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#751 waahahah
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@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:

we are done.

later bro, not playing this BS anymore

What games, reading comprehension 101?

you can not have a stance on this subject without having a stance on the core question of its subject.

sorry when you are ready to be clear, I will listen, until then, not bye

Yes, I can, I believe there is a need to be well-written characters coming from more of a creative authentic place.

When you release a video featuring a disabled woman fighting on the front lines of ww2 in a game series that traditionally doesn't have featured soldiers and tries to portray battlefield somewhat authentically of the time period... it's clearly not a creative or sane way to introduce a lead woman in the next video game. And it comes off as motivated by activism and forced.

that is not a good enough clarification of your stance for me.

try again.

Well tough shit, I can't explain it for mentally challenged, if you don't get it by now you won't.

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#753 waahahah
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@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:

Yes, I can, I believe there is a need to be well-written characters coming from more of a creative authentic place.

When you release a video featuring a disabled woman fighting on the front lines of ww2 in a game series that traditionally doesn't have featured soldiers and tries to portray battlefield somewhat authentically of the time period... it's clearly not a creative or sane way to introduce a lead woman in the next video game. And it comes off as motivated by activism and forced.

that is not a good enough clarification of your stance for me.

try again.

Well tough shit, I can't explain it for mentally challenged, if you don't get it by now you won't.

like I said, in 25 years people on the Right have felt passionate that Hillary is a bad choice, but they never have been able to explain why.

something to think about late at night before going to sleep

thats because you aren't listening to people. Did you know house of cards is based on the Clinton?

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#754 TryIt
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@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:

What games, reading comprehension 101?

you can not have a stance on this subject without having a stance on the core question of its subject.

sorry when you are ready to be clear, I will listen, until then, not bye

Yes, I can, I believe there is a need to be well-written characters coming from more of a creative authentic place.

When you release a video featuring a disabled woman fighting on the front lines of ww2 in a game series that traditionally doesn't have featured soldiers and tries to portray battlefield somewhat authentically of the time period... it's clearly not a creative or sane way to introduce a lead woman in the next video game. And it comes off as motivated by activism and forced.

that is not a good enough clarification of your stance for me.

try again.

Well tough shit, I can't explain it for mentally challenged, if you don't get it by now you won't.

on this you dont get to say 'oh I never said I wanted more women in games oh and I never said I wanted less oh and I never said more women in games is a bad thing.

it is bitwise, if you are 'not for more women in games' then by default you are against more women in games, there is no neutral position based on your assertion, except for the fact you injected your out which was'i never said...' which means 'i never said either way/....' well you need to

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#755 TryIt
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@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:

Yes, I can, I believe there is a need to be well-written characters coming from more of a creative authentic place.

When you release a video featuring a disabled woman fighting on the front lines of ww2 in a game series that traditionally doesn't have featured soldiers and tries to portray battlefield somewhat authentically of the time period... it's clearly not a creative or sane way to introduce a lead woman in the next video game. And it comes off as motivated by activism and forced.

that is not a good enough clarification of your stance for me.

try again.

Well tough shit, I can't explain it for mentally challenged, if you don't get it by now you won't.

like I said, in 25 years people on the Right have felt passionate that Hillary is a bad choice, but they never have been able to explain why.

something to think about late at night before going to sleep

thats because you aren't listening to people. Did you know house of cards is based on the Clinton?

well it was the wrong response to the wrong thread but no, i have no fucking clue what that means.

again...work on the being clear part maybe

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Is the trailer for this game recreated from documentary footage ?

I vaguely remember seeing a redhead with a cybernetic arm, wearing some makeup and mowing through the nazis in an old docu on Discovery ... though, tbh I'm not certain about the hair color cause it was in black and white ...

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#757 TryIt
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@KiZZo1 said:

Is the trailer for this game recreated from documentary footage ?

I vaguely remember seeing a redhead with a cybernetic arm, wearing some makeup and mowing through the nazis in an old docu on Discovery ... though, tbh I'm not certain about the hair color cause it was in black and white ...

well to be clear, BF selling point list has never had 'historically accurate' near the top of the list. neither the fans nor the adverts really suggest that one of its main points is how historically accurate it is.

