Bayonetta 2: Developers Explain Why They Sided With Nintendo

Meh, i would have wanted Bayonetta 2 on next gen consoles

Zurrur

[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

It might be sad, but other than the death threats and some of the immense cursing I've seen are they unreasonable? I'm sure any fanbase would be mad to see one of their favourite multiplatform games go exclusive to a platform that it was never on and they have no interest in.

GD1551

Yes. :|

So if xenoblade, mario or zelda went exclusive to the xbox today, would if be unreasonable for fans of those games to have a negative reaction to that?

The only way Mario and Zelda would be on an Xbox or Playstation is if Nintendo stopped making hardware. That ain't happening anytime soon so come up with better examples.

As for Xenoblade, no I wouldn't have an issue with it. monolithsoft have made games for other systems prior to being a 1st party dev for Nintendo. Then again it would probably be a new IP but if there next project was canned by Nintnedo then nope, no proble if they did it on another system.

Bayonetta 2 is a 3rd party game. Maybe it's because I grew up in a time where 3rd party franchises moved to other systems a lot, which was common in the 90s.

1. Bayonetta 2 is never made

2. Bayonetta 2 is WiiU exclusive

This, kids is called a false dilemma. How do I know? Well, because I could very easily imagine the following scenario:

3. Bayonetta 2 is a multiplat, with timed exclusivity on WiiU

Nintendo get the hardware sales they want, and people who supported the first game get their sequel.

1. Bayonetta 2 is never made

2. Bayonetta 2 is WiiU exclusive

This, kids is called a false dilemma. How do I know? Well, because I could very easily imagine the following scenario:

3. Bayonetta 2 is a multiplat, with timed exclusivity on WiiU

Nintendo get the hardware sales they want, and people who supported the first game get their sequel.

KiZZo1

Except Nintendo is publishing it, which means they have some say in the matter.

Not getting a Wii U...yet. I'm definitely picking this up, if I get one though. Still wish it was multiplat though.

[QUOTE="Zurrur"]

Meh, i would have wanted Bayonetta 2 on next gen consoles

AmayaPapaya

I said next gen consoles, not current gen

Yeah I'm a gutted that its A Nintendo exclusive because I loved the first game and how many series go exclusive after they have been multiplat, its always the over way round. But I except I probably wont play it unless I buy a Wii U instead of getting .

There is always a slim chance it could come to different systems with a prefix after it's name ala Sigma with Ninja Gaiden.

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

1. Bayonetta 2 is never made

2. Bayonetta 2 is WiiU exclusive

This, kids is called a false dilemma. How do I know? Well, because I could very easily imagine the following scenario:

3. Bayonetta 2 is a multiplat, with timed exclusivity on WiiU

Nintendo get the hardware sales they want, and people who supported the first game get their sequel.

_BlueDuck_

Except Nintendo is publishing it, which means they have some say in the matter.

And their say would probably be: screw the fanbase that is responsible for the success of the first game and consequently the making of a sequel. Probably a good move from a business perspective, but sure as hell doesn't make me like them.

I said next gen consoles, not current gen

Zurrur

Wii-U is next-gen.

2/10 for a poor troll.

[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

1. Bayonetta 2 is never made

2. Bayonetta 2 is WiiU exclusive

This, kids is called a false dilemma. How do I know? Well, because I could very easily imagine the following scenario:

3. Bayonetta 2 is a multiplat, with timed exclusivity on WiiU

Nintendo get the hardware sales they want, and people who supported the first game get their sequel.

KiZZo1

Except Nintendo is publishing it, which means they have some say in the matter.

And their say would probably be: screw the fanbase that is responsible for the success of the first game and consequently the making of a sequel. Probably a good move from a business perspective, but sure as hell doesn't make me like them.

[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

1. Bayonetta 2 is never made

2. Bayonetta 2 is WiiU exclusive

This, kids is called a false dilemma. How do I know? Well, because I could very easily imagine the following scenario:

3. Bayonetta 2 is a multiplat, with timed exclusivity on WiiU

Nintendo get the hardware sales they want, and people who supported the first game get their sequel.

