Bloomberg Reports: Nintendo's DOMINATION of the industry has begun

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#51 jedigemini
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[QUOTE="Setsa"][QUOTE="Iyethar"][QUOTE="Setsa"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]

[QUOTE="Setsa"][QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="Setsa"]The Wii is going to die out buddy, it s jsut a matter of time now. Sure it seems fun to play at first, but it is crap for hardcore gamers. Only three types of people buy the Wii in my perspective: people who are just breaking into the gaming society, people whoa re rich enough to afford multiple systems (Wii + 360/PS3), or little kids with ADD/ ADHD.Iyethar

But those three you listed outnumber the hardcore.

Very true, the problem is though, while Nintendo is realing in cash like crazy atm, the system isn t really going to be a strong competitor in 2 years time. To me it appears to be a fad that will eventually lose it s popularity, but hey, I could be wrong and Nintendo could still pull something off to make it appeal to tradition/hardcore gamers and until then, I ll stick with what i ve got now.

Why not? Every current indicator points to the Wii having the most userbase and most software support in 2 years' time. Why would the dominant system not be a strong competitor?

All i m saying is that i don t think its popularity will last. It s a good system if you ve got a 360/PS3 with it but i can t imagine any tradition/hardcore gamers surviving with only the Wii. While the Wii is attracting a lot of people to the gaming market, the Wii is in a different league from the other two systems. It s more of a "party" system that s fun to play with friends (or when you re drunk) but imo it doesn t seem right to be sitting at home waving your controler around for more than an hour.

Why not? What you just told me boils down to "I would get bored of the Wii after owning it for a while." How do you get from there to "People will stop buying it"?

And if they will stop buying it, when?

Some people will eventually get bored of the Wii. There is only so much it can do for so long to still make it seem fun. Right now everyone who has a Wii is enjoying it because it is fresh, innovative, etc. but after a while the innovation will get old. There will still be those who have fun with it and buy the Wii, but it s popularity will decrease because something else catches their eye. Human kind is always looking for new ways to have fun and sometimes people will rush into something without thinking about it in the long run. When a lot of men and women were younger, they played pokemon, digimon, etc. cards because they seemed hot an everyone was buying them. After a few years though they became stale and lost a fair chunk of their fan base. People still buy them now though, and the franchise perserveres because of it, but atm it sin t doing as well as it was before. My prediction is this will happen to the Wii as well.

Again, you're focusing on the potential for people who have already bought a Wii to get tired of the novelty.  How does this discourage new customers from purchasing?  If anything, it's driving Wii sales, because people are trying to recapture and sustain the novelty through vicarious experience.  They show other people Wii Sports, enjoy watching them play it for the first time.  Then some of those people say "I've got to get a Wii!" and continue the process.

More importantly, though, this is the console industry.  After a few years of sales like this, Wii will be in an unstoppably dominant position, much like the PS2 circa 2003.  It won't need novelty anymore because it'll have massive software support.

Very good point, haters calling it a novelty item at this point are just setting themselves up for embarassment... if anything, 3rd parties behind the Wii ensure it will become even more popular than it is now.
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#52 Setsa
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[QUOTE="laidback_16"]To this Wii hater who says the Wii will die out, i supposed you have the Nintendo Wii so you know what your talking about? If it doesn't appeal to you then that is fine, but don't start talking stupidness like, it only applies to rich kids and spolied bratz, i have played games since NES so that would make me a hardcore gamer, and the Nintendo Wii is MY FIRST CHOICE, eventually i will get a PS3, but if you don't like the Wii, speak for yourself, and the stupidest thing is yet, "the Wii is a fad" WTHELL? Your excuses seem to be getting dummer and dummer