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#758  Edited By waahahah
Member since 2014 • 2462 Posts

@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:

Yes, I can, I believe there is a need to be well-written characters coming from more of a creative authentic place.

When you release a video featuring a disabled woman fighting on the front lines of ww2 in a game series that traditionally doesn't have featured soldiers and tries to portray battlefield somewhat authentically of the time period... it's clearly not a creative or sane way to introduce a lead woman in the next video game. And it comes off as motivated by activism and forced.

that is not a good enough clarification of your stance for me.

try again.

Well tough shit, I can't explain it for mentally challenged, if you don't get it by now you won't.

on this you dont get to say 'oh I never said I wanted more women in games oh and I never said I wanted less oh and I never said more women in games is a bad thing.

it is bitwise, if you are 'not for more women in games' then by default you are against more women in games, there is no neutral position based on your assertion, except for the fact you injected your out which was'i never said...' which means 'i never said either way/....' well you need to

Why don't I get to point out I didn't say things I didn't say. Its your failing for attributing ideas/conclusions to what I say...

No, its not bitwise. That's ridiculous. I do need to want more women in video games to see a game with a woman lead and choose to buy it because it looks like it's coming from a place of genuine creativity. I can also do that with men in video games. Its dealers choice, I see no reason to push for one over the other. Because pushing explicitly for more of one gender is sexist and discriminatory towards the other. And the same goes for race. Diversity quotas are sexist and racist.

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#759 waahahah
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@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:

that is not a good enough clarification of your stance for me.

try again.

Well tough shit, I can't explain it for mentally challenged, if you don't get it by now you won't.

like I said, in 25 years people on the Right have felt passionate that Hillary is a bad choice, but they never have been able to explain why.

something to think about late at night before going to sleep

thats because you aren't listening to people. Did you know house of cards is based on the Clinton?

well it was the wrong response to the wrong thread but no, i have no fucking clue what that means.

again...work on the being clear part maybe

Your saying there is no reason for people's hatred for Clinton, I pointed out a Netflix show, house of cards which depicts 2 highly corrupt government officials, is based on Hillary and Bill Clinton.

Maybe you aren't listening to these people or outright ignoring them like you do me.

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#760 TryIt
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@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:

Yes, I can, I believe there is a need to be well-written characters coming from more of a creative authentic place.

When you release a video featuring a disabled woman fighting on the front lines of ww2 in a game series that traditionally doesn't have featured soldiers and tries to portray battlefield somewhat authentically of the time period... it's clearly not a creative or sane way to introduce a lead woman in the next video game. And it comes off as motivated by activism and forced.

that is not a good enough clarification of your stance for me.

try again.

Well tough shit, I can't explain it for mentally challenged, if you don't get it by now you won't.

on this you dont get to say 'oh I never said I wanted more women in games oh and I never said I wanted less oh and I never said more women in games is a bad thing.

it is bitwise, if you are 'not for more women in games' then by default you are against more women in games, there is no neutral position based on your assertion, except for the fact you injected your out which was'i never said...' which means 'i never said either way/....' well you need to

.. I didn't say ...

that is not a position, that is just stating what is NOT your position, I am asking you what IS your position.

also, I dont care if its racist, sexist or not, I just want to know what your position is, do you think we should have more lead women in games or do you not.

I THINK your answer is no, no there should not be more lead women in games and actually I could agree with you on that, just for different reasons but I still dont know what the ^&*( your position IS...so dont tell me what it is NOT.

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#761  Edited By TryIt
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@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:

like I said, in 25 years people on the Right have felt passionate that Hillary is a bad choice, but they never have been able to explain why.

something to think about late at night before going to sleep

thats because you aren't listening to people. Did you know house of cards is based on the Clinton?

well it was the wrong response to the wrong thread but no, i have no fucking clue what that means.

again...work on the being clear part maybe

Your saying there is no reason for people's hatred for Clinton, I pointed out a Netflix show, house of cards which depicts 2 highly corrupt government officials, is based on Hillary and Bill Clinton.

Maybe you aren't listening to these people or outright ignoring them like you do me.

no its not based on them.

but even if it was that would be really really really weak

correction: I assume its not because the only 3 eposides I saw it was clear they were GOP.

so given that i really havent seen the show I dont know what specifici policies or stances you would be refering to.

