Bayonetta 2: Developers Explain Why They Sided With Nintendo

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#201 FIipMode
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"Break out news, Nintendo buys Platinum games"

Wonder what that would do? I can see that happening if both Wonderful 101 and B2 sell well on the system.

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If they do that can the I would love if they revived Vanquish.
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#202 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="p3anut"]

Yeah because Byonetta sold spectacular on the 360 and PS3 oh wait....

SRW-MKII

Doesn't make his statement any less true.

His statement is wrong though, Nintendo's target audience for the WiiU is hardcore gamer, and it is clear that this time they are actually trying.

You mean the "plays only CoD, complains on online forums" type of gamer?

Yeah, they would better *not* try to appeal to that type of gamer...

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#203 bbkkristian
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bbkk is hotter than mario.

someone had to say it.

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#204 Timstuff
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And I love how Bayonetta is suddenly a terrible video game.

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I did't like Bayonetta before it was cool to not like Bayonetta.

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#205 1PMrFister
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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

"Break out news, Nintendo buys Platinum games"

Wonder what that would do? I can see that happening if both Wonderful 101 and B2 sell well on the system.

FIipMode
If they do that can the I would love if they revived Vanquish.

Vanquish needs Mikami on board as well. Get him back for a sequel, and I'd be happy as pie.
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#206 Minishdriveby
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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

"Break out news, Nintendo buys Platinum games"

Wonder what that would do? I can see that happening if both Wonderful 101 and B2 sell well on the system.

FIipMode
If they do that can the I would love if they revived Vanquish.

Vanquish is a game that definitely needs a sequel, more so than Bayonetta. Vanquish just ended on such a giant cliffhanger that I think I literally said "What the F*ck?!"
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#207 Bubble_Man
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To grow the Bayonetta IP, they moved it exclusively to the console of a company whose main demographic has historically bought mostly 1st part titles and largely ignored 3rd party ones. Sure, that's a good idea.

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#208 rjdofu
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To grow the Bayonetta IP, they moved it exclusively to the console of a company whose main demographic has historically bought mostly 1st part titles and largely ignored 3rd party ones. Sure, that's a good idea.

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More like to keep the IP alive.
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#209 svetzenlether
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[QUOTE="Bubble_Man"]

To grow the Bayonetta IP, they moved it exclusively to the console of a company whose main demographic has historically bought mostly 1st part titles and largely ignored 3rd party ones. Sure, that's a good idea.

rjdofu

More like to keep the IP alive.

Yeah, this more than anything else. He wasn't lying when he said it's reach more gamers with Nintendo's partnership, especially when the alternative is ZERO.

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#211 Wiiyou
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[QUOTE="p3anut"]

[QUOTE="Lems_R_Tools"]

:lol: im going to cry laughing when this game bomb's in sales. everybody know the target audience for the WiiU is Casuals and die hard Mario/Link fans. they're not gonna give too Sh*t's about this game.

rjdofu

Yeah because Byonetta sold spectacular on the 360 and PS3 oh wait....

Doesn't make his statement any less true.

Launch-games sell more than if it had been released later in the console life cycle. I will laugh hard if this game sell more than first game did on 360 and Ps3 combined:D

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#212 The_Game21x
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Well Bayonetta wasn't really my thing but I liked it nonetheless. Shame the sequel has to end up exclusive to the Wii U. Now it's pretty much certain that I'll never end up playing it...

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#213 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

And I love how Bayonetta is suddenly a terrible video game.

Timstuff

I did't like Bayonetta before it was cool to not like Bayonetta.

Why you wearin' my glasses, bro!?

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#214 whiskeystrike
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Either Wii U exclusive or no sequel at all.

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#215 nameless12345
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Wait untill Nintendo announce that GTA V will be Wii U (timed) exclusive.

LOL

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#216 NoodleFighter
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This means PC gamers will get to play it :P

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#217 nameless12345
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This means PC gamers will get to play it :P

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You should first get Skyward Sword running well on your ten times stronger machines ;) :P

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#218 lamprey263
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I wish people would get over this, I for one am glad their making a sequel, if Nintendo didn't help finance it then it probably wouldn't have come out. Platinum Games is kind of obligated to praise the Wii U's potential given that Nintendo is publishing it, but they really had no choice, either make it for Nintendo or not make it at all. I'm sure MS or Sony could have jumped on the chance just like Nintendo but they didn't. Snooze you lose.
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#219 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="p3anut"]

Yeah because Byonetta sold spectacular on the 360 and PS3 oh wait....

Wiiyou

Doesn't make his statement any less true.

Launch-games sell more than if it had been released later in the console life cycle. I will laugh hard if this game sell more than first game did on 360 and Ps3 combined:D

I'd like to see some evidence for that bold statement.
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#220 Epak_
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[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

This means PC gamers will get to play it :P

nameless12345

You should first get Skyward Sword running well on your ten times stronger machines ;) :P

I'd really like to mention something, but oh the fear of moderation is keeping me at bay.