Wow, just wow. Did you even read my posts? I said the Wii is popular now but eventually it s popularity will decrease. I also believe i said that i didn t have a nintendo Wii, but you don t have to own a system to be able to pass judgemeent on it. I ve played on my friend's Wiis and from what i ve seen it is a good party system but it isn t the sort of system that ll have you playing a game for more than 2 hours alone. Did i ever say anything about it applying to only people that are "spoiled"? I said it can also appeal to casual gamers incase you missed that part of my post. And, according to your logic, the 360/PS3 can attract people who seek innovation as long as someone who buys it wants innovation. There are still hardcore gamers, such as yourself, that ll buy the Wii but the Wii is aimed at casual gamers and those breaking into the series, not harcore gamers. O and I didn t seem to realize that people couldn t express their opinions online ne more, when was that rule implied because i must have missed the meeting for it.
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[QUOTE="laidback_16"]To this Wii hater who says the Wii will die out, i supposed you have the Nintendo Wii so you know what your talking about? If it doesn't appeal to you then that is fine, but don't start talking stupidness like, it only applies to rich kids and spolied bratz, i have played games since NES so that would make me a hardcore gamer, and the Nintendo Wii is MY FIRST CHOICE, eventually i will get a PS3, but if you don't like the Wii, speak for yourself, and the stupidest thing is yet, "the Wii is a fad" WTHELL? Your excuses seem to be getting dummer and dummerSetsa
Wow, just wow. Did you even read my posts? I said the Wii is popular now but eventually it s popularity will decrease. I also believe i said that i didn t have a nintendo Wii, but you don t have to own a system to be able to pass judgemeent on it. I ve played on my friend's Wiis and from what i ve seen it is a good party system but it isn t the sort of system that ll have you playing a game for more than 2 hours alone. Did i ever say anything about it applying to only people that are "spoiled"? I said it can also appeal to casual gamers incase you missed that part of my post. And, according to your logic, the 360/PS3 can attract people who seek innovation as long as someone who buys it wants innovation. There are still hardcore gamers, such as yourself, that ll buy the Wii but the Wii is aimed at casual gamers and those breaking into the series, not harcore gamers. O and I didn t seem to realize that people couldn t express their opinions online ne more, when was that rule implied because i must have missed the meeting for it.

Why would its popularity decrease if the development community is pledging its support for it now... if anything it will be alot more popularity because of this. In full damage control mode I see.... 
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It seems this is indicating we might see games being developed for the Wii then ported to PS3 and 360. Kind of like games like GUN and in a better case SC:DA. That would really suck.
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[QUOTE="Setsa"]The Wii is going to die out buddy, it s jsut a matter of time now. Sure it seems fun to play at first, but it is crap for hardcore gamers. Only three types of people buy the Wii in my perspective: people who are just breaking into the gaming society, people whoa re rich enough to afford multiple systems (Wii + 360/PS3), or little kids with ADD/ ADHD.Screamteam411
How unfortunate that a 17-year-old gamer that can't afford 3 systems and has been playing 12 years of ADD-free gaming is getting a Wii. Also wtf is wrong with you... "little kids with ADD/ADHD" How the hell does that have anything to do with the Wii?

the haters are getting so desperate that they're picking on people with handicaps now.... so sad.
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To all the people saying that the Wii isn't powerful enough to stay around, i should remind you of the PS2, which was the weakest console last gen, yet it was the one that won last gen.  I keep hearing about how the specs on the Wii can't compare to the PS3 and Xbox 360, but the same was said about the PS2 and the Xbox.  Now this report is saying that 3rd parties are rushing to release games on the Wii, which is a very good news for the Wii.

Just remember that games sell systems, systems don't sell games.

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Sweet.
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[QUOTE="Setsa"][QUOTE="Ontain"] do you have any facts to back your opinions? I'm not any of the 3 types you mentioned and yet the wii is my only console. why would it die after 2 years? if it's strong for 2 years it would get most of the dev support like the article suggested. Hardcore gamers are a farce. they embraced the ps2 with just like the masses did because that's where the dev support was.

