Battlefield 3 is SUB HD on both PS3 and Xbox 360.

Yep, both will run at 1280x704 (i.e. barely below 720p).

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lundy86_4

glad ill be playing it @ 1920 x 1200 :)

i dont class full hd as any thing under 1920 eg 1920x1080 is 1080p for me etc and not 1200 odd x 1080 thats just not proper hd, ill be playing bf3 in 1200p :)

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Yep, both will run at 1280x704 (i.e. barely below 720p).

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Yrkoon99

glad ill be playing it @ 1920 x 1200 :)

[QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Yep, both will run at 1280x704 (i.e. barely below 720p).

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mitu123

glad ill be playing it @ 1920 x 1200 :)

aww on the plus side 1200p monitors are cheap as hell but hard to find now since their all 1080 p now :(

when i built my current comp in august 2009 i went for a 24 inch cheapo panel 1920x1200 one and a year later when i persuaded dad to build a new comp my parts were still best bang per buck so to speak but there was no 1200p monitors just 1080p ones :(

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

glad ill be playing it @ 1920 x 1200 :)

Yrkoon99

aww on the plus side 1200p monitors are cheap as hell but hard to find now since their all 1080 p now :(

[QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] I need a new monitor to get that res.:cry:

mitu123

aww on the plus side 1200p monitors are cheap as hell but hard to find now since their all 1080 p now :(

ah your rapid at posting lol i edited my post :) above yours yeh its hard to find 1200p monitors now :(

edit: my monitor is ok if your sitting infront of it but it has poor viewing angles and a cheap panel and when i came to spec dad a comp on ocuk there were no monitors with this res mode i paid 129 pounds for mine, now their all 1080p :(

edit 2: had a radeon 4850 1 gig ddr3 powering it but felt like i needed more power so recently got a saphire extreme 5850 with 1 gig ddr5 on it for 108 pounds, 4850 card was a stop gap and it was 80 pounds in 2009 :)

Clear sign that its time to move on to a new generation of consoles.

Textures are getting better, enviroments bigger, so the developer is forced to scale down the resolution to make the game playable at 29/30 fps. End of the year will mark the 6th year anniversary of the Xbox 360, and the 5th one from PS3. Time to move on...

26whitewolf

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

aww on the plus side 1200p monitors are cheap as hell but hard to find now since their all 1080 p now :(

Yrkoon99

ah your rapid at posting lol i edited my post :) above yours yeh its hard to find 1200p monitors now :(

edit: my monitor is ok if your sitting infront of it but it has poor viewing angles and a cheap panel and when i came to spec dad a comp on ocuk there were no monitors with this res mode i paid 129 pounds for mine, now their all 1080p :(

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254052

[QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] I'll go on newegg.

mitu123

ah your rapid at posting lol i edited my post :) above yours yeh its hard to find 1200p monitors now :(

edit: my monitor is ok if your sitting infront of it but it has poor viewing angles and a cheap panel and when i came to spec dad a comp on ocuk there were no monitors with this res mode i paid 129 pounds for mine, now their all 1080p :(

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254052

yep thats a 1080p monitor just like the one dad had to get, while mine is 1200p 1920x1200 not 1920x1080 :)

eidt: my panel on mine is a tn panel and has very poor viewing angles, while dads 1080p monitor has a much better panel

edit 2: my samsung galaxy s has a better panel than my monitor

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

ah your rapid at posting lol i edited my post :) above yours yeh its hard to find 1200p monitors now :(

edit: my monitor is ok if your sitting infront of it but it has poor viewing angles and a cheap panel and when i came to spec dad a comp on ocuk there were no monitors with this res mode i paid 129 pounds for mine, now their all 1080p :(

Yrkoon99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254052

yep thats a 1080p monitor just like the one dad had to get, while mine is 1200p 1920x1200 not 1920x1080 :)

eidt: my panel on mine is a tn panel and has very poor viewing angles, while dads 1080p monitor has a much better panel

edit 2: my samsung galaxy s has a better panel than my monitor

Samsung is normally awesome anyways.=p

[QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Eh, I want something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254052

mitu123

yep thats a 1080p monitor just like the one dad had to get, while mine is 1200p 1920x1200 not 1920x1080 :)

eidt: my panel on mine is a tn panel and has very poor viewing angles, while dads 1080p monitor has a much better panel

edit 2: my samsung galaxy s has a better panel than my monitor

Samsung is normally awesome anyways.=p

well grab it then :) my 1200p monitor is only 24 inches

edit 2: pc is also linked up to a 32 inch samsung tv :)

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

yep thats a 1080p monitor just like the one dad had to get, while mine is 1200p 1920x1200 not 1920x1080 :)

eidt: my panel on mine is a tn panel and has very poor viewing angles, while dads 1080p monitor has a much better panel

edit 2: my samsung galaxy s has a better panel than my monitor

Yrkoon99

Samsung is normally awesome anyways.=p

well grab it then :)

Will be getting some next week, but that's mainly for my new PC build and some games, so I'll wait a bit longer.

[QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Actually, it's a 1920x1200 monitor advertised as 1080p, and at 27.5 inches I would hope so!

