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#101 amcallister902

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this doesnt flow very well. its like a list of bullets. but meh. im not a ps3 fanboy anymore. im picking up a wii next xmas (and a ps3 for my birthday)

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[QUOTE="Setsa"]The Wii is going to die out buddy, it s jsut a matter of time now. Sure it seems fun to play at first, but it is crap for hardcore gamers. Only three types of people buy the Wii in my perspective: people who are just breaking into the gaming society, people whoa re rich enough to afford multiple systems (Wii + 360/PS3), or little kids with ADD/ ADHD.Microsoft1234

uh actually ps3 is for nerds and wii is for casuals at least thats all the kids who own a ps3 at my school and that just makes other people not want to get it.... but other then that if we talk about games nothing for ps3 until later will make me buy it some people have to accept that ...360 and wii already have theirs.. zelda and gears

That s kind of what i ve been saying, except i replaced "nerds" with hardcore gamers. There s a difference... kinda :|

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#103 PixelatedMess

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Too bad most of the games these companies are scrambling to produce pale in comparison to their offerings on other consoles. I'm glad to see the Wii get more support but theses companies still see the Wii audience as not wanting most of their flagship franchises so I'm not quite sure why everyone is thrilled about this. The 360 and PS3 will still do very well and get the majority of the "Hardcore" titles. The Wii is an awesome machine but it just can not offer some things that the competition does.

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#104 TekkenMaster606

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I'm going the buy the Wii for what it is. A machine that will push Nintendo first party titles to the limit and offer some great secondary games next to my current PC and Playstation 3 combination.

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#105 renger6002

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[QUOTE="Setsa"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Setsa"] Very true, the problem is though, while Nintendo is realing in cash like crazy atm, the system isn t really going to be a strong competitor in 2 years time. To me it appears to be a fad that will eventually lose it s popularity, but hey, I could be wrong and Nintendo could still pull something off to make it appeal to tradition/hardcore gamers and until then, I ll stick with what i ve got now.

do you have any facts to back your opinions? I'm not any of the 3 types you mentioned and yet the wii is my only console. why would it die after 2 years? if it's strong for 2 years it would get most of the dev support like the article suggested. Hardcore gamers are a farce. they embraced the ps2 with just like the masses did because that's where the dev support was.

I hate repeating myself... The Wii is a fad in imo, and it s not in the same league as the other systems (not saying it is inferior). The Wii appeals to people that will play games only every now and then and not those that play on a daily basis (over 9 hours a week). If Nintendo can make the Wii have a traditional feel to it as well as an innovative sense then good for them i ll fork over my $350 (canadian) for the system, if not then i wont and quite a few people will dot he same.

well its actually 315$ (including 13% tax) but anyways, I sit at home "waving my controller around" for more than 2 hours at a time..... you should try it, maybe go to a friend's who has a Wii

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#106 MoldOnHold

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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'll look for this "domination" to turn into "dominating" games. because right now there are none, and my Wii hasn't been played since December. EARLY December. :|Dreams-Visions

Your sig is the funniest thing....:lol:

every time I look at it, I laugh all over again. something about how my guy shimmies before slapping her :lol:

The "thumb up" at the end was a nice touch too. :D

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[QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'll look for this "domination" to turn into "dominating" games. because right now there are none, and my Wii hasn't been played since December. EARLY December. :|Dreams-Visions

What games do you have? Also all consoles start slow in the library

Just LoZ and WiiSports. I've rented a couple of others from BlockBuster. I need more! :cry:

Buy Godfather, SPM, and Madden

17 years ago

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[QUOTE="ken_gamer"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]
I disagree, but ok.
Think what you want to sheep. But if Wii turns out to be a fad, you will be tormented non-stop for a long long time.
Zhengi

What's wrong with fads? The Apple Ipod was considered a fad and today Apple reports that they have sold their 100 millionth Ipod. Is being a fad THAT bad?

Was the PS2 a fad then?

Does it matter if it was or not? Does it make fads bad or something?

Well not really in my opinion, but people shouldn't use it to convince others that they should join in.

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#109 sHaDyCuBe321

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What people dont realize is that the reason why there are few good third party games right now is stated in the article. 3rd parties are JUST now starting to see the benefits of the Wii and its popularity. So yes it will take some time, but eventually the third party games will get better and better, and until then i have some Wii games to keep me comfortable, and whenever I get bored with what i have I can always fall back on my 360. The perfect combo for me....

