Bioware vs Naughty Dog 56k.

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="spookykid143"]The characters were better in ME2

GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="edo-tensei"] Yes at the cost of everything else.Dead-Memories

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="edo-tensei"] Yes at the cost of everything else.Avian005

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] So care to explain where these RPG elements are when you're shooting? Last I checked there were no stats for the use of guns in ME2.Ace6301

You can upgrade all weapons in ME2, and all of them pertain to "stats" when in combat. Damage, accuracy, critical. It's bare bones, but it's there.

And what does that have to do with anything I said? You said there are no RPG elements to shooting, you can upgrade stats (RPG elements) for your weapons through out the game. UC2 has nothing to do with it.

[QUOTE="Avian005"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] They were better, because there wasn't really much happening outside of character quests. You had character quests in all Bioware games but they were never the main focus. It's as if they kept the reapers for ME3 and didn't have anything to fill out the second game.edo-tensei

I gotta say, this is one intense poll so far, they just wont conclude.

[QUOTE="Avian005"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] They were better, because there wasn't really much happening outside of character quests. You had character quests in all Bioware games but they were never the main focus. It's as if they kept the reapers for ME3 and didn't have anything to fill out the second game.edo-tensei

There should be a Spin off with Wrex as the main character

There should be a Spin off with Wrex as the main character

spookykid143

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="edo-tensei"] Yes at the cost of everything else.edo-tensei

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

There should be a Spin off with Wrex as the main character

edo-tensei

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="spookykid143"]

There should be a Spin off with Wrex as the main character

spookykid143

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"] Better yet, a full biotic like liara with as full female lead as the standard shepard.Dead-Memories

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]With more Alien sex

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]With more Alien sex

spookykid143

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] what about... Garrus main character, gameplay more based on stealth, espionage. Chronicles Garrus' life after Shepard's initial death. etc i have a huge love for Garrus, he's one of my favorite characters, he actually felt authentic and loyal.

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] what about... Garrus main character, gameplay more based on stealth, espionage. Chronicles Garrus' life after Shepard's initial death. etc i have a huge love for Garrus, he's one of my favorite characters, he actually felt authentic and loyal.

Dead-Memories

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="spookykid143"]yeah Garrus is pretty bad ass. There should also be a mini game where you spy on Miranda and you get to see her naked

spookykid143

Yes he looks big from down here?

Now that i think about it KOTOR 2 had the best character interaction I've seen in a game. Krea, Mandalore, You don't beat that. Also you can train your followers in the ways of the force, you can turn them into mindless killing machines, show them the way of the force, All the memories are flooding me.GeneralShowzer

"If you seek to aid everyone that suffers in the galaxy, you will only weaken yourself… and weaken them. It is the internal struggles, when fought and won on their own, that yield the strongest rewards. You stole that struggle from them, cheapened it. If you care for others, then dispense with pity and sacrifice and recognize the value in letting them fight their own battles. And when they triumph, they will be even stronger for the victory."

i don't even understand how to describe her.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Now that i think about it KOTOR 2 had the best character interaction I've seen in a game. Krea, Mandalore, You don't beat that. Also you can train your followers in the ways of the force, you can turn them into mindless killing machines, show them the way of the force, All the memories are flooding me.Dead-Memories

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Now that i think about it KOTOR 2 had the best character interaction I've seen in a game. Krea, Mandalore, You don't beat that. Also you can train your followers in the ways of the force, you can turn them into mindless killing machines, show them the way of the force, All the memories are flooding me.GeneralShowzer

it's like a philosophy class, without pretentious lectures!

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] kreia is definitely one of the greatest characters in history. "If you seek to aid everyone that suffers in the galaxy, you will only weaken yourself… and weaken them. It is the internal struggles, when fought and won on their own, that yield the strongest rewards. You stole that struggle from them, cheapened it. If you care for others, then dispense with pity and sacrifice and recognize the value in letting them fight their own battles. And when they triumph, they will be even stronger for the victory." i don't even understand how to describe her.

Dead-Memories

it's like a philosophy class, without pretentious lectures!