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#762 waahahah
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@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:

like I said, in 25 years people on the Right have felt passionate that Hillary is a bad choice, but they never have been able to explain why.

something to think about late at night before going to sleep

thats because you aren't listening to people. Did you know house of cards is based on the Clinton?

well it was the wrong response to the wrong thread but no, i have no fucking clue what that means.

again...work on the being clear part maybe

Your saying there is no reason for people's hatred for Clinton, I pointed out a Netflix show, house of cards which depicts 2 highly corrupt government officials, is based on Hillary and Bill Clinton.

Maybe you aren't listening to these people or outright ignoring them like you do me.

no its not based on them.

but even if it was that would be really really really weak

why would it? Hillary outright lied to the American people, destabilized an entire region... bill had multiple sex scandals... one highly credible rape allegation, there was a very iffy death they were involved in...

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#763 TryIt
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@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:

thats because you aren't listening to people. Did you know house of cards is based on the Clinton?

well it was the wrong response to the wrong thread but no, i have no fucking clue what that means.

again...work on the being clear part maybe

Your saying there is no reason for people's hatred for Clinton, I pointed out a Netflix show, house of cards which depicts 2 highly corrupt government officials, is based on Hillary and Bill Clinton.

Maybe you aren't listening to these people or outright ignoring them like you do me.

no its not based on them.

but even if it was that would be really really really weak

why would it? Hillary outright lied to the American people, destabilized an entire region... bill had multiple sex scandals... one highly credible rape allegation, there was a very iffy death they were involved in...

you need to be more specific about items 1, 2,4 and 5

number 3 I could not care less about

and really if possible keep it on actual policy positions would be AWESOME!

also..keep in mind, the right has considered her the nightmare of choices since 1993, so these reasons need to go back that far.

GO!

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#764 waahahah
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@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:

we are done.

later bro, not playing this BS anymore

What games, reading comprehension 101?

you can not have a stance on this subject without having a stance on the core question of its subject.

sorry when you are ready to be clear, I will listen, until then, not bye

Yes, I can, I believe there is a need to be well-written characters coming from more of a creative authentic place.

When you release a video featuring a disabled woman fighting on the front lines of ww2 in a game series that traditionally doesn't have featured soldiers and tries to portray battlefield somewhat authentically of the time period... it's clearly not a creative or sane way to introduce a lead woman in the next video game. And it comes off as motivated by activism and forced.

that is not a good enough clarification of your stance for me.

try again.

also keep in mind, if the developer WANTS to do it, they are not being 'forced' AND you cant micromanage a developer into making good products by throwing around a SJW penalty flag

now. do you think there should be more women in game or not, because if you are going to debate the concern of women being in games you have to have a position on it.

Even if they want to do it, it's still an issue because it doesn't come across as authentic. And we won't know, but what we do know is out of the 4 people in the group, the woman was the one that was shown prominently, in a real-world setting and it looked outlandish and ridiculous... after multiple movies came out with CLEAR SJW policies its the worse time to have something that is... clearly pushing a female lead for the sake of a female lead. In this case, we can point at a clearly featured disabled female soldier in a game series that doesn't have normally feature individual soldiers, and also to point out, the trailer didn't show the other 3 male stylized protagonists. It depicted a realistic ww2 setting with an outlandish woman injected into the series. The SJW nature of how people perceived it was just 1 issue people had with it.

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#765  Edited By KiZZo1
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@tryit:

@KiZZo1 said:

Is the trailer for this game recreated from documentary footage ?

I vaguely remember seeing a redhead with a cybernetic arm, wearing some makeup and mowing through the nazis in an old docu on Discovery ... though, tbh I'm not certain about the hair color cause it was in black and white ...

The problem is that it's somewhat accurate ... With a game like Wolfenstein, where nazis have robots and use black magic, it's clear from the get go it's wild fiction.

Show this trailer to a kid, which has seen some of the very accurately modeled weapons and vehicles in documentaries, and there might be a tendency to believe that the rest of the facts presented are also derived from history. For example that there were hot redheads with prosthetic arms waging war on the western front ...