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#222 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

This means PC gamers will get to play it :P

Epak_

You should first get Skyward Sword running well on your ten times stronger machines ;) :P

I'd really like to mention something, but oh the fear of moderation is keeping me at bay.

They fixed it's performance problems?

Nice to hear, might try it running myself.

Still probably isn't completely glitch free tho.

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#223 Zaibach
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its been 2 days now people, time to let it go.

Its coming to a nintendo dydtem, get over it

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#224 Wiiyou
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[QUOTE="Wiiyou"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"] Doesn't make his statement any less true. rjdofu

Launch-games sell more than if it had been released later in the console life cycle. I will laugh hard if this game sell more than first game did on 360 and Ps3 combined:D

I'd like to see some evidence for that bold statement.

If you buy a new console you have not hundreds of games to choose from at launch

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#225 KiZZo1
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="Wiiyou"]

Launch-games sell more than if it had been released later in the console life cycle. I will laugh hard if this game sell more than first game did on 360 and Ps3 combined:D

Wiiyou

I'd like to see some evidence for that bold statement.

If you buy a new console you have not hundreds of games to choose from at launch

And the install base is much smaller. How about the fact that this console is more expensive than Wii, games are more expensive, and 3rd party and mature games often have problems on Nintendo platforms. WiiU already has a few big 1st party titles that would probably be must haves for sheep. At this point it's much more likely it will fail miserably in sales.

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#226 HalcyonScarlet
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lol so they want to grow the brand by taking it away from the original fanbase WTF? To me this translates as 'Nintendo paid us up the a$$ for this'.

Now I have zero reason to go back and finish the first Bayonetta. Thing is the games not really a system seller, it's just a kinda good.

Problem is the Wii U is too much of a risk to get it day one because I don't want to end up with another GC/Wii. I've already decided to wait a year so I can see what it's games and online are going to look like, by that time, the next gen Sony/MS systems will be about ready to launch.

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#227 OreoMilkshake
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lol so they want to grow the brand by taking it away from the original fanbase WTF?

HalcyonScarlet
So the brand would grow if this game wasn't released at all?
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#228 NoodleFighter
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the butthurt is delicous I think it's graped flavor

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#229 HalcyonScarlet
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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

lol so they want to grow the brand by taking it away from the original fanbase WTF?

OreoMilkshake

So the brand would grow if this game wasn't released at all?

So they can't do it multiplat?

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#230 KiZZo1
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the butthurt is delicous I think it's graped flavor

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How would you know the flavor ? :?

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#231 FireEmblem_Man
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

lol so they want to grow the brand by taking it away from the original fanbase WTF?

HalcyonScarlet

So the brand would grow if this game wasn't released at all?

So they can't do it multiplat?

How can they when Nintendo is funding the game?

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#232 HalcyonScarlet
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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]So the brand would grow if this game wasn't released at all?FireEmblem_Man

So they can't do it multiplat?

How can they when Nintendo is funding the game?

So basically it was a stupid thing to say, that they were doing it to grow the brand, because they don't have a choice.

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#233 jtm33
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[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

So they can't do it multiplat?

HalcyonScarlet

How can they when Nintendo is funding the game?

So basically it was a stupid thing to say, that they were doing it to grow the brand, because they don't have a choice.

It's marketing speak. I would say choosing to release the game is growing the brand. If they couldn't release the game at all I cannot imagine that growing anything... The backlash of this is baffling. They had no publisher willing to fund the game. They were out of money. Bayonetta 2 was cancelled. Nintendo came to them and offered a publishing deal with them. Part of that deal was Wii U exclusivity. This is the real world and nobody in their right minds would refuse such a deal. It revives the project, gives Nintendo's new console a great game, and fans get the sequel they wanted. Maybe if the first game sold better it would have been published multiplat, but that is not the case, and is in the past and completely irrelevant.
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#234 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

So they can't do it multiplat?

HalcyonScarlet

How can they when Nintendo is funding the game?

So basically it was a stupid thing to say, that they were doing it to grow the brand, because they don't have a choice.

Sure it was a cop-out statement, but this reaction is pretty silly, people dont even care about the game they just want to lash out. The outcry wasnt this ridiculous after the game was originally cancelled. And I despise bayonetta

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#235 HalcyonScarlet
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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

How can they when Nintendo is funding the game?

jtm33

So basically it was a stupid thing to say, that they were doing it to grow the brand, because they don't have a choice.

It's marketing speak. I would say choosing to release the game is growing the brand. If they couldn't release the game at all I cannot imagine that growing anything... The backlash of this is baffling. They had no publisher willing to fund the game. They were out of money. Bayonetta 2 was cancelled. Nintendo came to them and offered a publishing deal with them. Part of that deal was Wii U exclusivity. This is the real world and nobody in their right minds would refuse such a deal. It revives the project, gives Nintendo's new console a great game, and fans get the sequel they wanted. Maybe if the first game sold better it would have been published multiplat, but that is not the case, and is in the past and completely irrelevant.