Samsung is normally awesome anyways.=p

mitu123

well grab it then :)

Will be getting some next week, but that's mainly for my new PC build and some games, so I'll wait a bit longer.

ah kool just get the best bang per buck and dont skimp on motherboard or power supply and your sorted :)

i never skimped on my mother board got a decent am3 one and now its looking like ill have to upgrade it for bull dozer, 2 years later, but bulldozer might work on ,my board if it has 2 pins connected and a bios update from gigabyte :)

edit: amd are taking the piss with bulldozer ,amd want people like me to upgrade and change motherboards, but if were doing that why not go i5 2500k :(

mother b0ard companys are releasing bios updates for bull dozer on boards that have 2 pins connected lol

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

well grab it then :)

Yrkoon99

Will be getting some next week, but that's mainly for my new PC build and some games, so I'll wait a bit longer.

ah kool just get the best bang per buck and dont skimp on motherboard or power supply and your sorted :)

i never skimped on my mother board got a decent am3 one and now its looking like ill have to upgrade it for bull dozer, 2 years later, but bulldozer might work on ,my board if it has 2 pins connected and a bios update from gigabyte :)

edit: amd are taking the piss with bulldozer ,amd want people like me to upgrade and change motherboards, but if were doing that why not go i5 2500k :(

mother b0ard companys are releasing bios updates for bull dozer on boards that have 2 pins connected lol

Could care less since most games are sub HD.

Could care less since most games are sub HD.

HaloPimp978

what?????????the games are what ever resolution you select in the graphics menus, jesus christ.

[QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] I need money!!!=p

Will be getting some next week, but that's mainly for my new PC build and some games, so I'll wait a bit longer.

mitu123

ah kool just get the best bang per buck and dont skimp on motherboard or power supply and your sorted :)

i never skimped on my mother board got a decent am3 one and now its looking like ill have to upgrade it for bull dozer, 2 years later, but bulldozer might work on ,my board if it has 2 pins connected and a bios update from gigabyte :)

edit: amd are taking the piss with bulldozer ,amd want people like me to upgrade and change motherboards, but if were doing that why not go i5 2500k :(

mother b0ard companys are releasing bios updates for bull dozer on boards that have 2 pins connected lol

asrock make pretty good boards my old gaming pc is still going strong in the spare room with a asrock dual vsta main board and it over clocked the athlon 64 from 2.2ghz up to 2.78 ghz and never skipped a beat, its still going, but no wonder since asus owns asrock :) basically asus is asrock just their budget brand :)

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

ah kool just get the best bang per buck and dont skimp on motherboard or power supply and your sorted :)

i never skimped on my mother board got a decent am3 one and now its looking like ill have to upgrade it for bull dozer, 2 years later, but bulldozer might work on ,my board if it has 2 pins connected and a bios update from gigabyte :)

edit: amd are taking the piss with bulldozer ,amd want people like me to upgrade and change motherboards, but if were doing that why not go i5 2500k :(

mother b0ard companys are releasing bios updates for bull dozer on boards that have 2 pins connected lol

Yrkoon99

asrock make pretty good boards my old gaming pc is still going strong in the spare room with a asrock dual vsta main board and it over clocked the athlon 64 from 2.2ghz up to 2.78 ghz and never skipped a beat, its still going, but no wonder since asus owns asrock :) basically asus is asrock just their budget brand :)

Why would I have to do that? They are making a comparison it is their job to do that comparison not mine. If it was a full technical analysis they would have broken it down comparing all the different lighting techniques each game uses, actually showed off the games textures rather than using small pictures which don't represent a game. All they did was state a few things and say this is better and this isn't, not really a technical analysis. So no I'm not going to waste my time doing it. You keep bringing up these other sites saying crysis 2 looks better but I have never mentioned them (bar IGN once). It's odd they say that? It's a flat out lie and anyone with even some slight knowledge of the tech behind these games would know that. If these guys are so amazing at knowing the tech behind these games they would have never made a statement like that but they did which also shows a lack of knowledge. The congress being members not the staff. I said that because a staff member believes that crysis 2 looks better which would in turn prove that it's an opinion as to which looks better not fact as you so like to believe. Also by the mere fact there is a poll would also prove that it's opinion, if they thought their opinion was fact (like you do) they would never put a poll up.Also if you love polls so much, SW has had many stating that crysis 2 is the best looking game on consoles, in the end though they don't account for much.soulitane

I see that you have learned something about the ToU and you understand now ;), I hope this will help you in future! :)

1) I thought you would be willing to compare the both of them yourself, since I can tell you don't like the LOT article for that PC statement (and maybe it's conclusion by the staff? ;) ) but I understand you don't want to take the time to do so. The video was enough, Crysis 2 (X360) is not consistant enough, sub HD, fps drops, Killzone 3 having much more going on while the fps never taking a hit, etc. You can talk about the textures, the lightning, but you might as well take them into a huge pile and toss them out, because the LOT video comparison already proves at this point Crysis 2 (X360) is already beat, and like tormentos said:

Killzone is doing more,with more enemies on screen at once,no tear,no frame drops,and with better particle effects,look at how Crysis 2 rifle barely make sparks,that Killzone 3 rifle actually make one big X in parks every time you shoot it. How can people still claim that Crysis 2 look better than Killzone 3 blows my mind away,also Crysis 2 has to much fog,which we all know is been use for ages to cover imperfections.tormentos

Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, and Killzone 3 all beat Crysis 2 (X360) technically. Really, Crytek is at a disadvantage here, due to Crysis 2 being a multiplat, while Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, and Epic Games; All get to push their games on one platform.