I hate repeating myself... The Wii is a fad in imo, and it s not in the same league as the other systems (not saying it is inferior). The Wii appeals to people that will play games only every now and then and not those that play on a daily basis (over 9 hours a week). If Nintendo can make the Wii have a traditional feel to it as well as an innovative sense then good for them i ll fork over my $350 (canadian) for the system, if not then i wont and quite a few people will dot he same.

well then imo the wii is not a fad. as this article is indicating. more ppl have shown they want to game on the wii with it's new controls than on the other systems with their improved hardware. the article says that devs are shifting resources over to the wii. the "Hardcore" will follow where the games go.
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[QUOTE="Setsa"][QUOTE="Ontain"] do you have any facts to back your opinions? I'm not any of the 3 types you mentioned and yet the wii is my only console. why would it die after 2 years? if it's strong for 2 years it would get most of the dev support like the article suggested. Hardcore gamers are a farce. they embraced the ps2 with just like the masses did because that's where the dev support was.Ontain
I hate repeating myself... The Wii is a fad in imo, and it s not in the same league as the other systems (not saying it is inferior). The Wii appeals to people that will play games only every now and then and not those that play on a daily basis (over 9 hours a week). If Nintendo can make the Wii have a traditional feel to it as well as an innovative sense then good for them i ll fork over my $350 (canadian) for the system, if not then i wont and quite a few people will dot he same.

well then imo the wii is not a fad. as this article is indicating. more ppl have shown they want to game on the wii with it's new controls than on the other systems with their improved hardware. the article says that devs are shifting resources over to the wii. the "Hardcore" will follow where the games go.

and so will the hardcore games! woot! :)
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My favorite part of the article:

"Developers are going to have to give the Wii their best branded products"

dustin-diamond

Wow. because the article said so, it must be true!

I don't see that happening at all.....Especially since one of the major issues with Nintendo and 3rd party devs is that they don't want to compete with Ninty's 1st party titles.

Keep dreaming. The Wii will continue to get 3rd party crap for the forseeable future. The Wii's software library will be just like the GC great Ninty IPs with a sprinkling of decent 3rd party stuff.

You are delusional if you think that devs are going to give up on the 360 and PS3 in favor of the Wii.

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#62 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="Ontain"] do you have any facts to back your opinions? I'm not any of the 3 types you mentioned and yet the wii is my only console. why would it die after 2 years? if it's strong for 2 years it would get most of the dev support like the article suggested. Hardcore gamers are a farce. they embraced the ps2 with just like the masses did because that's where the dev support was.

If the trend continues with Wii only having party games, kiddy games (yes I said kiddy) and games that have no serious depth then it won't appeal to some of the crowd. I don't seem to like the idea of playing party games all the time or games that lack any story and appeals to small children a lot. It can still have a huge success and be dominant.

that's because those type of games where the ones devs thought would be right for the wii. they didn't expect it to be popular and spent little resources on it. this article says that they are shifting resources to wii development. it's not just going to be party games obviously. with competition for the wii gamer market all the devs will need to step up just like they did with the ps2. they got amazing things out of that system but only because they needed to top the other ppl.
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[QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]

My favorite part of the article:

"Developers are going to have to give the Wii their best branded products"

heretrix

Wow. because the article said so, it must be true!

I don't see that happening at all.....Especially since one of the major issues with Nintendo and 3rd party devs is that they don't want to compete with Ninty's 1st party titles.

Keep dreaming. The Wii will continue to get 3rd party crap for the forseeable future. The Wii's software library will be just like the GC great Ninty IPs with a sprinkling of decent 3rd party stuff.

You are delusional if you think that devs are going to give up on the 360 and PS3 in favor of the Wii.

lol you're the one who's delusional buddy. This generation is going to be particularly fun because you and your elk are going to be getting owned throughout the entire thing ;)

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The Wii is going to die out buddy, it s jsut a matter of time now. Sure it seems fun to play at first, but it is crap for hardcore gamers. Only three types of people buy the Wii in my perspective: people who are just breaking into the gaming society, people whoa re rich enough to afford multiple systems (Wii + 360/PS3), or little kids with ADD/ ADHD.Setsa

And you are basing this on what? I do infact own a Wii and happen to love what Nintendo has done to the industry. I have owner practically every system out there. Playing 360 and PS3 have nothing on Wii. I am not rich at all, I'm not new to gaming, and I for certain are not little and do not have ADD/ADHD.