This selective presentation of facts and fiction is at the very least tasteless if you have at least some respect for the human cost of WW2.

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#766 waahahah
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@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:

well it was the wrong response to the wrong thread but no, i have no fucking clue what that means.

again...work on the being clear part maybe

Your saying there is no reason for people's hatred for Clinton, I pointed out a Netflix show, house of cards which depicts 2 highly corrupt government officials, is based on Hillary and Bill Clinton.

Maybe you aren't listening to these people or outright ignoring them like you do me.

no its not based on them.

but even if it was that would be really really really weak

why would it? Hillary outright lied to the American people, destabilized an entire region... bill had multiple sex scandals... one highly credible rape allegation, there was a very iffy death they were involved in...

you need to be more specific about items 1, 2,4 and 5

number 3 I could not care less about

and really if possible keep it on actual policy positions would be AWESOME!

also..keep in mind, the right has considered her the nightmare of choices since 1993, so these reasons need to go back that far.

GO!

They don't really since she was literally lying about, an email server, hiding details about an attack. Right before an election. People had a good reason to hate her.

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#767  Edited By TryIt
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@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:

you can not have a stance on this subject without having a stance on the core question of its subject.

sorry when you are ready to be clear, I will listen, until then, not bye

Yes, I can, I believe there is a need to be well-written characters coming from more of a creative authentic place.

When you release a video featuring a disabled woman fighting on the front lines of ww2 in a game series that traditionally doesn't have featured soldiers and tries to portray battlefield somewhat authentically of the time period... it's clearly not a creative or sane way to introduce a lead woman in the next video game. And it comes off as motivated by activism and forced.

that is not a good enough clarification of your stance for me.

try again.

also keep in mind, if the developer WANTS to do it, they are not being 'forced' AND you cant micromanage a developer into making good products by throwing around a SJW penalty flag

now. do you think there should be more women in game or not, because if you are going to debate the concern of women being in games you have to have a position on it.

Even if they want to do it, it's still an issue because it doesn't come across as authentic. ...

and thus making it literally impossible for developers to create more female roles.

but your position seems to be that you think there should NOT be more female roles and I agree with that! for different reasons most likely but I do agree, feminists should not push to have female lead roles in video games,but again, for different reasons then the nonesnse ou are spewing here.

but at the end of the day, I am not their creative director, they didnt hire me to consultant them on good story telling or immersive play and its very much not up to me to pull out the SJW penalty card simply because I think the story could be better. That is a lame reason to effectly become a SJW snowflake by being so active in opposition to what you do not agree with, when the substance of your complaint is over quality of story telling..i mean come on? not saving people from death row, no...just quality story telling as if anyone can force (which is what you are trying to do) them to do.

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#768 TryIt
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@KiZZo1 said:

@tryit:

@KiZZo1 said:

Is the trailer for this game recreated from documentary footage ?

I vaguely remember seeing a redhead with a cybernetic arm, wearing some makeup and mowing through the nazis in an old docu on Discovery ... though, tbh I'm not certain about the hair color cause it was in black and white ...

The problem is that it's somewhat accurate ... With a game like Wolfenstein, where nazis have robots and use black magic, it's clear from the get go it's wild fiction.

Show this trailer to a kid, which has seen some of the very accurately modeled weapons and vehicles in documentaries, and there might be a tendency to believe that the rest of the facts presented are also derived from history. For example that there were hot redheads with prosthetic arms waging war on the western front ...

This selective presentation of facts and fiction is at the very least tasteless if you have at least some respect for the human cost of WW2.

no..

that is horeshit

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@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:

Your saying there is no reason for people's hatred for Clinton, I pointed out a Netflix show, house of cards which depicts 2 highly corrupt government officials, is based on Hillary and Bill Clinton.

Maybe you aren't listening to these people or outright ignoring them like you do me.

no its not based on them.

but even if it was that would be really really really weak

why would it? Hillary outright lied to the American people, destabilized an entire region... bill had multiple sex scandals... one highly credible rape allegation, there was a very iffy death they were involved in...

you need to be more specific about items 1, 2,4 and 5

number 3 I could not care less about

and really if possible keep it on actual policy positions would be AWESOME!

also..keep in mind, the right has considered her the nightmare of choices since 1993, so these reasons need to go back that far.

