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#1 CaseyWegner
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let's try this again. bash jeff and you're suspended for two weeks. the game got a AAA score WHICH IS WHAT IT WAS HYPED TO BE. be civil. DO NOT ACT LIKE CHILDREN. lemmings, be happy. gamespot is not all those other sites you're flocking to to complain about something you shouldn't be complaining about. the fact that it scored so high here speaks volumes. READ THE ACTUAL REVIEW. WATCH THE VIDEO REVIEW. IT'S MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE NUMBER IT GOT. it's still the same game no matter what it scored.

gamespot doesn't review games so that you guys can argue about it here. they aren't interested in showing you what you want to see.

CALL THIS A FLOP AND YOU'LL GET MODDED FOR TROLLING.

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#2 remaGloohcSdlO
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Thank you for that!
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#3 Aqua-Vitae
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That's a bit of a let down :( I was hoping it would get a 9.5 here. Oh well. :)

EDIT: Does anyone know when the PC review will be up? This is the version of the game I intend to get.

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#4 Bansheesdie
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it's still the same game no matter what it scored.
CaseyWegner

Preach it!

Watch the Video Review!

http://www.gamespot.com/video/931329/6176970/bioshock-video-review-1

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#5 Kahuna_1
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You must be tired from having to respond to over 60 pages of fanboy cries...
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#6 eastside49er
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let's try this again. bash jeff and you're suspended for two weeks. the game got a AAA score WHICH IS WHAT IT WAS HYPED TO BE. be civil. DO NOT ACT LIKE CHILDREN. lemmings, be happy. gamespot is not all those other sites you're flocking to to complain about something you shouldn't be complaining about. the fact that it scored so high here speaks volumes. READ THE ACTUAL REVIEW. WATCH THE VIDEO REVIEW. IT'S MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE NUMBER IT GOT. it's still the same game no matter what it scored.
CaseyWegner

I'm still scratching my head as too why people would complain about a AAA score or for that matter claim a AAA game flopped. Crazy times here in SW.

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#7 Lilac_Benjie
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System Shock 2 deserved 9.0. I am glad that Bioshock is getting recognition.
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#8 Giancar
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great game, great score

I am gonna get the PC version:D

PD: lemmings stop crying for a score, it is a supeb game

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#9 organic_machine
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maybe, just maybe the PC version might score 9.5? nah, it'll score the same.
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#10 Cube_of_MooN
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The video review was great, too bad it took a bit to watch (slow loading near end), probably because everyone found it... The vid review captured the game well, and Jeff's problems with the game seem legitimate enough to me.
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#11 Bansheesdie
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That's a bit of a let down :( I was hoping it would get a 9.5 here. Oh well. :)Aqua-Vitae

BioShock is the best game of the year so far, what more could you want?

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#12 Trading_Zoner
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Awesome score for an awesome game. I trust GS scores most, and I am hyped to play this game finally.
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#13 remaGloohcSdlO
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I want to add this again from the old thread, just in case people are thinking a 9.0 is somehow "bad". 9.0-9.5: Superb We absolutely recommend any game in this range, especially to fans of that particular genre. However, games that score in the 9 range are also typically well suited to new players. Games that earn 9s are naturally uncommon, and earn GameSpot's Editors' Choice Award for their outstanding quality. I would be honored to have ANYTHING I made talked about like that.
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#14 Danthegamingman
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Yeah I read the review.......poorly written it was.
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#15 Tactis
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anyway this is going to be last post for a while in this thread, only point i would like to make is that this review site is the only one to encounter this glitch which seemed to be a factor in getting a lower score which doesn't seem fair. Good Night all some of the posts were nice and thanks casey
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#16 Ninja-Vox
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I think Jeff let himself down with the written review, but he made up for it with the video. (I hope that doesn't count as jeff bashing... i assume by that you mean all the childish jibes from the upset fanboys?)

Anywho, i'm not talking about the score itself - and if you're sad about a 9.0 you probably deserve to be upset :P - but the review itself was pretty poor. He seemed to focus far too much on the negetives and didn't even touch on some features that other sites made quite a fuss about. Also, the plot is the very core of the game and not nearly enough emphasis was put on this.

But the video review made up for all that. It's a shame the write-up didn't have all the clarity, detail and praise the video had. It would appear that some fanboys literally need a guy to go on camera and say "YOU SHOULD BUY THIS GAME" if a title gets less than a 10. Anything else, and darn it, it's probably not worth playing.

:P

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#17 Mordred19
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okay, score aside, I am worried that the fun factor will be limited to one playthrough because of the difficulty (lack of it, actually)

Is this off topic? If it is, sorry, but I just want to discuss this unlimited respawn issue.

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#18 Wanderer5
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Thank you. Manthat was crazy back there.Anyway I wish I can get Bioshock butI can't get now(for a couple of reasons) but maybe I get it next year.:)
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#19 CassiusGaius
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Was expecting a 9.5 honestly. Oh well, if 9.0 is the lowest score out of 15+ reviews thats saying a lot.
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#20 Reyes360
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let's try this again. bash jeff and you're suspended for two weeks. the game got a AAA score WHICH IS WHAT IT WAS HYPED TO BE. be civil. DO NOT ACT LIKE CHILDREN. lemmings, be happy. gamespot is not all those other sites you're flocking to to complain about something you shouldn't be complaining about. the fact that it scored so high here speaks volumes. READ THE ACTUAL REVIEW. WATCH THE VIDEO REVIEW. IT'S MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE NUMBER IT GOT. it's still the same game no matter what it scored.
CaseyWegner

whatever it got AAA im done with it. tell me that you are getting Bioshock and you can run it in Direct X 10 and that will make me feel better Casey.

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#21 fixer293
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AAA, cool, I knew it would.
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#22 Bansheesdie
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Yeah I read the review.......poorly written it was.Danthegamingman

Uggghhh! http://www.gamespot.com/video/931329/6176970/bioshock-video-review-1 Video Review, watch it.

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#23 Forza_2
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Ok, here we go again.

"He seems to mess up a lot"

What do you mean he messes up ?

"Why doesn't he ever get it right ?"

Get what right ? Also, what are you exactly complaining about again ? Because he writes poorly his reviews ?

I'm confused.

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#24 remaGloohcSdlO
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I agree with Casey about watching the video review too... it's a FAR better indication of how Jeff feels... and it may even make you realize OTHER factors that made him give it a 9.0. All the things he said against it are valid points!!!! Too easy... Linear... Unsatifying combat... Doesn't sound like a "10" to me... I've VERY HAPPY with another AAA to play!
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#25 Cube_of_MooN
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Was expecting a 9.5 honestly. Oh well, if 9.0 is the lowest score out of 15+ reviews thats saying a lot.CassiusGaius

Yes. That's it. Good job. You also hit the nail on the head. :D A 9/10 being the LOWEST score does say a lot.

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#26 eastside49er
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For you Bioshock PC owners out there, do you know whether we can play the game at midnight PST? I keep hearing that we can if you own the hardcopy, not steam, version. The game, PC and 360 version, is going on sale tonight at midnight via Gamestop and Walmart so I hope we can play tonight.
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]let's try this again. bash jeff and you're suspended for two weeks. the game got a AAA score WHICH IS WHAT IT WAS HYPED TO BE. be civil. DO NOT ACT LIKE CHILDREN. lemmings, be happy. gamespot is not all those other sites you're flocking to to complain about something you shouldn't be complaining about. the fact that it scored so high here speaks volumes. READ THE ACTUAL REVIEW. WATCH THE VIDEO REVIEW. IT'S MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE NUMBER IT GOT. it's still the same game no matter what it scored.
Reyes360

whatever it got AAA im done with it. tell me that you are getting Bioshock and you can run it in Direct X 10 and that will make me feel better Casey.

yes. i'm getting it tomorrow.

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#28 Ezgam3r
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Lems need to chill and stop complaining. Don't see us herms going crazy about the still AAA score.

If this is how lems go about a game that didn't even flop, imagine if Halo or Mass Effect actually did...

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#29 DXGreat1_HGL
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I have to agree, another AAA game for 360, so quit whining...
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#30 Aqua-Vitae
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[QUOTE="Aqua-Vitae"]That's a bit of a let down :( I was hoping it would get a 9.5 here. Oh well. :)Bansheesdie

BioShock is the best game of the year so far, what more could you want?

You misunderstand me. I'm not saying the game is a dissapointment, hell no, that review makes me want to get it even more, just that I was hoping it would get a 9.5, so this is a bit of a letdown for those hopes, that's all. 9.0 is by no means a bad score, I'm quite happy with it in reality.

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#31 Reyes360
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I have to agree, another AAA game for 360, so quit whining...DXGreat1_HGL

I agree AAA is AAA. whatever i love the game but if it got AA then maybe it would be worth it to fight tooth and nail for it.

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#32 Cube_of_MooN
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Lems need to chill and stop complaining. Don't see us herms going crazy about the still AAA score.

If this is how lems go about a game that didn't even flop, imagine if Halo or Mass Effect actually did...

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#33 bulletmath
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who was bashing jeff?
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]let's try this again. bash jeff and you're suspended for two weeks. the game got a AAA score WHICH IS WHAT IT WAS HYPED TO BE. be civil. DO NOT ACT LIKE CHILDREN. lemmings, be happy. gamespot is not all those other sites you're flocking to to complain about something you shouldn't be complaining about. the fact that it scored so high here speaks volumes. READ THE ACTUAL REVIEW. WATCH THE VIDEO REVIEW. IT'S MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE NUMBER IT GOT. it's still the same game no matter what it scored.
eastside49er

I'm still scratching my head as too why people would complain about a AAA score or for that matter claim a AAA game flopped. Crazy times here in SW.

The system is broken. It should've been changed when Gamespot's reviewing method changed. Now there are only 2 possible scores for each level of quality, A, AA, AAA, compared to the 10 before. Something's gotta give.

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#35 remaGloohcSdlO
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Wow... this thread got real quiet when Casey said no more bashing! LOL
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#36 Reyes360
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also i have a feeling this thread is gonna go the same way the other one did lol. ill be asleep by then though.
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#37 BioShockOwnz
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Thank you for that!remaGloohcSdlO

Yes, thank you, Casey.

It's a great games. 9/10 is a great score. It was hyped AAA and it got AAA. There is absolutely no reason to complain. Be happy. :D

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#38 Ninja-Vox
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Forza_2, i've explained this more times than the energy is worth. I think then four individual posters take the trouble to post just to ask me why i'm bothering to even reply, it's apparent that whatever beef you have is going nowhere.

You never seem to explain what your point is. Only have a pop at me. I'm not sitting here just to go round and round in circles with some guy who has last-word issues and after hundreds of posts still cannot tell me what his opinion even is and why he's taking such exception to every word i say regardless of what it is.

In other words, waste your own time. I'm not shuffling round this round-a-bout with you for another hour.

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#39 AntiType
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Something that really sticks out in the video reveiw... the controls (360 im guessing) is horrible.
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#40 CaseyWegner
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who was bashing jeff?bulletmath

a bunch of people we won't be hearing from for two weeks.

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#41 remaGloohcSdlO
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Lems need to chill and stop complaining. Don't see us herms going crazy about the still AAA score.

If this is how lems go about a game that didn't even flop, imagine if Halo or Mass Effect actually did...

Ezgam3r
Ez... you still got my "mistaken quote" in your self ownage thread... LOL! I guess I'm immortalized for ever! =)
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#42 eastside49er
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Something that really sticks out in the video reveiw... the controls (360 im guessing) is horrible.AntiType

I have played the 360 demo and the controls are fine.

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#43 Ninja-Vox
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who was bashing jeff?bulletmath

Many people. There were genuine complaints regarding the sheer number of games he seems to have reviewed differently to what you find with everybody else (myself included) and there were the usual plethora of fanboys with childish insults because they want a superficial number to be higher.

You know how it is. Welcome to another day in system wars. :P

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#44 MuffinsKill
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bioshock = perfect dark zero.........:|

well only in GS i guess

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#45 ironcreed
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Was expecting a 9.5 honestly. Oh well, if 9.0 is the lowest score out of 15+ reviews thats saying a lot.CassiusGaius

Indeed, it is saying that it is the best game to be released thus far this year....easily. At least that is how I am perceiving it.

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#46 CaseyWegner
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bioshock = perfect dark zero.........:|MuffinsKill

it's just a number.

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#47 Zeliard9
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Something that really sticks out in the video reveiw... the controls (360 im guessing) is horrible.AntiType

Judging by the demo, there's no problem with the 360's controls for Bioshock. The only limitations they have are just your natural console limitations. The PC's are also definitely more streamlined and it's a lot easier in particular to change plasmids and tonics and such, not to mention aim accurately which is always the case. That's also judging by the demo.

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#48 Danthegamingman
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[QUOTE="Danthegamingman"]Yeah I read the review.......poorly written it was.Bansheesdie

Uggghhh! http://www.gamespot.com/video/931329/6176970/bioshock-video-review-1 Video Review, watch it.

no thanks, I don't need to see the reviewer fumble about in his video review as well. I have read over a dozen better reviews over the last week, Gamespots review is poor no matter, which way you look at it.
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#49 Bansheesdie
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You misunderstand me. I'm not saying the game is a dissapointment, hell no, that review makes me want to get it even more, just that I was hoping it would get a 9.5, so this is a bit of a letdown for those hopes, that's all. 9.0 is by no means a bad score, I'm quite happy with it in reality.Aqua-Vitae

OK, I get it. Well, BioShock has some small flaws, its unfortunate but true. Does that somehow distract from the pure awesome of the game itself? :lol: No freakin' way man!

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#50 Rockclmbr6
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The video review was *much* better than the original written one. Honestly, I think if he had just written down what he said in there, there would have been less complaints.

Also, I saw the stuttering problem he kept talking about in the video review...I'm hoping that it was just his copy. Even if it isn't, it didn't look terrible enough to really distract me.


Okay, now that I've seen the full story and I'm satisfied, I'm going to bed. Night all. Have fun tomorrow :-)