2) You know I don't trust SW polls... :P

Why do I now see lemmings (Not calling you a lemming Soulitane) starting to say: "LOT is not credible" or "You can't go by LOT" :?....but in the past, when lensoftruth made many articles proving an X360 multiplat being superior to the PS3 version, many many times. They were credible then weren't they? ;) ...............Weren't they? :P Like, I don't understand.. Does it make lemmings mad, that they started off having the best looking games on consoles (Gears 1 and Gears 2), now that the Sony first party devs for the PS3 exclusives: Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, and Killzone 3 were blowing the best looking Xbox 360 exclusives out of the water and that the developers for the X360 exclusives weren't touching the PS3 exclusives in terms of visuals for like 3 years, and that lems had to rely on third party developers, hoping multiplat games like: Mass Effect 2, Splintercell: Conviction, Metro 2033, Red Dead Redemption, and now Crysis 2 (X360), would take the crown. But they still aren't able to beat out the PS3 exclusives? Is that what it is? ;) That's what it is isn't it? :) :lol:

Now, I'm sure if lensoftruth comes out with an article proving Gears 3 is technically the best looking game on consoles to date, Lensoftruth will matter now. :lol: I won't be trying to bring up the PC statement or any of that, I'll just accept it and move on, like it makes a difference to me. This thread has been going on for like a week now, and until you stop bringing up your opinion/other opinions and stay in the realm of Wesrcks13 and you can bring me another analysis/video from another place like Digital Foundry for example, (Isn't this how SW decides the best looking game on consoles in the first place?) or whatever the names of those other sites are that I see credible, that proves LOT wrong, I don't want this KZ3 vs. Crysis 2 (X360) discussion to continue. ;)

Conclusion: NO! :P Crysis 2 (X360) is NOT technically the best looking game on consoles, sorry... You may think it is..... ;) Some user can say Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best looking game on consoles, but it isn't accepted like that here on SW, this is basically what I am getting from you. I mean let's face it, Crysis 2 (X360) has been in out for about half a year now, you can just make a poll and see if the poll results will be the same during the Crysis 2 HYPE. :)

Conclusion: NO! :P Crysis 2 (X360) is NOT technically the best looking game on consoles, sorry... You may think it is..... ;) Some user can say Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best looking game on consoles, but it isn't accepted like that here on SW, this is basically what I am getting from you. I mean let's face it, Crysis 2 (X360) has been in out for about half a year now, you can just make a poll and see if the poll results will be the same during the Crysis 2 HYPE. :)

Wesrcks13

People actually think crysis 2 is technically the best looking game on consles? A sub HD sub 30 FPS game? Really? :lol:

[QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] I certainly won't, getting a $150+ mobo that's probably a Gigabyte, Asrock or Asus. And will get a Silverstone PSU. And yes, I'm upgrading to Bulldozer too, lol.

mitu123

asrock make pretty good boards my old gaming pc is still going strong in the spare room with a asrock dual vsta main board and it over clocked the athlon 64 from 2.2ghz up to 2.78 ghz and never skipped a beat, its still going, but no wonder since asus owns asrock :) basically asus is asrock just their budget brand :)

Personally, I avoid Asus boards now. They recent couple I've dealt with have been nothing but trouble. Incompatible ram issues and stuff like that.

I only go with Gigabyte now, I've built like 6 computers with Gigabyte's and they are amazing.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

asrock make pretty good boards my old gaming pc is still going strong in the spare room with a asrock dual vsta main board and it over clocked the athlon 64 from 2.2ghz up to 2.78 ghz and never skipped a beat, its still going, but no wonder since asus owns asrock :) basically asus is asrock just their budget brand :)

DragonfireXZ95

Personally, I avoid Asus boards now. They recent couple I've dealt with have been nothing but trouble. Incompatible ram issues and stuff like that.

I only go with Gigabyte now, I've built like 6 computers with Gigabyte's and they are amazing.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514

[QUOTE="soulitane"]

Why would I have to do that? They are making a comparison it is their job to do that comparison not mine. If it was a full technical analysis they would have broken it down comparing all the different lighting techniques each game uses, actually showed off the games textures rather than using small pictures which don't represent a game. All they did was state a few things and say this is better and this isn't, not really a technical analysis. So no I'm not going to waste my time doing it. You keep bringing up these other sites saying crysis 2 looks better but I have never mentioned them (bar IGN once). It's odd they say that? It's a flat out lie and anyone with even some slight knowledge of the tech behind these games would know that. If these guys are so amazing at knowing the tech behind these games they would have never made a statement like that but they did which also shows a lack of knowledge. The congress being members not the staff. I said that because a staff member believes that crysis 2 looks better which would in turn prove that it's an opinion as to which looks better not fact as you so like to believe. Also by the mere fact there is a poll would also prove that it's opinion, if they thought their opinion was fact (like you do) they would never put a poll up.Also if you love polls so much, SW has had many stating that crysis 2 is the best looking game on consoles, in the end though they don't account for much.Wesrcks13

I see that you have learned something about the ToU and you understand now ;), I hope this will help you in future! :)

1) I thought you would be willing to compare the both of them yourself, since I can tell you don't like the LOT article for that PC statement (and maybe it's conclusion by the staff? ;) ) but I understand you don't want to take the time to do so. The video was enough, Crysis 2 (X360) is not consistant enough, sub HD, fps drops, Killzone 3 having much more going on while the fps never taking a hit, etc. You can talk about the textures, the lightning, but you might as well take them into a huge pile and toss them out, because the LOT video comparison already proves at this point Crysis 2 (X360) is already beat, and like tormentos said:

Killzone is doing more,with more enemies on screen at once,no tear,no frame drops,and with better particle effects,look at how Crysis 2 rifle barely make sparks,that Killzone 3 rifle actually make one big X in parks every time you shoot it. How can people still claim that Crysis 2 look better than Killzone 3 blows my mind away,also Crysis 2 has to much fog,which we all know is been use for ages to cover imperfections.tormentos

Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, and Killzone 3 all beat Crysis 2 (X360) technically. Really, Crytek is at a disadvantage here, due to Crysis 2 being a multiplat, while Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, and Epic Games; All get to push their games on one platform.

2) You know I don't trust SW polls... :P

Why do I now see lemmings (Not calling you a lemming Soulitane) starting to say: "LOT is not credible" or "You can't go by LOT" :?....but in the past, when lensoftruth made many articles proving an X360 multiplat being superior to the PS3 version, many many times. They were credible then weren't they? ;) ...............Weren't they? :P Like, I don't understand.. Does it make lemmings mad, that they started off having the best looking games on consoles (Gears 1 and Gears 2), now that the Sony first party devs for the PS3 exclusives: Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, and Killzone 3 were blowing the best looking Xbox 360 exclusives out of the water and that the developers for the X360 exclusives weren't touching the PS3 exclusives in terms of visuals for like 3 years, and that lems had to rely on third party developers, hoping multiplat games like: Mass Effect 2, Splintercell: Conviction, Metro 2033, Red Dead Redemption, and now Crysis 2 (X360), would take the crown. But they still aren't able to beat out the PS3 exclusives? Is that what it is? ;) That's what it is isn't it? :) :lol:

Now, I'm sure if lensoftruth comes out with an article proving Gears 3 is technically the best looking game on consoles to date, Lensoftruth will matter now. :lol: I won't be trying to bring up the PC statement or any of that, I'll just accept it and move on, like it makes a difference to me. This thread has been going on for like a week now, and until you stop bringing up your opinion/other opinions and stay in the realm of Wesrcks13 and you can bring me another analysis/video from another place like Digital Foundry for example, (Isn't this how SW decides the best looking game on consoles in the first place?) or whatever the names of those other sites are that I see credible, that proves LOT wrong, I don't want this KZ3 vs. Crysis 2 (X360) discussion to continue. ;)

Conclusion: NO! :P Crysis 2 (X360) is NOT technically the best looking game on consoles, sorry... You may think it is..... ;) Some user can say Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best looking game on consoles, but it isn't accepted like that here on SW, this is basically what I am getting from you. I mean let's face it, Crysis 2 (X360) has been in out for about half a year now, you can just make a poll and see if the poll results will be the same during the Crysis 2 HYPE. :)

SW for the time I have been here hasn't been able to give a clear consensus on what game actually is the "console graphics king", everyone has always had a different opinion on what it is. Now is no different

You bring up lemmings and all that but what does that have to do with anything I have said? As you said I am not a lemming and quite a few posters here consider me to be unbias (or at least as close to it as one can get). So that has absolutely no relavance here and Idon't know why you bought it up. I couldn't care less which console has the CGK, my favourite game on the PS3 is yakuza 3, which looks pretty bad most of the time. All the games that are up for the CGK title hold little interest for me. Even crysis 2 was only worth a single playthrough, they might have the best graphics but they aren't always the best games.

Also why bring up someone elses opinion who posts on the forum if you're not willing to accept that people can think that crysis 2 is CGK? His opinion holds as much relavance as theirs and according to you their opinion doesn't matter.

You don't trust system war polls but their polls are somehow better?

Your last paragraph leads me to believe you don't fully know what my point has been all this time. As I have always said on this forum, the CGK is completely opinionated and the difference is generally so minimal which is why people here can never decide. I never said crysis 2 was CGK, I have always been saying that it all comes down to opinion which one is the best. Which is why we all these CGK threads around the place.

You don't trust system war polls but their polls are somehow better?

You said:

"until you stop bringing up your opinion/other opinions and stay in the realm of Wesrcks13 and you can bring me another analysis/video from another place like Digital Foundry for example, (Isn't this how SW decides the best looking game on consoles in the first place?) or whatever the names of those other sites are that I see credible, that proves LOT wrong, I don't want this KZ3 vs. Crysis 2 (X360) discussion to continue"

Why does it matter if YOU see it as credible, why not formulate an opinion of your own by playing the game? Why do we need to have a site judge for us which is better and which isn't? I have played crysis 2 and it looks pretty damn good in motion and just as that site said, you never really notice any of the FPS drops or the pop in while playing. The game looks fantastic. If you disagree with what I said then that's your opinion and just like everyone else you are entitled to it but others opinions aren't wrong just because a single site and some people say otherwise :)

SW for the time I have been here hasn't been able to give a clear consensus on what game actually is the "console graphics king", everyone has always had a different opinion on what it is. Now is no different

You bring up lemmings and all that but what does that have to do with anything I have said? As you said I am not a lemming and quite a few posters here consider me to be unbias (or at least as close to it as one can get). So that has absolutely no relavance here and Idon't know why you bought it up. I couldn't care less which console has the CGK, my favourite game on the PS3 is yakuza 3, which looks pretty bad most of the time. All the games that are up for the CGK title hold little interest for me. Even crysis 2 was only worth a single playthrough, they might have the best graphics but they aren't always the best games.

Also why bring up someone elses opinion who posts on the forum if you're not willing to accept that people can think that crysis 2 is CGK? His opinion holds as much relavance as theirs and according to you their opinion doesn't matter.

You don't trust system war polls but their polls are somehow better?

Your last paragraph leads me to believe you don't fully know what my point has been all this time. As I have always said on this forum, the CGK is completely opinionated and the difference is generally so minimal which is why people here can never decide. I never said crysis 2 was CGK, I have always been saying that it all comes down to opinion which one is the best. Which is why we all these CGK threads around the place.

You don't trust system war polls but their polls are somehow better?

You said:

"until you stop bringing up your opinion/other opinions and stay in the realm of Wesrcks13 and you can bring me another analysis/video from another place like Digital Foundry for example, (Isn't this how SW decides the best looking game on consoles in the first place?) or whatever the names of those other sites are that I see credible, that proves LOT wrong, I don't want this KZ3 vs. Crysis 2 (X360) discussion to continue"

Why does it matter if YOU see it as credible, why not formulate an opinion of your own by playing the game? Why do we need to have a site judge for us which is better and which isn't? I have played crysis 2 and it looks pretty damn good in motion and just as that site said, you never really notice any of the FPS drops or the pop in while playing. The game looks fantastic. If you disagree with what I said then that's your opinion and just like everyone else you are entitled to it but others opinions aren't wrong just because a single site and some people say otherwise :)

soulitane

The part about lemmings wasn't towards you. :P You didn't have to read that part. :)

I don't trust System Wars polls for many reasons, and in this case the polls could be voted by many users who haven't played either game. Alts, and other factions that just want to see the PS3 game lose... (Kinda like the HYPE threads for exclusives) And most of those polls were during Crysis 2's launch so the HYPE for that game was there, I think I even remember Alan Wake threads/polls claiming it was better than Uncharted 2's graphics during the Alan Wake HYPE, The LOT staff overall decided Killzone 3 was better technically, yes one staff thought Crysis 2 (X360) is better, and there are many here that believe Crysis 2 (X360) is better too. Here's the problem with those users, I just don't accept their opinion without doing a comparison/analysis/video/etc. To support their claim, and show me their points. Until then, I have to stick with LOT. But you're right, it is an opinion if the user's opinion is credible or not. :P

I also don't follow CGK threads, but they are all over System Wars... So you can get an idea on what's going on, right now I think Uncharted 2/Gears 3 are fighting over the crown. :P But, this is something I want to say, there are no more threads on Crysis 2 (X360) and I think if a thread today had the topic asking if Crysis 2 (X360) was the best looking game on consoles to date, I'm sure it won't win.

I have played Killzone 3 and I thought it looked fantastic, with everything going on and the framerate never taking a hit, just like the video/analysis said. I'm almost certain that System Wars has some kind of way to decide what is the official graphics king, maybe not I guess. It's true, one site and some people can't break the balance between opinion and fact here. :)

[QUOTE="soulitane"]

SW for the time I have been here hasn't been able to give a clear consensus on what game actually is the "console graphics king", everyone has always had a different opinion on what it is. Now is no different

You bring up lemmings and all that but what does that have to do with anything I have said? As you said I am not a lemming and quite a few posters here consider me to be unbias (or at least as close to it as one can get). So that has absolutely no relavance here and Idon't know why you bought it up. I couldn't care less which console has the CGK, my favourite game on the PS3 is yakuza 3, which looks pretty bad most of the time. All the games that are up for the CGK title hold little interest for me. Even crysis 2 was only worth a single playthrough, they might have the best graphics but they aren't always the best games.

Also why bring up someone elses opinion who posts on the forum if you're not willing to accept that people can think that crysis 2 is CGK? His opinion holds as much relavance as theirs and according to you their opinion doesn't matter.

You don't trust system war polls but their polls are somehow better?

Your last paragraph leads me to believe you don't fully know what my point has been all this time. As I have always said on this forum, the CGK is completely opinionated and the difference is generally so minimal which is why people here can never decide. I never said crysis 2 was CGK, I have always been saying that it all comes down to opinion which one is the best. Which is why we all these CGK threads around the place.

You don't trust system war polls but their polls are somehow better?

You said:

"until you stop bringing up your opinion/other opinions and stay in the realm of Wesrcks13 and you can bring me another analysis/video from another place like Digital Foundry for example, (Isn't this how SW decides the best looking game on consoles in the first place?) or whatever the names of those other sites are that I see credible, that proves LOT wrong, I don't want this KZ3 vs. Crysis 2 (X360) discussion to continue"

Why does it matter if YOU see it as credible, why not formulate an opinion of your own by playing the game? Why do we need to have a site judge for us which is better and which isn't? I have played crysis 2 and it looks pretty damn good in motion and just as that site said, you never really notice any of the FPS drops or the pop in while playing. The game looks fantastic. If you disagree with what I said then that's your opinion and just like everyone else you are entitled to it but others opinions aren't wrong just because a single site and some people say otherwise :)

Wesrcks13

The part about lemmings wasn't towards you. :P You didn't have to read that part. :)

I don't trust System Wars polls for many reasons, and in this case the polls could be voted by many users who haven't played either game. Alts, and other factions that just want to see the PS3 game lose... (Kinda like the HYPE threads for exclusives) And most of those polls were during Crysis 2's launch so the HYPE for that game was there, I think I even remember Alan Wake threads/polls claiming it was better than Uncharted 2's graphics during the Alan Wake HYPE, The LOT staff overall decided Killzone 3 was better technically, yes one staff thought Crysis 2 (X360) is better, and there are many here that believe Crysis 2 (X360) is better too. Here's the problem with those users, I just don't accept their opinion without doing a comparison/analysis/video/etc. To support their claim, and show me their points. Until then, I have to stick with LOT. But you're right, it is an opinion if the user's opinion is credible or not. :P

I also don't follow CGK threads, but they are all over System Wars... So you can get an idea on what's going on, right now I think Uncharted 2/Gears 3 are fighting over the crown. :P But, this is something I want to say, there are no more threads on Crysis 2 (X360) and I think if a thread today had the topic asking if Crysis 2 (X360) was the best looking game on consoles to date, I'm sure it won't win.

I have played Killzone 3 and I thought it looked fantastic, with everything going on and the framerate never taking a hit, just like the video/analysis said. I'm almost certain that System Wars has some kind of way to decide what is the official graphics king, maybe not I guess. It's true, one site and some people can't break the balance between opinion and fact here. :)

Alan Wake may not look as good as the best on consoles but the game still looks amazing and I'm pretty sure the only people after launch saying it looked better than UC2 were... well a certain type of user :wink:

Whether you accept them or not doesn't mean they are wrong in their opinion. I enjoyed Yakuza 1 and 2 far more than most AAA games, just because a review thinks it's only worth A doesn't mean my opinion is wrong but nor does it mean theirs is wrong either.

If we were to have a thread today it probably wouldn't win in votes but it will still have people voting for it and thus meaning there are people who have the opinion that it is the best looking game on consoles. Also there is no "official" way to decide what the overall CGK is, generally people just use polls but most of the time the winner changes and people have completely differing opinions on which looks better. Even with the PS3 exclusives they find it hard to decide which further just proves the point it's all just an opinion. You will never get SW to agree on anything, or at least they agree on next to nothing.

Also no bold :o

So MW3 is guaranteed to be superior on consoles, right? 60 FPS...

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

asrock make pretty good boards my old gaming pc is still going strong in the spare room with a asrock dual vsta main board and it over clocked the athlon 64 from 2.2ghz up to 2.78 ghz and never skipped a beat, its still going, but no wonder since asus owns asrock :) basically asus is asrock just their budget brand :)

DragonfireXZ95

Personally, I avoid Asus boards now. They recent couple I've dealt with have been nothing but trouble. Incompatible ram issues and stuff like that.

I only go with Gigabyte now, I've built like 6 computers with Gigabyte's and they are amazing.

my dads current motherboard with a phenom II 955 is an asus board and hes not had a single problem. and his am3 board has a better chance at taking a bulldozer cpu than my gigabyte one :)

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Now I'm having thoughts about them.=pYrkoon99

Personally, I avoid Asus boards now. They recent couple I've dealt with have been nothing but trouble. Incompatible ram issues and stuff like that.

I only go with Gigabyte now, I've built like 6 computers with Gigabyte's and they are amazing.

my dads current motherboard with a phenom II 955 is an asus board and hes not had a single problem.

I never said all Asus boards were bad, it's just the troubles I had with a couple of them. So I avoid them now.

Also I installed Windows 7 on my old Asus mobo custom PC, and the PC doesn't shut down normally now(Xp shut down fine). It goes to a black screen and then I have to shut it off manually. Just too many incompatibility issues on those boards for my taste.

Everyone knows that console games run in low resolutions why does it need to be posted everyday?

Everyone knows that console games run in low resolutions why does it need to be posted everyday?

tenaka2

I'll be getting the almighty pc version. So I'll get to play it at 1080p :):)

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Everyone knows that console games run in low resolutions why does it need to be posted everyday?

ActionRemix

Meh, I needed a bluray player anyhow lol

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Everyone knows that console games run in low resolutions why does it need to be posted everyday?

tenaka2

Meh, I needed a bluray player anyhow lol

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"] To help offset buyer's remorse? :PActionRemix

Meh, I needed a bluray player anyhow lol

I tend to mostly play on PC, its not just about graphics but about the games, most of the console games come across as a bit kiddy.

[QUOTE="Wesrcks13"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"]

SW for the time I have been here hasn't been able to give a clear consensus on what game actually is the "console graphics king", everyone has always had a different opinion on what it is. Now is no different

You bring up lemmings and all that but what does that have to do with anything I have said? As you said I am not a lemming and quite a few posters here consider me to be unbias (or at least as close to it as one can get). So that has absolutely no relavance here and Idon't know why you bought it up. I couldn't care less which console has the CGK, my favourite game on the PS3 is yakuza 3, which looks pretty bad most of the time. All the games that are up for the CGK title hold little interest for me. Even crysis 2 was only worth a single playthrough, they might have the best graphics but they aren't always the best games.

Also why bring up someone elses opinion who posts on the forum if you're not willing to accept that people can think that crysis 2 is CGK? His opinion holds as much relavance as theirs and according to you their opinion doesn't matter.

You don't trust system war polls but their polls are somehow better?

Your last paragraph leads me to believe you don't fully know what my point has been all this time. As I have always said on this forum, the CGK is completely opinionated and the difference is generally so minimal which is why people here can never decide. I never said crysis 2 was CGK, I have always been saying that it all comes down to opinion which one is the best. Which is why we all these CGK threads around the place.

You don't trust system war polls but their polls are somehow better?

You said:

"until you stop bringing up your opinion/other opinions and stay in the realm of Wesrcks13 and you can bring me another analysis/video from another place like Digital Foundry for example, (Isn't this how SW decides the best looking game on consoles in the first place?) or whatever the names of those other sites are that I see credible, that proves LOT wrong, I don't want this KZ3 vs. Crysis 2 (X360) discussion to continue"

Why does it matter if YOU see it as credible, why not formulate an opinion of your own by playing the game? Why do we need to have a site judge for us which is better and which isn't? I have played crysis 2 and it looks pretty damn good in motion and just as that site said, you never really notice any of the FPS drops or the pop in while playing. The game looks fantastic. If you disagree with what I said then that's your opinion and just like everyone else you are entitled to it but others opinions aren't wrong just because a single site and some people say otherwise :)

soulitane

The part about lemmings wasn't towards you. :P You didn't have to read that part. :)

I don't trust System Wars polls for many reasons, and in this case the polls could be voted by many users who haven't played either game. Alts, and other factions that just want to see the PS3 game lose... (Kinda like the HYPE threads for exclusives) And most of those polls were during Crysis 2's launch so the HYPE for that game was there, I think I even remember Alan Wake threads/polls claiming it was better than Uncharted 2's graphics during the Alan Wake HYPE, The LOT staff overall decided Killzone 3 was better technically, yes one staff thought Crysis 2 (X360) is better, and there are many here that believe Crysis 2 (X360) is better too. Here's the problem with those users, I just don't accept their opinion without doing a comparison/analysis/video/etc. To support their claim, and show me their points. Until then, I have to stick with LOT. But you're right, it is an opinion if the user's opinion is credible or not. :P

I also don't follow CGK threads, but they are all over System Wars... So you can get an idea on what's going on, right now I think Uncharted 2/Gears 3 are fighting over the crown. :P But, this is something I want to say, there are no more threads on Crysis 2 (X360) and I think if a thread today had the topic asking if Crysis 2 (X360) was the best looking game on consoles to date, I'm sure it won't win.

I have played Killzone 3 and I thought it looked fantastic, with everything going on and the framerate never taking a hit, just like the video/analysis said. I'm almost certain that System Wars has some kind of way to decide what is the official graphics king, maybe not I guess. It's true, one site and some people can't break the balance between opinion and fact here. :)

Alan Wake may not look as good as the best on consoles but the game still looks amazing and I'm pretty sure the only people after launch saying it looked better than UC2 were... well a certain type of user :wink:

Whether you accept them or not doesn't mean they are wrong in their opinion. I enjoyed Yakuza 1 and 2 far more than most AAA games, just because a review thinks it's only worth A doesn't mean my opinion is wrong but nor does it mean theirs is wrong either.

If we were to have a thread today it probably wouldn't win in votes but it will still have people voting for it and thus meaning there are people who have the opinion that it is the best looking game on consoles. Also there is no "official" way to decide what the overall CGK is, generally people just use polls but most of the time the winner changes and people have completely differing opinions on which looks better. Even with the PS3 exclusives they find it hard to decide which further just proves the point it's all just an opinion. You will never get SW to agree on anything, or at least they agree on next to nothing.

Also no bold :o

Before launch, Alan Wake was HYPE'd for it's graphics, Crysis 2 (X360) reminds me of it all over again. Lems HYPE'd it to be on-par/better looking than Uncharted 2, and then the sub HD announcement started to shut it all down, I remember it all. After launch... yeah Alan Wake wasn't widely accepted as the best looking console game here, like Uncharted 2 is.

I agree with this whole opinion thing, and as for System Wars never agreeing on anything, well... the board is called "System Wars", this really isn't a civilizied discussion board. I think it is a rule that if you want to speak your personal opinion, then it should be blogged. :P But this isn't the case if you are posting a link from lensofturh doing an analysis/video comparison to show that KZ3 has better resolution, better framerate (with more things going on too), better cinematics, vs. Crysis 2 (X60) Sub HD, 30 fps with drops, etc.

Same resolution both here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBH4rRdN8wI

I thought it would be entertaing as well.

AlphaJC

A lot of games are sub HD on consoles.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Yrkoon99"]

asrock make pretty good boards my old gaming pc is still going strong in the spare room with a asrock dual vsta main board and it over clocked the athlon 64 from 2.2ghz up to 2.78 ghz and never skipped a beat, its still going, but no wonder since asus owns asrock :) basically asus is asrock just their budget brand :)

DragonfireXZ95

Personally, I avoid Asus boards now. They recent couple I've dealt with have been nothing but trouble. Incompatible ram issues and stuff like that.

I only go with Gigabyte now, I've built like 6 computers with Gigabyte's and they are amazing.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Now I'm having thoughts about them.=pYrkoon99

Personally, I avoid Asus boards now. They recent couple I've dealt with have been nothing but trouble. Incompatible ram issues and stuff like that.

I only go with Gigabyte now, I've built like 6 computers with Gigabyte's and they are amazing.

my dads current motherboard with a phenom II 955 is an asus board and hes not had a single problem. and his am3 board has a better chance at taking a bulldozer cpu than my gigabyte one :)

Recommended settings are for high. VICTORY!

Recommended settings are for high. VICTORY!

GD1551

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Recommended settings are for high. VICTORY!

mitu123

http://bf3blog.com/2011/09/nvidia-preparing-special-drivers-for-battlefield-3-beta/

Mother of god...

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Recommended settings are for high. VICTORY!

ChubbyGuy40

http://bf3blog.com/2011/09/nvidia-preparing-special-drivers-for-battlefield-3-beta/

Mother of god...

[QUOTE="soulitane"]

[QUOTE="Wesrcks13"]

The part about lemmings wasn't towards you. :P You didn't have to read that part. :)

I don't trust System Wars polls for many reasons, and in this case the polls could be voted by many users who haven't played either game. Alts, and other factions that just want to see the PS3 game lose... (Kinda like the HYPE threads for exclusives) And most of those polls were during Crysis 2's launch so the HYPE for that game was there, I think I even remember Alan Wake threads/polls claiming it was better than Uncharted 2's graphics during the Alan Wake HYPE, The LOT staff overall decided Killzone 3 was better technically, yes one staff thought Crysis 2 (X360) is better, and there are many here that believe Crysis 2 (X360) is better too. Here's the problem with those users, I just don't accept their opinion without doing a comparison/analysis/video/etc. To support their claim, and show me their points. Until then, I have to stick with LOT. But you're right, it is an opinion if the user's opinion is credible or not. :P

I also don't follow CGK threads, but they are all over System Wars... So you can get an idea on what's going on, right now I think Uncharted 2/Gears 3 are fighting over the crown. :P But, this is something I want to say, there are no more threads on Crysis 2 (X360) and I think if a thread today had the topic asking if Crysis 2 (X360) was the best looking game on consoles to date, I'm sure it won't win.

I have played Killzone 3 and I thought it looked fantastic, with everything going on and the framerate never taking a hit, just like the video/analysis said. I'm almost certain that System Wars has some kind of way to decide what is the official graphics king, maybe not I guess. It's true, one site and some people can't break the balance between opinion and fact here. :)

Wesrcks13

Alan Wake may not look as good as the best on consoles but the game still looks amazing and I'm pretty sure the only people after launch saying it looked better than UC2 were... well a certain type of user :wink:

Whether you accept them or not doesn't mean they are wrong in their opinion. I enjoyed Yakuza 1 and 2 far more than most AAA games, just because a review thinks it's only worth A doesn't mean my opinion is wrong but nor does it mean theirs is wrong either.

If we were to have a thread today it probably wouldn't win in votes but it will still have people voting for it and thus meaning there are people who have the opinion that it is the best looking game on consoles. Also there is no "official" way to decide what the overall CGK is, generally people just use polls but most of the time the winner changes and people have completely differing opinions on which looks better. Even with the PS3 exclusives they find it hard to decide which further just proves the point it's all just an opinion. You will never get SW to agree on anything, or at least they agree on next to nothing.

Also no bold :o

Before launch, Alan Wake was HYPE'd for it's graphics, Crysis 2 (X360) reminds me of it all over again. Lems HYPE'd it to be on-par/better looking than Uncharted 2, and then the sub HD announcement started to shut it all down, I remember it all. After launch... yeah Alan Wake wasn't widely accepted as the best looking console game here, like Uncharted 2 is.

I agree with this whole opinion thing, and as for System Wars never agreeing on anything, well... the board is called "System Wars", this really isn't a civilizied discussion board. I think it is a rule that if you want to speak your personal opinion, then it should be blogged. :P But this isn't the case if you are posting a link from lensofturh doing an analysis/video comparison to show that KZ3 has better resolution, better framerate (with more things going on too), better cinematics, vs. Crysis 2 (X60) Sub HD, 30 fps with drops, etc.

I don't care about so called "sub" HD. I didn't care about Red dead redemption or Halo Reach or any of the other stupid "sub" HD claims. They look awesome and they look great in HD, who the hell honestly cares about "sub" HD? Who the hell is going to notice? People that do are fanboys and and graphics whores. As long as the game looks great and looks like it's in HD what's the big deal?

I honestly don't see what theproblem is here....

I don't care about so called "sub" HD. I didn't care about Red dead redemption or Halo Reach or any of the other stupid "sub" HD claims. They look awesome and they look great in HD, who the hell honestly cares about "sub" HD? Who the hell is going to notice? People that do are fanboys and and graphics whores. As long as the game looks great and looks like it's in HD what's the big deal?

I honestly don't see what theproblem is here....

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I don't care about so called "sub" HD. I didn't care about Red dead redemption or Halo Reach or any of the other stupid "sub" HD claims. They look awesome and they look great in HD, who the hell honestly cares about "sub" HD? Who the hell is going to notice? People that do are fanboys and and graphics whores. As long as the game looks great and looks like it's in HD what's the big deal?

I honestly don't see what theproblem is here....

SAGE_OF_FIRE

In your opinion, in mine I don't care. It looks great and that's all I (and most people)care about...

At this point we are going to have to agree to disagree. You would rather listen to other people and I would prefer people formulate their own opinions. It is not a rule that if you speak your own opinion it should be blogged, it's a rule that if you make a thread with no discussion it should be blogged.

soulitane

Ok, so you don't have to make a blog for that, thanks for clearing that up...

At this point, we are going to have to agree what you brought nothing to this argument, no links, nothing. So I'm still convinced that Crysis 2 (X360), sub HD with 30 FPS, is not technically the best looking game on consoles.

[QUOTE="soulitane"]

At this point we are going to have to agree to disagree. You would rather listen to other people and I would prefer people formulate their own opinions. It is not a rule that if you speak your own opinion it should be blogged, it's a rule that if you make a thread with no discussion it should be blogged.

Wesrcks13

Ok, so you don't have to make a blog for that, thanks for clearing that up...

At this point, we are going to have to agree what you brought nothing to this argument, no links, nothing. So I'm still convinced that Crysis 2 (X360), sub HD with 30 FPS, is not technically the best looking game on consoles.

Your whole argument has consisted of: this one site said one game> another therefore every other opinion is void and not worthwhile because if differs from mine and there's. People can have their own opinion and they are not wrong.