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And lo - The dark time hath commenced.
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#66 dustin-diamond
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[QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]

My favorite part of the article:

"Developers are going to have to give the Wii their best branded products"

heretrix

Wow. because the article said so, it must be true!

I don't see that happening at all.....Especially since one of the major issues with Nintendo and 3rd party devs is that they don't want to compete with Ninty's 1st party titles.

Keep dreaming. The Wii will continue to get 3rd party crap for the forseeable future. The Wii's software library will be just like the GC great Ninty IPs with a sprinkling of decent 3rd party stuff.

You are delusional if you think that devs are going to give up on the 360 and PS3 in favor of the Wii.

1. 3rd party games have been doing exceedingly well in sales on the Wii thus far.

2. You are delusional if you think devs will go anywhere other than where THE MONEY IS... and that's on the Wii. 360 and PS3 sales have been pathetic in compariosn. Wii is outpacing both of them in all territories between 2:1 and 3:1. Devs always go where the largest install base is.

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This is madness!
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#68 Setsa
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[QUOTE="Setsa"]The Wii is going to die out buddy, it s jsut a matter of time now. Sure it seems fun to play at first, but it is crap for hardcore gamers. Only three types of people buy the Wii in my perspective: people who are just breaking into the gaming society, people whoa re rich enough to afford multiple systems (Wii + 360/PS3), or little kids with ADD/ ADHD.Shinno441

And you are basing this on what? I do infact own a Wii and happen to love what Nintendo has done to the industry. I have owner practically every system out there. Playing 360 and PS3 have nothing on Wii. I am not rich at all, I'm not new to gaming, and I for certain are not little and do not have ADD/ADHD.

There are still those that will buy the Wii even if they aren t casual gamers. The main fan base of the Wii is casual gamers and those breaking into the gaming industry, it was Miyamoto's objective from the start. Unfortunatly, this means the Wii wasn t made for most traditional gamers and hardcore gamers.
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edit

double post 

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This is madness!smokeydabear076
THIS IS SPARTA! (i can t help myself whenever i hear that line...)
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I disagree, but ok.

Think what you want to sheep. But if Wii turns out to be a fad, you will be tormented non-stop for a long long time. 

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#73 Zhengi
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The Wii has a good chance and this strong start will help it immensely. If this continues till 2008, you can pretty much crown the Wii as the winner of this gen.
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]

My favorite part of the article:

"Developers are going to have to give the Wii their best branded products"

dustin-diamond

Wow. because the article said so, it must be true!

I don't see that happening at all.....Especially since one of the major issues with Nintendo and 3rd party devs is that they don't want to compete with Ninty's 1st party titles.

Keep dreaming. The Wii will continue to get 3rd party crap for the forseeable future. The Wii's software library will be just like the GC great Ninty IPs with a sprinkling of decent 3rd party stuff.

You are delusional if you think that devs are going to give up on the 360 and PS3 in favor of the Wii.

1. 3rd party games have been doing exceedingly well in sales on the Wii thus far.

2. You are delusional if you think devs will go anywhere other than where THE MONEY IS... and that's on the Wii. 360 and PS3 sales have been pathetic in compariosn. Wii is outpacing both of them in all territories between 2:1 and 3:1. Devs always go where the largest install base is.