17 years ago

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#110 anasbouzid

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This is freakin ownage to the max. My god. jedigemini

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I'll look for this "domination" to turn into "dominating" games. because right now there are none, and my Wii hasn't been played since December. EARLY December. :|Dreams-Visions

The third party onslaught should really open up in the 2007 year-end holidays and be going full force through 2008.

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[QUOTE="renger6002"][QUOTE="Setsa"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Setsa"] Very true, the problem is though, while Nintendo is realing in cash like crazy atm, the system isn t really going to be a strong competitor in 2 years time. To me it appears to be a fad that will eventually lose it s popularity, but hey, I could be wrong and Nintendo could still pull something off to make it appeal to tradition/hardcore gamers and until then, I ll stick with what i ve got now.

do you have any facts to back your opinions? I'm not any of the 3 types you mentioned and yet the wii is my only console. why would it die after 2 years? if it's strong for 2 years it would get most of the dev support like the article suggested. Hardcore gamers are a farce. they embraced the ps2 with just like the masses did because that's where the dev support was.

I hate repeating myself... The Wii is a fad in imo, and it s not in the same league as the other systems (not saying it is inferior). The Wii appeals to people that will play games only every now and then and not those that play on a daily basis (over 9 hours a week). If Nintendo can make the Wii have a traditional feel to it as well as an innovative sense then good for them i ll fork over my $350 (canadian) for the system, if not then i wont and quite a few people will dot he same.

well its actually 315$ (including 13% tax) but anyways, I sit at home "waving my controller around" for more than 2 hours at a time..... you should try it, maybe go to a friend's who has a Wii

I have been going to my friends' houses. When i first tried it out, i wanted to get the system badly because it seemed like a lot of fun. However, when i played the Wii afterwards it seemed to have lost a bit of it s sense of exhileration and i reconsidered my earlier thoughts about purchasing the system. After a lot of thought, i decided to hold off on purchasing the Wii until eventually i got to a point where i wondered why i wanted it so badly in the first place.

17 years ago

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Member since 2007 • 938 Posts

LORD OF THE CONSOLES: RETURN OF THE KING
BuddaX

lmao. Nice :lol:

17 years ago

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MWAHHHAHAHAHAAHA It's only a matter of time before we get all the franchises we want.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'll look for this "domination" to turn into "dominating" games. because right now there are none, and my Wii hasn't been played since December. EARLY December. :|Iyethar

The third party onslaught should really open up in the 2007 year-end holidays and be going full force through 2008.

Indeed. The second half of 2007 and all of 2008 looks great for the Wii.

17 years ago

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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="ken_gamer"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]
I disagree, but ok.
Think what you want to sheep. But if Wii turns out to be a fad, you will be tormented non-stop for a long long time.
ken_gamer

What's wrong with fads? The Apple Ipod was considered a fad and today Apple reports that they have sold their 100 millionth Ipod. Is being a fad THAT bad?

Was the PS2 a fad then?

Does it matter if it was or not? Does it make fads bad or something?

Well not really in my opinion, but people shouldn't use it to convince others that they should join in.

But it's okay for people to use it to convince others that they shouldn't join in? Because that's pretty much why I replied to Trading_Zoner who thinks that since the Wii is a fad, it shouldn't be bought at all.

17 years ago

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#117 MARIOSDAD_basic

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The Wii may prove to be a windfall, since games cost just $2 million to $5 million to create, a fraction of the $20 million to $30 million spent on PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 titles, analyst Taylor said. In addition,

Wow i never new it was that cheap to develop for compare to the others :o

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I dunno, I feel like this article is pointing out the lack of 3rd party devs. And even when they have them, they just rush to port the games for wii. I doubt they will start putting time into developing actual good games for an overly casual console like the wii.

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The Wii may prove to be a windfall, since games cost just $2 million to $5 million to create, a fraction of the $20 million to $30 million spent on PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 titles, analyst Taylor said. In addition,
Wow i never new it was that cheap to develop for compare to the others :o
MARIOSDAD_basic

exactly, you don't have to spend a lot of time or money to put out a wii game

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#120 mighty_shark

Member since 2005 • 1822 Posts

Very good news. But I'm tired of waiting. Ninty! Let's get some big games out! NOW!

