Atlus being sold off. Who is getting her?

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#101 DrRockso87
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Not really a great selection of publishers to choose from.

- Sega Sammy - Does Sega have enough money to purchase them? Last time I checked, they were cosying up to Nintendo to help bail them out.

- Konami - Last thing we need. A publisher with a record for piss-poor advertising anything that's not Metal Gear Solid or Soccer-related.

- Square-Enix - Yeah... no. Just no. I can already hear executives asking how they can "appeal to a Western audience" with Atlus new titles. Hmm, speaking of which...

- Capcom - Oh great! Can't wait for a sh_itton of on-disc DLC, appealing to the "Call of Duty" audience, and "ultimate" re-releases of Atlus games every six months. Wonderful! 

Only companies from the list I trust are Tecmo Koei, Sony, Namco Bandai, and Nintendo. Still, I can't see Atlus going first-party though (however, Sony would be wise to jump on them; port all of the 3DS titles to PSVita and watch sales quadruple overnight in Japan) so my money is on either Tecmo Koei or Namco Bandai. They're both third-party and publish more niche titles so it seems to fit.

Capitan_Kid

Its funny cuz Atlus rereleases its games all the time and they're doing a lot of DLC for SMT 4.

Fair enough. But I just hate this "let's appeal to the Western audience" thinking. How about, I don't know, just make good games? Atlus doesn't seem to worry too much about "targeting the Call of Duty crowd" (serious quote by Capcom more than once).

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#102 DrRockso87
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Sweenix"]

don't even say that, microsoft should never get their hands on japanese companies

Lionheart08

they don't even care about japan anymore.

Microsoft would gut them and have them making Kinect Games.

I do think Square is going to scoop them up. Say what you will about the FF decline, but they've been pretty hands off with Eidos.

Square-Enix would be just as bad. They're still in the red thanks to the failure of Final Fantasy XIV launch. Because of that, their video game expectations for Tomb Raider, Hitman: Absolution, Sleeping Dogs, etc. are so ridiculous that something like 3.4 million copies selling in one month is apparently a "failure".

Plus, we'd probably see every new Atlus title exclusive to iPhones/Androids/Tablets. Yay...

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#103 ManatuBeard
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I'm hoping for Nintendo. The Wii U just seems like such a good system to play RPGs on.

[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

Sony already has a publishing deal for Atlus in Europe, Atlus doesnt have publishing licenses for EU market.

This might help, IF Sony is interested in Atlus...

At least there would be a chance we could see Persona 5 before 2020, one of the teams of Japan Studio could make it...

scoots9

I wasn't aware of that. What games are they Publishing for them?

On a related note, Nintendo is publishing SMT IV in Europe and parts of Asia.

I researched a bit and it seem it was a short term thing for PSN only. Atlus then made a similar deal with NIS America, but NIS picks the games they might want to publish in EU, Atlus has no say in it. (Before NIS and Sony it was Sega... http://www.pixlbit.com/news/1874/sega_and_atlus_enter_partnership)

This means Atlus was in the shit for much longer than we thought.

Its actually sad... Persona is one of my favorite franchises.

 

http://www.vg247.com/2013/04/09/nis-america-to-publish-more-atlus-games-in-europe-after-new-deal/

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#104 masterninja9
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Not really a great selection of publishers to choose from.

- Sega Sammy - Does Sega have enough money to purchase them? Last time I checked, they were cosying up to Nintendo to help bail them out.

- Konami - Last thing we need. A publisher with a record for piss-poor advertising anything that's not Metal Gear Solid or Soccer-related.

- Square-Enix - Yeah... no. Just no. I can already hear executives asking how they can "appeal to a Western audience" with Atlus new titles. Hmm, speaking of which...

- Capcom - Oh great! Can't wait for a sh_itton of on-disc DLC, appealing to the "Call of Duty" audience, and "ultimate" re-releases of Atlus games every six months. Wonderful! 