KiZZo1

Except Nintendo is publishing it, which means they have some say in the matter.

And their say would probably be: screw the fanbase that is responsible for the success of the first game and consequently the making of a sequel. Probably a good move from a business perspective, but sure as hell doesn't make me like them.

Screw over the fanbase? There is nothing stopping fans of the original from buying a Wii-U to buy this game. And why are you assuming that everyone who enjoyed Bayonetta aren't also Nintendo fans?

And are you really expecting Nintendo to invest in a game, and not expect a return on that investment?

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]

Except Nintendo is publishing it, which means they have some say in the matter.

1PMrFister

And their say would probably be: screw the fanbase that is responsible for the success of the first game and consequently the making of a sequel. Probably a good move from a business perspective, but sure as hell doesn't make me like them.

Wouldn't blame them.

In my years as a gamer, I have never seen this much ignorance towards a game ever. I found it entertaining at first but the more I realize where the hate comes from, and how blind people choose to be-the more I find it sad.

Either way, this is going down as one of SW's top 5 moments easily.

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

1. Bayonetta 2 is never made

2. Bayonetta 2 is WiiU exclusive

This, kids is called a false dilemma. How do I know? Well, because I could very easily imagine the following scenario:

3. Bayonetta 2 is a multiplat, with timed exclusivity on WiiU

Nintendo get the hardware sales they want, and people who supported the first game get their sequel.

_BlueDuck_

Except Nintendo is publishing it, which means they have some say in the matter.

[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

1. Bayonetta 2 is never made

2. Bayonetta 2 is WiiU exclusive

This, kids is called a false dilemma. How do I know? Well, because I could very easily imagine the following scenario:

3. Bayonetta 2 is a multiplat, with timed exclusivity on WiiU

Nintendo get the hardware sales they want, and people who supported the first game get their sequel.

KiZZo1

Except Nintendo is publishing it, which means they have some say in the matter.

And their say would probably be: screw the fanbase that is responsible for the success of the first game and consequently the making of a sequel. Probably a good move from a business perspective, but sure as hell doesn't make me like them.

More like they actually make Bayonetta 2 happen, but you need buy a WiiU to play it...

Why should Nintendo pay for Xbox/Playstation games?

[QUOTE="Zurrur"]

I said next gen consoles, not current gen

lundy86_4

Wii-U is next-gen.

2/10 for a poor troll.

do you find that argument stupid as well? A console MUST be pushing the graphics bar to starting the next generation. Generations are about release time not overall, marketable graphics.cainetao11

They're trying their gosh damn hardest to troll, because Nintendo kicked their ass in sales this generation :lol:

[QUOTE="cainetao11"]do you find that argument stupid as well? A console MUST be pushing the graphics bar to starting the next generation. Generations are about release time not overall, marketable graphics.lundy86_4

They're trying there gosh damn hardest to troll, because Nintendo kicked their ass in sales this generation :lol:

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="cainetao11"]do you find that argument stupid as well? A console MUST be pushing the graphics bar to starting the next generation. Generations are about release time not overall, marketable graphics.Capitan_Kid

They're trying there gosh damn hardest to troll, because Nintendo kicked their ass in sales this generation :lol:

I don't know if it's "fan" to play those games. I just use fans to cool me down when it's warm.

It's ok, your side lost. It isn't a big deal.

I really do not understand this decision on part of Platinum games.

If you really want to get your product into as any hands as possible, you do NOT make your sequel to a multiplat game an exclusive. It is even more baffling when you take into account the fact that the Wii U isn't even going after the same audience that Bayonetta had, nor is the Wii U the succesor to either console that Boynetta 1 was on.

This is just a dumb move IMO. They screwed themselves out of so many potential sales and will likely **** off their own fanbase with this. Of course all of this is fine to Nintendo who won't suffer at all from this, but I worry that this is going to hurt Platinum games which really sucks.

I really do not understand this decision on part of Platinum games.

If you really want to get your product into as any hands as possible, you do NOT make your sequel to a multiplat game an exclusive. It is even more baffling when you take into account the fact that the Wii U isn't even going after the same audience that Bayonetta had, nor is the Wii U the succesor to either console that Boynetta 1 was on.