17 years ago

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#121 Dreams-Visions

Member since 2006 • 26578 Posts

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'll look for this "domination" to turn into "dominating" games. because right now there are none, and my Wii hasn't been played since December. EARLY December. :|OceanLeet

The third party onslaught should really open up in the 2007 year-end holidays and be going full force through 2008.

Indeed. The second half of 2007 and all of 2008 looks great for the Wii.

can't wait. glad I have other consoles to help me bide my time :D

17 years ago

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#122 jedigemini

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[QUOTE="BuddaX"]
LORD OF THE CONSOLES: RETURN OF THE KING
OceanLeet

lmao. Nice :lol:

preach on brotha!

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#123 Shinobishyguy

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My favorite part of the article:
"Developers are going to have to give the Wii their best branded products"
dustin-diamond

Ubisoft better take notice!

17 years ago

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This is freakin ownage to the max. My god. jedigemini

Now finally some hard fact of what I've always been saying, how the game drought and ports are because companies were caught off guard. Finally some proof.

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[QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]
My favorite part of the article:
"Developers are going to have to give the Wii their best branded products"
Shinobishyguy

Ubisoft better take notice!

That new Tom Clancy game that ties in with the other lines should be for Wii

17 years ago

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#126 dustin-diamond

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[QUOTE="jedigemini"]This is freakin ownage to the max. My god. Tylendal

Now finally some hard fact of what I've always been saying, how the game drought and ports are because companies were caught off guard. Finally some proof.

Oh how sweet it will be be when our proof comes in the way of a power roster of third party games... it's only a matter of time now.

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#127 anasbouzid

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i actually think EA took notice...just not enough

17 years ago

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[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="jedigemini"]This is freakin ownage to the max. My god. dustin-diamond

Now finally some hard fact of what I've always been saying, how the game drought and ports are because companies were caught off guard. Finally some proof.

Oh how sweet it will be be when our proof comes in the way of a power roster of third party games... it's only a matter of time now.

Problem is, for ever good game, there are always ten bad ones, and the fanboys are going to try to cite those as ownage.

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#129 anasbouzid

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[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="jedigemini"]This is freakin ownage to the max. My god. dustin-diamond

Now finally some hard fact of what I've always been saying, how the game drought and ports are because companies were caught off guard. Finally some proof.

Oh how sweet it will be be when our proof comes in the way of a power roster of third party games... it's only a matter of time now.

yeah, there are so many cows and lemming i want to B-slap now! the sad thing though is that if the wii does good...all of the cows and lemmings are all of a sudden going to act like they were on its side all along!!

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#130 dustin-diamond

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[QUOTE="dustin-diamond"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="jedigemini"]This is freakin ownage to the max. My god. Tylendal

Now finally some hard fact of what I've always been saying, how the game drought and ports are because companies were caught off guard. Finally some proof.

Oh how sweet it will be be when our proof comes in the way of a power roster of third party games... it's only a matter of time now.

Problem is, for ever good game, there are always ten bad ones, and the fanboys are going to try to cite those as ownage.

The Wii will win this console war regardless of what the fanboys say... and for every 10 bad games the Wii gets, it will get one good one that it wouldnt have got if it wasnt number 1.

The glass is always half full.

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]
My favorite part of the article:
"Developers are going to have to give the Wii their best branded products"
axt113

Ubisoft better take notice!

That new Tom Clancy game that ties in with the other lines should be for Wii

Sorry no, the graphical and online inferiority of the Wii would just ruin the franchise. Stick to your first party games ok?

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[QUOTE="dustin-diamond"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="jedigemini"]This is freakin ownage to the max. My god. anasbouzid

Now finally some hard fact of what I've always been saying, how the game drought and ports are because companies were caught off guard. Finally some proof.

Oh how sweet it will be be when our proof comes in the way of a power roster of third party games... it's only a matter of time now.

yeah, there are so many cows and lemming i want to B-slap now! the sad thing though is that if the wii does good...all of the cows and lemmings are all of a sudden going to act like they were on its side all along!!

I can see that happening

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[QUOTE="dustin-diamond"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="jedigemini"]This is freakin ownage to the max. My god. Tylendal

Now finally some hard fact of what I've always been saying, how the game drought and ports are because companies were caught off guard. Finally some proof.