Only companies from the list I trust are Tecmo Koei, Sony, Namco Bandai, and Nintendo. Still, I can't see Atlus going first-party though (however, Sony would be wise to jump on them; port all of the 3DS titles to PSVita and watch sales quadruple overnight in Japan) so my money is on either Tecmo Koei or Namco Bandai. They're both third-party and publish more niche titles so it seems to fit.

DrRockso87
Damn, I thought Konami was better than that. They still seem to be the best of the worst though...
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#105 GD1551
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People trust Namco Bandai? 

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#106 Badosh
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MS :twisted:RR360DD
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#107 GD1551
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Also I'm sure the SMT games sell too little for Nintendo to bother buying them.

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#108 Jakandsigz
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]MS :twisted:Nintendo_Ownes7

I don't want Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem cancelled; Atlus is co-developing it.

Why would MS buying them have anything to do with that? MS let rare make on 3 different systems no MS related.
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#109 Phreek300
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In my humble opinion Sony or Nintendo. Either is fine with me. I feel that they would let them have the creative freedom that they have now. MS or Capcom would kill them. The others would be rocky. I think if they land with either of the two companies mentioned above that would be fine. If I had to choose another third party.... I'm really not sure. Square Enix might benefit from the creative talents that Atlus has. It might even help the with future RPG designs with characters. God knows they need that. 

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#110 Seabas989
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Either way it sucks all together since Atlus has been my favortie publisher this gen.

I'd rather they stay 3rd party honestly.

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#111 campzor
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sony please. The only one that would use them greatly
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#112 MrYaotubo
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Hopefully a multiplat publisher.
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#113 deactivated-5c03000d4b1b4
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Square-Enix and Capcom won't buy them. they only want game developers who can sell 2 millions plus

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#114 Vari3ty
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For some reason I see Namco buying them. 

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#115 nintendoboy16
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Hopefully a multiplat publisher.MrYaotubo
It's often I do as I get in arguments with you a lot, but I agree with you. Not even Nintendo should have them because they really don't need another Bayonetta 2.
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#116 Cheleman
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All fanboyism aside, I really hope Sony gets Atlus. They would be in great hands.

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#117 nintendoboy16
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All fanboyism aside, I really hope Sony gets Atlus. They would be in great hands.

Cheleman

What fanboyism? Those who don't want Sony to buy them don't hate them, they just don't think Atlus being 100% Sony is for the better, considering Atlus has games on other platforms.

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#118 finalstar2007
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Please Sony do it!!

Persona 5 only on PlayStation systems! and more Vita JRPGs from them would mean vita doing well in Japan. do it Sony

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#119 lamprey263
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I say either Capcom or Square Enix, Atlus games need more port whoring.
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#120 Sagem28
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Sony or Nintendo are good choices in my eyes.

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#121 SPYDER0416
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Sony, Capcom, Square Enix and Namco are my top pics.

I think Sony allows for quite a bit of creative freedom in their games that Atlus would have a nice advantage there, but Capcom and Namco seem to fit better with the games they have (and Namco published Dark Souls, the spiritual successor to Demon's Souls), while SE is just on a good quality streak lately so I'd love to see them grow.

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[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"]Hopefully a multiplat publisher.nintendoboy16
It's often I do as I get in arguments with you a lot, but I agree with you. Not even Nintendo should have them because they really don't need another Bayonetta 2.

I'd argue that is exactly what they need.
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#124 ManatuBeard
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Square seems to be focusing more on western markets now, im not sure Atlus sells enough games to interest Square.

After Tomb Raider sold "only" 3m copies, Atlus is not in its league...

Sony could do wonders with Atlus, Japan Studios have loads of teams that could help Atlus make development faster and more streamlined, Atlus has been a bit of a mess this gen. With Sony, Atlus could be focused mainly on VITA and have Sony power to localize and publish, Atlus biggest problems this gen.

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#125 vashkey
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="MrYaotubo"]Hopefully a multiplat publisher.KungfuKitten
It's often I do as I get in arguments with you a lot, but I agree with you. Not even Nintendo should have them because they really don't need another Bayonetta 2.

I'd argue that is exactly what they need.

It wouldn't hurt but I don't think a jrpgs is really going to effect the WiiU's success
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A list of Atlus' creditors:

Production IG (44,100)

ASCII Media Works (31,521)

Aquaplus (24,120)

STUDIO MAUSU (17,314)

Nintendo (13,599)

Pony Canyon (12,373)

Shueisha (11,395)

Enterbrain (6,166)

Fuji Television Network (5,525)

M-ON! Entertainment (5,040)

JASRAC (3,528)

GREE (2,506)

SEGA (2,454)

Movic (2,412)

YOMIKO (1,890)

Aniplex (1,862)

WiZ (1,737)

Tomy (1,370)

T.O Entertainment (1,260)

TV Asahi (1,218)

Taito (1,113)

Gakken Publishing (1,071)

Tatsumi Publishing (1,050)

Nintendo's among the top 5. :?

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#127 deactivated-5b19c359a3789
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There doesn't seem to be a good option.

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#128 Sweenix
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hopefully nintendo stays away, i don't want persona heldback due to nintendo's stoneage hardware on the 3ds

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#129 LegatoSkyheart
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hopefully nintendo stays away, i don't want persona heldback due to nintendo's stoneage hardware on the 3ds

Sweenix

Someone hasn't played Shin Megami Tensei IV.

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#130 GD1551
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A list of Atlus' creditors:

Production IG (44,100)

ASCII Media Works (31,521)

Aquaplus (24,120)

STUDIO MAUSU (17,314)

Nintendo (13,599)

Pony Canyon (12,373)

Shueisha (11,395)

Enterbrain (6,166)

Fuji Television Network (5,525)

M-ON! Entertainment (5,040)

JASRAC (3,528)

GREE (2,506)

SEGA (2,454)

Movic (2,412)

YOMIKO (1,890)

Aniplex (1,862)

WiZ (1,737)

Tomy (1,370)

T.O Entertainment (1,260)

TV Asahi (1,218)

Taito (1,113)

Gakken Publishing (1,071)

Tatsumi Publishing (1,050)

Nintendo's among the top 5. :?

nintendoboy16

Why do they awesome IG so much money? The Catherine scenes?

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#131 FoxbatAlpha
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Yeah, who the hell wants them!?!
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#132 Sweenix
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[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

hopefully nintendo stays away, i don't want persona heldback due to nintendo's stoneage hardware on the 3ds

LegatoSkyheart

Someone hasn't played Shin Megami Tensei IV.

i own a 3ds and i plan on getting it, but a 3ds persona game would be a huge downgrade from persona 4

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#133 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

hopefully nintendo stays away, i don't want persona heldback due to nintendo's stoneage hardware on the 3ds

Sweenix

Someone hasn't played Shin Megami Tensei IV.

i own a 3ds and i plan on getting it, but a 3ds persona game would be a huge downgrade from persona 4

How so?

From what I've seen from playing Shin Megami Tensei IV and Persona 4 Golden. I doubt you'll be missing a lot.

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#134 Sweenix
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[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Someone hasn't played Shin Megami Tensei IV.

LegatoSkyheart

i own a 3ds and i plan on getting it, but a 3ds persona game would be a huge downgrade from persona 4

How so?

From what I've seen from playing Shin Megami Tensei IV and Persona 4 Golden. I doubt you'll be missing a lot.

Shin megami tensei iv, doesn't look anywhere near as good as persona 4 "graphics wise"

so it would be a downgrade

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

i own a 3ds and i plan on getting it, but a 3ds persona game would be a huge downgrade from persona 4

Sweenix

How so?

From what I've seen from playing Shin Megami Tensei IV and Persona 4 Golden. I doubt you'll be missing a lot.

Shin megami tensei iv, doesn't look anywhere near as good as persona 4 "graphics wise"

so it would be a downgrade

If nintendo got atlus they would most likley release some of the main SMT releases on the WiiU,so that wouldn´t be a problem,considering that those games are exactly graphical masterpieces on the other systems they´re in,at all.
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#136 Sagem28
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

i own a 3ds and i plan on getting it, but a 3ds persona game would be a huge downgrade from persona 4

Sweenix

How so?

From what I've seen from playing Shin Megami Tensei IV and Persona 4 Golden. I doubt you'll be missing a lot.

Shin megami tensei iv, doesn't look anywhere near as good as persona 4 "graphics wise"

so it would be a downgrade

I agree.

At this point tho, I don't even care if it comes to freaking Ouya, I'll still buy it.
I NEED it :cry:

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#137 LegatoSkyheart
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Shin megami tensei iv, doesn't look anywhere near as good as persona 4 "graphics wise"

so it would be a downgrade

Sweenix

From what I'm seeing so far, It's not a downgrade. Only thing I don't see are 3D models of supporting Characters and Battles, but the Quality is still there. Just no 3D models.

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#138 Sweenix
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[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

How so?

From what I've seen from playing Shin Megami Tensei IV and Persona 4 Golden. I doubt you'll be missing a lot.

Sagem28

Shin megami tensei iv, doesn't look anywhere near as good as persona 4 "graphics wise"

so it would be a downgrade

I agree.

At this point tho, I don't even care if it comes to freaking Ouya, I'll still buy it.
I NEED it :cry:

Atlus needs to atleast tease a persona 5, i don't care if it takes 5 years! i just wanna know, they are making it :p

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#139 Sagem28
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Atlus needs to atleast tease a persona 5, i don't care if it takes 5 years! i just wanna know, they are making it :p

Sweenix

They already confirmed it's being developed.
By the same team as P4.

How this buy out will effect it is unknown, tho..

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[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

Atlus needs to atleast tease a persona 5, i don't care if it takes 5 years! i just wanna know, they are making it :p

Sagem28

They already confirmed it's being developed.
By the same team as P4.

How this buy out will effect it is unknown, tho..

Look how things turned out for South Park.... not good!

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#141 Sagem28
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Look how things turned out for South Park.... not good!

ManatuBeard

Mhmm.

Let's hope a scenario like that can be avoided.

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#142 Basinboy
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I keep tossing the idea of MS purchasing Atlus around in my head.  I can't imagine a scenario where it would be a good marriage for either of them, but likewise can't imagine a situation that helps the Xbox brand overseas more than this could.

My money is on Namco.

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#143 Sagem28
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I keep tossing the idea of MS purchasing Atlus around in my head.  I can't imagine a scenario where it would be a good marriage for either of them, but likewise can't imagine a situation that helps the Xbox brand overseas more than this could.

My money is on Namco.

Basinboy

MS buying a niche Japanese dev is pretty much out of the question if you ask me.

But hey, stranger things have happened.

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Here is how i see it.

Great-Sony (Good hardware to focus on, creative freedom, Vita needs help because its not really giving the 3DS any competition)

Good-Namco, Konami, Capcom (Multiplatform games, i dont foresee any real problems if the franchises go to these publishers)

Bad-Square Enix (I'm afraid they would make low quality mobile Persona/SMT games, and/or may not even localize them)

Worst-Nintendo (Worst hardware, region locked, may not localize, no good would come from this)

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#145 LegatoSkyheart
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Here is how i see it.

Great-Sony (Good hardware to focus on, creative freedom, Vita needs help because its not really giving the 3DS any competition)

Vita could greatly Benifit from this.

Good-Namco, Konami, Capcom (Multiplatform games, i dont foresee any real problems if the franchises go to these publishers)

Things would act pretty much the same if any of these take up Atlus. Personally I think they would be right at home with Capcom.

Bad-Square Enix (I'm afraid they would make low quality mobile Persona/SMT games, and/or may not even localize them)

They wouldn't dare. Though I would be afraid they would fire most of the staff if any of their titles don't take off.

Worst-Nintendo (Worst hardware, region locked, may not localize, no good would come from this)

Atlus Region Locked Persona 4 Arena on the PS3, the only game to my knowledge to ever do so for that system, and you're worried about Nintendo's Region Locking? also haven't all of Atlus's Nintendo Titles been released Locally or are you only speaking of the NonLocalizations of the Fatal Frame games? another point to make is the worst hardware point you have, name me one game from Atlus that was graphically enhanced because everything I've seen coming from Atlus doesn't look like a WiiU or a 3DS would hinder much if anything (in other words, They're not graphically heavy games).

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#146 nintendoboy16
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Here is how i see it.

Great-Sony (Good hardware to focus on, creative freedom, Vita needs help because its not really giving the 3DS any competition)

Good-Namco, Konami, Capcom (Multiplatform games, i dont foresee any real problems if the franchises go to these publishers)

Bad-Square Enix (I'm afraid they would make low quality mobile Persona/SMT games, and/or may not even localize them)

Worst-Nintendo (Worst hardware, region locked, may not localize, no good would come from this)

crimsonman1245

Nevermind the fact that Sony will cancel projects that Atlus' niche audience on other systems if they get bought by them? Like MS did Rare and any future Nintendo games of theirs? SMT X FE, remember that announcement?

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#147 GD1551
Member since 2011 • 9645 Posts

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

Here is how i see it.

Great-Sony (Good hardware to focus on, creative freedom, Vita needs help because its not really giving the 3DS any competition)

Good-Namco, Konami, Capcom (Multiplatform games, i dont foresee any real problems if the franchises go to these publishers)

Bad-Square Enix (I'm afraid they would make low quality mobile Persona/SMT games, and/or may not even localize them)

Worst-Nintendo (Worst hardware, region locked, may not localize, no good would come from this)

nintendoboy16

Nevermind the fact that Sony will cancel projects that Atlus' niche audience on other systems if they get bought by them? Like MS did Rare and any future Nintendo games of theirs? SMT X FE, remember that announcement?

What would be the issue with them cancelling projects that they cannot continue to make due to helping competition or otherwise? Either way I doubt they'd straight scrap any games far along in development.

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#148 LegatoSkyheart
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What would be the issue with them cancelling projects that they cannot continue to make due to helping competition or otherwise? Either way I doubt they'd straight scrap any games far along in development.

GD1551

except Shin Megami X Fire Emblem has Ties to a rival company, so if Sony were to get Atlus then that would mean Sony would be developing a game for a rival company and we sure as heck ain't gonna see that happening any time soon.

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#149 nintendoboy16
Member since 2007 • 42238 Posts

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

Here is how i see it.

Great-Sony (Good hardware to focus on, creative freedom, Vita needs help because its not really giving the 3DS any competition)

Good-Namco, Konami, Capcom (Multiplatform games, i dont foresee any real problems if the franchises go to these publishers)

Bad-Square Enix (I'm afraid they would make low quality mobile Persona/SMT games, and/or may not even localize them)

Worst-Nintendo (Worst hardware, region locked, may not localize, no good would come from this)

GD1551

Nevermind the fact that Sony will cancel projects that Atlus' niche audience on other systems if they get bought by them? Like MS did Rare and any future Nintendo games of theirs? SMT X FE, remember that announcement?

What would be the issue with them cancelling projects that they cannot continue to make due to helping competition or otherwise? Either way I doubt they'd straight scrap any games far along in development.

Alienation of the fans and business partners. Hell, to this day, people are still pissed at Nintendo for letting Rare go as much as hate MS. They can (and will if Sony buys Atlus) scrap it even if it is far in development. It's happened before (see: Gauntlet on DS)

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#150 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

What would be the issue with them cancelling projects that they cannot continue to make due to helping competition or otherwise? Either way I doubt they'd straight scrap any games far along in development.

LegatoSkyheart

except Shin Megami X Fire Emblem has Ties to a rival company, so if Sony were to get Atlus then that would mean Sony would be developing a game for a rival company and we sure as heck ain't gonna see that happening any time soon.

Well I know, that's why I asked what was wrong with that.