This is just a dumb move IMO. They screwed themselves out of so many potential sales and will likely **** off their own fanbase with this. Of course all of this is fine to Nintendo who won't suffer at all from this, but I worry that this is going to hurt Platinum games which really sucks.

LostProphetFLCL

Unfortunately, it was one of two choices:

1. Leave Bayonetta as a series, as 2 was officially cancelled
2. Create the game for the Wii-U

I really do not understand this decision on part of Platinum games.

If you really want to get your product into as any hands as possible, you do NOT make your sequel to a multiplat game an exclusive. It is even more baffling when you take into account the fact that the Wii U isn't even going after the same audience that Bayonetta had, nor is the Wii U the succesor to either console that Boynetta 1 was on.

This is just a dumb move IMO. They screwed themselves out of so many potential sales and will likely **** off their own fanbase with this. Of course all of this is fine to Nintendo who won't suffer at all from this, but I worry that this is going to hurt Platinum games which really sucks.

LostProphetFLCL

Of course all of this is fine to Nintendo who won't suffer at all from this, but I worry that this is going to hurt Platinum games which really sucks.

LostProphetFLCL

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

They're trying there gosh damn hardest to troll, because Nintendo kicked their ass in sales this generation :lol:

lundy86_4

I don't know if it's "fan" to play those games. I just use fans to cool me down when it's warm.

It's ok, your side lost. It isn't a big deal.

So now Nintedo will have something to compete against GOW.Nengo_Flow

Cant be that hard imo, isn't GoW a game just full of quick-time events? I hate those games:?

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

I really do not understand this decision on part of Platinum games.

If you really want to get your product into as any hands as possible, you do NOT make your sequel to a multiplat game an exclusive. It is even more baffling when you take into account the fact that the Wii U isn't even going after the same audience that Bayonetta had, nor is the Wii U the succesor to either console that Boynetta 1 was on.

This is just a dumb move IMO. They screwed themselves out of so many potential sales and will likely **** off their own fanbase with this. Of course all of this is fine to Nintendo who won't suffer at all from this, but I worry that this is going to hurt Platinum games which really sucks.

rjdofu

Yes but there are plenty of other companies who could have jumped in. I feel Nintendo is the WORST choice just because the series will now be exclusive on a platform where it likely WON'T sell much if at all.

I don't think the first game did too well, and now I am betting the sequel will bomb even harder...

Nintendo kinda sucks at handling non-first party IP's. Just look at the Fatal Frame series. The series essentially died once they picked it up. The idiots don't even bring it stateside anymore...

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"] Oh boy sales! Its sure fan to play those! Guess its all sheep can play considering the massive droughts their console has every yearCapitan_Kid

I don't know if it's "fan" to play those games. I just use fans to cool me down when it's warm.

It's ok, your side lost. It isn't a big deal.

It's a joke bro. I also noticed and corrected it. In fact, before you quoted me :o

I think you need to chill out a little :D

I know the fact that Nintendo absolutely walked up and down the competition's face is, well, annoying and offensive. Still, you should get past that and just accept it.

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

I really do not understand this decision on part of Platinum games.

If you really want to get your product into as any hands as possible, you do NOT make your sequel to a multiplat game an exclusive. It is even more baffling when you take into account the fact that the Wii U isn't even going after the same audience that Bayonetta had, nor is the Wii U the succesor to either console that Boynetta 1 was on.

This is just a dumb move IMO. They screwed themselves out of so many potential sales and will likely **** off their own fanbase with this. Of course all of this is fine to Nintendo who won't suffer at all from this, but I worry that this is going to hurt Platinum games which really sucks.

LostProphetFLCL

Yes but there are plenty of other companies who could have jumped in. I feel Nintendo is the WORST choice just because the series will now be exclusive on a platform where it likely WON'T sell much if at all.

I don't think the first game did too well, and now I am betting the sequel will bomb even harder...

Nintendo kinda sucks at handling non-first party IP's. Just look at the Fatal Frame series. The series essentially died once they picked it up. The idiots don't even bring it stateside anymore...

