro said:

I see the lore and historical accuracy no longer matters.😂

According to some folks because 0% of humans space travel across galaxies, having a story based on such a concept is unrelatable so it is forced.😏

No no, that's different.

If the female protagonist of Assassins Creed Japan wore heavy make-up and lingerie, they'd call it the best game ever. Well, as long as she isn't black.

It was never about historical accuracy. It was always about wanking and racism. That's the sum of their issues with these games. It's pretty sad when you think about it.

What's sad is companies believing they can gaslight the customer base into buying their products, hoping some day the "modern audience" will emerge and consume. It's actually insane and should tell any observing mind, that there is something deeply wrong. Even more sad are "enablers" like you shielding billion dollar corporations. If i don't like it, i don't like it. For whatever particular reason is secondary. Sony doesn't seem to have learned from their Spooderman2 and Concord debacle.

I really hope Sony JP is going to curb the scourge of US-wokism. What an annoying cringe shitbunch.

It's really cute that you think there's some kind of high-minded protest taking place.

But no, it's 100% about ensuring you have a safe space where you can wank and be racist. There's no consistency and no moral high ground to anything you anti-woke guys are saying. Its simply that developers are producing games that threaten your safe space, with non-white people in lead roles and women that don't arouse you, and so you're throwing a tantrum online about it. That sums up every vile argument you guys keep making about this apparent blight on modern gaming.

The rest of the world will stop treating you guys like children when you start treating people as people.

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#161 UItravioIence
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@BassMan: it's a videogame. It's not that deep.

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#162 Miquella
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Nope, I lost interest as soon as I saw the character.

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#163 VatususReturns
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@Pedro: Jesus, are you dense...

Sure the first Jedi released back in 2019 but its development started years before when the DEI/woke agenda wasnt as much dominant in our western culture as it is today. Was it made today and it would probably feature a black women or somethin as MC, be assure of it

Historically white men are the most prevalent choice for mc but I meant NOW, as in the last couple of years. I mean, I didnt specifically said it but it was on the nose when I asked for an example of "the last five years". So yes, we became the minority in the last years

Also, some could argue a ginger is not exactly your typical white male protagonist... just sayin

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#164  Edited By Maroxad  Online
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What Spiderman 2 debacle?

Spiderman 2 sold 11 million copies and was nominated for GOTY last year.

Edit: Geralt's story was done. Hence why Ciri is the new protagonist.

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#165  Edited By Pedro
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@vatususreturns said:

@Pedro: Jesus, are you dense...

Sure the first Jedi released back in 2019 but its development started years before when the DEI/woke agenda wasnt as much dominant in our western culture as it is today. Was it made today and it would probably feature a black women or somethin as MC, be assure of it

Historically white men are the most prevalent choice for mc but I meant NOW, as in the last couple of years. I mean, I didnt specifically said it but it was on the nose when I asked for an example of "the last five years". So yes, we became the minority in the last years

Also, some could argue a ginger is not exactly your typical white male protagonist... just sayin

Jesus isn't white so mind your words.😂

"Point me a new western developed AAA IP (i.e. not a sequel or coming from already established IPs) that has a white dude as a main character in the last 5 years."

That goal post moving is hilarious.😂 Exclude any game with a white male main character that isn't a new IP like Hitman 3, Indiana Jones, Halo, Alan Wake, God of War, Doom, DeadSpace, Spiderman, Dying Light 2 etc because those white men don't count.🤭

Add Atomic Heart to the new IP list.

You then shift the goal post to "wasn't in development in prior to the last five years". Then you shift the goal post again to "as in the last couple of years". Then you move the goal post again to

"Ginger is not exactly your typical white male"

"Was it made today and it would probably feature a black women"

List the triple A gameS in which the main character as a black woman. I am interested in seeing how it out numbers games featuring white male protagonist.🤔

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#166 Pedro
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@Planeforger said:
@palasta said:

What's sad is companies believing they can gaslight the customer base into buying their products, hoping some day the "modern audience" will emerge and consume. It's actually insane and should tell any observing mind, that there is something deeply wrong. Even more sad are "enablers" like you shielding billion dollar corporations. If i don't like it, i don't like it. For whatever particular reason is secondary. Sony doesn't seem to have learned from their Spooderman2 and Concord debacle.

I really hope Sony JP is going to curb the scourge of US-wokism. What an annoying cringe shitbunch.

It's really cute that you think there's some kind of high-minded protest taking place.

But no, it's 100% about ensuring you have a safe space where you can wank and be racist. There's no consistency and no moral high ground to anything you anti-woke guys are saying. Its simply that developers are producing games that threaten your safe space, with non-white people in lead roles and women that don't arouse you, and so you're throwing a tantrum online about it. That sums up every vile argument you guys keep making about this apparent blight on modern gaming.

The rest of the world will stop treating you guys like children when you start treating people as people.

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It is interesting that the group that is still the most catered to in videogames and the world for the past hundreds of years, has a loud sect that is crying injustice and claiming minority status all because a handful of games doesn't cater to their wants. These are the same folks who were making fun of safe spaces and celebrating the exclusion of groups now, look at them now.