Last time I checked, 360 software is doing pretty damn well...Wii hardware is selling really well but the software isn't doing as well as the 360's. Show me a Wii game that has sold better than GEOW. Why do you think the 360 is getting exclusives from the PS3? The 360 seems to be doing quite well for Capcom.
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The Wii is going to die out buddy, it s jsut a matter of time now. Sure it seems fun to play at first, but it is crap for hardcore gamers. Only three types of people buy the Wii in my perspective: people who are just breaking into the gaming society, people whoa re rich enough to afford multiple systems (Wii + 360/PS3), or little kids with ADD/ ADHD.Setsa
Didn't people say te same about the DS, Sorry this is weak damage control
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#76 axt113
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I disagree, but ok.

Think what you want to sheep. But if Wii turns out to be a fad, you will be tormented non-stop for a long long time. 

Trading_Zoner
And if it doesn't?
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I disagree, but ok.

Think what you want to sheep. But if Wii turns out to be a fad, you will be tormented non-stop for a long long time. 

Trading_Zoner
What's wrong with fads? The Apple Ipod was considered a fad and today Apple reports that they have sold their 100 millionth Ipod. Is being a fad THAT bad?
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Last generation I was part of the majority camp. Not because they were the majority, but because the quality was there. Now I'm a part of the minority, but the quality hasn't left. Now the majority is embracing poor quality.

Good riddance for them. 

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Last time I checked, 360 software is doing pretty damn well...Wii hardware is selling really well but the software isn't doing as well as the 360's. Show me a Wii game that has sold better than GEOW. Why do you think the 360 is getting exclusives from the PS3? The 360 seems to be doing quite well for Capcom.heretrix
Zelda: TP will eventually outsell Gears. The attach rate is higher for Zelda than Gears considering that there is almost a 10 million userbase for 360 and 6 million userbase for the Wii.
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PREPARE FOR GLORY!!!

wii4panta

THIS IS MADNESS

 

 

wow looks like the Wii is doing well

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#81 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]

My favorite part of the article:

"Developers are going to have to give the Wii their best branded products"

jedigemini

Wow. because the article said so, it must be true!

I don't see that happening at all.....Especially since one of the major issues with Nintendo and 3rd party devs is that they don't want to compete with Ninty's 1st party titles.

Keep dreaming. The Wii will continue to get 3rd party crap for the forseeable future. The Wii's software library will be just like the GC great Ninty IPs with a sprinkling of decent 3rd party stuff.

You are delusional if you think that devs are going to give up on the 360 and PS3 in favor of the Wii.

lol you're the one who's delusional buddy. This generation is going to be particularly fun because you and your elk are going to be getting owned throughout the entire thing ;)

You mean me and my ILK? Ummm dude, I've owned every single Nintendo console since the nes and I own a Wii. Nobody's owning me.
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#82 OceanLeet
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This is freakin ownage to the max. My god. jedigemini

Indeed.  Excellent post, TC.

This only further emphasizes the point that nobody cares about graphics as much when the gameplay is good.  The Wii is fun.  Pure fun.  And it's going to annihilate the competition this time around.  Nintendo is back. 

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#83 TekkenMaster606
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The combined userbase of the PC, Xbox 360, and Playstation 3 will be greater than the userbase of the Nintendo Wii.

 

Are people forgetting what happened in 2004 and 2005 when we discovered that 'multiplatform' really mean Playstation 2, PC, and the original Xbox? Some people are trying too hard to separate the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 when it comes to tallying up the number of users. Fact is, it's still easy, AND VERY PROFITIABLE, to develop a game for both platforms and release it as a multiplat title. Stop thinking in terms of exclusives.

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#84 MoldOnHold
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Cool.

And to the TC: You really ought to organize it better. It's a mess of large and small text and line breaks.
EDIT: Ah didn't see the link, sorry.
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[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

I disagree, but ok.

Think what you want to sheep. But if Wii turns out to be a fad, you will be tormented non-stop for a long long time.

Zhengi
What's wrong with fads? The Apple Ipod was considered a fad and today Apple reports that they have sold their 100 millionth Ipod. Is being a fad THAT bad?

