Bayonetta 2: Developers Explain Why They Sided With Nintendo

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#151 Zeviander
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All last gen, people called for Nintendo to get some good 3rd party exclusives and focus more on gamers. They start doing that and the entire gaming world loses their s**t. bc1391
"Haters gonna hate" seems to be the only sufficient response to your sensibility.
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#152 SRW-MKII
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[QUOTE="SRW-MKII"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Yes but there are plenty of other companies who could have jumped in. I feel Nintendo is the WORST choice just because the series will now be exclusive on a platform where it likely WON'T sell much if at all.

I don't think the first game did too well, and now I am betting the sequel will bomb even harder...

Nintendo kinda sucks at handling non-first party IP's. Just look at the Fatal Frame series. The series essentially died once they picked it up. The idiots don't even bring it stateside anymore...

rjdofu
Could have, but they didn't, so NIntendo gets it. And you are basing Nintendo's handling of Fatal Frame as the only example? It is not as if Fatal Frame was big franchise before. I don't think the game is going to be bomb, Nintendo just has to market this game very well and it will sell, just like the fact that RE4 sold more on Gamecube than the PS2.

You might want to take that "fact" back. http://web.archive.org/web/20070621040246/http://ir.capcom.co.jp/english/data/million.html

My bad, I thought it sold more on the Gamecube. Probably got confuse with the ratio of the sales to the number of console sold.
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#153 murat8
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Hmm, well im glad Nintendo is publishing Platinum games, i like them, not a big fan of Bayonetta but still a good move by Nintendo.
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#155 Silenthps
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Uh.... anyone think that maybe they wanted to be on the WiiU because they want it to have better graphics than what the 6 year old consoles can handle?
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#156 Silenthps
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Uh.... anyone think that maybe they wanted to be on the WiiU because they want it to have better graphics than what the 6 year old consoles can handle?
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#157 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

[QUOTE="PSP107"]

reaching the hands of more and more gamersLegatoSkyheart

By making it exclusive? BS DETECTED !!!

Bayonetta going to a Console that has Super Smash Bros., Mario, and Zelda?

it will probably reach to more Gamers than it ever did on the other 2 systems.

That explains why 3rd party games sold so well on the wii... oh wait..
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#158 Tessellation
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see nintendo doesn't force devs making exclusives to their system to say pathetic things like ''only possible on this console'' ''not possible on other system'' they just let them give the real reasons.
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#159 FIipMode
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Uh.... anyone think that maybe they wanted to be on the WiiU because they want it to have better graphics than what the 6 year old consoles can handle? Silenthps
I think it was their only choice after the game was cancelled.
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#160 murat8
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Uh.... anyone think that maybe they wanted to be on the WiiU because they want it to have better graphics than what the 6 year old consoles can handle? Silenthps
If true, would they go to the PC if they cared so much about power? or are u being sarcastic, hard to tell.
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#161 Zaibach
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ITT: GD1551 has a really hurt butt.Zeviander

how so?

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#162 silversix_
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Who cares, the original was unplayable cheese made for 13 years old boys.
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#163 blackace
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That being said, the console games market is in a state of upheaval, so establishing a new game franchise requires a considerable amount of will, determination, and love. Bayonetta is a brand that we want to see become stronger, reaching the hands of more and more gamers, so we have continued to consult with Sega, the previous games publisher, on how we can make sure this takes place. Our answer was a new partnership with Nintendo.

Along with their new hardware, Nintendo, as a company, is dedicated to establishing a new future for the games industry, as you can tell by their record of passionate support for gaming. Alongside Nintendo, we hope to grow the Bayonetta brand beyond where it stands today, allowing even more gamers around the world to experience the action of our beloved witch. As developers, we are working hard to make this a reality

http://segmentnext.com/2012/09/14/bayonetta-2-developers-explain-why-they-sided-with-nintendo/PSP107
Nintendo doesn't help 3rd Party developers. Maybe because this is exclusive they are getting the support. When 3rd party developers asked for help on the Gamecube, Nintendo basically told them that all the dev-kits and tools for making a great game have been sent to them. They won't fly anyone to your office to help tutor your developers. Sony does the same thing. They will help their 1st party developers, but that's about it. Bayonetta 2 won't be worth it just to get a Wii U.
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#164 1PMrFister
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[QUOTE="PSP107"]

That being said, the console games market is in a state of upheaval, so establishing a new game franchise requires a considerable amount of will, determination, and love. Bayonetta is a brand that we want to see become stronger, reaching the hands of more and more gamers, so we have continued to consult with Sega, the previous games publisher, on how we can make sure this takes place. Our answer was a new partnership with Nintendo.

Along with their new hardware, Nintendo, as a company, is dedicated to establishing a new future for the games industry, as you can tell by their record of passionate support for gaming. Alongside Nintendo, we hope to grow the Bayonetta brand beyond where it stands today, allowing even more gamers around the world to experience the action of our beloved witch. As developers, we are working hard to make this a reality

http://segmentnext.com/2012/09/14/bayonetta-2-developers-explain-why-they-sided-with-nintendo/blackace
Nintendo doesn't help 3rd Party developers. Maybe because this is exclusive they are getting the support. When 3rd party developers asked for help on the Gamecube, Nintendo basically told them that all the dev-kits and tools for making a great game have been sent to them. They won't fly anyone to your office to help tutor your developers. Sony does the same thing. They will help their 1st party developers, but that's about it. Bayonetta 2 won't be worth it just to get a Wii U.

Yes they do, actually. I recall them helping out THQ quite a bit in designing the uDraw tablet (funny how that came full-circle, now that I think of it), and I think they may have sent a few members of Retro Studios out to High Voltage Software when they were having problems getting The Conduit's online to work. That last one's from ages ago, so it may not entirely be accurate.
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#165 p3anut
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:lol: im going to cry laughing when this game bomb's in sales. everybody know the target audience for the WiiU is Casuals and die hard Mario/Link fans. they're not gonna give too Sh*t's about this game.

Lems_R_Tools

Yeah because Byonetta sold spectacular on the 360 and PS3 oh wait....

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#166 p3anut
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:lol: im going to cry laughing when this game bomb's in sales. everybody know the target audience for the WiiU is Casuals and die hard Mario/Link fans. they're not gonna give too Sh*t's about this game.

Lems_R_Tools

Yeah because Byonetta sold spectacular on the 360 and PS3 oh wait....

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#167 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]The fact that they needed to give an explanation is embarrassing. F*** gamers.

Quoted for truth
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#168 Timstuff
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I didn't even like the original Bayonetta so I ain't mad. It must suck to be a fan right now, though, and if this were a franchise I was into my jimmies would probably be quite rustled.
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#169 platniumgamer
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bayonetta sucks more now.

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#170 Wild_man_22
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Seems like people should be more upset that Sony/Microsoft didn't step up and publish it or that Sega just dropped it all together. Rather then hating nintendo for trying to at least make it so the game could even exist.

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#171 deactivated-5f26ef21d6f71
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:lol: im going to cry laughing when this game bomb's in sales. everybody know the target audience for the WiiU is Casuals and die hard Mario/Link fans. they're not gonna give too Sh*t's about this game.

Lems_R_Tools

I agree

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#172 Silenthps
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]Uh.... anyone think that maybe they wanted to be on the WiiU because they want it to have better graphics than what the 6 year old consoles can handle? murat8
If true, would they go to the PC if they cared so much about power? or are u being sarcastic, hard to tell.

Neither, was trying to start a flamewar with deranged dillusional cows who thinks the PS3 will still be stronger.

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#173 bbkkristian
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"...Our partnership with Nintendo." is the real Bayonetta 2 came to Wii U. You people need to quit complaining.
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#174 PurpleMan5000
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I bet the game sell well, or at least better than it did on either the Xbox 360 or PS3. There won't be any competing games in its genre, like Ninja Gaiden, DMC, or GoW. It will also release when the system will be somewhat short on games, and while one great third party exclusive is not going to sell the Wii U to those who are disillusioned with Nintendo, if Nintendo continues to follow this strategy to obtain other third party exclusives, they will end up with a mindblowing library that simply cannot be ignored.
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#175 platniumgamer
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bbkk is hotter than mario.

someone had to say it.

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#176 tryagainlater
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I don't care about Bayonetta but I find all of this hilarious.

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#177 Nintendo_Ownes7
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I bet the game sell well, or at least better than it did on either the Xbox 360 or PS3. There won't be any competing games in its genre, like Ninja Gaiden, DMC, or GoW. It will also release when the system will be somewhat short on games, and while one great third party exclusive is not going to sell the Wii U to those who are disillusioned with Nintendo, if Nintendo continues to follow this strategy to obtain other third party exclusives, they will end up with a mindblowing library that simply cannot be ignored.PurpleMan5000
It is also competing with Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge which is also published by Nintendo.

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#178 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="Lems_R_Tools"]

:lol: im going to cry laughing when this game bomb's in sales. everybody know the target audience for the WiiU is Casuals and die hard Mario/Link fans. they're not gonna give too Sh*t's about this game.

p3anut

Yeah because Byonetta sold spectacular on the 360 and PS3 oh wait....

Doesn't make his statement any less true.
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#179 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]ITT: GD1551 has a really hurt butt.Zaibach

how so?

First Ragnarock and now you. You guys at Hype need to stop taking up for that clown. He constantly makes fanboyish and borderline bigoted remarks, ignores logic and acts like a troll 99% of the time. It's not wonder that other posters are always calling him the r word.

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#180 Demonjoe93
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The sad thing is that in may, when Bayonetta 2 was canceled, there was not even 10% of all the whining and crying we see now. Pathetic

AdrianWerner

This. The whiny fanboyism here is so damn pathetic.

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#181 SRW-MKII
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[QUOTE="p3anut"]

[QUOTE="Lems_R_Tools"]

:lol: im going to cry laughing when this game bomb's in sales. everybody know the target audience for the WiiU is Casuals and die hard Mario/Link fans. they're not gonna give too Sh*t's about this game.

rjdofu

Yeah because Byonetta sold spectacular on the 360 and PS3 oh wait....

Doesn't make his statement any less true.

His statement is wrong though, Nintendo's target audience for the WiiU is hardcore gamer, and it is clear that this time they are actually trying.
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#182 Demonjoe93
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And I love how Bayonetta is suddenly a terrible video game.

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#183 princeofshapeir
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ITT: people pretending Bayonetta 1 was a terrible game.
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#184 LordQuorthon
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and maybe by a miracle bought Mario Kart Wii.

Joedgabe

With 32.44 million copies sold as of March 2012, it is the best-selling Mario game for the Wii console as well as ranking second on the best-selling Wii games list.[2] It is also among the best-selling stand-alone game of all time.

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#185 Capitan_Kid
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[QUOTE="Lems_R_Tools"]

:lol: im going to cry laughing when this game bomb's in sales. everybody know the target audience for the WiiU is Casuals and die hard Mario/Link fans. they're not gonna give too Sh*t's about this game.

p3anut

Yeah because Byonetta sold spectacular on the 360 and PS3 oh wait....

Actually it did
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#186 crimsonman1245
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Bashing Platinum Games because nobody other than Nintendo wanted to publish the game.....that sounds like gamers alright. Thats embarrassing.

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#187 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]ITT: GD1551 has a really hurt butt.Bigboi500

how so?

First Ragnarock and now you. You guys at Hype need to stop taking up for that clown. He constantly makes fanboyish and borderline bigoted remarks, ignores logic and acts like a troll 99% of the time. It's not wonder that other posters are always calling him the r word.

dafuq are you on about? who's raganrock?

was I even talking to you? :?

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#188 lundy86_4
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Bashing Platinum Games because nobody other than Nintendo wanted to publish the game.....that sounds like gamers alright. Thats embarrassing.

crimsonman1245

Yep. Nintendo very much saved the franchise. That speaks volumes about Platinum Games.

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#189 p3anut
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[QUOTE="p3anut"]

[QUOTE="Lems_R_Tools"]

:lol: im going to cry laughing when this game bomb's in sales. everybody know the target audience for the WiiU is Casuals and die hard Mario/Link fans. they're not gonna give too Sh*t's about this game.

Capitan_Kid

Yeah because Byonetta sold spectacular on the 360 and PS3 oh wait....

Actually it did

Ummm no it didn't it sold 1.88 million units worldwide, thats including both 360 and PS3 sales combined.

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#190 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="p3anut"]

Yeah because Byonetta sold spectacular on the 360 and PS3 oh wait....

p3anut

Actually it did

Ummm no it didn't it sold 1.88 million units worldwide, thats including both 360 and PS3 sales combined.

I wanna see the receipts.
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#191 AgentA-Mi6
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And the first third party game to get hit with the Nintendo bargain bin curse is, TADAAAAA a zombie title, formerly canceled by Sega now picked up by Nintendo in order to enlarge the launch line up of their next WII console. Sold poorly on 360 and PS3, it'll die a slow painful death with Nintendo.

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#192 KiZZo1
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nobody other than Nintendo wanted to publish the game

crimsonman1245

Care to provide a source for that claim?

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#193 Zaibach
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reactions are funny

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#194 super600  Moderator
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Actually if ninty markets this game like crazy the game may outsell it's predecessor.Sega only mostly markets the sonic games more then their other games.

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#195 ArisShadows
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I shall be enjoying Bayonetta 2. ;)
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#196 rjdofu
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Just notice, not directed by Kamiya, hype drops to 0.
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#197 super600  Moderator
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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

In my years as a gamer, I have never seen this much ignorance towards a game ever. I found it entertaining at first but the more I realize where the hate comes from, and how blind people choose to be-the more I find it sad.

Either way, this is going down as one of SW's top 5 moments easily.

Peanut04_basic

I found all the butt hurt very funny at first as well. I quickly realized how insane most of it is. The reaction on this site is nothing compared to some of the things I've read on other sites. I have read posts from people threatening to kill Platinum games developers and their families. People are literally saying they hope their children die horrible deaths.

Whut.Is that true.

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#198 lawlessx
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I like how everyone is saying much Bayonetta sucks now :lol:
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#199 mexicangordo
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"Break out news, Nintendo buys Platinum games"

Wonder what that would do? I can see that happening if both Wonderful 101 and B2 sell well on the system.

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#200 FIipMode
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I like how everyone is saying much Bayonetta sucks now :lol:lawlessx
Well at least I always thought it was average.