Arstechnica : Xbox One users largely ignore backward-compatible Xbox 360 games

@Shewgenja: you're talking about too many NC threads, well have you seen the number on PSVR threads?

BC is a great feature, I think I use it 1-2% of the time because there are also a lot of new games I love to play. You don't play BC titles as much since you've already played them obviously. How many people are still playing UC4 currently you think? The answer is probably less than BC titles on Xbox One

@kvally: Aah its all for laughs, dude. I use BC. Next thing a Sony exec will state refunds for digital purchases are rarely used and cows will scoff at the fact Xbox offers it but Sony doesnt.

IF you're calling those essays then you're pretty sad. You're on a gaming forum where all you do is read and you're complaining about any response longer then 2 sentences hahahaha pathetic

Anyway the only person having a meltdown is you son. Can't handle the fact that the Scorpio will put the PS4/Pro graphics behind it as well as PC. Can't handle the fact the PSVR is selling like shit and was lower than Sony originally expected.

LOLOLOLOL you're a transparent as a piece of cellophane. You're a troll, a butthurt cow that can't stand anyone having a differing opinion from Sony's, oops I mean yours. Your only response to anyone is "you're having a meltdown, you're butthurt!!!" <--- you in a nutshell

Except I shared my gamer tag el tormented. I can prove it...you can't and before you say that pic you showed is proof, it's not. Anyone can take a pic in front of a PS4 and call it theirs. Give up your gamer tag and prove it.

300 games is few? Hell I'll take that 300 free than paying for a streaming version of BC that Sony has tried to sucker you cows into paying for.

You kind of got me on that one. PSN was shit but it was free.

Gamer tag proves it El tormented. You're sooo sad you can't even share yours probably because you don't have one. Not owning a PS4 probably has something to do with that.

LOL, according to the data, TV only takes up 6.7%. Heck, even ignoring all the non-gaming use, backwards compatibility would only rise to a mere 2.7% of the total gaming time. What's next? People leave Xbox One games paused while they go eat/sleep/post online, artificially inflating that number to appear more popular?

I just didn't get use out of it, I do have X1 turn on my Tv and receiver though.

This thread........LMAO

The Cows with Alt Accounts.....LMAO

The Fear......LMAO

The Butthurt.....LMAO

All in the name of Scorpio.....LMAO

I think the poll is slightly misleading as Xbox One has no games, so I think people are reporting watching Animu and trying to navigate the OS as gaming.

Easy mistake to make, for Xbox only gamers

The funny thing is cows are here trying to say BC is irrelevant because of usage levels, but anyone thats actually a gamer acknowledges the value of it. Of course the usage levels arent high, most people that had a 360 already played the games. But the option for them to be available is valuable.

Cows are here trying to spin that MS is concentrating more on BC than new games, which isnt true or that they keep all their old consoles so its irrelevant. So what happens when your old console finally breaks down and wont turn on?

Instead of concentrating on 'nobody uses BC' what cows need to be paying attention to is the fact that one of Playstation's top execs basically just openly admitted that Playstation isnt going to support BC going forward, and not only that scoffed at Playstation gamers that ask for it.

His statements are just as myopic and haughty as the Xbox execs back at the Xbox One launch and its really not a good look for Playstation.

Two biggest quotes from the interview:

"It is one of those features that is much requested, but not actually used much."

"They looked ancient, like why would anybody play this?"

Sony fans are now like Apple fans, where their favorite company tells them what they want and Sony fans eat it up.

@VERTIGO47 said:

All in the name of Scorpio.....LMAO

Scorpio = flop

"but not actually used much"

That's the main part!. I don't use it. I don't care about BC. Played one PS2 game on PS3 10 years ago. So, i didn't used BC much = DON'T CARE

"inaccurate view" and not "inaccurate data" ARE NOT THE SAME! So, he didn't debunked numbers. Xbone fan!

PS Pro = flop

Did Sony Shut Down this service? Or is it still operating with 450 backward compatible games?

@Pedro said:

Did Sony Shut Down this service? Or is it still operating with 450 backward compatible games?

And that's not even including the countless "ancient looking" games found on the PSN Store you could browse, buy and play for your current PS system.

@mowgly1:

You sad pathetic cows are getting desperate and dumber everyday. LOL

How can it be a flop when it doesn't even exist yet?

Keep trying and keep COWering behind new alt accounts, little bovine.

If Patcher can predict something what doesn't exists, so can i. Cheers!

@VERTIGO47: Chill out dude, you're having a meltdown. Go outside and have a smoke or something.

@mowgly1:

Prachter is an idiot and you're even a bigger idiot for listening to him

@quadknight:

Im already chill, dude. Seems you're the one who needs to go outside, LITERALLY, for getting so Emo Rekt and defensive over my post.

I may have touched a nerve over the alt accounts.

Seems like he is loosing in all these threads. The Scorpio announcement on Sunday is messing with his mind or maybe the PSVR. LOL

@VERTIGO47: If your butthurt tirade in here is "chill" I'd hate to see you when you're truly upset. You're having a meltdown in here, it's clear for all to see. It's like the OP really pinched a nerve with you.

@Pedro:

Indeed, lol

@VERTIGO47: Two butthurt lems agreeing with each other that they aren't butthurt lol. ? Keep the meltdowns coming.

Who's listening him? I'd never said that. I could mention any analyst, just Patcher came to my mind. So, if he ( or every other analyst ) can make a prediction for something, so can i.

@quadknight:

Keep assuming, keep trying, keep COWering and keep crying little bovine.

Nobody cares except you. That is why you live and breath trolling these forums 24/7 day and night. Sad really.

Waits for incoming "butthurt, meltdown" gif...

LOL

System Wars: OMG YU GAIZ! NEW LIST OF BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE GAMEZ!! BE HYPE! SUFFER YOUR PSNow, plebeian backwoods PS4 gamerz!! Microsoft is FOR THE GAMERS BY THE GAMERS!

Actual Xbox owners in the real world:

@quadknight:

LOL

My first post was all LOL over this thread. Mogly responded to me and

I responded to what Mogly said, YOU couldn't keep your fingers from typing because you have NO LIFE, decided to respond to me.

Yup, I pinched a nerve in you, keep your meltdowns low, I don't want global warming to get to catastrophic levels.

Another response from MS.

@loe12k: Dat late damage control. What is the actual usage time though? Saying 50% have tried it doesn't disprove the OP that only 1.5% of Xbone time is spent with the feature.

So that's an average of about 32 hours of BC usage per user. That's not as abysmal as previously thought, but still not impressive.

@loe12k said:

Another response from MS.

While Ars numbers were for a 6 month period. so 1.5% over a 6 month period would probably be about right.

Yep, Arstechnica was right!

@Shewgenja:

LOL thats rich because I have talked to multiple forums members here that say most of the bitch ass cows here are too fucking chicken shit to even get online and play with other people from the forums. Half you pussies are afraid to give out your gamertags or get on a mic.

Yep 32 hours of gameplay per player in almost 2 years of BC..

32 x 60 minutes = 1920 minutes

Backward compatibility has been out for more than a year and a half so lets say 547 days.

1920 minutes divided by 547 days = 3.5 minutes of gameplay per day... hahahahaa

This is totally abysmal which is why MS spreading it into millions of hours hoping to hook he Morons into believing that they are doing great.

Oh you mean your friends gamertag?

Hahahahaaa remember since you don't give credibility to the facts presented to you,you should receive non as well.

Yeah and i took the PS4 home put it in from of my TV while i am replying to you and took a shot,then ran to walmart and put it back...

Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

Oh boy how arguments change because last gen suckers such as your self would pay for live when PSN was free,i guess arguments change from gen to gen for lemmings in almost every single way...hahahahaa

Yeah PSN was so shit that had 30 vs 30 games sections on dedicated servers when Halo 3 was half way there,when Gears could not even handle properly 4 vs 4,warhawk was doing 32 players on huge stages with flying planes,tank,jeeps,jet pack,while Resistance 2 was doing 8 players co-op and mag doing 256 players on a huge battlefield yeah on dedicated servers you were paying $50 then $60 for P2P..lol

Did i mention Home? downloadable MODS like UT3 which was totally unsupported on xbox live?

Yeah PSN was crap because it didn't have party chat..hahahah which activision even blocks in some modes in COD do to cheating.

But hey XBO backward compatibility is shit,and most of the 300 games are old ass arcade games and indies with few retail games,many of the games that made the xbox 360 great are simply not supported blind lemming,but at least you have something right..

Now if you only had that mentality last gen,when the PS3 had more than 5,000 games by backward compatibility,oh wait back then lemmings didn't care because the 360 didn't suck game wise.

Great so Netflix is Blu-ray and DVD backward compatibility? But then again so was blockbuster,gamefly and any place that rent you a game,which is what PS Now does.

You lemmings are a joke..ahahahaa

Oh did you miss MS gamepass is a service where they also rent you xbox 360 games...hahahaa

@metalslimenite: please, this thread is a joke. The stupid shit Sony fanboys will say just to think they are 'winning' is LOL.

The saddest part is cows dont even see the Sony exec basically just said 'f*ck our fans' to your faces but used the old cow trick of throwing an Xbox negative on the end of it and you are all cheering.

I hope Sony announces the PS5 at E3 now and sticks that spiked PS Move in good n deep. LOL

Yes and its own numbers prove how sad and low the gameplay hours are,500 million hours may seen like allot to some one as shallow minded as you,but for us who can do the math,yeah is not impressive in any way,in fact is not even meh worthy.

32 x 60 minutes = 1920 minutes

Backward compatibility has been out for more than a year and a half so lets say 547 days.

1920 minutes divided by 547 days = 3.5 minutes of gameplay per day

Half the xbox one user base has play their xbox 360 games on xbox one for exactly 3 and half minute a day...lol

Worse is you can actually read between lines ( i know you can't) he clearly say 50% has PLAYED not that PLAY..

Wow, that is your counter? LMAO. No! really, thats your counter. GTFO. All of what you see on Netflix; outside of Netflix originals, can be played on a Blu-ray device. And guess what, a Blu ray device is BC with DVD. Netflix does not exist because devices CANNOT play DVD or Blu Ray. Oh, shit, your point was rekted. I am sorry, you got to try harder next time.

Can you play any PS3 games you already own without PSNow? Oh! No. Well thats so sad.

Can you play any PS4 games on PSNow? Oh! No. Well thats equally sad.

Can you play the PS3 or PS4 games with PSNow utilizing the full power of the PS4? Oh! No, not again. That's so sad its funny.

Oh! I didn't realized that you owned yourself. I am so so sorry. I didn't mean to cause you to harm oneself. But feel free to try again. Next time it would be a winner. :)

An average 32 hours of gameplay per player is abysmal for such a hugely touted feature. No wonder MS PR is combining it with total number of hours played.

The same old embarrassing spin we are used to seeing them doing this gen with all things Xbone related.

lol to think that lemmings Act like BC was the most important feature on the xb1, but then again a console with nothing but flops so the lemmings here are desperate for anything xb1 has to offer

BC should never be the primary reason for purchasing a new console or eclipse the usage of new/fresh experiences. If you find yourself playing older titles more than newer titles then there is a problem:

1. You purchased the console without doing research. There are several conferences per discussing proposed titles. It's not as if a fantastic triple A title is going to pop out of nowhere.
2. The brand (whether that is Sony, MS or Nintendo) is not providing enough new content for you.

BC is simply a feature that isn't used much. It's just a novelty that's nice to have. For me the only real benefit that BC would offer is to save space but I don't mind having my PS3 directly beneath my PS4.

I also see PS Now, Remasters/Remakes and the PS2 to PS4 program being thrown around in an attempt to try and show some hypocrisy on Sony's end when that is wrong.

PS Now: Should not be mentioned in discussions regarding backwards compatibility. It is a subscription based service streaming service that offers you access to a library where you may or may not have owned a title in the past. This is also available on PC and Sony TV's (until recently where it was discontinued). It's easier to implement because it's being streamed but is also subject to issues with your network.

Remasters/Remakes:This has no bearing on backwards compatibility either. Remasters and remakes are essentially new titles with additional work being done and in some instances new content is provided. Backwards compatibility is simply the ability to play a title in it's original state with your current generation machine. This is also an area where you may or may not have owned a title in the past. TLoU is a prime example. There were plenty of people who held of for hopes of a PS4 remaster and were rewarded.

PS2 to PS4: No one is forcing anyone to rebuy titles they owned previously. This program was instituted to offer new Playstation customers the opportunity to enjoy some of the older titles that the Playstation brand was built on.

The conversation really ends at sales. You have two competing products. The product that does not have BC outsold the product that does and by a sizable margin. Gamers want newer titles over the rare occasion of popping in a title to satisfy the nostalgia bug.

The real issue with Jim Ryans original commentary was regarding Gran Turismo. It's not really a matter of why but how often. People do want to play older titles and revisit classics. The question is, how often do they want to do that?

@quadknight said:

An average 32 hours of gameplay per player is abysmal for such a hugely touted feature. No wonder MS PR is combining it with total number of hours played.

The same old embarrassing spin we are used to seeing them doing this gen with all things Xbone related.

@VERTIGO47 said:

@quadknight:

LOL

My first post was all LOL over this thread. Mogly responded to me and

I responded to what Mogly said, YOU couldn't keep your fingers from typing because you have NO LIFE, decided to respond to me.

Yup, I pinched a nerve in you, keep your meltdowns low, I don't want global warming to get to catastrophic levels.

Keep on Crying Sweetheart.

A couple things to note are that Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 managed to rank in the top 10 best sellers after hitting Xbox One backward compatibility. Even 5 years later, the game is managing to sell boat loads of copies.

http://www.gamezone.com/news/april-2017-npd-call-of-duty-black-ops-2-one-of-the-best-selling-games-of-april-3453745

Red Dead Redemption Sales Jump 6000% After Xbox One Backwards Compatibility Announcement

Sales of Red Dead Redemption and Red Dead Redemption - Game of the Year Edition on Xbox 360 have skyrocketed since the announcement that Rockstar's acclaimed open-world game will be playable on Xbox One through backwards compatibility.

Amazon's Movers & Shakers list, which tracks sales ranking and notes increases, lists a 6329% rise for Red Dead Redemption and currently lists it at as the 17th most popular video game on the site. It was previously at No. 1093.

It's a useless feature?

Working overtime with that damage control. 6000% of zero is still zero lol.

? 1.5% Ouch! Fact is people would rather spend time watching Netflix and Youtube on the Bone than playing any game with BC.

"Our analysis used a third-party API to randomly sample usage data from nearly one million active Xbox One Gamertags over a period of nearly five months"

Why do people feel the need to post flawed data and try to use it to rationalize things?

PSNow is the only way you can access PS3 games on the PS4 and currently only plays last gen and older games. Making it relevant to any conversation about BC or having access to older games on current gen systems.

If want to be all technical, Xbox One does not have BC because it requires the games to be downloaded and the games have been recompiled specifically for the Xbox One platform. Your disc only serves the purpose of proof a valid licensee. So, one can effectively argue there is no BC for any of the current platforms.

LOL but they have a good % watching Netflix, other apps (oh I dont know maybe Hulu and others services which are putting dents into network TV) Yeah, you really proved me wrong fella