Oh how sweet it will be be when our proof comes in the way of a power roster of third party games... it's only a matter of time now.

Problem is, for ever good game, there are always ten bad ones, and the fanboys are going to try to cite those as ownage.

Let them, Have you looked at how many AAA's the PS2 had in its lifetime?

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#134 dustin-diamond

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[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="dustin-diamond"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="jedigemini"]This is freakin ownage to the max. My god. axt113

Now finally some hard fact of what I've always been saying, how the game drought and ports are because companies were caught off guard. Finally some proof.

Oh how sweet it will be be when our proof comes in the way of a power roster of third party games... it's only a matter of time now.

Problem is, for ever good game, there are always ten bad ones, and the fanboys are going to try to cite those as ownage.

Let them, Have you looked at how many AAA's the PS2 had in its lifetime?

Indeed. The most games = the most good games.

Throw Nintendo's overwhelming first party support into the mix and the Wii is a force to be reckoned with.

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[QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="dustin-diamond"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="jedigemini"]This is freakin ownage to the max. My god. dustin-diamond

Now finally some hard fact of what I've always been saying, how the game drought and ports are because companies were caught off guard. Finally some proof.

Oh how sweet it will be be when our proof comes in the way of a power roster of third party games... it's only a matter of time now.

Problem is, for ever good game, there are always ten bad ones, and the fanboys are going to try to cite those as ownage.

Let them, Have you looked at how many AAA's the PS2 had in its lifetime?

Indeed. The most games = the most good games.

Throw Nintendo's overwhelming first party support into the mix and the Wii is a force to be reckoned with.

Dustin, you can be very biased and focused, but you, unlike most fanboys, back up your comments with solid fact and cite your sources. Kudos to you for giving us ammo against the nutcases.

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#136 dustin-diamond

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[QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]
[QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="dustin-diamond"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="jedigemini"]This is freakin ownage to the max. My god. Tylendal

Now finally some hard fact of what I've always been saying, how the game drought and ports are because companies were caught off guard. Finally some proof.

Oh how sweet it will be be when our proof comes in the way of a power roster of third party games... it's only a matter of time now.

Problem is, for ever good game, there are always ten bad ones, and the fanboys are going to try to cite those as ownage.

Let them, Have you looked at how many AAA's the PS2 had in its lifetime?

Indeed. The most games = the most good games.

Throw Nintendo's overwhelming first party support into the mix and the Wii is a force to be reckoned with.

Dustin, you can be very biased and focused, but you, unlike most fanboys, back up your comments with solid fact and cite your sources. Kudos to you for giving us ammo against the nutcases.

;) all in a days work lad.

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#137 jedigemini

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[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]
[QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="dustin-diamond"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="jedigemini"]This is freakin ownage to the max. My god. dustin-diamond

Now finally some hard fact of what I've always been saying, how the game drought and ports are because companies were caught off guard. Finally some proof.

Oh how sweet it will be be when our proof comes in the way of a power roster of third party games... it's only a matter of time now.

Problem is, for ever good game, there are always ten bad ones, and the fanboys are going to try to cite those as ownage.

Let them, Have you looked at how many AAA's the PS2 had in its lifetime?

Indeed. The most games = the most good games.

Throw Nintendo's overwhelming first party support into the mix and the Wii is a force to be reckoned with.

Dustin, you can be very biased and focused, but you, unlike most fanboys, back up your comments with solid fact and cite your sources. Kudos to you for giving us ammo against the nutcases.

;) all in a days work lad.

Ofcourse, it doenst really matter what any of us say, the Wii will win anyway :p

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#138 -DarthVader-

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[QUOTE="Iyethar"]
[QUOTE="Setsa"][QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="Setsa"]The Wii is going to die out buddy, it s jsut a matter of time now. Sure it seems fun to play at first, but it is crap for hardcore gamers. Only three types of people buy the Wii in my perspective: people who are just breaking into the gaming society, people whoa re rich enough to afford multiple systems (Wii + 360/PS3), or little kids with ADD/ ADHD.Setsa

But those three you listed outnumber the hardcore.

Very true, the problem is though, while Nintendo is realing in cash like crazy atm, the system isn t really going to be a strong competitor in 2 years time. To me it appears to be a fad that will eventually lose it s popularity, but hey, I could be wrong and Nintendo could still pull something off to make it appeal to tradition/hardcore gamers and until then, I ll stick with what i ve got now.