It feels just like the beginning of last gen

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

I really do not understand this decision on part of Platinum games.

If you really want to get your product into as any hands as possible, you do NOT make your sequel to a multiplat game an exclusive. It is even more baffling when you take into account the fact that the Wii U isn't even going after the same audience that Bayonetta had, nor is the Wii U the succesor to either console that Boynetta 1 was on.

This is just a dumb move IMO. They screwed themselves out of so many potential sales and will likely **** off their own fanbase with this. Of course all of this is fine to Nintendo who won't suffer at all from this, but I worry that this is going to hurt Platinum games which really sucks.

LostProphetFLCL

Yes but there are plenty of other companies who could have jumped in. I feel Nintendo is the WORST choice just because the series will now be exclusive on a platform where it likely WON'T sell much if at all.

I don't think the first game did too well, and now I am betting the sequel will bomb even harder...

Nintendo kinda sucks at handling non-first party IP's. Just look at the Fatal Frame series. The series essentially died once they picked it up. The idiots don't even bring it stateside anymore...

The entire reaction from the gaming community is just sad....All last gen, people called for Nintendo to get some good 3rd party exclusives and focus more on gamers. They start doing that and the entire gaming world loses their s**t. Everybody is too busy playing system wars to even realize the situation. The game was literally dead....no other 3rd party wanted to step in, Sony didn't step in, Microsoft didn't step in but Nintendo did. There's nothing stopping you from from buying a Wii U to play the game, just blind fanboy allegiance and unwarranted hate. Hell, there's even another perfectly good Platinum Games exclusive on the system right alongside it.

[QUOTE="PSP107"]

reaching the hands of more and more gamersKiZZo1

By making it exclusive? BS DETECTED !!!

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"] Do you know that their franchise was abandoned by sega? Without Nintendo jumped in, there'd be no Bayonetta 2. It's Nintendo who decides which platform it'll be on.SRW-MKII

Yes but there are plenty of other companies who could have jumped in. I feel Nintendo is the WORST choice just because the series will now be exclusive on a platform where it likely WON'T sell much if at all.

I don't think the first game did too well, and now I am betting the sequel will bomb even harder...

Nintendo kinda sucks at handling non-first party IP's. Just look at the Fatal Frame series. The series essentially died once they picked it up. The idiots don't even bring it stateside anymore...

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"] Do you know that their franchise was abandoned by sega? Without Nintendo jumped in, there'd be no Bayonetta 2. It's Nintendo who decides which platform it'll be on.SRW-MKII

Yes but there are plenty of other companies who could have jumped in. I feel Nintendo is the WORST choice just because the series will now be exclusive on a platform where it likely WON'T sell much if at all.

I don't think the first game did too well, and now I am betting the sequel will bomb even harder...

Nintendo kinda sucks at handling non-first party IP's. Just look at the Fatal Frame series. The series essentially died once they picked it up. The idiots don't even bring it stateside anymore...

good, the less amount of people that can play that crap, the better.

In my years as a gamer, I have never seen this much ignorance towards a game ever. I found it entertaining at first but the more I realize where the hate comes from, and how blind people choose to be-the more I find it sad.

Either way, this is going down as one of SW's top 5 moments easily.

mexicangordo

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

In my years as a gamer, I have never seen this much ignorance towards a game ever. I found it entertaining at first but the more I realize where the hate comes from, and how blind people choose to be-the more I find it sad.

Either way, this is going down as one of SW's top 5 moments easily.

Peanut04_basic

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

It feels just like the beginning of last gen

Stringerboy

Nice sig.

They say they want Byonetta to reach more gamers and they make it a WiiU only game that noone yet owns ??

I hope they meant it as a joke

Also Bayonetta was a great game, but a system seller it is not

They say they want Byonetta to reach more gamers and they make it a WiiU only game that noone yet owns ??

I hope they meant it as a joke

Also Bayonetta was a great game, but a system seller it is not

loosingENDS

They were talking about Bayonetta as a brand, and not specifically Bayo 2. Furtherore, Nintendo picked it up out of the scrap heap, as it was officially cancelled.