GO!

They don't really since she was literally lying about, an email server, hiding details about an attack. Right before an election. People had a good reason to hate her.

you understand that Trump lies nearly every single solitary time he opens his mouth.

so she has a LOT of lies to do, in order to catch up with that comparision

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#770 waahahah
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@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:

you can not have a stance on this subject without having a stance on the core question of its subject.

sorry when you are ready to be clear, I will listen, until then, not bye

Yes, I can, I believe there is a need to be well-written characters coming from more of a creative authentic place.

When you release a video featuring a disabled woman fighting on the front lines of ww2 in a game series that traditionally doesn't have featured soldiers and tries to portray battlefield somewhat authentically of the time period... it's clearly not a creative or sane way to introduce a lead woman in the next video game. And it comes off as motivated by activism and forced.

that is not a good enough clarification of your stance for me.

try again.

also keep in mind, if the developer WANTS to do it, they are not being 'forced' AND you cant micromanage a developer into making good products by throwing around a SJW penalty flag

now. do you think there should be more women in game or not, because if you are going to debate the concern of women being in games you have to have a position on it.

Even if they want to do it, it's still an issue because it doesn't come across as authentic. ...

and thus making it literally impossible for developers to create more female roles.

but your position seems to be that you think there should NOT be more female roles and I agree with that! for different reasons most likely but I do agree, feminists should not push to have female lead roles in video games,but again, for different reasons then the nonesnse ou are spewing here.

but at the end of the day, I am not their creative director, they didnt hire me to consultant them on good story telling or immersive play and its very much not up to me to pull out the SJW penalty card simply because I think the story could be better. That is a lame reason to effectly become a SJW snowflake by being so active in opposition to what you do not agree with.

No, it doesn't make adding lead women as any harder. We are talking about 1 specific case where it's clearly not working. If you can't understand stand the difference between how people perceive a disabled blue-faced woman on the front line of ww2 vs Aloy in horizon zero dawn... we aren't getting anywhere. They are not seen as the same. Aloy... another beloved lead woman... oh what about Senua...

Again and again and again and again. A woman lead is not a problem, there are dozens of examples where games come out and there is a woman and no one cares. It's the additional details that cause people to react poorly to it when it clearly comes off as more of a political statement and not a well written, realized a character. Because we live in a time where people are getting sick of political statements being made over well written characters.

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@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:

Yes, I can, I believe there is a need to be well-written characters coming from more of a creative authentic place.

When you release a video featuring a disabled woman fighting on the front lines of ww2 in a game series that traditionally doesn't have featured soldiers and tries to portray battlefield somewhat authentically of the time period... it's clearly not a creative or sane way to introduce a lead woman in the next video game. And it comes off as motivated by activism and forced.

that is not a good enough clarification of your stance for me.

try again.

also keep in mind, if the developer WANTS to do it, they are not being 'forced' AND you cant micromanage a developer into making good products by throwing around a SJW penalty flag

now. do you think there should be more women in game or not, because if you are going to debate the concern of women being in games you have to have a position on it.

Even if they want to do it, it's still an issue because it doesn't come across as authentic. ...

and thus making it literally impossible for developers to create more female roles.

but your position seems to be that you think there should NOT be more female roles and I agree with that! for different reasons most likely but I do agree, feminists should not push to have female lead roles in video games,but again, for different reasons then the nonesnse ou are spewing here.

but at the end of the day, I am not their creative director, they didnt hire me to consultant them on good story telling or immersive play and its very much not up to me to pull out the SJW penalty card simply because I think the story could be better. That is a lame reason to effectly become a SJW snowflake by being so active in opposition to what you do not agree with.

No, it doesn't make adding lead women as any harder. We are talking about 1 specific case where it's clearly not working. I...

horsecrap I dont believe that for a second.

just throwing the 'oh no...its different because of this game' card.

nope

BF has never been known for it being historically accurate, the developers never advertise that as its strong suit, nor do players (until just now) its a manufactured reason because the trolls are to scared to just be honest.

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#772 waahahah
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@tryit said:
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no its not based on them.

but even if it was that would be really really really weak

why would it? Hillary outright lied to the American people, destabilized an entire region... bill had multiple sex scandals... one highly credible rape allegation, there was a very iffy death they were involved in...

you need to be more specific about items 1, 2,4 and 5

number 3 I could not care less about

and really if possible keep it on actual policy positions would be AWESOME!

also..keep in mind, the right has considered her the nightmare of choices since 1993, so these reasons need to go back that far.

GO!

They don't really since she was literally lying about, an email server, hiding details about an attack. Right before an election. People had a good reason to hate her.

you understand that Trump lies nearly every single solitary time he opens his mouth.

so she has a LOT of lies to do, in order to catch up with that comparision

he does but his lies aren't normally as bad.

Like some of them are exaggerated truths... others are just claiming everything he does is the biggest ever... He didn't lie about policy, he didn't lie about an attack, his lies have been mostly benign and obvious exaggerations / overselling an achievement.

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#773 TryIt
Member since 2017 • 13157 Posts
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:

why would it? Hillary outright lied to the American people, destabilized an entire region... bill had multiple sex scandals... one highly credible rape allegation, there was a very iffy death they were involved in...

you need to be more specific about items 1, 2,4 and 5

number 3 I could not care less about

and really if possible keep it on actual policy positions would be AWESOME!

also..keep in mind, the right has considered her the nightmare of choices since 1993, so these reasons need to go back that far.

GO!

They don't really since she was literally lying about, an email server, hiding details about an attack. Right before an election. People had a good reason to hate her.

you understand that Trump lies nearly every single solitary time he opens his mouth.

so she has a LOT of lies to do, in order to catch up with that comparision

he does but his lies aren't normally as bad.

Like some of them are exaggerated truths... others are just claiming everything he does is the biggest ever... He didn't lie about policy, he didn't lie about an attack, his lies have been mostly benign and obvious exaggerations / overselling an achievement.

his lies are worse.

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#774 waahahah
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@tryit said:
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that is not a good enough clarification of your stance for me.

try again.

also keep in mind, if the developer WANTS to do it, they are not being 'forced' AND you cant micromanage a developer into making good products by throwing around a SJW penalty flag

now. do you think there should be more women in game or not, because if you are going to debate the concern of women being in games you have to have a position on it.

Even if they want to do it, it's still an issue because it doesn't come across as authentic. ...

and thus making it literally impossible for developers to create more female roles.

but your position seems to be that you think there should NOT be more female roles and I agree with that! for different reasons most likely but I do agree, feminists should not push to have female lead roles in video games,but again, for different reasons then the nonesnse ou are spewing here.

but at the end of the day, I am not their creative director, they didnt hire me to consultant them on good story telling or immersive play and its very much not up to me to pull out the SJW penalty card simply because I think the story could be better. That is a lame reason to effectly become a SJW snowflake by being so active in opposition to what you do not agree with.

No, it doesn't make adding lead women as any harder. We are talking about 1 specific case where it's clearly not working. I...

horsecrap I dont believe that for a second.

just throwing the 'oh no...its different because of this game' card.

nope

BF has never been known for it being historically accurate, the developers never advertise that as its strong suit, nor do players (until just now) its a manufactured reason because the trolls are to scared to just be honest.

You're retarded, We are done.

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#775 TryIt
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@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:
@tryit said:
@waahahah said:

Even if they want to do it, it's still an issue because it doesn't come across as authentic. ...

and thus making it literally impossible for developers to create more female roles.

but your position seems to be that you think there should NOT be more female roles and I agree with that! for different reasons most likely but I do agree, feminists should not push to have female lead roles in video games,but again, for different reasons then the nonesnse ou are spewing here.

but at the end of the day, I am not their creative director, they didnt hire me to consultant them on good story telling or immersive play and its very much not up to me to pull out the SJW penalty card simply because I think the story could be better. That is a lame reason to effectly become a SJW snowflake by being so active in opposition to what you do not agree with.

No, it doesn't make adding lead women as any harder. We are talking about 1 specific case where it's clearly not working. I...

horsecrap I dont believe that for a second.

just throwing the 'oh no...its different because of this game' card.

nope

BF has never been known for it being historically accurate, the developers never advertise that as its strong suit, nor do players (until just now) its a manufactured reason because the trolls are to scared to just be honest.