Why not? Every current indicator points to the Wii having the most userbase and most software support in 2 years' time. Why would the dominant system not be a strong competitor?

All i m saying is that i don t think its popularity will last. It s a good system if you ve got a 360/PS3 with it but i can t imagine any tradition/hardcore gamers surviving with only the Wii. While the Wii is attracting a lot of people to the gaming market, the Wii is in a different league from the other two systems. It s more of a "party" system that s fun to play with friends (or when you re drunk) but imo it doesn t seem right to be sitting at home waving your controler around for more than an hour.

What hardcore gamer only owns one system, Any hardcore gamer would enjoy the wii's new take on gameplay and own all 3...and anyways it doesn't matter what hardcore gamers like/want, the industry is run by causals.

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Oh yeah, third-parties are really "scrambling" to make those spin-offs and ports...

All the articles and sales numbers in the world won't make up for a lack of good third-party games.

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#140 Shinobishyguy

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Oh yeah, third-parties are really "scrambling" to make those spin-offs and ports...

All the articles and sales numbers in the world won't make up for a lack of good third-party games.
Teufelhuhn

more support = more games = eventualy leading to good games. looks like someone's bitter

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When did system wars start listening to anaylysts?

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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]this is a bigger blow to MS than Sony.justforlotr2004

Hows that? Sony was on top last gen, losing that place would suprise Sony quite a bit, MS is still making a name for themselves in the Console buisness.

It's to early to call a winner. We don't know if Wii will last 10 years yet do we? No, we don't.

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#143 jedigemini

Member since 2007 • 2483 Posts

Oh yeah, third-parties are really "scrambling" to make those spin-offs and ports...

All the articles and sales numbers in the world won't make up for a lack of good third-party games.
Teufelhuhn

Developers are presently giving the Wii spin-offs and ports because they are... as you say 'scrambling'. They never prepared for the Wii's launch because they never thought they had to, they didnt anticipate its success... but now they are in the unfortunate position of having to rush games onto the market because they still want to make money, and the Wii is where the money is, but they are ill-prepared. Within the next year, they will start to give the Wii the best of their biggest franchises, as the article suggests.

Good day.

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good for the wii... im actually happy nintendo is succeding, will it last forever? i dont know but as long as it comes out with some great games I'm happy

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#145 jedigemini

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When did system wars start listening to anaylysts?agentfred

It's more like we're listening to major developers (EA, Take-two, Ubi) who spoke in the article at large about wanting to shift their focus to the Wii.

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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Oh yeah, third-parties are really "scrambling" to make those spin-offs and ports...

All the articles and sales numbers in the world won't make up for a lack of good third-party games.
jedigemini

Developers are presently giving the Wii spin-offs and ports because they are... as you say 'scrambling'. They never prepared for the Wii's launch because they never thought they had to, they didnt anticipate its success... but now they are in the unfortunate position of having to rush games onto the market because they still want to make money, and the Wii is where the money is, but they are ill-prepared. Within the next year, they will start to give the Wii the best of their biggest franchises, as the article suggests.

Good day.

I'll believe it when it happens, not when you or Bloomberg say its going to happen.

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God help us.

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#148 Pangster007

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Wow, great thread... :|

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#149 jedigemini

Member since 2007 • 2483 Posts

[QUOTE="jedigemini"]
[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Oh yeah, third-parties are really "scrambling" to make those spin-offs and ports...

All the articles and sales numbers in the world won't make up for a lack of good third-party games.
Teufelhuhn

Developers are presently giving the Wii spin-offs and ports because they are... as you say 'scrambling'. They never prepared for the Wii's launch because they never thought they had to, they didnt anticipate its success... but now they are in the unfortunate position of having to rush games onto the market because they still want to make money, and the Wii is where the money is, but they are ill-prepared. Within the next year, they will start to give the Wii the best of their biggest franchises, as the article suggests.

Good day.

I'll believe it when it happens, not when you or Bloomberg say its going to happen.

When it does happen can I say I told you so just to rub salt in the wounds?

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#150 dustin-diamond

Member since 2006 • 772 Posts

Looks like the spin-doctors have arrived to do their damage control.

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