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#167 pmanden
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I always found Naughty Dog kind of overrated, but I am still interested to see how this game turns out.

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#168 robert_sparkes
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How can anyone not be excited for a new naughty dog ip. Last of us was one of the best games ever made.

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#169 Pedro
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@robert_sparkes said:

How can anyone not be excited for a new naughty dog ip. Last of us was one of the best games ever made.

Why is the concept of games being a subjective experience such a struggle?

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#170 Nod_Eclipse_
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This thread is making me want to do a Ciri appreciation thread.

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@robert_sparkes said:

How can anyone not be excited for a new naughty dog ip. Last of us was one of the best games ever made.

There was no gameplay to get excited about when don't know what the newest IP game truly was. No point in any of us getting excited till we see more of it and there was no release date either.

I'm intrigued, that's it really.

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#172  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Every time their is an overrated thread Naughty Dog always sits at the top.

Valve is never mentioned, people inherently know they are the best.

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#173 DarthaPerkinjan
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Why do everything possible to make her unattractive?

These people act like it's a sin if a guy finds a woman attractive. So they cut her hair off, give her no makeup, and a masculine body with tats, just to make sure there's no chance you could ever get a boner looking at her. And of course she's going to have a girlfriend

But even besides that. It's horrible character design. She's bland, forgettable. That is not how a main character should look. She looks like some garbage bland NPC

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#174 Pedro
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@DarthaPerkinjan said:

Why do everything possible to make her unattractive?

These people act like it's a sin if a guy finds a woman attractive. So they cut her hair off, give her no makeup, and a masculine body with tats, just to make sure there's no chance you could ever get a boner looking at her. And of course she's going to have a girlfriend

But even besides that. It's horrible character design. She's bland, forgettable. That is not how a main character should look. She looks like some garbage bland NPC

And you a saying this unironically?🤔

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I love ND games, but I haven't seen anything of this game to get me hyped yet. The trailer didn't really show me anything to pull me in. I need gameplay.

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#176 Nod_Eclipse_
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@DarthaPerkinjan said:

Why do everything possible to make her unattractive?

I mean, here's the thing. It's a new IP. There is NO rule (and shouldn't be one) that every chick in a game has to look pretty. This chick is obviously, well, not pretty. Very far from it, in fact. But it's not as if they have taken a previously pretty character and made her ugly. They created a fresh, new ugly (imo) character. And that's fine. They've created a new world, new story, new everything. They can do what they want with it.

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@nod_eclipse_ said:
@DarthaPerkinjan said:

Why do everything possible to make her unattractive?

I mean, here's the thing. It's a new IP. There is NO rule (and shouldn't be one) that every chick in a game has to look pretty. This chick is obviously, well, not pretty. Very far from it, in fact. But it's not as if they have taken a previously pretty character and made her ugly. They created a fresh, new ugly (imo) character. And that's fine. They've created a new world, new story, new everything. They can do what they want with it.

It's like they don't know their audience. No one wants to look at an ugly person. People want to escape reality for a bit and have fun. Plenty of ugly people to look at in real life.

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@SOedipus said:
@nod_eclipse_ said:
@DarthaPerkinjan said:

Why do everything possible to make her unattractive?

I mean, here's the thing. It's a new IP. There is NO rule (and shouldn't be one) that every chick in a game has to look pretty. This chick is obviously, well, not pretty. Very far from it, in fact. But it's not as if they have taken a previously pretty character and made her ugly. They created a fresh, new ugly (imo) character. And that's fine. They've created a new world, new story, new everything. They can do what they want with it.

It's like they don't know their audience. No one wants to look at an ugly person. People want to escape reality for a bit and have fun. Plenty of ugly people to look at in real life.

I don't disagree, mostly. Unattractive faces are not exactly sought after. But the thing about not knowing their audience, not a chance. They do know the audience. They just hate them. Why? Who knows. They're weird like that. They see a lot of gamers, most of them, probably, want to see attractive faces, so what do they do? They make ugly faces. And do everything else they can to subvert common preferences in gaming. If you're not with it, then don't buy their shit. I'm not. I really like TLOU 1, but 2 was a freaking travesty of agenda-driven nonsense (though the gameplay was good). And ND has not shown that they have any interest in changing things, so I won't buy their games anymore. Simple as that. The cool thing is this kind of thinking is catching on, finally, which is why we're having Concord-like situations pop up all the time.

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@robert_sparkes said:

How can anyone not be excited for a new naughty dog ip. Last of us was one of the best games ever made.

To build hype... you need to show gameplay. There was barely any shown.

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@Maroxad: Wait, was any gameplay shown?

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@Chutebox said:

@Maroxad: Wait, was any gameplay shown?

The part when the girl was about to attack the robot with her sword was barely gameplay behind it. (Could be wrong but it kinda does look like gameplay)

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Trailer had a cool vibe. Almost thought it was another Kojima thing until they started talking, then it was like oh this isn't stilted and weird lol. Didn't expect them to acknowledge their more gamey games like that, always got the impression they were distancing themselves from their roots.