You're retarded, We are done.

oh well that is refreshing!

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#776 waahahah
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No, it doesn't make adding lead women as any harder. We are talking about 1 specific case where it's clearly not working. If you can't understand stand the difference between how people perceive a disabled blue-faced woman on the front line of ww2 vs Aloy in horizon zero dawn... we aren't getting anywhere. They are not seen as the same. Aloy... another beloved lead woman... oh what about Senua...

Again and again and again and again. A woman lead is not a problem, there are dozens of examples where games come out and there is a woman and no one cares. It's the additional details that cause people to react poorly to it when it clearly comes off as more of a political statement and not a well written, realized a character. Because we live in a time where people are getting sick of political statements being made over well written characters.

And that got condensed to...

@tryit said:
@waahahah said:

No, it doesn't make adding lead women as any harder. We are talking about 1 specific case where it's clearly not working. I...

horsecrap I dont believe that for a second.

just throwing the 'oh no...its different because of this game' card.

nope

BF has never been known for it being historically accurate, the developers never advertise that as its strong suit, nor do players (until just now) its a manufactured reason because the trolls are to scared to just be honest.

where did I just throw out it's different? I pointed out with evidence that it is different and being treated as such.

And BF has been authentic as far as thematically/location/characters on the battlefield for the most part. Thats why people buy the series. Bad Company is a departure and has a bit more unrealistic characters which battlefield 5 clearly should have been branded as with... a more caricature band of individuals...

@tryit said:
@waahahah said:

You're retarded, We are done.

oh well that is refreshing!

proof... you're ignoring everything that is inconvenient for your perspective. I literally didn't only state that its different. I pointed out how and why its different than gave examples of lead woman characters that didn't violate it. There isa difference with battilefield v. But you're either too stupid to understand it or refuse to.

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#777  Edited By TryIt
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@waahahah said:

@waahahah said:

No, it doesn't make adding lead women as any harder. We are talking about 1 specific case where it's clearly not working. If you can't understand stand the difference between how people perceive a disabled blue-faced woman on the front line of ww2 vs Aloy in horizon zero dawn... we aren't getting anywhere. They are not seen as the same. Aloy... another beloved lead woman... oh what about Senua...

Again and again and again and again. A woman lead is not a problem, there are dozens of examples where games come out and there is a woman and no one cares. It's the additional details that cause people to react poorly to it when it clearly comes off as more of a political statement and not a well written, realized a character. Because we live in a time where people are getting sick of political statements being made over well written characters.

And that got condensed to...

@tryit said:
@waahahah said:

No, it doesn't make adding lead women as any harder. We are talking about 1 specific case where it's clearly not working. I...

horsecrap I dont believe that for a second.

just throwing the 'oh no...its different because of this game' card.

nope

BF has never been known for it being historically accurate, the developers never advertise that as its strong suit, nor do players (until just now) its a manufactured reason because the trolls are to scared to just be honest.

where did I just throw out it's different? I pointed out with evidence that it is different and being treated as such.

And BF has been authentic as far as thematically/location/characters on the battlefield for the most part. Thats why people buy the series. Bad Company is a departure and has a bit more unrealistic characters which battlefield 5 clearly should have been branded as with... a more caricature band of individuals...

@tryit said:
@waahahah said:

You're retarded, We are done.

oh well that is refreshing!

proof... you're ignoring everything that is inconvenient for your perspective. I literally didn't only state that its different. I pointed out how and why its different than gave examples of lead woman characters that didn't violate it. There isa difference with battilefield v. But you're either too stupid to understand it or refuse to.

BF is pushed as being historically accurate by its developers, nor its community as a strong point of the game until now.

period...end of story.

its a cover to push an agenda based on a lie because they are afraid to speak the truth.

and somethign else

when you try to push your creative vision on to a developer to FORCE them to make design choices they do not support. you are just as bad or worse than what you are accusing feminists of doing.

sleep on that

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Lego is the perfect way to teach kids as it is considered an educational toy which will help them to create building blocks of various sizes and in turn make them more creative and learn a lot of things while creating them