Comparing a traditional pc developer who then went xbox and then full multiplat to a Playstation exclusive developer. Hmmmmm

Comparing a traditional pc developer who then went xbox and then full multiplat to a Playstation exclusive developer. Hmmmmm

TheSterls

Comparing a traditional pc developer who then went xbox and then full multiplat to a Playstation exclusive developer. Hmmmmm

TheSterls

What's that supposed to mean anyway?

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Comparing a traditional pc developer who then went xbox and then full multiplat to a Playstation exclusive developer. Hmmmmm

ocstew

That´s not reflecting on the poll very much though.

[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Comparing a traditional pc developer who then went xbox and then full multiplat to a Playstation exclusive developer. Hmmmmm

Arach666

That´s not reflecting on the poll very much though.

Yes thats exactly what I meant , I figured you would have pretty much the entire pc and xbox fanbase vs the playstation fanbase but ND did better in the poll then I thought.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Comparing a traditional pc developer who then went xbox and then full multiplat to a Playstation exclusive developer. Hmmmmm

ocstew

LOL what? They havent been pure pc since the first Xbox came out.

I prefer uncharted. I'm not a big RPG fan.racing1750

I prefer uncharted. I'm not a big RPG fan.racing1750

Both are good devs, although I will always have a love affair with Bioware.

Both are good devs, although I will always have a love affair with Bioware.

Ballroompirate

I voted for Bioware. But certainly not for this gen. After the immense disappointment that was Mass Effect 2 and all the unwanted changes they seem to be bringing to Dragon Age 2 (sequel to my second favorite game last year, and no the first isn't Uncharted 2), it looks like they won't even be RPG devs much longer. Uncharted 2 eclipses every game Bioware's made this gen by a fair margin in terms of variety, gameplay mechanics, replayability, and just plain fun factor (granted I've always found Bioware games more interesting than fun). But while Naughty Dog hasn't been super impressive in the past, Bioware has KotOR and Baldur's Gate to fall back on. It's a shame so many people are so hostile to others for not voting for Bioware. It's really telling when you immediately lash out at people and call them fanboys for not picking the 'clear winner' as many of you tend to put it. That kind of talk tends to mark you as a fanboy too, you know.

Lastly anyone who really thinks Mass Effect 2 -despite all its good writing- seriously explores the human condition may want to pick up a book. Oh and this is all in my opinion of course, because this is the internet and it needs to be said.

BioWare easily. People are still playing Baldur's Gate after 12 years of its release. I finished it again couple months ago. People won't remember UC2 after 10 years from now. Mass Effect and Dragon Age are miles ahead of anything Naughty Dog have done. ND isn't bad, they are good at what they do, but in this comparison BioWare slaughters them.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] hmm this is odd. UC 2 came out in 09 ME 2 and Dragon Age came out in 2010.Dead-Memories

DA:O came out in 09. I remember it losing to demon souls specifically.

demons soul was trash... borefest. no story whatsoever... boring AI. firestorm 1 hitko

project dark will be the same but people like fighting giant monsters...

might as well make a giant pixel cube so people will enjoy the epic fights.

Since i dun like WRPGs, Bioware has 3/10 from me, I played Jade Empire and liked it.

I played Crash trio, Jak2, U1,2 ..... and I loved them all, U being the least I liked, 9/10 from me.

They both suck in their own way.

BioWare is owned by EA witch has tendency to milk franchises.

Naughty Dog is owned by Sony and they only make games for Sony consoles.

I love there games, but they are both sellouts.

ND wins because they wanted me to see digital ta-ta's when i was a child by including a nude code in rings of power.

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

DA:O came out in 09. I remember it losing to demon souls specifically.

BIacckAce

demons soul was trash... borefest. no story whatsoever... boring AI. firestorm 1 hitko

project dark will be the same but people like fighting giant monsters...

might as well make a giant pixel cube so people will enjoy the epic fights.

They both suck in their own way.

BioWare is owned by EA witch has tendency to milk franchises.

Naughty Dog is owned by Sony and they only make games for Sony consoles.

I love there games, but they are both sellouts.

xxxDirtyJoexxx

Uhhhh, how many franchises have EA milked?