But yeah ND always makes cool looking trailers. No gameplay, no real opinion beyond that. Guess it hints towards melee combat being a focus, can't say I have faith in ND on that front, but we'll see. Their gameplay has been improving with each release, biggest issue being how often they let you play. Hopefully this one is different.

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#183  Edited By Pedro
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@ConanTheStoner said:

Trailer had a cool vibe. Almost thought it was another Kojima thing until they started talking, then it was like oh this isn't stilted and weird lol. Didn't expect them to acknowledge their more gamey games like that, always got the impression they were distancing themselves from their roots.

But yeah ND always makes cool looking trailers. No gameplay, no real opinion beyond that. Guess it hints towards melee combat being a focus, can't say I have faith in ND on that front, but we'll see. Their gameplay has been improving with each release, biggest issue being how often they let you play. Hopefully this one is different.

I am hoping they make playing the primary focus.🤞🏽

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#184  Edited By Chutebox  Online
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@davillain: Nah, I see no gameplay. 😅

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@ConanTheStoner said:

Guess it hints towards melee combat being a focus, can't say I have faith in ND on that front, but we'll see. Their gameplay has been improving with each release, biggest issue being how often they let you play.

I think their gameplay is dope. TLOU2 sucks outside of that, but the gameplay is s-o-l-i-d. Super visceral and immersive in a way that other games just don't reach.

But yeah. The freaking jerks are always taking the controller out of your hand. Literally can't stand that crap.

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@SolidGame_basic: "Video game god" pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.

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#189 Last_Lap
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@robert_sparkes said:

How can anyone not be excited for a new naughty dog ip. Last of us was one of the best games ever made.

Nah, it's one of (if not the most) overrated games of all time that's for sure.

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#190  Edited By ShadyAcshuns
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@miquella said:

Nope, I lost interest as soon as I saw the character.

Sounds about right.

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#192  Edited By ermacness
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It’s going to get hated on because of the developer. Even though ND have consistently put out very serviceable - awesome games it will still be hated on because well it’s ND.

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#194  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@noonen said:
@ermacness said:

It’s going to get hated on because of the developer. Even though ND have consistently put out very serviceable - awesome games it will still be hated on because well it’s ND.

No. It's going to be hated on because it's going to be another 30 fps movie game devoid of gameplay and has some generic story. It will win awards because of pretentious "journalists" but won't be played for more than the weekend of release, and primarily by omega casuals at that.

And lets not even get into the politics.

Basically myself, Pedro and Conan and a few others are about the only ones hating it for that reason. And even that's a strong word, me personally, indifferent.

Everyone else is having a nervous breakdown over a bald Asian lady acting like the world is about to end, and probably going to spend months crying about it, and even if it is good, use that as the basis to hate it using shitty angles to try mask it.

It's gonna be very stupid! But also kind of funny.

@noonen said:

This is one of the most woke dei games I have ever seen. BOYCOTT it!

It's not right.

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@Pedro said:
@vatususreturns said:

Read again. I said NEW IP wich Jedi isnt. I'll give ya Callisto Protocol though, I just couldnt bother to remember it

So, you were wrong. Jedi was released on November 15th 2019. 🤣

You decided to purposely exclude the many games in which you play as white male to pretend that there is a problem. 😂

@vatususreturns said:

When it comes to new videogames protagonists, yes we are

Factually false. White males occupy the majority out of all the games ever made.

That's not factually false. Notice the word "New" .

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@uninspiredcup said:
@Elaisse said:

The one on the left looks worse. It looks like one of those generic Korean models see in an MMO.

The one on the right reminds me of this. Tripitaka, who ironically played a man, but created a completely unique character that stands out for the time.

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Quite honestly, her design was the least generic thing of that trailer in a game have basically, 0 interest in.

I'll take a generic Korean model over a generic androgynous butch.

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@elderlord99 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@Elaisse said:

The one on the left looks worse. It looks like one of those generic Korean models see in an MMO.

The one on the right reminds me of this. Tripitaka, who ironically played a man, but created a completely unique character that stands out for the time.

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Quite honestly, her design was the least generic thing of that trailer in a game have basically, 0 interest in.

I'll take a generic Korean model over a generic androgynous butch.

I don't think you know what generic means.

Which makes sense.

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#198 Pedro
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@elderlord99 said:

That's not factually false. Notice the word "New" .

Then prove it.🤷🏽‍♀️ Prove that white males are the minority in "New" games, without moving the goal post or creating contrived restrictions.😏

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@Pedro said:
@elderlord99 said:

That's not factually false. Notice the word "New" .

Then prove it.🤷🏽‍♀️ Prove that white males are the minority in "New" games, without moving the goal post or creating contrived restrictions.😏

Didn't he say over the past 5 years? That statement would hold true.

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#200 Pedro
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@elderlord99 said:

Didn't he say over the past 5 years? That statement would hold true.

Again, prove it. Since you wanted to back his claim.😌