Was the PS2 a fad then?
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#86 Setsa
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[QUOTE="Setsa"]The Wii is going to die out buddy, it s jsut a matter of time now. Sure it seems fun to play at first, but it is crap for hardcore gamers. Only three types of people buy the Wii in my perspective: people who are just breaking into the gaming society, people whoa re rich enough to afford multiple systems (Wii + 360/PS3), or little kids with ADD/ ADHD.axt113
Didn't people say te same about the DS, Sorry this is weak damage control

True, people did say the same about the DS but the DS allows you to use tradition controls in almost all games (the only ones i can think of atm are LoZ: PH, Star fox, and kirby: canvas curse) which makes it my portable system of choice (bet no one saw that coming). If the Wii offered the same options for the majority of their games and didn t focus on innovation so much in each of their games it d appeal to hardcore gamers more.
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#87 GundamGuy0
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The combined userbase of the PC, Xbox 360, and Playstation 3 will be greater than the userbase of the Nintendo Wii.

 

Are people forgetting what happened in 2004 and 2005 when we discovered that 'multiplatform' really mean Playstation 2, PC, and the original Xbox? Some people are trying too hard to separate the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 when it comes to tallying up the number of users. Fact is, it's still easy, AND VERY PROFITIABLE, to develop a game for both platforms and release it as a multiplat title. Stop thinking in terms of exclusives.

TekkenMaster606

 

For now, but if you read the article the developers are throwing support to the Wii. As fast as they can... Take Two says they want three games by the end of the year...

 

and according to the article it's more profitable to develop for the Wii, because of it's much lower development cost.  

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#88 BuddaX
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LORD OF THE CONSOLES:  RETURN OF THE KING

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#89 Zhengi
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The combined userbase of the PC, Xbox 360, and Playstation 3 will be greater than the userbase of the Nintendo Wii.

 

Are people forgetting what happened in 2004 and 2005 when we discovered that 'multiplatform' really mean Playstation 2, PC, and the original Xbox? Some people are trying too hard to separate the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 when it comes to tallying up the number of users. Fact is, it's still easy, AND VERY PROFITIABLE, to develop a game for both platforms and release it as a multiplat title. Stop thinking in terms of exclusives.

TekkenMaster606
So you're basically saying it takes 2 consoles plus the PC to = a Wii?
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#90 axt113
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[QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="Setsa"]The Wii is going to die out buddy, it s jsut a matter of time now. Sure it seems fun to play at first, but it is crap for hardcore gamers. Only three types of people buy the Wii in my perspective: people who are just breaking into the gaming society, people whoa re rich enough to afford multiple systems (Wii + 360/PS3), or little kids with ADD/ ADHD.Setsa
Didn't people say te same about the DS, Sorry this is weak damage control

True, people did say the same about the DS but the DS allows you to use tradition controls in almost all games (the only ones i can think of atm are LoZ: PH, Star fox, and kirby: canvas curse) which makes it my portable system of choice (bet no one saw that coming). If the Wii offered the same options for the majority of their games and didn t focus on innovation so much in each of their games it d appeal to hardcore gamers more.

classic controller :|

 

And a lot more games than you mentioned use the touchscreen 

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#91 Iyethar
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[QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="Setsa"]The Wii is going to die out buddy, it s jsut a matter of time now. Sure it seems fun to play at first, but it is crap for hardcore gamers. Only three types of people buy the Wii in my perspective: people who are just breaking into the gaming society, people whoa re rich enough to afford multiple systems (Wii + 360/PS3), or little kids with ADD/ ADHD.Setsa
Didn't people say te same about the DS, Sorry this is weak damage control

True, people did say the same about the DS but the DS allows you to use tradition controls in almost all games (the only ones i can think of atm are LoZ: PH, Star fox, and kirby: canvas curse) which makes it my portable system of choice (bet no one saw that coming). If the Wii offered the same options for the majority of their games and didn t focus on innovation so much in each of their games it d appeal to hardcore gamers more.

Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn

Super Smash Bros. Brawl

 

Games for the hardcore that use classic controls.  I'm sure there will be plenty of them over the system's life, I chose to list those two because they're both published by Nintendo. 

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#92 TekkenMaster606
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

The combined userbase of the PC, Xbox 360, and Playstation 3 will be greater than the userbase of the Nintendo Wii.

 

Are people forgetting what happened in 2004 and 2005 when we discovered that 'multiplatform' really mean Playstation 2, PC, and the original Xbox? Some people are trying too hard to separate the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 when it comes to tallying up the number of users. Fact is, it's still easy, AND VERY PROFITIABLE, to develop a game for both platforms and release it as a multiplat title. Stop thinking in terms of exclusives.

GundamGuy0

 

For now, but if you read the article the developers are throwing support to the Wii. As fast as they can... Take Two says they want three games by the end of the year...

 

Of course the Wii will get support. But will it be in the form of top notch teams? Or interns working on the side? The fact is, it's still easy and cost effective to release a big budget multiplatform for the PC/Xbox 360/Playstation 3. That userbase will always be larger than the number of Nintendo Wiis out there.

So what are the publishers going to do? Shift all of their primary focus the making games for a console that uses a non-standard controller and cannot do HD graphics and then port those games to the PS3/PC/X360? Of course not. It'll be the other way around. Games will be made to push the current technology, and THEN ported to the Wii.

Do you really think that publishers want to let their precious talent fall behind when it comes to developing titles in high definition by ignoring the PS3/X360 and focusing on the Wii? Hell no. Because in 2011, 2012 when HD is standard in everyone's living rooms, they will want developers that have the skills necessary to utilize HD, not play catch up because they focused all of their resources on the Nintendo Wii.

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#93 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

I disagree, but ok.

Think what you want to sheep. But if Wii turns out to be a fad, you will be tormented non-stop for a long long time.

ken_gamer
What's wrong with fads? The Apple Ipod was considered a fad and today Apple reports that they have sold their 100 millionth Ipod. Is being a fad THAT bad?

Was the PS2 a fad then?

Does it matter if it was or not? Does it make fads bad or something?
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#94 dustin-diamond
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confirmed.
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#95 Dreams-Visions
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I'll look for this "domination" to turn into "dominating" games. because right now there are none, and my Wii hasn't been played since December. EARLY December. :|
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I'll look for this "domination" to turn into "dominating" games. because right now there are none, and my Wii hasn't been played since December. EARLY December. :|Dreams-Visions
Your sig is the funniest thing....:lol:
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#97 axt113
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I'll look for this "domination" to turn into "dominating" games. because right now there are none, and my Wii hasn't been played since December. EARLY December. :|Dreams-Visions
What games do you have? Also all consoles start slow in the library
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#98 Microsoft1234
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The Wii is going to die out buddy, it s jsut a matter of time now. Sure it seems fun to play at first, but it is crap for hardcore gamers. Only three types of people buy the Wii in my perspective: people who are just breaking into the gaming society, people whoa re rich enough to afford multiple systems (Wii + 360/PS3), or little kids with ADD/ ADHD.Setsa
uh actually ps3 is for nerds and wii is for casuals at least thats all the kids who own a ps3 at my school and that just makes other people not want to get it.... but other then that if we talk about games nothing for ps3 until later will make me buy it some people have to accept that ...360 and wii already have theirs.. zelda and gears
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'll look for this "domination" to turn into "dominating" games. because right now there are none, and my Wii hasn't been played since December. EARLY December. :|axt113
What games do you have? Also all consoles start slow in the library

Just LoZ and WiiSports. I've rented a couple of others from BlockBuster. I need more! :cry:
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#100 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'll look for this "domination" to turn into "dominating" games. because right now there are none, and my Wii hasn't been played since December. EARLY December. :|MoldOnHold
Your sig is the funniest thing....:lol:

every time I look at it, I laugh all over again. something about how my guy shimmies before slapping her :lol: