Atlus being sold off. Who is getting her?

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#201 Nintendo_Ownes7
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I remembered that it also possible that it could happen what happened with THQ; the IP's and teams being divided through various buyers. Unless the current owner of Atlus decided that it can only be sold as whole to someone else, and not pieces and bits ( auction style sale).

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That could solve some problems but I would prefer if they were sold as a whole with all there IPs.

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#202 Granny_Spanked
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Sony would be the best imo, but I could honestly see them going to Namco.
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#203 Capitan_Kid
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If one of the Big 3 has to get them, then hopefully it will be Sony. Better hardware.
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#205 LegatoSkyheart
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watch It'll be some random Japanese company that we've never heard of that buys Atlus.

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#206 FlamesOfGrey
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watch It'll be some random Japanese company that we've never heard of that buys Atlus.

LegatoSkyheart
That might be best depending on their agenda. I'd really like it if Atlus had enough money to become independent but unfortunately that's not the case
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#207 hiphops_savior
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

Thats why Sony would be best choice. No region locks, localization facilities (through Japan Studio) and global distribution. (And Atlus studio could retain its creative freedom)

ManatuBeard

No, being that Sony, like Nintendo is first party, they are NOT the best choice, considering Atlus has a base on other platforms. Seriously, are cows just avoiding this?

How would that be good? Persona 5 on Wii U  would mean an instant low sales numbers.

And the biggest IPs Atlus have have a history of being on playstation consoles.

Atlus bought by Nintendo = dead Atlus with no games seing its way out of Japan

Nintendo is struggling with Wii U, im sure they dont want the expense of buying a studio now.

1. Persona series has already surpassed the Megami Tensei series in popularity. It will sell regardless of platform. 2. Atlus is no longer making games on Sony consoles, their main strategy is with handhelds. 3. Much like how SMT4 and Eterian Odyssey 4 is dead? 4. It's precisely because the Wii U is struggling that Nintendo would be even interested in Atlus. Wii U needs games badly, and Nintendo has already shown that they will take a chance on a developer that needs money (Bayonetta 2 and Platinum Games?). Sony could buy it and completely lock down the Japanese market, but that's a luxury Sony can't afford. In the end, it's wants vs needs, and Nintendo's need for games is far greater than Sony potentially taking over JRPGs with Square Enix, Level 5 and Atlus in tow.
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#208 KaguyaHouraizan
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I'd want Sony to get it, but i want their games on my 3DS. I'd want nintendo to get it but i want their games on my PS3 too. I want these third parties to get it, but they all suck.

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#209 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] No, being that Sony, like Nintendo is first party, they are NOT the best choice, considering Atlus has a base on other platforms. Seriously, are cows just avoiding this?hiphops_savior

How would that be good? Persona 5 on Wii U  would mean an instant low sales numbers.

And the biggest IPs Atlus have have a history of being on playstation consoles.

Atlus bought by Nintendo = dead Atlus with no games seing its way out of Japan

Nintendo is struggling with Wii U, im sure they dont want the expense of buying a studio now.

1. Persona series has already surpassed the Megami Tensei series in popularity. It will sell regardless of platform. 2. Atlus is no longer making games on Sony consoles, their main strategy is with handhelds. 3. Much like how SMT4 and Eterian Odyssey 4 is dead? 4. It's precisely because the Wii U is struggling that Nintendo would be even interested in Atlus. Wii U needs games badly, and Nintendo has already shown that they will take a chance on a developer that needs money (Bayonetta 2 and Platinum Games?). Sony could buy it and completely lock down the Japanese market, but that's a luxury Sony can't afford. In the end, it's wants vs needs, and Nintendo's need for games is far greater than Sony potentially taking over JRPGs with Square Enix, Level 5 and Atlus in tow.

I'd be fine with either getting them, but some comments on those comments... 1. True, but I think most people don't want to buy a platform for one series. Especially a console early in its life (and high in its possible price range) 2. Well, they are still publishing games for consoles including the PS3. Though I'd agree that its been a while if you mean one of their development teams. Can't remember any since Catherine (which happens to be the same team that makes the Persona games). Also, if this is the case, wouldn't that make Wii U a bad thing to have them make stuff for anyways? 3. Their games are niche even as a 3rd party, especially out of Japan. There is a distinct risk that Nintendo might be less willing to pay for the lower selling games to be localized. 4. Again, you already said that Atlus has gone strong on the handhelds. If Nintendo got them, it would be silly to make them Wii U developers. Why? Well, really, what you said about being strong on handhelds. There games can be pretty popular in Japan, but outside they definitely niche at their high points. The reason they are strong on handhelds now is because Japan is a handheld centric gaming culture nowadays. They also are a lower budget company. Handhelds stop them from needing a much higher budget so they can continue with their niche properties as is. The greatest amount of help Atlus being first party can give a company would be Sony with the Vita.
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#210 ManatuBeard
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If one of the Big 3 has to get them, then hopefully it will be Sony. Better hardware. Capitan_Kid

Atlus games were never about pushing hardware limits. They are all about gameplay!

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#211 Trail_Mix
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Sony would do well to jump on this one.

I mean, didn't P4 Golden sell a good portion of people on getting the Vita just for the game itself? It sure seemed like it.

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#212 SonicNextGen2
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I know Nintendo has region lock still for some goddamn stupid reason, but if they go the SMTIV route (little or no delay between Japanese and Global dates), then I am fine with them doing so. The last couple of SMT games on the DS/3DS (Devil Survivor, Soul Hackers, Strange Journey, and SMTIV) are top notch, and Persona 5 on the Wii U would be a great exclusive. If Nintendo whips SEGA into shape with some high quality exclusives and get ATLUS on board to make masterpieces, Nintendo can go the 360 route and entice people to buy the Wii U with third party exclusive support.
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#213 whiskeystrike
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Best case scenario would be independence but if I must pick a poison I would be most comfortable with Nintendo. 

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#214 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

What does it matter how much the system sells? Mainline SMT were console games no? Going to handheld lowers the standard and alienates fans. As for people wanting to play Shin Megami X FE wouldn't they rather atlus go to a company that would fully back them like Sony?

LegatoSkyheart

and Nintendo wouldn't fully back up Atlus?

and 31.09 million people is....a lot of people and if you were one of them you wouldn't be missing out on an Atlus game. Plus, if Atlus was to go to Nintendo they wouldn't just be restricted to Handhelds (though they probably would just develop for the 3DS because it's incredibly popular in Japan right now) they also have the WiiU, which is a good enough system for them to develop some more main line stuff for it, and Nintendo needs that kind of stuff pretty bad now, So they wouldn't be alienating fans. 

(also Atlus has a long history of Developing Games for Nintendo Handhelds so they would be also be right at home, still doesn't stop me from thinking they would benifit from Capcom more.)



Operation Rainfall, enough said about that. Also yes they would be alienating fans, Persona is not on nintendo systems and mainline SMT games weren't on handhelds before 4. So by putting mainline SMT on handhelds and Persona on nintendo consoles, they will alienate fans. 

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[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] No, being that Sony, like Nintendo is first party, they are NOT the best choice, considering Atlus has a base on other platforms. Seriously, are cows just avoiding this?hiphops_savior

How would that be good? Persona 5 on Wii U  would mean an instant low sales numbers.

And the biggest IPs Atlus have have a history of being on playstation consoles.

Atlus bought by Nintendo = dead Atlus with no games seing its way out of Japan

Nintendo is struggling with Wii U, im sure they dont want the expense of buying a studio now.

1. Persona series has already surpassed the Megami Tensei series in popularity. It will sell regardless of platform. 2. Atlus is no longer making games on Sony consoles, their main strategy is with handhelds. 3. Much like how SMT4 and Eterian Odyssey 4 is dead? 4. It's precisely because the Wii U is struggling that Nintendo would be even interested in Atlus. Wii U needs games badly, and Nintendo has already shown that they will take a chance on a developer that needs money (Bayonetta 2 and Platinum Games?). Sony could buy it and completely lock down the Japanese market, but that's a luxury Sony can't afford. In the end, it's wants vs needs, and Nintendo's need for games is far greater than Sony potentially taking over JRPGs with Square Enix, Level 5 and Atlus in tow.

1. The Wii U install base is so small that if it even breaks 300k I'd be surprised. Although I would image it would move units.

2. Is this why Catherine released and had their biggest launch to date? 

3. Two 3DS games, you want to lower the standards of persona games by putting them on 3DS?

4. Only point I agree with you on, but sony not having a major JRPG franchise under their belt may be compelled to buy them. Or at least buy IP and hire key staff.

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#216 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

What does it matter how much the system sells? Mainline SMT were console games no? Going to handheld lowers the standard and alienates fans. As for people wanting to play Shin Megami X FE wouldn't they rather atlus go to a company that would fully back them like Sony?

GD1551

and Nintendo wouldn't fully back up Atlus?

and 31.09 million people is....a lot of people and if you were one of them you wouldn't be missing out on an Atlus game. Plus, if Atlus was to go to Nintendo they wouldn't just be restricted to Handhelds (though they probably would just develop for the 3DS because it's incredibly popular in Japan right now) they also have the WiiU, which is a good enough system for them to develop some more main line stuff for it, and Nintendo needs that kind of stuff pretty bad now, So they wouldn't be alienating fans. 

(also Atlus has a long history of Developing Games for Nintendo Handhelds so they would be also be right at home, still doesn't stop me from thinking they would benifit from Capcom more.)



Operation Rainfall, enough said about that. Also yes they would be alienating fans, Persona is not on nintendo systems and mainline SMT games weren't on handhelds before 4. So by putting mainline SMT on handhelds and Persona on nintendo consoles, they will alienate fans. 

not if they go to the 3ds (aka the healthiest platform in japan) I mean its not like persona games are known for gorgeous visuals. Even p4G looked like an upressed Ps2 game

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SONY!!
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#218 Bigboi500
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Nintendo or Namco.

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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Pleeease let it be Square. Atlus with a Square budget would be godlike. FlamesOfGrey
Problem with that is SE is moving primarily towards mobile gaming.

I wouldn't say primarily kingdom hearts 3 and final fantasy XV both cost square alot more to make then any mobile game square makes.
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#220 GD1551
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not if they go to the 3ds (aka the healthiest platform in japan) I mean its not like persona games are known for gorgeous visuals. Even p4G looked like an upressed Ps2 game

Shinobishyguy

Because by all accounts it probably was. At the same time SMT4 doesn't look near as good so it will be a standards drop.

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#221 Midnightshade29
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Oh god, I hope Capcom doesn't get them.

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Thisss...... 90% of the games would be canned as they don't sell 4million plus copies. Also Nintendo and MS better not put their grubby mits on this company! I could see a non-gaming company buying them to get their foot in the door, or a private investor, which is probably what is going to happen.
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#223 deactivated-5b19c359a3789
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Atlus would be relegated to 3DS developer with Nintendo.

I'd sacrifice the odd 3DS title to keep them on Vita and PS3/4. Sony is the least unpleasant solution.

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#224 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Atlus would be relegated to 3DS developer with Nintendo.

I'd sacrifice the odd 3DS title to keep them on Vita and PS3/4. Sony is the least unpleasant solution.

syztem

Not really they are already making a Wii U title for Nintendo that is co-developed by Intelligent Systems.

I would prefer a 3rd Party over a 1st Party since I don't want Sony or Microsoft to purchase Atlus and cancelling that game they are working with Nintendo on.

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#225 The_Power_of_X
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Oh god please don't let it be Nintendo who buys them. That would be an utmost travesty. Hell I would rather Sony buy them and keep them working solely on their crappy handheld than Nintendo getting them. Capcom would be just as bad.

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#226 Demonjoe93
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I'd like to see Nintendo buy them.

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#227 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

not if they go to the 3ds (aka the healthiest platform in japan) I mean its not like persona games are known for gorgeous visuals. Even p4G looked like an upressed Ps2 game

GD1551

Because by all accounts it probably was. At the same time SMT4 doesn't look near as good so it will be a standards drop.

why is it with nintendo haters always cowering behind the standards excuse whenever on of their platforms does well? A good game is a good game, deal with it
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#228 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

not if they go to the 3ds (aka the healthiest platform in japan) I mean its not like persona games are known for gorgeous visuals. Even p4G looked like an upressed Ps2 game

Shinobishyguy

Because by all accounts it probably was. At the same time SMT4 doesn't look near as good so it will be a standards drop.

why is it with nintendo haters always cowering behind the standards excuse whenever on of their platforms does well? A good game is a good game, deal with it

What? There's obviously a drop in standard going from a home console to a handheld..... the battles are cards FFS.

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#229 takeastake
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They aren't really looking to be sold. They are just going to be sponsored by another company. Atlus will continue making their own games so I don't care too much where they go
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#230 Midnightshade29
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Anything that results in Persona 5 being on PS3, PS4, PS Vita, or 3DS will keep me happy.

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This Right here.... (as I own all of those ... like any well rounded gamer should) anywhere else..forget it!
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Because by all accounts it probably was. At the same time SMT4 doesn't look near as good so it will be a standards drop.

GD1551

why is it with nintendo haters always cowering behind the standards excuse whenever on of their platforms does well? A good game is a good game, deal with it

What? There's obviously a drop in standard going from a home console to a handheld..... the battles are cards FFS.

Yeah there is always some sort of standard drop going form console to a nintendo handheld. Look at Castlevania SOTN, and Final Fantasy Tacitcs... The 4 metroidvania games on GB-Ds all paled in comparison to SOTN... They weren't as large of games, the sprite never really changed. In SOTN you had different colored cloaks, each weapon was unique 4-5 slots for equipment (dedicated for body part), and tons of spells and relics. Everything was cut in half down to the lack of equipment slots.

 

FF Tactics on PS1 was a masterpiece, and the remake on PSP was as well (same with Tactics Ogre on PSP), but look at FF tactics on GBA - DS... they turned a mature story with great characters into a children's story with snowball fights, and bs animal raced characters to cater to kids... Which is down right dumb as kids don't like FF. At least not in the states (I should know , I have tried getting my own kids and my younger cousins into jrpgs and FF and such and they can't stand them, never even heard of them... and would rather play fast twitch games like Cod )

 

So yeah, just about everytime something goes to the DS brand handhelds (3ds not excluded) it gets nerfed. I can't tell you how many times I played a game on DS-3ds and wished it was on the psp or vita... It would of looked and played so much better. There is a reason why this is. the DS/3ds line lacks video ram and rom cart size is pittifully small. Not saying there isn't good games on those platforms, there is and I own them, but the games would be better on better hardware.

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#232 madsnakehhh
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Nintendo...but only because i would love to have Persona 5 on the 3DS and who knows, maybe on WiiU.

Also, Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei is like a dream come true.

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. There is a reason why this is. the DS/3ds line lacks video ram and rom cart size is pittifully small. Not saying there isn't good games on those platforms, there is and I own them, but the games would be better on better hardware.Midnightshade29
You do realize that the max cart size for the 3DS is 8GB, right? Add in SD storage and digital downloads, and cartridge size is starting to become less and less of a factor. Oh, and lol at Etrian Odyssey on PSP/Vita.
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#234 Midnightshade29
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[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]. There is a reason why this is. the DS/3ds line lacks video ram and rom cart size is pittifully small. Not saying there isn't good games on those platforms, there is and I own them, but the games would be better on better hardware.hiphops_savior
You do realize that the max cart size for the 3DS is 8GB, right? Add in SD storage and digital downloads, and cartridge size is starting to become less and less of a factor. Oh, and lol at Etrian Odyssey on PSP/Vita.

Not saying all games. Etrian Odyssey 4 wouldn't work, and I wouldn't want it to... but games like Monster Hunter and Resident Evil, or Tales of the Abyss would all look more colorful and wonderful on the OLED screen. If you compare playing monster hunter freedom unite on the vita with dual sticks and a larger screen compared to playing on 3ds with the monstrous 2nd nub extender (which I own), it's no contest. Freedom unite plays and looks better, everything is easier to see and the controls rock with actual sticks. And lets not even get into the horrible battery life. It feels like the battery dies 10x faster on the OG 3ds than on vita, and I refuse to turn 3d off as its a main feature. The XL isn't the solution either as the pixel resolution stays the same, it would make things more blocky and aliased , not cleaner. If they doubled the resolution and pumped up the gpu and clock speed to upscale it would be ok, but they don't. For games actually designed for the DS/NDs, I wouldn't want to play them anywhere else, (games like EO4, Fire Emblem, Zelda OOT, and games like Trauma Center, Dust Room 215, and dark spire). Games like the castlevania and FF tactics, 3d roleplaying , and Shooters I would prefer on the vita.