Well it's cool, I was bothered about an hour ago when I just woke up and found out, but now it means nothing to me. Although the first is going in the back of the cupboard, I won't have the incentive to finish it if I may not have access to the follow ups.

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#236 HalcyonScarlet
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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

How can they when Nintendo is funding the game?

Zaibach

So basically it was a stupid thing to say, that they were doing it to grow the brand, because they don't have a choice.

Sure it was a cop-out statement, but this reaction is pretty silly, people dont even care about the game they just want to lash out. The outcry wasnt this ridiculous after the game was originally cancelled. And I despise bayonetta

How come?

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#237 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

So basically it was a stupid thing to say, that they were doing it to grow the brand, because they don't have a choice.

HalcyonScarlet

Sure it was a cop-out statement, but this reaction is pretty silly, people dont even care about the game they just want to lash out. The outcry wasnt this ridiculous after the game was originally cancelled. And I despise bayonetta

How come?

The nauseating artstyle and one of the most unlikeable and overly pandering protagonists in living memory....

I like my core games, but this isnt something you can play in the living room with family family members roving about.

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#239 DraugenCP
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The sad thing is that in may, when Bayonetta 2 was canceled, there was not even 10% of all the whining and crying we see now. Pathetic

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My thoughts exactly. I really think a lot of people would prefer that this game not exist over it appearing on the Wii U.

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#240 hippiesanta
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your elementary school kids will soon play bayonetta ...
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#241 chocolate1325
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The Nintendo fans only seem to buy the consoles for Mario and Zelda most of the other stuff isn't that good. I will be intrested to see hows the second Bayonetta does when compared to the first game which wasn't that good.

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#242 HalcyonScarlet
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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Sure it was a cop-out statement, but this reaction is pretty silly, people dont even care about the game they just want to lash out. The outcry wasnt this ridiculous after the game was originally cancelled. And I despise bayonetta

Zaibach

How come?

The nauseating artstyle and one of the most unlikeable and overly pandering protagonists in living memory....

I like my core games, but this isnt something you can play in the living room with family family members roving about.

True. I guess it's the female version of Dante and I hate, I can't bring myself to play DMC.

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#243 Renzokucant
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That game didnt carch me. Was bleh imo
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#244 skrat_01
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I'm just glad there is a sequel.
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#245 skrat_01
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The nauseating artstyle and one of the most unlikeable and overly pandering protagonists in living memory....

I like my core games, but this isnt something you can play in the living room with family family members roving about.

Zaibach
If your family members aren't going to be shocked or surprised or well, suddenly blush and take offence at raving mad camp absurdity, in video game form, then it really says something more about them.
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#246 mariokart64fan
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[QUOTE="PSP107"]

reaching the hands of more and more gamersKiZZo1

By making it exclusive? BS DETECTED !!!

hey there was a time where nearly everything was exclusive to playstation so turn about is fair play don't believe me need for speed 2 up til porshe unleashed spyro 1 -3 crash 1-3 syphon filter driver spec ops final fantasy mgs the former 2 were nes exclusive before so whats bull about nintendo finally getting support? i just dont see the point why dont you give the wii u a fair chance afterall the majority complained when there was no third party support on wii , and you have to ask yourself why youll know the answer if you do not buy the game made by third party
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#247 madsnakehhh
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Nice, i'm glad the game is alive and will be on the WiiU, i was extremely upset when i found that the game was cancelled...but now Nintendo to the rescue, no doubt yet another reason of why to get a WiiU, i seriously cannot wait to know more about the game, if it keeps the combat intact and the epic boss battles then its a day 1 for me.

And you can quote me on this, there will be either a Samus or Princess Peach costume for Bayonetta :)

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#248 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

The nauseating artstyle and one of the most unlikeable and overly pandering protagonists in living memory....

I like my core games, but this isnt something you can play in the living room with family family members roving about.

skrat_01

If your family members aren't going to be shocked or surprised or well, suddenly blush and take offence at raving mad camp absurdity, in video game form, then it really says something more about them.

Since I come from a Muslim family, I SPOSE IT SHOULD.

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#249 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

The nauseating artstyle and one of the most unlikeable and overly pandering protagonists in living memory....

I like my core games, but this isnt something you can play in the living room with family family members roving about.

Zaibach

If your family members aren't going to be shocked or surprised or well, suddenly blush and take offence at raving mad camp absurdity, in video game form, then it really says something more about them.

Since I come from a Muslim family, I SPOSE IT SHOULD.

May i ask what games are ok for your family?

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#250 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

The nauseating artstyle and one of the most unlikeable and overly pandering protagonists in living memory....

I like my core games, but this isnt something you can play in the living room with family family members roving about.

Zaibach

If your family members aren't going to be shocked or surprised or well, suddenly blush and take offence at raving mad camp absurdity, in video game form, then it really says something more about them.

Since I come from a Muslim family, I SPOSE IT SHOULD.

Touche, touche.